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June 17, 2018, 01:22:15 PM
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I don't have friends and family who are suficently wealthy to turn towards. So I'm hoping I can get advice on here.

If I wanted to buy a comany at 200k with 40k profit (SaaS) currently running unattended. A 200k loan with repayment at 10% would be good, or as another option a cut of the profits(liek the merchant advances in the USA), sadly not available locally. What would you suggest?

Crypto at least means that multisigs allow for expenses to be agreed upon by all parties(albeit with volatilty issues) while Estonia allow sfor anyone anywhere to sign accoutns, and can let investors control accounts (with € in them).

If I could increase the growth rate (translation and localisation, would be a good start) then I could provide more of a cut to the othe rpartner. Since it is currnetly automatically ticking over, working on growth locally (full training provided) could allow an invesotr to make an easy return for very little effort.

I've tried locally, and grants etc. There simply isn't anything.

By running unattended, I mean the vast majority of it is automated, while your correct it can't run 100% on its own. Think 4 hours a week.or less. I wonder of anyone's here would want to buy the company for themselves  (I could be a broker and take a.cut for arranging it) In this case the escrow would be the company itself, for instance one could establish a jv (llc like) which would then own the company.

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$200k loans would be hard to find out unless if you do give out some reasonable collateral then it is possible.
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Not a loan. an investment

The investor doesn't have to be on here, but this is the one place, where I expect people mst.be working with others that are not physically close or were not initially but were.willing to move when funded.

"Better off finding someone In  your locality" That assumes there are any investors
quote author=Hamphser link=topic=4485209.msg40331130#msg40331130 date=1529264640]
$200k loans would be hard to find out unless if you do give out some reasonable collateral then it is possible.
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Not a loan. an investment.

"Better off getting an investor in your locality"

This assumes there are investors in every locality

That's simply not true, don't take my world for it.
Take a look at maps of how capital is concentrated, there are localities where there simply is no local capital and foreign investors won't invest. Now if there is one investor on here you can reach form wherever you are and zero investors in your locality. No matter how hard they at to convince, your still better off pitching to the one here simply because they exisit now this might not be the right place.for this sort of thing, but this is where I except there to be people knowledgeable in the subject. It's not to different to doing an ICO at the earliest stages. In fact if it wasn't for securities laws you could do an ICO in which the purchasers take a percent of your future profits.


It looks like Zealand is the person I need to talk to for advice. Thanks!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2940338.0

Having read Zealand's update it looks like he/she got a.forum member to fly some 1500 miles to meet him/her, they then provided a trusted point of contact for investors in their capital rich area (london)

I think there is a real chance here to build something amazing with this community and that shining example.

It could be expanded by using trusted members as escrow  (one could potentially use multisig wallets as well to track expenses and allow them the investors to have some control although this has issues with the volatile cost of crypto.
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June 17, 2018, 07:44:00 PM
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I don't have friends and family who are suficently wealthy to turn towards. So I'm hoping I can get advice on here.

If I wanted to buy a comany at 200k with 40k profit (SaaS) currently running unattended. A 200k loan with repayment at 10% would be good, or as another option a cut of the profits(liek the merchant advances in the USA), sadly not available locally. What would you suggest?

Crypto at least means that multisigs allow for expenses to be agreed upon by all parties(albeit with volatilty issues) while Estonia allow sfor anyone anywhere to sign accoutns, and can let investors control accounts (with € in them).

If I could increase the growth rate (translation and localisation, would be a good start) then I could provide more of a cut to the othe rpartner. Since it is currnetly automatically ticking over, working on growth locally (full training provided) could allow an invesotr to make an easy return for very little effort.

I've tried locally, and grants etc. There simply isn't anything.
What you mean about a company running unattended? Its really an impossible thing for it to work if theres no one handles it. $200k loans would be hard to find out unless if you do give out some reasonable collateral then its possible. Since the tone of yours would be heading on finding an investor here on cryptoworld then i would say it would be much harder than you experienced on finding people in your locality. Believe me.


