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[junglist.massive]

Anyone of you (except gambling sites owners) is able to make permanent profit on gambling? Or It's just lucky shots when you won couple of btc and the loose it in next week?

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[FanEagle]

ask hufflepuff, he did such great profit and ran with it.

[mrdeposit]

The time it takes for me to put in the research to keep making a profit sports betting takes the fun out of it for me. So I stopped. I remember I tried selling my picks on here. I made more money from betting than selling the picks. Wasn't worth my time.

[junglist.massive]

well in my experience the best strategy is don't start. I won some nic amount of bits but if I add all my looses I think I'm on zero

[junglist.massive]

http://www.gamblersanonymous.org/

[AleCrypt0]

well in my experience the best strategy is don't start. I won some nic amount of bits but if I add all my looses I think I'm on zero

And you're lucky to be on zero, only..

I agree with you, best strategy is the non playing one. On the medium-long term run only the house gains.

That's the principle on which is funded Gambling.

[1playercom]

House always wins, but there's lots of unskilled poker pokers, so poker pros can clean up on donks.

Lines are tough to beat, the best minds set the lines.

All slots and video games are sucker plays.

In real dice games, you have guys that can move money around and kill the house once in a round on a hot table.

BJ card counters have a shot.

The rest is just giving money to the house.

Casino host 30+ years

[kantongajaib]

it,s gambling bro. 80%luck and 20%strategi.
but everyone 80% noluck 

and hufflepuff that just advertising   

[galbros]

Of course not.  As long as math is true you can't beat the house if you keep playing.  Only successful way to do it is exploit variance, get up and stop.  So no way to be a consistent winner.  Unless the site offers an invest option.

Good Luck!

[ShetKid]

I got once from 0.1 btc to 3.1 btc in like... 2-3 hours, and then lost it (the next day) within 30minutes

Its all luck my friend.

[nothingnew]

The house has an edge so you'll always lose in a long term.

[koshgel]

The house has an edge so you'll always lose in a long term.

House edge is the key.

Even gamblers with extensive game knowledge will lose long term. This doesn't include the majority of other donks that don't know game strategy and rules and throw their money at the casino.

A very small percentage make money. Otherwise, there would be no casinos.

[dooglus]

In real dice games, you have guys that can move money around and kill the house once in a round on a hot table.

What do you mean by "hot table"? The rest of what you said makes sense, but "hot table" sounds dangerously close to superstitious nonsense.

It's possible for a lucky player to win at any kind of casino game if they're lucky enough and stop playing soon enough.

Anyone of you (except gambling sites owners) is able to make permanent profit on gambling? Or It's just lucky shots when you won couple of btc and the loose it in next week?

I've been betting on dice sites for a few years and am up overall.

I've been asked before how many players won on Just-Dice and how many lost, so looked it up:

944494 accounts

915229 with zero profit

 29265 with non-zero profit

 11782 with positive profit      17483 with negative profit

    20     0.0000000x               24    -0.0000000x
    28     0.000000xx               30    -0.000000xx
    73     0.00000xxx               52    -0.00000xxx
   176     0.0000xxxx              280    -0.0000xxxx
   667     0.000xxxxx             1597    -0.000xxxxx
  1621     0.00xxxxxx             2889    -0.00xxxxxx
  3402     0.0xxxxxxx             4475    -0.0xxxxxxx
  3732     0.xxxxxxxx             4561    -0.xxxxxxxx
  1599     x.xxxxxxxx             2754    -x.xxxxxxxx
   388    xx.xxxxxxxx              717   -xx.xxxxxxxx
    69   xxx.xxxxxxxx               95  -xxx.xxxxxxxx
     7  xxxx.xxxxxxxx                9 -xxxx.xxxxxxxx

[james.lent]

Man those stats are shocking

[FanEagle]

7 people must be very happy!

[Peegasus]

I get regular btc from affiliate program in Win88 Casino. Which is great.

[LOBSTER]

I think the most winners will loose their profit one day. I made a same experience, I won a huge amount of Bitcoins (in 2012) and lost it almost a few hours later. In my opinion you can't pay your way with gamble.

[leen93]

ask hufflepuff, he did such great profit and ran with it.

he was just lucky too...

[lili song]

7 people must be very happy!

maybe 1 of 7 was a huffle puff   

House Edge you must to beat.
Beside that, you've just very very lucky

[magicmexican]

Depends on the game and how good you are. Just saying "house always wins" is kinda retarded.

[Peegasus]

Depends on the game and how good you are. Just saying "house always wins" is kinda retarded.

Ive read that guy who was a math wiz (self proclaimed) that he cracked PD and is earning big there. LOL or Cool?

[ticoti]

actually no,I win,but after that i finish losing my bitcoins

[magicmexican]

Depends on the game and how good you are. Just saying "house always wins" is kinda retarded.

Ive read that guy who was a math wiz (self proclaimed) that he cracked PD and is earning big there. LOL or Cool?

