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November 23, 2014, 05:53:33 AM
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Mathematically, the odds are better than 98.24% on every game.

However, experience differs due to variance. Some folks have huge luck and others have the opposite; same as any other game. There are also multiple approaches to probability, and one in particular helps demonstrate why Lucky Bit in particular gives some people such a negative impression.

Consider that the odds of hitting the very edge win are 1 in 32768. Well, if you don't plan on playing 16,000 bets you can basically assume that for your instance, the odds are actually zero. They aren't, of course, and that's the fun, but when evaluating an expected return, it's a safe estimation. The same logic can actually be applied on down the outer bets: the second payout has 1 in 2048 odds so if you don't have 1,000 bets in the forecast you can safely assume you won't hit that slot. Striking the third slot from the forecast is appropriate for less than a few hundred bets, which describes most players. So what you do is calculate the game odds without the fringe wins to come up with a "reasonable expectation" for a lower number of bets, and the answer is actually quite surprising.

For blue and green, striking the outer bets impacts the expected return by less than 1%. The big impact from playing these lines comes from the bitcoin network fee on small bets.
For yellow there is a notable drop in the expected return using this method; a few hundred bets can expect more than 90% returns.
For red the drop is significant. The expected return is under 85% for less than 1,000 bets and below 50% for a dozen bets.

Let me re-iterate that. Your expected return on a dozen bets on red is less than 50%. Notice that should any of that dozen bets hit one of the outer 3 slots it's a guaranteed double-up or better, and a single x9 landing paired with any non-x0.2 hit is a profit, for that same dozen bets. The chances of either of these scenarios is actually higher than your intuition might suggest, and we didn't even include the more-common profit instances of several x2/x4 landings within a given dozen bets. But hitting all x0.2 is not uncommon either; there's a very high expected variance within those dozen bets. Variance means bigger winners and losers - and that's why the game feels harder to win than it is. Anyone that's won 30BTC probably doesn't think Lucky Bit has bad odds - it's all perception when it comes to this sort of thing, and there really isn't a mathematical model for how a game feels. Roll Eyes


when i bet red i am ready to lose 80% of 80% of my bets... the other 20%.... whoooo knows...
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November 25, 2014, 09:42:19 AM
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Mathematically, the odds are better than 98.24% on every game.

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It is just like how some players look for lower risk and prefer to play 90% bets on dice sites, while some look for higher potential profit and prefer to play 1% bets. The house edge % are the same, but the risk and return are different.

It is very likely you are going to lose most of your red bets on LB, but if you win, you could get a great profit.

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November 25, 2014, 04:50:37 PM
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you should post enough proofs before calling them scam
if you are a victim of scam by luckybit then post some proofs
don't say that you lost money there  Grin
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November 25, 2014, 05:28:08 PM
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Mathematically, the odds are better than 98.24% on every game.

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It is just like how some players look for lower risk and prefer to play 90% bets on dice sites, while some look for higher potential profit and prefer to play 1% bets. The house edge % are the same, but the risk and return are different.

It is very likely you are going to lose most of your red bets on LB, but if you win, you could get a great profit.

If you really want to play safe, why gamble?
So it is luckybit red or nothing for me.  Grin
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November 26, 2014, 01:15:22 PM
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I can say that you are almost guaranteed to lose playing there. The odds are around ~30% double your bet, 70% lose.

It's that bad.

Candystripes, your posts in this thread are borderline, it looks like voluntary FUD, and while some other FUDsters here are clearly trolling or being angry because they lost at one point, we thought you at least were a capable person when it comes to gambling and very simple odds.
Aren't you working for a competitor?

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November 26, 2014, 01:21:57 PM
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you should post enough proofs before calling them scam
if you are a victim of scam by luckybit then post some proofs
don't say that you lost money there  Grin

Correct.

Maybe you want to observe first.
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