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[Updated 3/26/2016] We're proud to announce that Augur has officially entered beta testing! The beta test is open to everyone, and nothing is more valuable to us at this point than blunt, detailed user feedback, so please check it out at https://augur.net.

Augur is a decentralized prediction market platform built on Ethereum.  Please visit http://www.augur.org to learn more!
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November 18, 2014, 04:47:51 AM
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Best of luck.  My only small complaint is that the Augur website, powered by simple machines forum, looks exactly like the Bitcoin Forum, which is somewhat confusing.  Best if you change the design layout a bit so not to give the impression it is part and parcel with this forum.

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November 18, 2014, 04:57:53 AM
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I read the paper quickly.  What Augur seems to be is:

1.  A prediction market, using bitcoin as the medium of exchange, but also allowing you to use other currencies, including it seems, Truthcoin, and, for stability (ironically!?) the US dollar

2.  using Augur one can avoid the numerous anti-gambling laws that apply to prediction markets (sad but true, as I am a fan of prediction markets; iPredict in New Zealand is one such example)

3.  using Augur you can buy or sell shares in a prediction, and it is locked in the Augur blockchain.  If your prediction comes true, then somehow (not 100% clear how) you can collect on your bet, if: (i) a super-user, or users, with high "reputation", reports that the event occurred as predicted, and, (ii) once this super-user(s) (with typically many such super-users reaching a consensus) says a prediction has occurred, then the Augur blockchain is 'unlocked' and people who made bets one way or the other can collect, via the blockchain, on their bet (if they won), or, if they lost, their bitcoins/truthcoins / USD amounts are also transferred to the winners.

4.  From the OP " If such an individual is dishonest, they are punished, and if they tell the truth, their reputation increases (this is discovered via principal component analysis)." - what is the punishment?  A hit in their Reputation points?  I suppose so.

Can any reader confirm the above?

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November 18, 2014, 10:29:10 PM
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Hey Tony,

Appreciate your interest!  Your summary is pretty spot on, I'll clarify a few things:

1.  Exactly!  As for the US dollar part, the way it would work is as follows: you buy some bitcoin, then when you want to use the Augur platform you can sidechain the bitcoin over directly.  The problem with this is if we make a prediction on something that happens a year from now, we may not want to keep our money wagered in bitcoin that entire time.  In this scenario what would be best is if we could hold USD, unfortunately there is no cryptocurrency-usd, however we can convert our money into a seigniorage-based coin.  Basically, if more people use the coin, supply goes up, so as to maintain par value with the USD.  One example of this is Nubits.

2.  No comment.

3.  This is more or less correct, with the exception that anyone can be a reporter on outcomes, not just an elite group of super users/oracles.  The more accurate you are, the more your reports are weighted.

4.  Yep, their reputation points take a hit. 
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December 19, 2014, 03:34:01 AM
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Have you considered using Factom for Augur?

How are you finding this project?
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January 20, 2015, 07:42:39 PM
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Would it be possible to create a data feed in Augur with e.g. an hourly fiat exchange rate update?

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February 14, 2015, 11:20:38 AM
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Why Augur chose Ethereum as the development environment for its 'decentralized prediction market platform'
 
http://www.augur.net/blog/why-ethereum

https://blog.ethereum.org/

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February 17, 2015, 11:02:36 PM
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SF Bitcoin Devs Seminar:  Using Serpent on Augur to Build Prediction Markets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7JVcAgP1nw

Published on Feb 11, 2015
Jack Peterson & Joey Krug present the details of how they're implementing a decentralized PM, why Bitcoin is the best fuel for a decentralized PM, and how (+why) they are using Serpent to do it.
http://www.augur.net/


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February 23, 2015, 08:21:53 AM
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Would it be possible to create a data feed in Augur with e.g. an hourly fiat exchange rate update?

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February 24, 2015, 06:55:52 AM
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This is some what close to the binary markets, it was a great a idea, i wish we could have it for btc too, is anyone building something like this for btc at the moment?
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February 25, 2015, 08:58:00 AM
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Just found out about Augur, very very cool. I started some threads on this forum to inquire about Bitcoin prediction market development projects, but didn't find anything really wow. This is the most promising project that I have seen so far.
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February 27, 2015, 12:34:24 PM
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This is hugely important work, thanks for your efforts!

Like many brilliant ideas around these parts, I am left wondering "where is the implementation?"

I think you will find that determining "the truth" or in the language of your whitepaper "accurate reporting" is the crux of the biscuit.  I see from your blog you are tackling this head on and moving past the days of suggesting that "Googling" is somehow part of the solution.  if we could trust a predetermined third party to report on outcomes we wouldn't need your project. 

I think you will find that some use of proof of coin holdings by reporters for trust of event reporting is a good way to go.

You will also need to make a decent analysis of the monetary risk of corruption of reporting source (I guess people are using the name oracle for this which I don't like but hey that's pretty typical of language).  In other words, if the bids and asks on a given prediction market really start to heat up and the amount of BTC at stake starts to reach some function of the BTC that is being held and counted in use of reporting the event outcome, the reliability of this market is compromised. 

So sorry, just more ideas here, not the implementations you would like. 

Keep up the good work!  I have money riding on your success Wink

 
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"Augur Bets on Bright Future for Blockchain Prediction Markets"

http://www.coindesk.com/augur-future-blockchain-prediction-market/


The article w/ annotations by Joey Krug:

http://genius.com/4974142/Pete-rizzo-augur-bets-on-bright-future-for-blockchain-prediction-markets/His-latest-idea

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March 26, 2015, 02:26:15 AM
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Introducing the Team Building A Decentralized Prediction Market

"Tony Sakich, Augur's Director of Marketing introduces both Lead Software Developers for Augur, Joey Krug & Dr. Jack Peterson.  

Joey and Jack co-wrote the Augur White Paper and are a part of the brilliant development team currently working for Augur."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64ArAtF0flw
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April 13, 2015, 11:05:38 AM
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Are your block times under 10 seconds or do you still depend on the slower and older algos?
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April 13, 2015, 11:25:09 PM
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Would it be possible to create a data feed in Augur with e.g. an hourly fiat exchange rate update?

Seems I don't have the email from my old 2011 account anymore & thus can't recover the password :/  Anyway,

Yep --- you'd basically create a branch with a quick reporting period

Regarding block times, currently looking at ~12 seconds.
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April 13, 2015, 11:36:28 PM
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This is some what close to the binary markets, it was a great a idea, i wish we could have it for btc too, is anyone building something like this for btc at the moment?

We'll allow you to use sidechained Bitcoin once sidechains are released. 
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This is hugely important work, thanks for your efforts!

Like many brilliant ideas around these parts, I am left wondering "where is the implementation?"

I think you will find that determining "the truth" or in the language of your whitepaper "accurate reporting" is the crux of the biscuit.  I see from your blog you are tackling this head on and moving past the days of suggesting that "Googling" is somehow part of the solution.  if we could trust a predetermined third party to report on outcomes we wouldn't need your project. 

I think you will find that some use of proof of coin holdings by reporters for trust of event reporting is a good way to go.

You will also need to make a decent analysis of the monetary risk of corruption of reporting source (I guess people are using the name oracle for this which I don't like but hey that's pretty typical of language).  In other words, if the bids and asks on a given prediction market really start to heat up and the amount of BTC at stake starts to reach some function of the BTC that is being held and counted in use of reporting the event outcome, the reliability of this market is compromised. 

So sorry, just more ideas here, not the implementations you would like. 

Keep up the good work!  I have money riding on your success Wink



You're exactly right that it's the crux of the biscuit (fellow biscuit lover here btw)! 

