GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[suchmoon]

Has anyone seen suchmoons reputation?

Josh, is it morning in Dubai yet? It's a Saturday, get some rest from trolling the forums all week.

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[bitpop]

WhoCares, the Twat Dr. and Douchebag specialist (and drug addict) , has gone full retard and plans on opening a business to sell Gold, Silver & Gems at below fair market value.


https://hashtalk.org/topic/36689/gold-silver-diamond-emerald-business-it-is-coming/3
Arxhive: https://archive.today/egnIg

I see no reason why selling products for less than you can purchase them will fail, that is the way it is always done- right? 

Paycoiners get free money and become very rich, but they have to lose everything first, and probably never get anything back

[KeyserSoze]

I see no reason why selling products for less than you can purchase them will fail, that is the way it is always done- right?  

He senses the Gaw faithful are ready to be sheared yet again.

[TheMage]

Bomb incoming......

[bitillionaire]

Bomb incoming......

 

[Buckeye2015]

Has anyone seen suchmoons reputation?

Josh, is it morning in Dubai yet? It's a Saturday, get some rest from trolling the forums all week.

I think it's Sunday where Joshie-poo is at :-)

[bitpop]

Gocoin ceo crying https://twitter.com/GoCoinCEO/status/587724849075748865

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/32yx93/steve_beauregard_on_twitter_noahheaser_gawceo/

[Buckeye2015]

I see no reason why selling products for less than you can purchase them will fail, that is the way it is always done- right?  

He senses the Gaw faithful are ready to be sheared yet again.

You know... until we see if he's jacking his prices up or not... I'm going to give him credit for really believing that he can pull that off. I consult and, when the bitcoin market is in the RIGHT mood, I do give a deduction for bitcoin payment. I've managed to get 5 people into routine bitcoin use that way. So, I count it as a win even if I only break even.

[suchmoon]

Bomb incoming......

 

That was a pre-announcement (TM).

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This PaycoinGold idea is a nifty pump-and-dump variation.

1) Buy a lot of whatever crypto cheap on the open market.
2) Make those into a kind of exclusive token to get a discount on a product. The price will rise as people want to buy the coin to get the discount.
3) Dump your coins.
4) Close up shop.

The people who are stuck are the ones who didn't get a chance to buy with their coins. If you're a sleazeball, you could do

5) Refund the last set of orders saying you're out of inventory.

But that's really optional.

So, I think this guy will stay in business less than two weeks. He should make a solid profit.

[KeyserSoze]

He senses the Gaw faithful are ready to be sheared yet again.

You know... until we see if he's jacking his prices up or not... I'm going to give him credit for really believing that he can pull that off. I consult and, when the bitcoin market is in the RIGHT mood, I do give a deduction for bitcoin payment. I've managed to get 5 people into routine bitcoin use that way. So, I count it as a win even if I only break even.

Kudos for your generosity.

[TheMage]

Bomb incoming......

 

That was a pre-announcement (TM).

The TM stand for TheMage 

[Paul Revere]

I see no reason why selling products for less than you can purchase them will fail, that is the way it is always done- right?  

He senses the Gaw faithful are ready to be sheared yet again.

You know... until we see if he's jacking his prices up or not... I'm going to give him credit for really believing that he can pull that off. I consult and, when the bitcoin market is in the RIGHT mood, I do give a deduction for bitcoin payment. I've managed to get 5 people into routine bitcoin use that way. So, I count it as a win even if I only break even.

Right but you are talking about regular retail, correct? In the Gold/Silver business there is no huge markup to begin with where you can make discounts, and then he is saying he will undercut the Fair Market Value, which is what you can buy the products for to begin with - if you buy in large quantities. There is no such thing as "wholesale" in the Gold/Silver business, it costs what it costs. (yes, giant industrial purchases are slightly less, but that is Millions of dollars in purchases) I have been into Gold & Silver for a very long time (Thanks Hunt Brothers, you helped me buy my first car!) and I can tell you for sure that there simply is no way to do what he is suggesting. It would be easier for him to just send back more XPY than customers pay him and save all the fucking around buying inventory and shipping things. Seriously. This guy has some mental issues, hard to believe he is an actual M.D. . Might have something to do with his drug addiction, of course.

