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[truckinusa44]

I wonder how many cases pass this threshold and go to a settlement versus cases that go to trial?  I'm curious what they are pushing for(trial or settlement)?  I mean, it may be in Fraser's best interest to admit no guilt and settle for a million dollars.  I assume he has over 10 million?  I tried to assess his net worth, but it is not obvious.  Maybe someone has done some better digging on his wealth?

He's a vice-chairman (or used to be anyway) of a major Wall St bank... he should be north of $100m unless he's very fond of hookers and blow.

I don't have specific numbers but for example this prospectus shows Fraser selling 0.5 million shares of BGC and keeping another 1 million shares. Price at the time of sale ~$10 each, today ~$16.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1094831/000119312511225937/d424b3.htm
So we are talking $15-25 million just in this one investment.

Also there are SEC filings showing millions of dollars in bonuses to CF execs, although I couldn't find one with Fraser's name in it.

And yes, settling would be wise for everyone involved. It's cheaper and I'm sure neither Fraser nor CF want lawyers digging through their dirty laundry.

I was surprised his home is pretty modest in Armonk. Somewhere around 3.5 million.
  https://www.google.com/maps/place/18+Maple+Way,+Armonk,+NY+10504/@41.143771,-73.6815083,3a,75y,298.61h,88.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s*211m3*211y9926703915863291173*212y2526830063622871004*213m0*212m2*211x411437825*212x3558151996*213m2*211y9926702557747549579*212y4838639232432579157*215m2*211x411437825*212x3558151996!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c2bc9e1782b525:0x23111a8e1e04d7dc!8m2!3d41.144667!4d-73.6815799
 I figured someone would chime in that knew the exact answer.   I suppose if you have upwards of 10 million dollars it is possible you could trade on margin.  Not much information out there on him.  I guess what baffles me the most is this "Threshold" for a fraud case has been met.  Another "Threshold" for whether or not he was in control has been met at least to investigate this case further.  I know it is a civil case, but I wonder why there are no criminal charges?

[cody500555]

Hey everyone I just found gawsuit.com and noticed the class action lawsuit is still ongoing. Can someone please get me in contact with the group or a lawyer representing us? I lost quite a bit and am very interested in stepping forward as a plantiff with more material for the suit.

[zurg]

Hey everyone I just found gawsuit.com and noticed the class action lawsuit is still ongoing. Can someone please get me in contact with the group or a lawyer representing us? I lost quite a bit and am very interested in stepping forward as a plantiff with more material for the suit.

There is a contact on the page.
http://gawsuit.com/contact/

However back when we were submitting the documents there was a timeline.
So not sure if they'll let you be added or not.
But then again I have no idea whats going on with the lawsuit either.

[cody500555]

Hey everyone I just found gawsuit.com and noticed the class action lawsuit is still ongoing. Can someone please get me in contact with the group or a lawyer representing us? I lost quite a bit and am very interested in stepping forward as a plantiff with more material for the suit.

There is a contact on the page.
http://gawsuit.com/contact/

However back when we were submitting the documents there was a timeline.
So not sure if they'll let you be added or not.
But then again I have no idea whats going on with the lawsuit either.

I see, I emailed the address on the website. Unfortunately I've lost all my receipts that were emailed to me and google support is unable to recover them as they have been "permanently deleted as if they never existed" so I guess Im kind of screwed right? I have my old wallet that I believe I used for some of the payments, could that be used as proof for my claim? If the tx is direct from me to a ZenCloud/GawMiners address? I'm not quite sure what evidence is being used in the suit, but I'd like to hope the addresses of the site were seized after Josh and Fraser attempted the silent treatment with the SEC.

[zurg]

Hey everyone I just found gawsuit.com and noticed the class action lawsuit is still ongoing. Can someone please get me in contact with the group or a lawyer representing us? I lost quite a bit and am very interested in stepping forward as a plantiff with more material for the suit.

There is a contact on the page.
http://gawsuit.com/contact/

However back when we were submitting the documents there was a timeline.
So not sure if they'll let you be added or not.
But then again I have no idea whats going on with the lawsuit either.

