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June 01, 2025, 06:55:20 PM
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Hi

I have a 12 BTC Claim in Mintpal.com (a former cryptocurrency exchange) bankruptcy as a Creditor.

1) I will provide all legal documents such as Proof-of-Debt, including in the last Annual Report and on the Creditor's Portal, the estimated time to retrieve funds is presumably 18-24 months, according to the Liquidator
2) I will provide my proof of identity
3) I will provide my contact info etc.
4) I am selling 1 BTC of this debt for 0.2 BTC (5x BTC return in presumably ~2 years).


If interested, shoot me a DM here or on Telegram https://t.me/bmcarl1994
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June 06, 2025, 07:28:27 PM
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Hi

I have a 12 BTC Claim in Mintpal.com (a former cryptocurrency exchange) bankruptcy as a Creditor.

1) I will provide all legal documents such as Proof-of-Debt, including in the last Annual Report and on the Creditor's Portal, the estimated time to retrieve funds is presumably 18-24 months, according to the Liquidator
2) I will provide my proof of identity
3) I will provide my contact info etc.
4) I am selling 1 BTC of this debt for 0.2 BTC (5x BTC return in presumably ~2 years).

If interested, shoot me a DM here or on Telegram https://t.me/bmcarl1994

Who is the Liquidator? I haven't heard of any that start a liquidation process. The only thing I know for sure is that Mintpal was shut down after the second "hack" in 2014.
Even if it's a liquidation on the move, everything that you are willingly offer is useless since all of them are either reversible or pledged to another person.
Btw, selling something that actually worth nothing isn't a trade but a scam attempt. Unless you can prove otherwise...

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June 06, 2025, 07:41:49 PM
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Hi

I have a 12 BTC Claim in Mintpal.com (a former cryptocurrency exchange) bankruptcy as a Creditor.

1) I will provide all legal documents such as Proof-of-Debt, including in the last Annual Report and on the Creditor's Portal, the estimated time to retrieve funds is presumably 18-24 months, according to the Liquidator
2) I will provide my proof of identity
3) I will provide my contact info etc.
4) I am selling 1 BTC of this debt for 0.2 BTC (5x BTC return in presumably ~2 years).

If interested, shoot me a DM here or on Telegram https://t.me/bmcarl1994

Who is the Liquidator? I haven't heard of any that start a liquidation process. The only thing I know for sure is that Mintpal was shut down after the second "hack" in 2014.
Even if it's a liquidation on the move, everything that you are willingly offer is useless since all of them are either reversible or pledged to another person.
Btw, selling something that actually worth nothing isn't a trade but a scam attempt. Unless you can prove otherwise...

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/08920347/filing-history

All Annual Reports are there, the Liquidator is Liam Short

TLDR: I found a better avenue to list it on, an auction site x-claim.com. They sort all the legal papers of transferring it to another person or entity.
TLDR: Mintpal was shut down, and years later the Liquidator found £15 million of assets, but only 100 Claimants of which I am 1. The Liquidator anticipate a dividend to all Creditors, plus statutory interest where applicable.

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4510127/
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June 08, 2025, 06:17:03 PM
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https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/08920347/filing-history

All Annual Reports are there, the Liquidator is Liam Short

TLDR: I found a better avenue to list it on, an auction site x-claim.com. They sort all the legal papers of transferring it to another person or entity.
TLDR: Mintpal was shut down, and years later the Liquidator found £15 million of assets, but only 100 Claimants of which I am 1. The Liquidator anticipate a dividend to all Creditors, plus statutory interest where applicable.

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4510127/

Good to hear that you found an alternative. Idk how much money this will cost and how much time it will take to be finished, but I guess it's worth a try.
I hope that this story will have some good closure after all for all that being scammed by this Alex Green dude.

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June 09, 2025, 01:38:25 AM
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https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/08920347/filing-history

All Annual Reports are there, the Liquidator is Liam Short

TLDR: I found a better avenue to list it on, an auction site x-claim.com. They sort all the legal papers of transferring it to another person or entity.
TLDR: Mintpal was shut down, and years later the Liquidator found £15 million of assets, but only 100 Claimants of which I am 1. The Liquidator anticipate a dividend to all Creditors, plus statutory interest where applicable.

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4510127/

Good to hear that you found an alternative. Idk how much money this will cost and how much time it will take to be finished, but I guess it's worth a try.
I hope that this story will have some good closure after all for all that being scammed by this Alex Green dude.