There's been a lot of discussion and work done on risks of corruption by Vitalik Buterin (his p+epsilon posts) and Paul Sztorc (Truthcoin whitepaper and forum discussions).  I think it'd be interesting to do some BAR (Byzantine, Altruistic, Rational) analysis on our system's reporting aspects.  Yeah, you're right on the BTC at stake part; the problem starts to appear when the BTC at stake in a market is > value of all reputation used for reporting.

Thank you, just finished a major codebase refactoring & put a bunch of our contracts on ethereum blockchain so I'm quite excited too!
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"We recently put almost all of Augur's contracts on chain and last night made
our first live function call on Ethereum's Frontier testnet. "

http://www.augur.net/blog/augur-creates-first-on-chain-event




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April 27, 2015, 08:48:12 PM
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We just made this announcement and wanted to share it here.

We've now gotten all augur contracts on the live Ethereum testnet. All function calls have been tested (albeit naively, with more testing ongoing) and confirmed working. Our code is now open source, lots of documentation & a UI will be coming soon.

https://github.com/AugurProject/Augur-core
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May 14, 2015, 05:38:20 PM
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We just made this announcement and wanted to share it here.

We've now gotten all augur contracts on the live Ethereum testnet. All function calls have been tested (albeit naively, with more testing ongoing) and confirmed working. Our code is now open source, lots of documentation & a UI will be coming soon.

https://github.com/AugurProject/Augur-core

This is very interesting. Please keep us posted on any updates
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May 20, 2015, 05:40:51 AM
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This is Tony from the Augur team and I wanted to share our latest blog posts with the community as I feel they will be of interest, one is about Combinatorial Prediction Markets and the other is a guest post by Augur Advisor and Wharton Researcher, Dr. Abe Othman on Automated Market Makers.

In addition, I have been on BitcoinTalk before but feel free to follow myself on Twitter http://twitter.com/tonyswish or check out my podcast (Episode 19 with Augur Lead Dev. Joey Krug is recommended) at decentralize.fm.

Why Combinatorial Prediction Markets are Useful by Augur Lead Dev. Joey Krug - http://www.augur.net/blog/why-combinatorial-prediction-markets-are-useful

What is an Automated Market Maker? by Dr. Abe Othman - http://www.augur.net/blog/what-is-an-automated-market-maker

For the latest updates about the project, I want to also share a few links here as we want to make sure BitcoinTalk members can follow what we are doing in the easiest manner possible:

Augur Blog - http://www.augur.net/#blog
Augur on Twitter - http://twitter.com/AugurProject
Augur on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/augurproject
Augur on GitHub - https://github.com/AugurProject
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In addition to my earlier post, we released a video that explains Augur in a simplified and easy to understand manner. My good friend (and Bitcoin fan) Country singer Shooter Jennings was nice enough to narrate the video, which I believe came out great.

This is something I wish that had it's own thread, if you are interested in the project please share this with anyone who you think would share interest, it would be greatly appreciated.

Check out my short blog post that accompanied the video http://www.augur.net/blog/how-augur-works-video.

Direct link to the video on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yegyih591Jo
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What is the token called for augurs crowdsale, reputation? What can you do with these token and how many will there be out there?

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We are projecting the crowdsale to begin two weeks after the Ethereum Frontier release as of now, stay tuned to Augur.net and follow our Twitter feed www.twitter.com/augurproject for up date information on this.

The token will be used for people to report on event outcomes within the system. Essentially REP is the first decentralized oracle solution ever implemented. It allows holders to report on the outcome of events in Augur’s prediction markets, and rewards them for both honesty and regular reporting, with half of all trading fees on the platform.

In the coming weeks we will be releasing a short video and blog post that goes into more detail so keep an eye out on Augur.net.
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Checkout our alpha too at http://www.augur.net/blog/the-augur-alpha-is-now-available-to-download
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The demo looks incredible! Can you tell me in brief how decision logics work?

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The demo looks incredible! Can you tell me in brief how decision logistics work?

Sure, so basically:

1) Someone creates a market on an event and adds some initial liquidity to that market to kick it off
2) People buy and sell both outcomes, so for a question like "Will Hillary Clinton win the 2016 US Presidential election?" you can buy yes or no shares
3) You can sell your shares at any time
4) Or, if you think you chose correctly, you can hold onto them until after the event occurs
5) If you're right you'll end up getting $1/share that you bought - payouts are determined based off our oracle system explained here: http://www.augur.net/blog/what-is-reputation
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@augurproject
The demo looks incredible! Can you tell me in brief how decision logistics work?

Sure, so basically:

1) Someone creates a market on an event and adds some initial liquidity to that market to kick it off
2) People buy and sell both outcomes, so for a question like "Will Hillary Clinton win the 2016 US Presidential election?" you can buy yes or no shares
3) You can sell your shares at any time
4) Or, if you think you chose correctly, you can hold onto them until after the event occurs
5) If you're right you'll end up getting $1/share that you bought - payouts are determined based off our oracle system explained here: http://www.augur.net/blog/what-is-reputation
So the outcome is determined by voting (REP). First I thought it was a weak point in the app but there is a nice anti-cheating system built-in.

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How is the project progressing?
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How is the project progressing?

Live demo available.
http://demo.augur.net/

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Sweet!

What other prediction markets have existed in BTC? I know a few have.
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This is much like binary options, but even better.
I like the ideia! But I honestly don't understand how a lot of people can make a more accurate forecast than experts...

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Sweet!

What other prediction markets have existed in BTC? I know a few have.
Haven't yet. But there is Truthcoin in development too.

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You can buy it on the exchange?
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Wanted to just give everyone here an update of what's going on with Augur.

On Monday, August 17th we are starting our Reputation Token crowdsale at 12PM EST. We meticulously went over the options for token distribution methods and although a crowdsale was not exactly our favorite choice, it was the one necessary as the tokens need to have value in order for our decentralized oracle system to work. We wrote a a blog post going into a bit more detail about why we are using a crowdsale, I would encourage everyone to check it out http://www.augur.net/blog/why-a-crowdsale-is-necessary-for-augur-to-work-some-updates.

For those who want to participate in the crowdsale, the official website is http://sale.augur.net and it is currently up. Additionally, for instructions on how to participate and other important information, we have put all of the directions and important information up here http://www.augur.net/blog/the-augur-crowdsale.

In the crowdsale page above, we detail our prospective timeline for further Augur development, I would encourage everyone to check that out as well. Wanted to include image that highlights the important details for the crowdsale with everyone. Feel free to share this image and any information about what we are doing as it's greatly appreciated.

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I really want to see this project take off.  However, I spent a good afternoon trying to get the software to work on Linux or Windows, in the end i gave up.
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I really want to see this project take off.  However, I spent a good afternoon trying to get the software to work on Linux or Windows, in the end i gave up.

I'm interested in this project as well and still struggling with getting a valid Ethereum address. But it appears you can create an address at their site when you login. I just may do that.
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Well this token sale has taken off to the races.... 2,000 BTC in 10 hours...sheesh.
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The project is interested, in on the first day bought a little of shares
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The details in this crowdsale are very thin - say comparing to Ethereum.

A key question would be - what timeframe do you envisage the REP being distributed - 2 months? This year? Next Year or longer?

Is the use Augur and distribution of REP tied to stages of Ethereum?

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@DEV, you guys got 2.4 million dollars so far with a shit IPO website, there is NO 2 factor authentication, no captcha, if my username and password are stolen, my money will lose. It sucks, this is unacceptable! Please enhance the IPO website security!!!

