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April 09, 2015, 08:52:11 PM
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hold on to your hat josh...your day has got to get better!! lmfao
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/mississippi/mssdce/2:2015cv00050/88839

I just captured the docket and documents with RECAP. Should be appearing on the Internet Archive site in a short while.

EDIT: http://ia601506.us.archive.org/27/items/gov.uscourts.mssd.88839/gov.uscourts.mssd.88839.docket.html

So ~1MW per month contract.  You can make a pretty good approximation as to how much HP they could have possibly had, and I don't believe it lines up with their claims.


Some math here:

https://forum.gethashing.com/t/watchlist-gawminers-paybase-zencloud/67/5468

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April 09, 2015, 08:53:12 PM
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I recall a couple months ago when I was saying that GAW was just a tool for committing fraud and would be piled up with as much debt as possible and then discarded there were some simpletons saying ~"Nuh Uh! Why would he start a company to steal money, etc". You think Homero plans on paying this:


http://ia601506.us.archive.org/27/items/gov.uscourts.mssd.88839/gov.uscourts.mssd.88839.1.0.pdf

No fucking way. This will end up being ~$500,000. The power company will obviously win this, and when they try to collect they will have to pick over the bare bones of GAW, which Homero has blatantly stripped of assets (mainly during the $20 floor attempt where GAW coffers were dumped, most likely into his personal anonymous wallets buying up his own XPY) and will be declaring bankruptcy on in the near future.  Don't hold your breath about them being able to get to Homero's personal assets, either.


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April 09, 2015, 08:54:52 PM
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Josh only needs to dump... let's see...

346,000 / .36(.9275) = 1036239 XPY onto the market at current price in order to pay that bill... assuming a .25% fee to convert XPY to BTC and a 7% fee to convert BTC to USD...

.36? That is so yesterday  Grin



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April 09, 2015, 08:56:54 PM
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I recall a couple months ago when I was saying that GAW was just a tool for committing fraud and would be piled up with as much debt as possible and then discarded there were some simpletons saying ~"Nuh Uh! Why would he start a company to steal money, etc". You think Homero plans on paying this:


http://ia601506.us.archive.org/27/items/gov.uscourts.mssd.88839/gov.uscourts.mssd.88839.1.0.pdf

No fucking way. This will end up being ~$500,000. The power company will obviously win this, and when they try to collect they will have to pick over the bare bones of GAW, which Homero has blatantly stripped of assets (mainly during the $20 floor attempt where GAW coffers were dumped, most likely into his personal anonymous wallets buying up his own XPY) and will be declaring bankruptcy on in the near future.  Don't hold your breath about them being able to get to Homero's personal assets, either.



Homero won't even show up so they'll get the full default

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April 09, 2015, 08:57:47 PM
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Josh only needs to dump... let's see...

346,000 / .36(.9275) = 1036239 XPY onto the market at current price in order to pay that bill... assuming a .25% fee to convert XPY to BTC and a 7% fee to convert BTC to USD...

.36? That is so yesterday  Grin




Giving the benefit of the market that someone would pay 36 cents per XPY @ just over 1 million coins...  Someone would do that, right?

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April 09, 2015, 09:02:11 PM
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I recall a couple months ago when I was saying that GAW was just a tool for committing fraud and would be piled up with as much debt as possible and then discarded there were some simpletons saying ~"Nuh Uh! Why would he start a company to steal money, etc". You think Homero plans on paying this:


http://ia601506.us.archive.org/27/items/gov.uscourts.mssd.88839/gov.uscourts.mssd.88839.1.0.pdf

No fucking way. This will end up being ~$500,000. The power company will obviously win this, and when they try to collect they will have to pick over the bare bones of GAW, which Homero has blatantly stripped of assets (mainly during the $20 floor attempt where GAW coffers were dumped, most likely into his personal anonymous wallets buying up his own XPY) and will be declaring bankruptcy on in the near future.  Don't hold your breath about them being able to get to Homero's personal assets, either.



Homero won't even show up so they'll get the full default
Exactly he will just go on the run, maybe another "vacation".
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I recall a couple months ago when I was saying that GAW was just a tool for committing fraud and would be piled up with as much debt as possible and then discarded there were some simpletons saying ~"Nuh Uh! Why would he start a company to steal money, etc". You think Homero plans on paying this:


http://ia601506.us.archive.org/27/items/gov.uscourts.mssd.88839/gov.uscourts.mssd.88839.1.0.pdf

No fucking way. This will end up being ~$500,000. The power company will obviously win this, and when they try to collect they will have to pick over the bare bones of GAW, which Homero has blatantly stripped of assets (mainly during the $20 floor attempt where GAW coffers were dumped, most likely into his personal anonymous wallets buying up his own XPY) and will be declaring bankruptcy on in the near future.  Don't hold your breath about them being able to get to Homero's personal assets, either.



Homero won't even show up so they'll get the full default
Exactly he will just go on the run, maybe another "vacation".

LLC assets are all that can be taken, not personal assets... like the prime controllers that he's fighting to take back...

Unless fraud done by the CEO himself using the name of the LLC...

Take that with a grain of salt... I'm not a lawyer... I just stayed at a Holiday Inn Express....

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April 09, 2015, 09:13:29 PM
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I recall a couple months ago when I was saying that GAW was just a tool for committing fraud and would be piled up with as much debt as possible and then discarded there were some simpletons saying ~"Nuh Uh! Why would he start a company to steal money, etc". You think Homero plans on paying this:


http://ia601506.us.archive.org/27/items/gov.uscourts.mssd.88839/gov.uscourts.mssd.88839.1.0.pdf

No fucking way. This will end up being ~$500,000. The power company will obviously win this, and when they try to collect they will have to pick over the bare bones of GAW, which Homero has blatantly stripped of assets (mainly during the $20 floor attempt where GAW coffers were dumped, most likely into his personal anonymous wallets buying up his own XPY) and will be declaring bankruptcy on in the near future.  Don't hold your breath about them being able to get to Homero's personal assets, either.