Thank you condoras. X-claim.com is a brokerage, they take commission from the sale. I think we're listing it this week or next. So x-claim.com has been pretty quick. If it was FTX, Celsius etc, it would've been even quicker, since they already had customers from those bankruptcies.


Yea it has been ~11 years in Liquidation, I am tired of waiting so I am selling  Tongue
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June 13, 2025, 04:25:46 PM
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Thank you condoras. X-claim.com is a brokerage, they take commission from the sale. I think we're listing it this week or next. So x-claim.com has been pretty quick. If it was FTX, Celsius etc, it would've been even quicker, since they already had customers from those bankruptcies.

Yes, I'm aware of this site and its procedures and it's indeed different if you are not the first who sell your claim from a bankruptcy. In any case, listing it in a 15-day frame, it's fast. Did they tell you how many chances you have for selling this? I mean, did they give you a percentage of success?

Yea it has been ~11 years in Liquidation, I am tired of waiting so I am selling  Tongue

And it would be more, the procedure still has a road to go, hopefully it won't be too long. Btw, it would be good to inform us how everything goes eventually. Few have a claim from this scam-theft-fraud, you name it.

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June 13, 2025, 06:27:32 PM
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Thank you condoras. X-claim.com is a brokerage, they take commission from the sale. I think we're listing it this week or next. So x-claim.com has been pretty quick. If it was FTX, Celsius etc, it would've been even quicker, since they already had customers from those bankruptcies.

Yes, I'm aware of this site and its procedures and it's indeed different if you are not the first who sell your claim from a bankruptcy. In any case, listing it in a 15-day frame, it's fast. Did they tell you how many chances you have for selling this? I mean, did they give you a percentage of success?

Yea it has been ~11 years in Liquidation, I am tired of waiting so I am selling  Tongue

And it would be more, the procedure still has a road to go, hopefully it won't be too long. Btw, it would be good to inform us how everything goes eventually. Few have a claim from this scam-theft-fraud, you name it.

Ah didn't know. They contact Buyers in their network beforehand the listing. Next, the evaluate the Estate. Then it's math for these finance guys a/k/a Buyers as to how much they are willing to pay for the debt and wait an presumably 18-24 months. It will have an fair estimate after x-claim do their due diligence.

I will update the thread, the listing is planned for next week. And the Mintpal group on telegram has only 20 members, so we are indeed very few. The amount of total Creditors in this mess according to Annual Reports is about 100 guys.
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July 04, 2025, 04:08:13 PM
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Ah didn't know. They contact Buyers in their network beforehand the listing. Next, the evaluate the Estate. Then it's math for these finance guys a/k/a Buyers as to how much they are willing to pay for the debt and wait an presumably 18-24 months. It will have an fair estimate after x-claim do their due diligence.

I will update the thread, the listing is planned for next week. And the Mintpal group on telegram has only 20 members, so we are indeed very few. The amount of total Creditors in this mess according to Annual Reports is about 100 guys.

It's been ~2 weeks since your last post regarding your claim listing. Do you have any updates on your issue? What happens with X-claim? Did they approve it or not? I'm interested to know since it's very rare to see something like that. Especially for such a low-demand claim like Mintpal.

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I have been scammed to of few cents and I missed completely this request. Not a big deal...  The guy Liam Alexander Short, seems to be the liquidator,
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4510144 This has been discussed also here on bitcointalk (I found some references).

The offer however seems to good to be true. Why you should refuse so much money? Why not just trying to get a line of credit maybe giving this as a kind of collateral and not just selling? I know that is hard selling and used as collateral... just wait its not more easy and profitable?
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July 08, 2025, 05:24:42 PM
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I have been scammed to of few cents and I missed completely this request. Not a big deal...  The guy Liam Alexander Short, seems to be the liquidator,
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4510144 This has been discussed also here on bitcointalk (I found some references).

The offer however seems to good to be true. Why you should refuse so much money? Why not just trying to get a line of credit maybe giving this as a kind of collateral and not just selling? I know that is hard selling and used as collateral... just wait its not more easy and profitable?

As OP said, even if he keeps his claim, he will have to wait almost 2 years, if not more. So, by giving it whole or even a portion of it as collateral, the lender will have to wait the same time as he. Plus, that isn't as easy as it might sound to change the credentials on a claim. On the contrary, it's a pretty fuss, thus not something that could end fast.
It's always better to keep it and wait, but life can't wait. Things can happen that can change your plans at any time.