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@DEV, you guys got 2.4 million dollars so far with a shit IPO website, there is NO 2 factor authentication, no captcha, if my username and password are stolen, my money will lose. It sucks, this is unacceptable! Please enhance the IPO website security!!!

Tend to agree with you actually - overall its not very professional at all.


                                                   
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@DEV, you guys got 2.4 million dollars so far with a shit IPO website, there is NO 2 factor authentication, no captcha, if my username and password are stolen, my money will lose. It sucks, this is unacceptable! Please enhance the IPO website security!!!

Tend to agree with you actually - overall its not very professional at all.

I also agree: the crowdsale process seems a little "poor" and informal...

I really don't understand why they started a crowdsale when Frontier (beta CLI ethereum app) is in its inicial (buggy) stages.

Why didn't they wait for metropolis Mist (GUI)?

Why didn't they (at least) come up with a tool like that of Kraken ( http://kraken.com/ether ) to easy use pre-sale ether coins?

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wow Kraken - thats 120%

https://www.kraken.com/ether

Congratulations

@DEV, you guys got 2.4 million dollars so far with a shit IPO website, there is NO 2 factor authentication, no captcha, if my username and password are stolen, my money will lose. It sucks, this is unacceptable! Please enhance the IPO website security!!!

Tend to agree with you actually - overall its not very professional at all.

I also agree: the crowdsale process seems a little "poor" and informal...

I really don't understand why they started a crowdsale when Frontier (beta CLI ethereum app) is in its inicial (buggy) stages.

Why didn't they wait for metropolis Mist (GUI)?

Why didn't they (at least) come up with a tool like that of Kraken ( http://kraken.com/ether ) to easy use pre-sale ether coins?


                                                   
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It has come to my attention that this project is a 1COP2COS a.k.a. The Bubble Scam

Read more about the The Private Pre-Crowdsale/Pre-Sale/Early-Sale/Pre-ICO/Seed Investor Scam




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"there is NO 2 factor authentication"

Not true --- right hand side you can use Clef to login (which is 2fa).  Don't want to use clef, setup 2fa with facebook or google and use them.
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Is this app actually decentralized? There is no contact to any centralized sever ever?



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Is this app actually decentralized? There is no contact to any centralized sever ever?




So the only point there'd be contact to one is to download the UI (which is then run in your browser after that).  You can check the hash to make sure it's not modified, or you could even use something like IPFS, eliminating all contact to centralized servers.
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Will I be required to run some sort of ethereum node to use this app?



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"there is NO 2 factor authentication"

Not true --- right hand side you can use Clef to login (which is 2fa).  Don't want to use clef, setup 2fa with facebook or google and use them.

Clef don't work on my cell phone after many tries, why don't you add Google 2 factor authentication to cover the safety of username/password login part, it's cask theory or short plate theory.
One more thing, how many bitcoin did you guys receive in pre-IPO phase, is there any place we can check this ?

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"there is NO 2 factor authentication"

Not true --- right hand side you can use Clef to login (which is 2fa).  Don't want to use clef, setup 2fa with facebook or google and use them.

Clef don't work on my cell phone after many tries, why don't you add Google 2 factor authentication to cover the safety of username/password login part, it's cask theory or short plate theory.
One more thing, how many bitcoin did you guys receive in pre-IPO phase, is there any place we can check this ?



The funds raised during the ICOP part of this ICOP2COS were posted by Joey Krug on twitter:

https://twitter.com/jessecouch/status/633467676942168065


augur pre-crowdsale investor tx ids

https://blockchain.info/tx/06ea3fe959210badd6c4bd76683c7e400f781f7076385b1c9221552b54c0bcf3
https://blockchain.info/tx/69ee0f7119b0173e89f0890a8720aae4eae6a78e9bb9ad5ee1f837f08ee96296
https://blockchain.info/tx/9c458cae46ebde29a270f53ced588f7e7335d64404e81011c194a42c162039ad
https://blockchain.info/tx/af038d1bb7537d842ae6d6836f3a51af6ab03c8eb72a1b1ee4107af3e349020a
https://blockchain.info/tx/a9b1d0b3913c139830335fd8ffa6ebb1655eb167f32c28d4329b9bb79f223858
https://blockchain.info/tx/e9fae98922228765065b47df617c5e079559f94a1f9d3800e2045eaaccf32c8b
https://blockchain.info/tx/9c39cfadae27ef8b0c951e1a2d6943bf647e27edd2e0bcdfb3bdfff0e4dbb8b1




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Will I be required to run some sort of ethereum node to use this app?






I'm wondering about this.



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Congrat for your IPO, that's really successfull.

However I am wondering how will you handle to sell your coin (70% of value after IPO).

For bitcoin let say you will have 14.000 bitcoin it's quite ok as it represents around 0.1% of total bitcoin amount so the price should not be too much affected.

Now let's say you will get 1.4 million Eth that is around 2% of total supply of ETH so 20X more than with bitcoin, here you will have a huge impact on the ETH price.

Scenario 1: You will dump your ETH after IPO which will crash the price of ETH, so you will get a part of the value after IPO (as it will not be possible to selll all at same price)  but it would be quite fair for investors, however if everybody's know what will happens the price will crash before IPO due to FUD...

Scenario 2: You decide to sell your ether during few months which will put a constant sell pressure, so that will make the price of ether dropping week after week + the FUD associated, thus you will get only a small part of the money you should got but the shares from ETH buyers of REP and bitcoin buyers of REP will not change, so it is not fair for bitcoin investors (shares diluted and ETH sell provide you few money).

Scenario 3: An alternative scenario, like an auction for the ether with some discount but the ETH are blocked for 1 year for exemple like this only long term investors would be interested.

I don't know what is your intention but I remind you that your decision will have huge consequences on ether price.

If you could inform us about what is your plan that would be nice.

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Link: https://twitter.com/ev0k3d/status/636884271261708288

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I have found Augur very interesting. I will see how it stands in time and if it becomes a reliable platform, I will consider using it. By all means, I will keep my eyes on how it goes! Thanks for information!


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I bought some REP, and i'm currently mining Eth with mi humble videocard like there's no tomorrow. I don't want to miss out in case this blows up and the price skyrockets.
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When will this coin list on exchange, is there any plan?
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When will this coin list on exchange, is there any plan?

REP is not really a coin. But I guess it's gonna be listed in coinmarkecap in the future as some kind of "asset".

I don't  even know if it's gonna work in a (centralized) exchange.

Reason: if you don't use it (report bets) you lose it (to other active users who do).

But sure it could possibly be traded in a decentralized exchange on top of ethereum in the future.

Source: http://www.augur.net/blog/what-is-reputation

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OUCH! Augur already exists and it's called groupgnosis.com. Now we learn you lose the stuff you bought if you don't use it! OMG. Augur could go down as the dumbest thing ever to have purchased.

http://groupgnosis.com/
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OUCH! Augur already exists and it's called groupgnosis.com. Now we learn you lose the stuff you bought if you don't use it! OMG. Augur could go down as the dumbest thing ever to have purchased.

http://groupgnosis.com/
WTF, I've never heard about that GNOSIS project.

Who is behind that project?

I couldn't even find a Github repository about that.

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https://sale.augur.net/

Doesn't seem to be working anymore...


Not it's back up

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i ever heard about Augur from forum,and its amazing. great work dude!

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When will this coin list on exchange, is there any plan?

REP is not really a coin. But I guess it's gonna be listed in coinmarkecap in the future as some kind of "asset".

I don't  even know if it's gonna work in a (centralized) exchange.

Reason: if you don't use it (report bets) you lose it (to other active users who do).

But sure it could possibly be traded in a decentralized exchange on top of ethereum in the future.