I see, I emailed the address on the website. Unfortunately I've lost all my receipts that were emailed to me and google support is unable to recover them as they have been "permanently deleted as if they never existed" so I guess Im kind of screwed right? I have my old wallet that I believe I used for some of the payments, could that be used as proof for my claim? If the tx is direct from me to a ZenCloud/GawMiners address? I'm not quite sure what evidence is being used in the suit, but I'd like to hope the addresses of the site were seized after Josh and Fraser attempted the silent treatment with the SEC.

Maybe, but I really don't expect much from this if anything at all.
They had us login to the website while it was still semi functional and pull data from there. Cant remember much some CSV files.

[RoomBot]

Hey everyone I just found gawsuit.com and noticed the class action lawsuit is still ongoing. Can someone please get me in contact with the group or a lawyer representing us? I lost quite a bit and am very interested in stepping forward as a plantiff with more material for the suit.

There is a contact on the page.
http://gawsuit.com/contact/

However back when we were submitting the documents there was a timeline.
So not sure if they'll let you be added or not.
But then again I have no idea whats going on with the lawsuit either.

I see, I emailed the address on the website. Unfortunately I've lost all my receipts that were emailed to me and google support is unable to recover them as they have been "permanently deleted as if they never existed" so I guess Im kind of screwed right? I have my old wallet that I believe I used for some of the payments, could that be used as proof for my claim? If the tx is direct from me to a ZenCloud/GawMiners address? I'm not quite sure what evidence is being used in the suit, but I'd like to hope the addresses of the site were seized after Josh and Fraser attempted the silent treatment with the SEC.

The only hope for GAWsuit plaintiffs AFAIK, is if a judgement (or more likely settlement) is reached against Stuart Fraser.

I just wonder if SEC / DOJ can claim any of that money first??

Garbanzo owes them $20 Million in penalties & interest already!

I seriously doubt they will let anyone in to the GAWsuit at this point.

You implied you have damaging info?

"More material for the suit." 

They need victim impact statements for Garza's criminal sentencing in January.

What have you got?

[truckinusa44]

Wish Bob Audette had some real news or opinions on this matter.  He has definitely been better in the past. 

http://www.reformer.com/stories/judge-denies-dismissal-of-gaw-civil-lawsuit,522181

[gembitz]

Hey everyone I just found gawsuit.com and noticed the class action lawsuit is still ongoing. Can someone please get me in contact with the group or a lawyer representing us? I lost quite a bit and am very interested in stepping forward as a plantiff with more material for the suit.

There is a contact on the page.
http://gawsuit.com/contact/

However back when we were submitting the documents there was a timeline.
So not sure if they'll let you be added or not.
But then again I have no idea whats going on with the lawsuit either.

I see, I emailed the address on the website. Unfortunately I've lost all my receipts that were emailed to me and google support is unable to recover them as they have been "permanently deleted as if they never existed" so I guess Im kind of screwed right? I have my old wallet that I believe I used for some of the payments, could that be used as proof for my claim? If the tx is direct from me to a ZenCloud/GawMiners address? I'm not quite sure what evidence is being used in the suit, but I'd like to hope the addresses of the site were seized after Josh and Fraser attempted the silent treatment with the SEC.

The only hope for GAWsuit plaintiffs AFAIK, is if a judgement (or more likely settlement) is reached against Stuart Fraser.

I just wonder if SEC / DOJ can claim any of that money first??

Garbanzo owes them $20 Million in penalties & interest already!

I seriously doubt they will let anyone in to the GAWsuit at this point.

You implied you have damaging info?

"More material for the suit."  

They need victim impact statements for Garza's criminal sentencing in January.

What have you got?

i want my coins get back first lol

[zurg]

Hey everyone I just found gawsuit.com and noticed the class action lawsuit is still ongoing. Can someone please get me in contact with the group or a lawyer representing us? I lost quite a bit and am very interested in stepping forward as a plantiff with more material for the suit.

There is a contact on the page.
http://gawsuit.com/contact/

However back when we were submitting the documents there was a timeline.
So not sure if they'll let you be added or not.
But then again I have no idea whats going on with the lawsuit either.