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Right but you are talking about regular retail, correct? In the Gold/Silver business there is no huge markup to begin with where you can make discounts, and then he is saying he will undercut the Fair Market Value, which is what you can buy the products for to begin with - if you buy in large quantities. There is no such thing as "wholesale" in the Gold/Silver business, it costs what it costs. (yes, giant industrial purchases are slightly less, but that is Millions of dollars in purchases) I have been into Gold & Silver for a very long time (Thanks Hunt Brothers, you helped me buy my first car!) and I can tell you for sure that there simply is no way to do what he is suggesting. It would be easier for him to just send back more XPY than customers pay him and save all the fucking around buying inventory and shipping things. Seriously. This guy has some mental issues, hard to believe he is an actual M.D. . Might have something to do with his drug addiction, of course.

But if what he loses in discount is less than what he gains by pumping up the coin, he can make a ton of money quickly. He just can't stay open very long.

[Paul Revere]

Right but you are talking about regular retail, correct? In the Gold/Silver business there is no huge markup to begin with where you can make discounts, and then he is saying he will undercut the Fair Market Value, which is what you can buy the products for to begin with - if you buy in large quantities. There is no such thing as "wholesale" in the Gold/Silver business, it costs what it costs. (yes, giant industrial purchases are slightly less, but that is Millions of dollars in purchases) I have been into Gold & Silver for a very long time (Thanks Hunt Brothers, you helped me buy my first car!) and I can tell you for sure that there simply is no way to do what he is suggesting. It would be easier for him to just send back more XPY than customers pay him and save all the fucking around buying inventory and shipping things. Seriously. This guy has some mental issues, hard to believe he is an actual M.D. . Might have something to do with his drug addiction, of course.

But if what he loses in discount is less than what he gains by pumping up the coin, he can make a ton of money quickly. He just can't stay open very long.

You lost me here. How does accepting XPY = pumping XPY? And , this guy is NOT a sharp market player, I have been following his posts for quite a while, he is basically a retard that thinks if you throw $10 in the air $20 will come down.

[Buckeye2015]

I see no reason why selling products for less than you can purchase them will fail, that is the way it is always done- right?  

He senses the Gaw faithful are ready to be sheared yet again.

You know... until we see if he's jacking his prices up or not... I'm going to give him credit for really believing that he can pull that off. I consult and, when the bitcoin market is in the RIGHT mood, I do give a deduction for bitcoin payment. I've managed to get 5 people into routine bitcoin use that way. So, I count it as a win even if I only break even.

Right but you are talking about regular retail, correct? In the Gold/Silver business there is no huge markup to begin with where you can make discounts, and then he is saying he will undercut the Fair Market Value, which is what you can buy the products for to begin with - if you buy in large quantities. There is no such thing as "wholesale" in the Gold/Silver business, it costs what it costs. (yes, giant industrial purchases are slightly less, but that is Millions of dollars in purchases) I have been into Gold & Silver for a very long time (Thanks Hunt Brothers, you helped me buy my first car!) and I can tell you for sure that there simply is no way to do what he is suggesting. It would be easier for him to just send back more XPY than customers pay him and save all the fucking around buying inventory and shipping things. Seriously. This guy has some mental issues, hard to believe he is an actual M.D. . Might have something to do with his drug addiction, of course.

Me personally? I'm giving discounts on consulting.

Him?  I think he really does think that the XPY will go up significantly and he's bought into the idea that the future increase will offset his current losses. I'm pretty sure anyone who's offering to sell gold already knows it isn't a retail type of market. Notice that he's not using spot prices?  He probably has a local shop that can sell to him at a "FMV"-ish price and going to take a personal hit for 'the interim' until XPY shoots off to the moon.

I think its a bad business decision, but I've looked at some of the online links related to him and he's not going to have Mensa battering down his door any time soon... so, unjustified, idealistic belief in Paycoin is consistent with his past performance.

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[Adam_Allcock]

Right but you are talking about regular retail, correct? In the Gold/Silver business there is no huge markup to begin with where you can make discounts, and then he is saying he will undercut the Fair Market Value, which is what you can buy the products for to begin with - if you buy in large quantities. There is no such thing as "wholesale" in the Gold/Silver business, it costs what it costs. (yes, giant industrial purchases are slightly less, but that is Millions of dollars in purchases) I have been into Gold & Silver for a very long time (Thanks Hunt Brothers, you helped me buy my first car!) and I can tell you for sure that there simply is no way to do what he is suggesting. It would be easier for him to just send back more XPY than customers pay him and save all the fucking around buying inventory and shipping things. Seriously. This guy has some mental issues, hard to believe he is an actual M.D. . Might have something to do with his drug addiction, of course.