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July 09, 2025, 05:23:36 AM
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Ah didn't know. They contact Buyers in their network beforehand the listing. Next, the evaluate the Estate. Then it's math for these finance guys a/k/a Buyers as to how much they are willing to pay for the debt and wait an presumably 18-24 months. It will have an fair estimate after x-claim do their due diligence.

I will update the thread, the listing is planned for next week. And the Mintpal group on telegram has only 20 members, so we are indeed very few. The amount of total Creditors in this mess according to Annual Reports is about 100 guys.

It's been ~2 weeks since your last post regarding your claim listing. Do you have any updates on your issue? What happens with X-claim? Did they approve it or not? I'm interested to know since it's very rare to see something like that. Especially for such a low-demand claim like Mintpal.

Yeah I message you on telegram I am rarely on this forum

We're listing it this week and the price is a bit lower, will post in this forum when listing is open.
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July 09, 2025, 05:24:55 AM
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I have been scammed to of few cents and I missed completely this request. Not a big deal...  The guy Liam Alexander Short, seems to be the liquidator,
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4510144 This has been discussed also here on bitcointalk (I found some references).

The offer however seems to good to be true. Why you should refuse so much money? Why not just trying to get a line of credit maybe giving this as a kind of collateral and not just selling? I know that is hard selling and used as collateral... just wait its not more easy and profitable?

Initial offer off-table as its being listed later this week. I get a little less than expected, $30-50k auction range, $150k valuation by X-claim.
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I have been scammed to of few cents and I missed completely this request. Not a big deal...  The guy Liam Alexander Short, seems to be the liquidator,
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4510144 This has been discussed also here on bitcointalk (I found some references).

The offer however seems to good to be true. Why you should refuse so much money? Why not just trying to get a line of credit maybe giving this as a kind of collateral and not just selling? I know that is hard selling and used as collateral... just wait its not more easy and profitable?

As OP said, even if he keeps his claim, he will have to wait almost 2 years, if not more. So, by giving it whole or even a portion of it as collateral, the lender will have to wait the same time as he. Plus, that isn't as easy as it might sound to change the credentials on a claim. On the contrary, it's a pretty fuss, thus not something that could end fast.
It's always better to keep it and wait, but life can't wait. Things can happen that can change your plans at any time.

Re: Selling the Claim: Yeah X-claim sorts that legality out for me. Re: waiting it's institutional buyers who can wait.

I agree: to quote John Maynard Keynes "in the long run we're all dead".

I got $150k valuation and its being auctioned off at $30-50k. For 12 BTC initially. SoFA analysis by X-claim. I'll take it because I retire from crypto, moving onto other things
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July 09, 2025, 05:28:24 AM
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I have been scammed to of few cents and I missed completely this request. Not a big deal...  The guy Liam Alexander Short, seems to be the liquidator,
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4510144 This has been discussed also here on bitcointalk (I found some references).

The offer however seems to good to be true. Why you should refuse so much money? Why not just trying to get a line of credit maybe giving this as a kind of collateral and not just selling? I know that is hard selling and used as collateral... just wait its not more easy and profitable?

I thought they calculate BTC debt but the Estate has sold the assets already. So it's pro-rata on the sold assets, it was valuated at. 12 btc = $150k. Ouch ouch but well.

It was naive to believe I can sell on bitcointalk because you need to be a professional. I am more informed now. Buyers need do due diligence of course before purchasing. The deal I offered is no longer available due to a misconception I had about what it was worth. Sorry about this and sorry to hear you were scammed.
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July 11, 2025, 04:57:41 PM
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I thought they calculate BTC debt but the Estate has sold the assets already. So it's pro-rata on the sold assets, it was valuated at. 12 btc = $150k. Ouch ouch but well.

It was naive to believe I can sell on bitcointalk because you need to be a professional. I am more informed now. Buyers need do due diligence of course before purchasing. The deal I offered is no longer available due to a misconception I had about what it was worth. Sorry about this and sorry to hear you were scammed.

Well, this changes a lot for the worse for you and I'm sorry to hear it. It's a bit of a shock waiting for a repayment with the current price and instead to get  x10 times lesser. But it is what it is. Btw and just for the record, if the Estate has already sold them, then why don't they give you your cut, and you have to sell your claim to another person/ entity?

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