Source: http://www.augur.net/blog/what-is-reputation

I am so upset, I bought many REP but I don't want to do any bet, I just want to sell them in exchange.

REP aren't going to be wagered, i think you didn't read properly. The only way to lose REP is due inactivity, or reporting wrong outcomes on events.
I bout about 8 REP. In the future, you can grow your REP and receive collected fees (based on your % of REP) on the markets that are going to be opened. It is possible to sell REPs when they become a trade-able asset.
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I think it will have a nice profit on launch but not as much as Ethereum had. Gl
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I think it will have a nice profit on launch but not as much as Ethereum had. Gl
Prior to the launch time for many more, we will wait and hope
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Built upon the theoretical framework of Paul Sztorc's "Truthcoin" project, Augur will be a decentralized, open-source prediction market application platform.  Our team has just published the first draft of our whitepaper, which is available at augur.net.  We're also working on an implementation using Serpent contracts, and we have a working prototype written in python available that can be found at https://github.com/scottzer0/Augur-UI.  

In a nutshell, this project will allow individuals to create markets where bets can be made for, or against, predictions using bitcoin (whether sidechained directly or via Counterparty or Ethereum).  We use a logarithmic market scoring rule to increase liquidity and remove the need for a traditional order book. and instead of having an oracle decide the outcome, we have a distributed group of people report on the outcome of an event after it occurs.  If such an individual is dishonest, they are punished, and if they tell the truth, their reputation increases (this is discovered via principal component analysis).

There is a lot to take in, and we fully expect criticism. In fact, we encourage it! So check out the paper, give us your thoughts, and we look forward to building this powerful forecast consensus mechanism!

Whitepaper available at augur.net
Prototype available at https://github.com/scottzer0/Augur-UI.  

The Counterparty Platform already has a betting system implemented. Is your model similar to do one they have on XCP? what are the main differences?
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Well it seems like many people missed this train, let's do math:

The final price was around 400 rep/bitcoin (230 usd)

With 3 bitcoins you own a little more than 1/10,000 of total reps.

Rep will get profit from fees.


In a conservative scenario where each month only 3 billion usd are wagered on this, ( today there are single sport events where more than that is wagered on a single day)

Let's take a 1% fee of that, that is 30 million usd.


Distributed into 10,000 parts the result is 3000 usd.


So with 3 bitcoins (690 usd) you had the opportunity to make at least 3000/month without doing anything.

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Well it seems like many people missed this train, let's do math:

The final price was around 400 rep/bitcoin (230 usd)

With 3 bitcoins you own a little more than 1/10,000 of total reps.

Rep will get profit from fees.


In a conservative scenario where each month only 3 billion usd are wagered on this, ( today there are single sport events where more than that is wagered on a single day)

Let's take a 1% fee of that, that is 30 million usd.


Distributed into 10,000 parts the result is 3000 usd.


So with 3 bitcoins (690 usd) you had the opportunity to make at least 3000/month without doing anything.

I love your optimism but i think your figures are grossly unrealistic. $3 billion a month is not gonna happen.
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Mr WHite is not happy!

Can't BElieve i missed out on THis, so what can people like myself do to get involved on this GRavy train?  Who do i have to talk to and make a deal happen?


 
 
 
 
 
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October 06, 2015, 11:10:40 AM
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Mr WHite is not happy!

Can't BElieve i missed out on THis, so what can people like myself do to get involved on this GRavy train?  Who do i have to talk to and make a deal happen?

Wait till release in a few months and put some buy orders , thats all you can do at this stage.
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Any predictions for when it will be released?
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Any predictions for when it will be released?

12/25/15 I believe.  (Seriously.)
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BUy Orders?

Will Augur be TRadable on a EXchange?


 
 
 
 
 
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BUy Orders?

Will Augur be TRadable on a EXchange?

yes it will be
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BUy Orders?

Will Augur be TRadable on a EXchange?

yes it will be

HOw much (after THe final sale) is 1 Augur  to BTC ratio?


1 Augur = % BTC = $  ?

I work it out around 395 Augur per 1 BTC = 395 / $250 = $1.58 per 1 Augur?


 
 
 
 
 
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October 08, 2015, 03:02:25 PM
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BUy Orders?

Will Augur be TRadable on a EXchange?

yes it will be

HOw much (after THe final sale) is 1 Augur  to BTC ratio?


1 Augur = % BTC = $  ?

I work it out around 395 Augur per 1 BTC = 395 / $250 = $1.58 per 1 Augur?

Code:
(total_raised_usd/btc_price_usd)/total_tokens_issued = X REP/BTC

So price per Augur REP token is about 0.002 BTC. But after release of the platform 0.02 BTC per REP will be a resonable price.

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October 08, 2015, 03:50:01 PM
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I will be over the moon buying a lamboghini if i can Get a x10 return on my original investment into Augur. Eth served me very well, i think Augur will do even better.

Plus the way it is SEt Up, moRE people will hold it and want a nice slice of the % of revenue it will make.  I can see Augur being a brute Force in the global online betting world.


 
 
 
 
 
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October 15, 2015, 09:40:33 AM
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Since devs don't post updates out here I'll post them.

The Crowdsale, What's New and What's Next: http://www.augur.net/blog/the-crowdsale-what-s-new-and-what-s-next

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Since devs don't post updates out here I'll post them.

The Crowdsale, What's New and What's Next: http://www.augur.net/blog/the-crowdsale-what-s-new-and-what-s-next

Thank you Greed!


 
 
 
 
 
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Gatecoin has launched REP trading asset , https://gatecoin.com/blog/2015/10/gatecoin-launches-rep-trading/
https://gatecoin.com/marketDepth - click top left to change to REP/BTC
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October 16, 2015, 02:07:17 PM
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Interesting.

Does anyone here use this Gatecoin site?

How can REP be traded if we do not have "access" to it?

It seems it is being traded at twice the initial price. EG: If someone bought 10btc worth, they can now sell for more than double around 22BTC.

Am i missing something?

And they ask for quite a lot of ID for registration.......

PS: where are all the people who invested in Augur?  No one seems to want to know anything, very odd, maybe 90% of the investors were the mEthereum team?



 
 
 
 
 
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October 17, 2015, 02:37:58 AM
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you would not be able to sell you REP at gatecoin as REP hasnt been released yet. Gatecoin has pooled the REP of some of their biggest clients and used it to back an asset that will be exchanged for REP on release. Yes its double the price and yes they seem to want to know everything about you!! for upto date info on Augur visit https://www.reddit.com/r/Augur/
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October 17, 2015, 05:08:01 AM
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you would not be able to sell you REP at gatecoin as REP hasnt been released yet. Gatecoin has pooled the REP of some of their biggest clients and used it to back an asset that will be exchanged for REP on release. Yes its double the price and yes they seem to want to know everything about you!! for upto date info on Augur visit https://www.reddit.com/r/Augur/
So only those who invested through Gatecoin can trade their tokens? Am I getiing it right? If I'm then Gatecoin made a very dirty turn.

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October 17, 2015, 06:56:05 AM
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Thanks Zebedee, bookmarked the reddit page.

To reply to last comment also, yes, this is the case, i dont consider it sneaky or dirty move, i see it as being very clever, i think with gatecoin getting in early on the act, they can help to keep prices higher than original investment price, which is a good thing.


What i am far more concerned about, is the release of REP.  Look at all the trouble and hassle people had with getting ETH onto exchanges. 
I hope REP will be much more fair and everyone can start trading within 24hrs of everyone else and not require many hours of confirmations, now what ETH done was dirty.

I hope REP will be easy to obtain, but i doubt it will be.


