Ugh, this thread gives me so much headache.
So many people have explained where the value comes from. Stop saying nobody has.
OK, nobody has in a manner which makes any sense to me! See the topic subject.
But you can stop trying
to explain now, I've only come back to stop my subscription to the thread because I'm bored with reading completely contradictory posts from different people with opposing ideas and being told that my questions have been answered.
If I start a thread, asking a question, forgive me for believing that I have the right to determine when it has been answered.
Anyway, everybody, especially Nesetalis
, can shut up now. Topic locked.