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June 18, 2018, 02:54:00 PM
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I do not see exactly the activity of this company, but if there is some way to involve it to the blockchain technology, maybe an ICO would worth a try to get investors. Of course, it is quite complicated too (from engineering to marketing).

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June 18, 2018, 04:34:57 PM
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The biggest problem.with doing an ICO is.the regulation. Ideally for the investors to get a return you want to do a token or coin that gives them a return or perhaps you buy up or back the coins with profits.

Doing the ICO technically is really easy, the hard part is marketing and legally. You could do a utility token around it, but if there is no interest and no real reason for blockchain you rapidly become a shitcoin. That's not so bad for an investment token since raising investment for non blockchain companies could be a good use for crypto. A company that issued securities coins then invested in companies and then returned the profits to investors  (DAO angels on the blockchain) would be an interesting play, imho.
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June 19, 2018, 11:42:00 AM
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I agree. It also depends on your country where you want to start it. As far as I know, there are countries where the regulation is of ahead of others (for instance, in mine there is no regulation at all yet, I think the government only heard about it in mass media...). Also true, that marketing activity is a concern. I think there are lots of shitcoins out there with strong media hype and they manage to get investors. Their coins' price may rise early but then goes down quickly.

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June 19, 2018, 04:30:33 PM
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I can't decided if an unregulated country is better, or if it is worse. I can see a way to nicely do this under Irish regulation(an Irish company would issue the tokens and own a trading company sending profits back in a manner related to the tokens somehow.
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June 20, 2018, 12:12:14 PM
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Have you considered bringing this to the Dragon's Den?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLkC1aqq_6o
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June 20, 2018, 06:00:54 PM
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Have you considered bringing this to the Dragon's Den?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLkC1aqq_6o

Haven't they discontinued?
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The biggest problem.with doing an ICO is.the regulation. Ideally for the investors to get a return you want to do a token or coin that gives them a return or perhaps you buy up or back the coins with profits.

Doing the ICO technically is really easy, the hard part is marketing and legally. You could do a utility token around it, but if there is no interest and no real reason for blockchain you rapidly become a shitcoin. That's not so bad for an investment token since raising investment for non blockchain companies could be a good use for crypto. A company that issued securities coins then invested in companies and then returned the profits to investors  (DAO angels on the blockchain) would be an interesting play, imho.
Project idea or real life usage would always be the main important thing no matter which country you do decide to do ICO its either it would be a open country to crypto currencies or heavily regulated.Its up to you as long you can able to comply but things doesnt matter on that way yet it would always depend on how good the project is. When investors find out the innovation or usage itself they would just basically or willingly to approach to invest without the need of forcing or going to serious with your marketing but come to think of that marketing or exposure would always play a big role on projects success.

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August 12, 2018, 07:50:33 AM
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There Is really no project or product explicitly explained here. We are at the era where a realistic idea will be greeted with massive support. This is the essence of the blockchain technology, encouraging people with idea to come out and showcase to the world and get funded. So if your idea is clean and realistic, you just need to employ the services of some tech guys and run ico and you are good to go.
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August 12, 2018, 11:22:33 AM
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There are imho realistic ideas on here which have ico or saft/pre ICO potential, yet haven't recived funding.

I think it's more a question of marketing ability/ marketing funds than anything else.

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This is your good idea. Running the ico with planned project and raise fund for it. Moreover, there is still long way ahead. You need to do some productive activities that you had planned in your ICO. Good luck to you  Wink

There Is really no project or product explicitly explained here. We are at the era where a realistic idea will be greeted with massive support. This is the essence of the blockchain technology, encouraging people with idea to come out and showcase to the world and get funded. So if your idea is clean and realistic, you just need to employ the services of some tech guys and run ico and you are good to go.

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I would google smthng like "angel investing". In the past i had an interest in this topic . So be sure to research the platform you gonna find first. Also in any case i would suggest to have a good lawyer who would check all the contract terms.

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August 24, 2018, 04:06:29 PM
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Although there is no common regulation, not even local everywhere but I would look for trustworthy investors at least doing some KYC on them

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