 
 
 
 
 
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October 17, 2015, 04:07:17 PM
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you would not be able to sell you REP at gatecoin as REP hasnt been released yet. Gatecoin has pooled the REP of some of their biggest clients and used it to back an asset that will be exchanged for REP on release. Yes its double the price and yes they seem to want to know everything about you!! for upto date info on Augur visit https://www.reddit.com/r/Augur/
So only those who invested through Gatecoin can trade their tokens? Am I getiing it right? If I'm then Gatecoin made a very dirty turn.

anyone can buy REP on gatecoin and then swap it for real REP.  unless youve bought this REP asset you cant sell yr REP their only buy and then sell it if u want, i guess the originall holders can .
I dont think its a dirty move at the moment its the only option for people to buy REP.
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October 17, 2015, 04:13:07 PM
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Rather brilliant move really, and a useful service.

But what does it meant to buy REP "through" Gatecoin?  I thought Rep was bought through the Augur site.
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October 17, 2015, 11:06:45 PM
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Rather brilliant move really, and a useful service.

But what does it meant to buy REP "through" Gatecoin?  I thought Rep was bought through the Augur site.

The REP bought at gatecoin is an asset linked to Augur REP. So when the real REP is released you will be able to exchange it for REP
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October 18, 2015, 12:22:19 AM
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Rather brilliant move really, and a useful service.

But what does it meant to buy REP "through" Gatecoin?  I thought Rep was bought through the Augur site.

The REP bought at gatecoin is an asset linked to Augur REP. So when the real REP is released you will be able to exchange it for REP


So Gatecoin bought a bunch of REP and then re-sold it in the form of asset tokens?  If so, under which asset platform, or are the tokens centralized?
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October 18, 2015, 09:20:23 AM
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Rather brilliant move really, and a useful service.

But what does it meant to buy REP "through" Gatecoin?  I thought Rep was bought through the Augur site.

The REP bought at gatecoin is an asset linked to Augur REP. So when the real REP is released you will be able to exchange it for REP


So Gatecoin bought a bunch of REP and then re-sold it in the form of asset tokens?  If so, under which asset platform, or are the tokens centralized?

think they just issued the asset themselves and are holding the accounts with the REP that backs it.
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When and where can I sell my REPs right now.  Are there people here who are willing to buy my REP for double what I paid?

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Rather brilliant move really, and a useful service.

But what does it meant to buy REP "through" Gatecoin?  I thought Rep was bought through the Augur site.

The REP bought at gatecoin is an asset linked to Augur REP. So when the real REP is released you will be able to exchange it for REP


So Gatecoin bought a bunch of REP and then re-sold it in the form of asset tokens?  If so, under which asset platform, or are the tokens centralized?

think they just issued the asset themselves and are holding the accounts with the REP that backs it.

It's a centralized asset?
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Rather brilliant move really, and a useful service.

But what does it meant to buy REP "through" Gatecoin?  I thought Rep was bought through the Augur site.

The REP bought at gatecoin is an asset linked to Augur REP. So when the real REP is released you will be able to exchange it for REP


So Gatecoin bought a bunch of REP and then re-sold it in the form of asset tokens?  If so, under which asset platform, or are the tokens centralized?

think they just issued the asset themselves and are holding the accounts with the REP that backs it.

It's a centralized asset?

REP itself isnt but this gatecoin asset is
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When and where can I sell my REPs right now.  Are there people here who are willing to buy my REP for double what I paid?

You cant officially as it hasnt been released yet so unless you can find somoene to buy your whole account from sale.augur.net and then change the password. Can be done using an escrow.
You could try sell it in https://www.reddit.com/r/reptrader/ or even in the Augur Subreddit
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When and where can I sell my REPs right now.  Are there people here who are willing to buy my REP for double what I paid?

You cant officially as it hasnt been released yet so unless you can find somoene to buy your whole account from sale.augur.net and then change the password. Can be done using an escrow.
You could try sell it in https://www.reddit.com/r/reptrader/ or even in the Augur Subreddit



Yes.  That's what I was thinking.  I'm just wondering if that would be profitable or if it would be a mistake?  I'm really excited about Augur's future, but is owning REP going to be profitable or should I try to double my investment prematurely like Gatecoin?

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When and where can I sell my REPs right now.  Are there people here who are willing to buy my REP for double what I paid?

You cant officially as it hasnt been released yet so unless you can find somoene to buy your whole account from sale.augur.net and then change the password. Can be done using an escrow.
You could try sell it in https://www.reddit.com/r/reptrader/ or even in the Augur Subreddit



Yes.  That's what I was thinking.  I'm just wondering if that would be profitable or if it would be a mistake?  I'm really excited about Augur's future, but is owning REP going to be profitable or should I try to double my investment prematurely like Gatecoin?

Gatecoin REP is the only way you can purchase the real REP(will be real in future) now and may be your best bet to get in as on launch price may well be much higher!! its a gamble!  If Augur is a big success, and its certainly looking like it will be, owning REP may bring in a decent amount of yearly income off trade fees, and then you can always sell it for prob more than you paid for it! Win win!
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after start augur, if i sold my rep will i still make money from fees?

No.  If you don't own REP and report as required, you wont receive any stipend.

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after start augur, if i sold my rep will i still make money from fees?

No.  If you don't own REP and report as required, you wont receive any stipend.

If it is a simple case of, the more REP you have the more % of fees you will get, this will certainly help to hold the price and raise the price of REP.

Unlike Ethereum, which does not have anything holding the price, but Augur, the more rep you have the more you cna earn, this is a perfect way to keep a "coins" value long term, me likey!


 
 
 
 
 
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I'm sorry but I just dont get this?

Its like a job or something or you lose?


after start augur, if i sold my rep will i still make money from fees?

No.  If you don't own REP and report as required, you wont receive any stipend.

If it is a simple case of, the more REP you have the more % of fees you will get, this will certainly help to hold the price and raise the price of REP.

Unlike Ethereum, which does not have anything holding the price, but Augur, the more rep you have the more you cna earn, this is a perfect way to keep a "coins" value long term, me likey!


                                                   
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Augur at the bitcoin conference in Kiev, Ukraine Smiley - Enjoy




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Will you accept CryptoNote coins like Monero and Boolberry?

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I'm sorry but I just dont get this?

Its like a job or something or you lose?


after start augur, if i sold my rep will i still make money from fees?

No.  If you don't own REP and report as required, you wont receive any stipend.

If it is a simple case of, the more REP you have the more % of fees you will get, this will certainly help to hold the price and raise the price of REP.

Unlike Ethereum, which does not have anything holding the price, but Augur, the more rep you have the more you cna earn, this is a perfect way to keep a "coins" value long term, me likey!

Yes, if you fail to report, you will lose some REP, but if you do report, you will increase your REP by collecting a portion of those REP's from those who didn't report.

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It seems REP already can be traded on https://gatecoin.com/.

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Looking forward to release.  Is there an Augur forum or where is the most communication?

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Looking forward to release.  Is there an Augur forum or where is the most communication?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Augur/

http://www.augur.net/#blog
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It seems REP already can be traded on https://gatecoin.com/.

REP hasnt been released yet, gatecoin released an asset linked to REP.
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The Augur team team will be speaking at the Devcon conference tonight.  There's a live stream.  I don't have the link because it doesn't pop up in my Google+ account until just before the speaking begins.  It will be somewhere on YouTube though.  I'm staying up late to watch it;  Augur will be one of the first to speak.  Program link here: http://devcon.ethereum.org/

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Just so everyone knows, some of the team occasionally checks this forum but we mostly use http://reddit.com/r/augur as the primary community for communication and encourage everyone to stop by if interested.