I see, I emailed the address on the website. Unfortunately I've lost all my receipts that were emailed to me and google support is unable to recover them as they have been "permanently deleted as if they never existed" so I guess Im kind of screwed right? I have my old wallet that I believe I used for some of the payments, could that be used as proof for my claim? If the tx is direct from me to a ZenCloud/GawMiners address? I'm not quite sure what evidence is being used in the suit, but I'd like to hope the addresses of the site were seized after Josh and Fraser attempted the silent treatment with the SEC.

The only hope for GAWsuit plaintiffs AFAIK, is if a judgement (or more likely settlement) is reached against Stuart Fraser.

I just wonder if SEC / DOJ can claim any of that money first??

Garbanzo owes them $20 Million in penalties & interest already!

I seriously doubt they will let anyone in to the GAWsuit at this point.

You implied you have damaging info?

"More material for the suit."  

They need victim impact statements for Garza's criminal sentencing in January.

What have you got?

i want my coins get back first lol

Well, don't we all?
Unless they squeeze Fraser we probably will only dream of getting anything back.

[RoomBot]

Hey everyone I just found gawsuit.com and noticed the class action lawsuit is still ongoing. Can someone please get me in contact with the group or a lawyer representing us? I lost quite a bit and am very interested in stepping forward as a plantiff with more material for the suit.

There is a contact on the page.
http://gawsuit.com/contact/

However back when we were submitting the documents there was a timeline.
So not sure if they'll let you be added or not.
But then again I have no idea whats going on with the lawsuit either.

I see, I emailed the address on the website. Unfortunately I've lost all my receipts that were emailed to me and google support is unable to recover them as they have been "permanently deleted as if they never existed" so I guess Im kind of screwed right? I have my old wallet that I believe I used for some of the payments, could that be used as proof for my claim? If the tx is direct from me to a ZenCloud/GawMiners address? I'm not quite sure what evidence is being used in the suit, but I'd like to hope the addresses of the site were seized after Josh and Fraser attempted the silent treatment with the SEC.

The only hope for GAWsuit plaintiffs AFAIK, is if a judgement (or more likely settlement) is reached against Stuart Fraser.

I just wonder if SEC / DOJ can claim any of that money first??

Garbanzo owes them $20 Million in penalties & interest already!

I seriously doubt they will let anyone in to the GAWsuit at this point.

You implied you have damaging info?

"More material for the suit."  

They need victim impact statements for Garza's criminal sentencing in January.

What have you got?

i want my coins get back first lol

Well, don't we all?
Unless they squeeze Fraser we probably will only dream of getting anything back.

Insiders say that a GAWsuit win will lead to criminal charges being pursued against "Uncle Stu."   

[Gleb Gamow]

Hey everyone I just found gawsuit.com and noticed the class action lawsuit is still ongoing. Can someone please get me in contact with the group or a lawyer representing us? I lost quite a bit and am very interested in stepping forward as a plantiff with more material for the suit.

There is a contact on the page.
http://gawsuit.com/contact/

However back when we were submitting the documents there was a timeline.
So not sure if they'll let you be added or not.
But then again I have no idea whats going on with the lawsuit either.

I see, I emailed the address on the website. Unfortunately I've lost all my receipts that were emailed to me and google support is unable to recover them as they have been "permanently deleted as if they never existed" so I guess Im kind of screwed right? I have my old wallet that I believe I used for some of the payments, could that be used as proof for my claim? If the tx is direct from me to a ZenCloud/GawMiners address? I'm not quite sure what evidence is being used in the suit, but I'd like to hope the addresses of the site were seized after Josh and Fraser attempted the silent treatment with the SEC.

The only hope for GAWsuit plaintiffs AFAIK, is if a judgement (or more likely settlement) is reached against Stuart Fraser.

I just wonder if SEC / DOJ can claim any of that money first??

Garbanzo owes them $20 Million in penalties & interest already!

I seriously doubt they will let anyone in to the GAWsuit at this point.

You implied you have damaging info?

"More material for the suit."  

They need victim impact statements for Garza's criminal sentencing in January.