Homero won't even show up so they'll get the full default
Exactly he will just go on the run, maybe another "vacation".

LLC assets are all that can be taken, not personal assets... like the prime controllers that he's fighting to take back...

Unless fraud done by the CEO himself using the name of the LLC...

Take that with a grain of salt... I'm not a lawyer... I just stayed at a Holiday Inn Express....
That's only if you ran your company right.  Running it fraudulently is one of a few reasons that a LLC's protection can be rendered void

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/personal-liability-piercing-corporate-veil-33006.html

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April 09, 2015, 09:14:23 PM
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They can't possibly be this dumb, can they? It's not humanly possible to be this stupid.

the sad thing is people might see this as a buying opportunity Smiley  hope they are just pumping and dumping...


That shows that they don't actually believe a word out of the fucker's mouth, either, doesn't it?

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April 09, 2015, 09:17:14 PM
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So are you guys saying this twat is going to get away with this with all his assets squirreled away intact even if the law does catch up with him?
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April 09, 2015, 09:17:40 PM
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On the upside, it is within the realm of possibility that the Power Company lawsuit may well involve trying to prove fraud on the part of Homero personally, removing the LLC protection of personal assets. This is the only way they will see a dime, and I guarantee the lawyers the MPC hires will want to be paid more than the minimum their agreement is for. They probably have paralegals pouring over this thread looking for clues as we speak.

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April 09, 2015, 09:21:32 PM
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On the upside, it is within the realm of possibility that the Power Company lawsuit may well involve trying to prove fraud on the part of Homero personally, removing the LLC protection of personal assets. This is the only way they will see a dime, and I guarantee the lawyers the MPC hires will want to be paid more than the minimum their agreement is for.

In other words, the swift arm of justice will Soon™ strike Josh Garza down.
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April 09, 2015, 09:24:41 PM
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So are you guys saying this twat is going to get away with this with all his assets squirreled away intact even if the law does catch up with him?

The upside would be that he and anyone else involved with the company will never be able to start another. There are precedents where personal assets have been seized, regardless of personal fraud. Judges wield a lot of power in this country, you guys. Plus, if they have to, they could go after Garza personally once they get nothing from the company. You can sue anyone, anytime, and often enough the threat of a lawsuit is enough to get a settlement... hasn't Garza shown you that?

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April 09, 2015, 09:26:16 PM
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On the upside, it is within the realm of possibility that the Power Company lawsuit may well involve trying to prove fraud on the part of Homero personally, removing the LLC protection of personal assets.

Joe Mordica signed the contract though, and only in mid October last year. If there was any large scale mining going on by GAW it wasn't at this site before that date, they only got that after this contract and only managed to consume half of their allotted limit. Given what they were doing it doesn't seem unreasonable that the power company knows that somewhere in GAW there's probably upwards of 1000 BTC that have been mined (either sold or stashed, and there would be records of the former).

This could just be the delinquent portion. I've said before that they weren't nearly as detestable pre-cloud-mining. Plenty of complaints about used equipment and shit, but a shoddy piece of hardware delivered is better than a fake promise undelivered, no?

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On the upside, it is within the realm of possibility that the Power Company lawsuit may well involve trying to prove fraud on the part of Homero personally, removing the LLC protection of personal assets.

Joe Mordica signed the contract though, and only in mid October last year. If there was any large scale mining going on by GAW it wasn't at this site before that date, they only got that after this contract and only managed to consume half of their allotted limit. Given what they were doing it doesn't seem unreasonable that the power company knows that somewhere in GAW there's probably upwards of 1000 BTC that have been mined (either sold or stashed, and there would be records of the former).

This could just be the delinquent portion. I've said before that they weren't nearly as detestable pre-cloud-mining. Plenty of complaints about used equipment and shit, but a shoddy piece of hardware delivered is better than a fake promise undelivered, no?
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April 09, 2015, 09:33:53 PM
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@ ej: You are overlooking the new fangled method of embezzlement made possible with Crypto Currency. Any BTC that GAW had was "spent" trying to prop up the price of Paycoin. Translation: The BTC was likely funneled from the GAW corporate accounts into Homero's personal (hidden of course) accounts by purchasing his endless supply of free XPY. He admits this was done in a massive way during the "$20 floor attempt", with the detail about exactly who the XPY was purchased from left out, of course.

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April 09, 2015, 09:39:17 PM
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Fuck me. This has the potential to be a three part feature length movie. I should start a Indiegogo or GoFundMe investment fund to get a movie done. Fucking top of the charts with the right people in place.

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They can't possibly be this dumb, can they? It's not humanly possible to be this stupid.

I followed lewiscooper's postings on hashtalk for a couple of weeks and I can say with 100% certainty: This guy really is that stupid.

 
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April 09, 2015, 09:40:29 PM
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Fuck me. This has the potential to be a three part feature length movie. I should start a Indiegogo or GoFundMe investment fund to get a movie done. Fucking top of the charts with the right people in place.

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Chris Burke?
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https://i.imgur.com/zKMjeOi.png


https://i.imgur.com/wLo1Di4.png

https://i.imgur.com/77eZNVh.png

Not a bad point really, GAW was mining using power they weren't paying for and also charging people for that power.

That's totally not fraud.  Roll Eyes

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