Additionally, I was asked by Vitalik to speak at devcon but was unable to, my speech was unique as it was about marketing, an area that I feel many dapps have been not doing well in. Fortunately, I'm going to give a talk at my school (Oakland University) on November 17th, I'm planning to give the same talk, just with a longer introduction to the tech itself. The school is in Metro-Detroit and created an event page at https://orgsync.com/80128/events/1282308/occurrences/2871069, I'm working on getting someone to both livestream and archive it as I want everyone who attended devcon to be able to check it out.

I can also always be reached on my Twitter http://twitter.com/tonyswish and website http://tonysakich.com. My role at Augur has reduced since the end of the crowdsale but I'm still involved in the project and wanted to make everyone aware of how to contact me as much of my time is going to be diverted to other projects, so channeling the communication into a few channels make it much easier for me.

Thanks again for all of your support and interest!
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is Beta release still happening at end of December?? A dev update would be good , here or in Reddit. Smiley
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Please post the update here!
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Posted by Joey Krug on Augur Reddit. :


 can update from the backend perspective of things. I posted an update a few weeks back here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Augur/comments/3tk233/augur_development_process/cx76oc0
I just updated the TODO list on the backend with the things that have been completed since the time of the post (you can view it in the link above). I've almost gotten "implement backstop one where everyone reports on a market/event" done and then I'm going to start on "implement forking." At that point, the core protocol will be more or less completely implemented on the backend sans various polishing and bug fixes.
So then I plan to refactor the code and remove various artifacts not necessary due to the old consensus algorithms and make it overall a bit tighter, cleaner, and simpler as well as write a test suite for the new consensus algorithm to test all the backstops (everyone reporting on an event and forking). Then after that, it'll be time for security audits!
The last blog post I made was on scaling things, and scalability is going quite nicely implementation wise. There probably won't be a technical blog post from me for a while since I'm focused on implementing things at the moment. However, Ryan has been making a flow diagram of the entire system from start to finish (including all the edge cases / backstops), which I think would be something useful to post once it's finished. So that'll probably be our next post (the diagram following the creation through resolution of any given market on Augur and what that all entails in fairly plain English).
As for the front-end / graphical-user-interface I try not to give predictions or dates about it because they tend to be quite wrong (it's very hard to estimate software release dates when you're developing the software, and nigh impossible when you're estimating software built by someone else). Although I don't mind giving estimates about my software Smiley, I estimate we'll have the first backstop implemented by the end of this week sometime and implementing forking will probably take another week or two. So I suppose the backend will be pretty much feature complete, although an ugly codebase, by Christmas! Although this doesn't really mean anything besides warm fuzzy feelings from both my and your perspectives since we can't actually see all this cool stuff yet! Smiley
For the front end, we've hired someone who used to work on InTrade's UI, and our UI will be migrating over to a more traditional (although sleek, simple, and beautiful) InTrade style UI (although a large part of this UI is already built, and there is an announcement (good news) surrounding this that should probably be made into a blog post or posted on Reddit). I honestly would not bet on it (the front end / UI beta) being done by Christmas. That said, the new UI is probably an order of magnitude better from a design (and implementation) standpoint, so we have that to look forward to, even though I see no way how it could possibly not be late at this point. I'd like to finish up this first backstop in the backend, then next week I'll write up a post on that announcement and add in some variant of the above and wrap it all up for an email update for people who don't check random reddit comment threads (presumably, most people Wink).
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http://www.augur.net/blog/update-approaching-beta
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Just so everyone knows, some of the team occasionally checks this forum but we mostly use http://reddit.com/r/augur as the primary community for communication and encourage everyone to stop by if interested.

Additionally, I was asked by Vitalik to speak at devcon but was unable to, my speech was unique as it was about marketing, an area that I feel many dapps have been not doing well in. Fortunately, I'm going to give a talk at my school (Oakland University) on November 17th, I'm planning to give the same talk, just with a longer introduction to the tech itself. The school is in Metro-Detroit and created an event page at https://orgsync.com/80128/events/1282308/occurrences/2871069, I'm working on getting someone to both livestream and archive it as I want everyone who attended devcon to be able to check it out.

I can also always be reached on my Twitter http://twitter.com/tonyswish and website http://tonysakich.com. My role at Augur has reduced since the end of the crowdsale but I'm still involved in the project and wanted to make everyone aware of how to contact me as much of my time is going to be diverted to other projects, so channeling the communication into a few channels make it much easier for me.

Thanks again for all of your support and interest!

Well shit.  Can't believe I missed that.  OU is right next to me lol

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Do you have widgets to add to websites?

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Just so everyone knows, some of the team occasionally checks this forum but we mostly use http://reddit.com/r/augur as the primary community for communication and encourage everyone to stop by if interested.

Additionally, I was asked by Vitalik to speak at devcon but was unable to, my speech was unique as it was about marketing, an area that I feel many dapps have been not doing well in. Fortunately, I'm going to give a talk at my school (Oakland University) on November 17th, I'm planning to give the same talk, just with a longer introduction to the tech itself. The school is in Metro-Detroit and created an event page at https://orgsync.com/80128/events/1282308/occurrences/2871069, I'm working on getting someone to both livestream and archive it as I want everyone who attended devcon to be able to check it out.

I can also always be reached on my Twitter http://twitter.com/tonyswish and website http://tonysakich.com. My role at Augur has reduced since the end of the crowdsale but I'm still involved in the project and wanted to make everyone aware of how to contact me as much of my time is going to be diverted to other projects, so channeling the communication into a few channels make it much easier for me.

Thanks again for all of your support and interest!

Well shit.  Can't believe I missed that.  OU is right next to me lol

Really? Sad you missed it! Someone did record it and you can check it out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpugs8HM2so
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Great project!  Looks like you have a great team and the concept is fantastic - I like that it is like crowdsourcing the market and that decentralized predictions remove the possibility of manipulation and corruption.  The website looks nice and clean.  I will keep an eye on this project.

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Does anybody here in the forum know when Augur will go live?  Or, does anybody know when REPUTATION (REPS) will be offered on an exchange and what exchange we can find them offered.  Or, when the first reporting period will be for those who're already holding some Rep.  Any information one could provide would be greatly appreciated.

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Could this somehow be used as an assassination market? I certainly hope not.
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Does anybody here in the forum know when Augur will go live?  Or, does anybody know when REPUTATION (REPS) will be offered on an exchange and what exchange we can find them offered.  Or, when the first reporting period will be for those who're already holding some Rep.  Any information one could provide would be greatly appreciated.
Mostly looking for the same information. My detective work* has pin pointed the exact date as, Soon! Smiley

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Does anybody here in the forum know when Augur will go live?  Or, does anybody know when REPUTATION (REPS) will be offered on an exchange and what exchange we can find them offered.  Or, when the first reporting period will be for those who're already holding some Rep.  Any information one could provide would be greatly appreciated.

Beta should be released soon , the latest date gives was 'more than a week, less than a month' and that was 2-3 weeks ago now. Github estimates for the frontend it's about 190 hours of development, backend estimate is 160 hours of development..  The final full version will then be released some months after probably with REP being released some time soon before.
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not understand, developer raised such money and still work only 3 man wtf? And they said more than week less month, now they say else 3 week, they dont know how much time need?
want hope this is not scam and augur be a good trading market. but so many obscure, strange things

Can't wait for people like this to immediately dump into my buys.


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https://www.reddit.com/r/Augur/comments/41em3s/beta_timelines_estimates_and_issues_remaining/
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January 31, 2016, 12:01:50 AM
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84% complete (Beta):

https://github.com/AugurProject/augur/milestones

Not bad, not bad at all...