But if what he loses in discount is less than what he gains by pumping up the coin, he can make a ton of money quickly. He just can't stay open very long.

You lost me here. How does accepting XPY = pumping XPY? And , this guy is NOT a sharp market player, I have been following his posts for quite a while, he is basically a retard that thinks if you throw $10 in the air $20 will come down.

You guys over think this too much. It is just a scam to steal from retards. Who says he will ship any thing?.... They're just gonna scam each other now

[SDRebel]

Actually, it does. Fraud requires intent, as does illegal misappropriation.

To clarify, this is fraud in the way that all hashlet sales are fraudulent, but I don't see the evidence that he intended to defraud a charity. I don't think there's any additional fraud going on beyond what occurs during an ordinary hashlet sale. I think it's a fuck up followed by an ugly resistance to make up the difference. There were a lot of really incompetent people making a lot of poor decisions (like the entire concept of Paycoin) and making a lot of mistakes. This smells like a fuck up.

I would contend that he showed intent. He knew they sold 48k prior to making the donation. Therefore, when making the donation he unintentionally left out the other 38k?

pormise was made before knowing how much, i thougt we sold 10000 at the time, the promise was tyo donate 10000., read the posts, check the dates u fudding troller

No the promise was to donate 100% to the 9/11 memorial fund. That did not happen.

The promise was actually before they went on sale.

Exactly. How could he call them Remembrance/Memorial Hashlets for 911 after the fact when he had sold them as Remembrance/Memorial Hashlets in the first place.

DERP!

well he is doing it....  he just keeps padding the lies with more lies.  His entire flat world exists on the back of a lie and its lies all the way down.





https://archive.today/PSBV2

looks like uzzuzz just fucked josh.  asking when the selling starts.  So JOsh how did you decide to donate hours after selling started again?

Great post...if that doesn't single-handedly proves fraud i don't know what....

[Paul Revere]

I see no reason why selling products for less than you can purchase them will fail, that is the way it is always done- right?  

He senses the Gaw faithful are ready to be sheared yet again.

You know... until we see if he's jacking his prices up or not... I'm going to give him credit for really believing that he can pull that off. I consult and, when the bitcoin market is in the RIGHT mood, I do give a deduction for bitcoin payment. I've managed to get 5 people into routine bitcoin use that way. So, I count it as a win even if I only break even.

Right but you are talking about regular retail, correct? In the Gold/Silver business there is no huge markup to begin with where you can make discounts, and then he is saying he will undercut the Fair Market Value, which is what you can buy the products for to begin with - if you buy in large quantities. There is no such thing as "wholesale" in the Gold/Silver business, it costs what it costs. (yes, giant industrial purchases are slightly less, but that is Millions of dollars in purchases) I have been into Gold & Silver for a very long time (Thanks Hunt Brothers, you helped me buy my first car!) and I can tell you for sure that there simply is no way to do what he is suggesting. It would be easier for him to just send back more XPY than customers pay him and save all the fucking around buying inventory and shipping things. Seriously. This guy has some mental issues, hard to believe he is an actual M.D. . Might have something to do with his drug addiction, of course.

Me personally? I'm giving discounts on consulting.

Him?  I think he really does think that the XPY will go up significantly and he's bought into the idea that the future increase will offset his current losses. I'm pretty sure anyone who's offering to sell gold already knows it isn't a retail type of market. Notice that he's not using spot prices?  He probably has a local shop that can sell to him at a "FMV"-ish price and going to take a personal hit for 'the interim' until XPY shoots off to the moon.

I think its a bad business decision, but I've looked at some of the online links related to him and he's not going to have Mensa battering down his door any time soon... so, unjustified, idealistic belief in Paycoin is consistent with his past performance.

I think you are missing something regarding Gold/Silver pricing. Fair Market Value is what you can actually buy something for. Small purchases like a single gram of gold or a single ounce of Silver will run you maybe ~20% MAX over spot, and that is if you do not know how to shop around. In today's market you can buy locally for ~5% over spot prices for less than ~1,000ish and more like 2% over spot once you get up above that.  Beyond that the discounts to approach actual spot are very gradual as the quantities go up exponentially. What WhoCares is saying is that he is going to sell at less than he can buy his inventory for, unless of course, he plans on saying "Fair Market Value" is WAAY above spot and then give a ~5-10% discount or such, which then he is just full of bullshit and what he is stating is pure lies.

So, in a nutshell, this WhoCares guy is either a complete idiot or a liar, or some combination of those two things.