What have you got?

i want my coins get back first lol

Well, don't we all?
Unless they squeeze Fraser we probably will only dream of getting anything back.

Interesting! Squeeze. Who is Cantor Fitzgerald's biggest thorn?

[truckinusa44]

Can we do a little friendly betting on how much Stuart will have to pay or not pay at all?  Maybe bet how many months Homero will get after sentencing?  Everyone chip in $5 and really donate to a 911 charity? 

[RoomBot]

Can we do a little friendly betting on how much Stuart will have to pay or not pay at all?  Maybe bet how many months Homero will get after sentencing?  Everyone chip in $5 and really donate to a 911 charity?  

Start a new thread, Dude, and link it here.

Why not a BTC pool for all the "Looser Muggles" to win??  

[sirazimuth]

Can we do a little friendly betting on how much Stuart will have to pay or not pay at all?  Maybe bet how many months Homero will get after sentencing?  Everyone chip in $5 and really donate to a 911 charity?  

Start a new thread, Dude, and link it here.

Why not a BTC pool for all the Looser Loser Muggles to win??   FTFY

sorry to be spelling nazi, @RoomB... it's just that particular one really gets me going as it's all over these forums..  our buddy bitbar was one of worst offenders!

[Gleb Gamow]

Can we do a little friendly betting on how much Stuart will have to pay or not pay at all?  Maybe bet how many months Homero will get after sentencing?  Everyone chip in $5 and really donate to a 911 charity?  

Start a new thread, Dude, and link it here.

Why not a BTC pool for all the Looser Loser Muggles to win??   FTFY

sorry to be spelling nazi, @RoomB... it's just that particular one really gets me going as it's all over these forums..  our buddy bitbar was one of worst offenders!

Speakin' of wurst offenders ...

[RoomBot]

OMG DUDE

Let me edit that!

Why not a BTC pool for all the "Looser Muggles" to win??  

It's Garza-Speak. Guess ya had to be there, mate.  

FTFY

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez.

[truckinusa44]

Why is Uncle Stu on the board of directors for a 911 memorial video documentary project?  Maybe a little irony?  http://www.projectrebirth.org/

[gembitz]

Hey everyone I just found gawsuit.com and noticed the class action lawsuit is still ongoing. Can someone please get me in contact with the group or a lawyer representing us? I lost quite a bit and am very interested in stepping forward as a plantiff with more material for the suit.

There is a contact on the page.
http://gawsuit.com/contact/

However back when we were submitting the documents there was a timeline.
So not sure if they'll let you be added or not.
But then again I have no idea whats going on with the lawsuit either.

I see, I emailed the address on the website. Unfortunately I've lost all my receipts that were emailed to me and google support is unable to recover them as they have been "permanently deleted as if they never existed" so I guess Im kind of screwed right? I have my old wallet that I believe I used for some of the payments, could that be used as proof for my claim? If the tx is direct from me to a ZenCloud/GawMiners address? I'm not quite sure what evidence is being used in the suit, but I'd like to hope the addresses of the site were seized after Josh and Fraser attempted the silent treatment with the SEC.

The only hope for GAWsuit plaintiffs AFAIK, is if a judgement (or more likely settlement) is reached against Stuart Fraser.

I just wonder if SEC / DOJ can claim any of that money first??

Garbanzo owes them $20 Million in penalties & interest already!

I seriously doubt they will let anyone in to the GAWsuit at this point.

You implied you have damaging info?

"More material for the suit."  

They need victim impact statements for Garza's criminal sentencing in January.

What have you got?

i want my coins get back first lol

Well, don't we all?
Unless they squeeze Fraser we probably will only dream of getting anything back.

how many bitcoins does he have? i have a vice and pliers weeee lol

[Gleb Gamow]

Why is Uncle Stu on the board of directors for a 911 memorial video documentary project?  Maybe a little irony?  http://www.projectrebirth.org/

Because he's related to a guy who's related to a guy who sucked off a guy who's a higher-up (no pun intended, if you get my plain drift) at CF.

[Shinta_dekay1911]

The show has been playing out for too long when do we get to see josh get raped in the ass