P.s. there's still time for summer olympics and presidential elections.  Wink

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YAY
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YAY
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It would be ideal if Augur REP TOKEN would be tradable before the bitcoin halving, would love to sell the bitcoin from REP when BTC gets pumped in June, should see $600-$800 time to cash out for sure.

Also, anyone notice the price REP tokens got bought up to today on Gatecoin, only 0.13 satoshi! $50+ per REP token, if it is that price on launch,there will be a lot of happy people, no doubt most of these people are already knee deep in eth and already multi millionaires.  Can see Eth going to 0.25 in next 2 weeks.


 
 
 
 
 
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Nice to watch this Smiley

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http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/augur/#markets

5 million funding - nothing new.
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Actually we just completed the backend for the beta: https://github.com/AugurProject/augur-core/milestones The beta release will be released very soon, keep an eye on our blog http://augur.net/#blog and http://twitter.com/augurproject for the latest updates.
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Great, I really hope you get to a critical user base where this could really show some results. Btw is this the same dev/team as Truthcoin?
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No it's not the same as truthcoin, but we do have someone from InTrade/Tradesports, check out the team at http://augur.net/#team
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any big big players watching augur? like google
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It's nice to see the milestone being 100% for the beta. 

Getting pretty excited about the project.  Wish I got my hands on more rep.  Sucks that you currently have to pay double the value if you want to get any more.
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wow, that's something new and interesting. Bitcoin really has brought up the issue of decentralization, thank for your efforts

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This could be a great replacement of insurance companies, instead of one player taking bets agains the combined accidents, there are numerous players taking bets against specific accidents.
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great, hope beta will be public in march

so much potential in this coin/token

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great, hope beta will be public in march

so much potential in this coin/token

pretty sure we are literally days away from beta now! Smiley
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Augur/comments/47tjhf/beta_is_testnet_do_not_send_real_ether_to_augur/
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Nice rise of price today Smiley bought some more. Big bet coming on augur

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Nice rise of price today Smiley bought some more. Big bet coming on augur

Did you buy it on the Gatecoin exchange?
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Great idea, really looking forward to it! Smiley
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Hey guys, I haven't entered yet an ETH address to the crowdsale site for getting my Augur.
What will be the smartest thing to do?
create an address on the Augur site? create one using Mist?

One is only in Beta and not so safe and by using the site's address i can lose the ability to send my Augur's to the exchanges fast




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Nice rise of price today Smiley bought some more. Big bet coming on augur

Did you buy it on the Gatecoin exchange?

For long as I know gatecoin is actually the only exchange trading btc/rep. Hope for some more exchages picking up rep. Due americans are not able to buy on gatecoin a huge market with huge amount of money is left outside.

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I have an account with 10 BTC worth of rep (500 REP) for sale, we can escrow if you are interested.

PM me or comment. Quick transation. You will be getting full account on official Augur website.

Procedure:

1. I hand account control to escrow picked from one of the escrow sites.
2. You transfer the BTC.
3. Escrow releases BTC to me and the account to you.

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I have an account with 10 BTC worth of rep (500 REP) for sale, we can escrow if you are interested.

PM me or comment. Quick transation. You will be getting full account on official Augur website.

Procedure:

1. I hand account control to escrow picked from one of the escrow sites.
2. You transfer the BTC.
3. Escrow releases BTC to me and the account to you.

rep are cheaper on gatecoin

and safer

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I have an account with 10 BTC worth of rep (500 REP) for sale, we can escrow if you are interested.

PM me or comment. Quick transation. You will be getting full account on official Augur website.

Procedure:

1. I hand account control to escrow picked from one of the escrow sites.
2. You transfer the BTC.
3. Escrow releases BTC to me and the account to you.

rep are cheaper on gatecoin

and safer

That's not true. I am selling at 0.02 price. To buy 500 ETH on Gatecoin you would pay more than 0.02 for the same amount of coins. You can check it in the charts now. And on Gatecoin your are buying token that will be exchanged to REP if the exchange sticks to it's promise and does not close before Augur launches. I am offering to sell my whole account with for price lower than on Gatecoin, through the official channels (directly through Augur) or another trusted escrow of your choice.

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I have an account with 10 BTC worth of rep (500 REP) for sale, we can escrow if you are interested.

PM me or comment. Quick transation. You will be getting full account on official Augur website.

Procedure:

1. I hand account control to escrow picked from one of the escrow sites.
2. You transfer the BTC.
3. Escrow releases BTC to me and the account to you.

rep are cheaper on gatecoin

and safer

That's not true. I am selling at 0.02 price. To buy 500 ETH on Gatecoin you would pay more than 0.02 for the same amount of coins. You can check it in the charts now. And on Gatecoin your are buying token that will be exchanged to REP if the exchange sticks to it's promise and does not close before Augur launches. I am offering to sell my whole account with for price lower than on Gatecoin, through the official channels (directly through Augur) or another trusted escrow of your choice.

No, on gatecoin they are cheaper (you can get it for 0,017), you can sell it
and gatecoin reputation is biger than yours.


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I have an account with 10 BTC worth of rep (500 REP) for sale, we can escrow if you are interested.

PM me or comment. Quick transation. You will be getting full account on official Augur website.

Procedure:

1. I hand account control to escrow picked from one of the escrow sites.
2. You transfer the BTC.
3. Escrow releases BTC to me and the account to you.

rep are cheaper on gatecoin

and safer

That's not true. I am selling at 0.02 price. To buy 500 ETH on Gatecoin you would pay more than 0.02 for the same amount of coins. You can check it in the charts now. And on Gatecoin your are buying token that will be exchanged to REP if the exchange sticks to it's promise and does not close before Augur launches. I am offering to sell my whole account with for price lower than on Gatecoin, through the official channels (directly through Augur) or another trusted escrow of your choice.

No, on gatecoin they are cheaper (you can get it for 0,017), you can sell it
and gatecoin reputation is biger than yours.



What exactly are you trying to accomplish here? Do you want me to sell the batch to you below the market price or do you simply envy that some people jumped in before you? Seriously, check your facts and look at Gatecoin's trading history and tell me exactly how long ago trade at 0.017 level occured? Actually, since we started this discussion the price went even higher and is trading over 0.02, currently at 0.215 levels and growing. My offer is valid till the price hits 0.03, then I am planning to readjust it, so if you are interested in buying just PM me.

And as for reputation - as I mentioned before, I am willing to sell through official escrow. Not sure about Gatecoin's reputation, but it definitely isn't higher than creator's of the Augurs project. You send the BTC to Augur, they transfer my account to you, they release the BTC to me. That's the procedure people have been using for some time now, it protects both buyer and seller. Only problem has been that accounts are becoming more and more expensive and it is not possible to split them, so most people are selling really insanely expensive accounts. Mine is not as big, it is worth over 10 BTC.

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I have an account with 10 BTC worth of rep (500 REP) for sale, we can escrow if you are interested.

PM me or comment. Quick transation. You will be getting full account on official Augur website.

Procedure:

1. I hand account control to escrow picked from one of the escrow sites.
2. You transfer the BTC.
3. Escrow releases BTC to me and the account to you.

rep are cheaper on gatecoin

and safer

That's not true. I am selling at 0.02 price. To buy 500 ETH on Gatecoin you would pay more than 0.02 for the same amount of coins. You can check it in the charts now. And on Gatecoin your are buying token that will be exchanged to REP if the exchange sticks to it's promise and does not close before Augur launches. I am offering to sell my whole account with for price lower than on Gatecoin, through the official channels (directly through Augur) or another trusted escrow of your choice.

No, on gatecoin they are cheaper (you can get it for 0,017), you can sell it
and gatecoin reputation is biger than yours.



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I have an account with 10 BTC worth of rep (500 REP) for sale, we can escrow if you are interested.

PM me or comment. Quick transation. You will be getting full account on official Augur website.

Procedure:

1. I hand account control to escrow picked from one of the escrow sites.
2. You transfer the BTC.
3. Escrow releases BTC to me and the account to you.

rep are cheaper on gatecoin

and safer

That's not true. I am selling at 0.02 price. To buy 500 ETH on Gatecoin you would pay more than 0.02 for the same amount of coins. You can check it in the charts now. And on Gatecoin your are buying token that will be exchanged to REP if the exchange sticks to it's promise and does not close before Augur launches. I am offering to sell my whole account with for price lower than on Gatecoin, through the official channels (directly through Augur) or another trusted escrow of your choice.

No, on gatecoin they are cheaper (you can get it for 0,017), you can sell it
and gatecoin reputation is biger than yours.



guys, I wish to recommend using PM Cheesy

Thank you, you're so kind

@john312 i see your point and imho you're legit
@tobsnn - in our replys buyers gote more information about seller, so it's help for others

With best regards, M

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Just a funny question that popped up in my mind:

Could Augur play chess (very slowly) against a grandmaster by letting people predict the best moves?

I think if it could, it would hit frontpage news.

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Just a funny question that popped up in my mind:

Could Augur play chess (very slowly) against a grandmaster by letting people predict the best moves?

I think if it could, it would hit frontpage news.

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Quick update as I didn't see it posted anywhere on this forum.

We released the Augur Beta today, you can check it out at Augur.net and our blog post with some information on the beta is at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=860629.0.

The other cool thing that happened today was our partnership with Microsoft. Augur is going to be available on Microsoft Azure's Blockchain as a Service offering, Microsoft announced this (and were cool enough to give the beta a huge plug) earlier today, check the announcement out https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/azure-blockchain-update-6/.

Finally, if anyone has issues with the beta, please just use the Feedback tab on the UI to contact us directly, this will enable us to answer any issues you may have.
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I see Augur / REP being traded on Gatecoin.

Is there any proof they really have REP to trade? Or are they just trading air? For me, the only reason not to buy REP is because of this uncertainty.

And if they have real REP, wouldn't price just crash when other exchanges add REP (and more REP hits the market) because right now there's only a small amount to trade with, making it scarce?

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I see Augur / REP being traded on Gatecoin.

Is there any proof they really have REP to trade? Or are they just trading air? For me, the only reason not to buy REP is because of this uncertainty.

And if they have real REP, wouldn't price just crash when other exchanges add REP (and more REP hits the market) because right now there's only a small amount to trade with, making it scarce?

Gatecoin has real REP as real as anyone who bought in the crowd sale, they got their "big traders" to pool their pre sales Tokens, Gatecoin is well established and highly regarded, so its safe to say they will only allow  the number of rep coins that can be acocunted for (no doubt the traders sent proof, like a screen shot of final amount).

Regarding the price, its the first DaPP on the Ethereum Blockchain, so will moon, make no mistake about that, the pumpers behind the Eth and Factom pump are well into REP.  So $10 a coin could some very cheap a few months after launch.

Also i bought 5btc worth of rep on gatecoin at $6 sold for $9 each. Its real trading, real prices.

Once rep does officially launch, Gatecoin will then officially "swap" for the released tokens.


I would simply sign up to Gatecoin and see for yourself , their customer service is second to none in crypto, but hte charts are for more advanced users.

This is my Referral link, you get $10 free trading with it >

https://gatecoin.com/register?referralCode=SDFBCT

PS: How did Augur get "ninja added" to the European Fintech Awards Voting. Its the very last day, surely against the rules to be counted now?
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Beta is out. https://augur.net/

What can I say the UI is very disappointing!
I sincerely hope this will be improved on actual release!
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Want to sell 400 REP at 0.035 rate (15 BTC). PM me. Only trustworthy escrow of your choice.

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Some think that price is going crazy but it's not. At current price 0.28 BTC per REP the marketcap is lower than Litecoin's. The ETH market cap currently is about 2M BTC and there's might be more to grow. So even 0.1 BTC per REP is not the limit.

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What we have here is just the beginning of a wonderful life changing startup business. Due to limited 11 billion reps and a future so bright noone cant even imagine price will be in tremendously higher spaces once the beta goes final. Someone might can say, a once in a lifetime chance.

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yeah still try the beta phase, but it looks good, hopefully this project could be a good project in the future, cheers

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is it already safe to import my acount with REP , or better wait and make a new account?

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What we have here is just the beginning of a wonderful life changing startup business. Due to limited 11 billion reps and a future so bright noone cant even imagine price will be in tremendously higher spaces once the beta goes final. Someone might can say, a once in a lifetime chance.
11 million not billion.

How do people store their REP? Mines on Gatecoin but I'd like to move it offline hopefully. Any help?

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What we have here is just the beginning of a wonderful life changing startup business. Due to limited 11 billion reps and a future so bright noone cant even imagine price will be in tremendously higher spaces once the beta goes final. Someone might can say, a once in a lifetime chance.
11 million not billion.

How do people store their REP? Mines on Gatecoin but I'd like to move it offline hopefully. Any help?

you are totally right. mistake in typing.

think there is no easy alternative to gatecoin right now. maybe when final goes live, or you buy a crowdsale acc over escrow.

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March 19, 2016, 04:36:49 AM
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Beta is out. https://augur.net/

What can I say the UI is very disappointing!
I sincerely hope this will be improved on actual release!


Sorry that you aren't enjoying the new UI, that's disappointing to hear as we've had positive feedback from most due to this change. The UI change was mostly due to the very slow loading of what we had during the alpha (sometimes it wouldn't load at all). The current UI has a heavy influence from former InTrade/TradeSports developer Tomas Priecinsky, although may other team members were definitely involved with the changes. I would definitely recommend using the feedback button to share your concerns as we like hearing negative opinions just as much as positive ones...of course we can't guarantee changes will be made, the feedback will be read and will be considered.
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March 19, 2016, 04:46:29 AM
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Additionally, I apologize for not staying more on top of this thread but there are a bunch of discussions about Augur going on and some get checked more than others.

Regarding Gatecoin, Augur is not in the position to endorse any exchange and that extends to Gatecoin, I will personally (as Tony Sakich, not as a representative of Augur) that Gatecoin IS the only way to purchase REP right now and I've heard positive feedback, but as an organization Augur makes no comment on this. We will say that when REP is fully released, we believe (and hope) that multiple exchanges will make it possible for individuals to participate in event reporting on the platform, until then the team is focused on the full release and highly recommend anyone interested in the project at Augur.net as well as the project's GitHub page at http://github.com/augurproject and submit feedback as it's essential to the finished product!
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March 19, 2016, 03:45:48 PM
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Additionally, I apologize for not staying more on top of this thread but there are a bunch of discussions about Augur going on and some get checked more than others.

Regarding Gatecoin, Augur is not in the position to endorse any exchange and that extends to Gatecoin, I will personally (as Tony Sakich, not as a representative of Augur) that Gatecoin IS the only way to purchase REP right now and I've heard positive feedback, but as an organization Augur makes no comment on this. We will say that when REP is fully released, we believe (and hope) that multiple exchanges will make it possible for individuals to participate in event reporting on the platform, until then the team is focused on the full release and highly recommend anyone interested in the project at Augur.net as well as the project's GitHub page at http://github.com/augurproject and submit feedback as it's essential to the finished product!


Gatecoin is not selling the actual tokens right?
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