Not sure that another variation is martingale can qualify as "cracking PD". Its probably the same old "boy i sure do hope 15~ losses in a row will never come" crap.

[El Emperador]

Usually the house wins, but in my experience I have to say that in some cases you could have a better chance to win, like in sports betting ( using surebets strategies for example ).

[dooglus]

Depends on the game and how good you are. Just saying "house always wins" is kinda retarded.

Ive read that guy who was a math wiz (self proclaimed) that he cracked PD and is earning big there. LOL or Cool?

Not sure that another variation is martingale can qualify as "cracking PD". Its probably the same old "boy i sure do hope 15~ losses in a row will never come" crap.

You would be surprised.

Last night somebody found a way of winning at moneypot, by exploiting a small bug he found. He was able to cash out just before the game crashed, quite reliably. So don't be too sure that winning players are necessarily just lucky or using martingale sequences.

[vit1988]

I've been asked before how many players won on Just-Dice and how many lost, so looked it up:

wow. i'm one of 717

[Wendigo]

Usually the house wins, but in my experience I have to say that in some cases you could have a better chance to win, like in sports betting ( using surebets strategies for example ).

I don't think there are such things as sure bets to be honest 

[dooglus]

What about mining hardware that is never obsolete and always profitable; do you believe in that?

Me neither. So why do you advertise it?

[magicmexican]

Depends on the game and how good you are. Just saying "house always wins" is kinda retarded.

Ive read that guy who was a math wiz (self proclaimed) that he cracked PD and is earning big there. LOL or Cool?

Not sure that another variation is martingale can qualify as "cracking PD". Its probably the same old "boy i sure do hope 15~ losses in a row will never come" crap.

You would be surprised.

Last night somebody found a way of winning at moneypot, by exploiting a small bug he found. He was able to cash out just before the game crashed, quite reliably. So don't be too sure that winning players are necessarily just lucky or using martingale sequences.

Well obviously exploiting the bugs is the whole different area, i was talking about "legit" strategies that usually just involve adjusting the betsize or another things, sometimes even trying to exploit the "dice memory" (gambler's fallacy), etc

[dooglus]

Ive read that guy who was a math wiz (self proclaimed) that he cracked PD and is earning big there. LOL or Cool?

Not sure that another variation is martingale can qualify as "cracking PD". Its probably the same old "boy i sure do hope 15~ losses in a row will never come" crap.

You would be surprised.

Last night somebody found a way of winning at moneypot, by exploiting a small bug he found. He was able to cash out just before the game crashed, quite reliably. So don't be too sure that winning players are necessarily just lucky or using martingale sequences.

Well obviously exploiting the bugs is the whole different area, i was talking about "legit" strategies that usually just involve adjusting the betsize or another things, sometimes even trying to exploit the "dice memory" (gambler's fallacy), etc

Fair enough, but the guy you were replying to was talking about the guy who found an exploit on PD. He made over 100 max bets in a row at 49.5% and won them all...

[Bastketsrus]

Sports is the only thing that you can beat if they use multiple decks and early shuffles in black jack.

[caga]

Anyone of you (except gambling sites owners) is able to make permanent profit on gambling? Or It's just lucky shots when you won couple of btc and the loose it in next week?

Well, I have gambled a lot . I can't say that I make a permanent profit, but I have been profitable over a long time. And that for me is good, as I get the fun of gambling without having to lose any amount of moneyt.

[dooglus]

Sports is the only thing that you can beat if they use multiple decks and early shuffles in black jack.

You can win at games like poker too, where you're competing against other players and the house just takes a rake of the pot - so long as you're good enough compared to the people you're playing against of course.

Sites like gambit.com can be profitable - they have a range of skill-based player-vs-player games with low rakes.

[ShetKid]

I would recommend the site luckyb.it I think it would fit you

Its a good site, no dice included. Its for individuals who would like to get off the dice for a bit and try something new.

[Syndra]

Ask that guy who spent like -800 btc loss on primedice. I think his sn was AKcoinminer or something like that.

After seeing that guy lose I dont know what to say.

[james.lent]

Ask that guy who spent like -800 btc loss on primedice. I think his sn was AKcoinminer or something like that.

After seeing that guy lose I dont know what to say.

he was actually in positive before he crashed, if im not mistake he was more then 500btc in positive.

well thats what greed leads too. in a long run you can never outrun any casinos

[clubsofsteel]

when i gamble i win some lose some..your never truelly up if you keep gambling

[kpitti]

I am trying to play, but not to focus on permanent income. It's about luck when I play in casino. When I bet on sports it's some knowleadge as well as I am interested in some sports. This is what I like, but not for permament income 

[sherbyspark]

I would recommend the site luckyb.it I think it would fit you

Its a good site, no dice included. Its for individuals who would like to get off the dice for a bit and try something new.

Luckyb.it is certainly an innovative game, something different from dice. But I just feel it gives the casino more edge than what dice does.
You certainly win back some amount, but losing over 1% is more probable.

[coinshock]

Anyone of you (except gambling sites owners) is able to make permanent profit on gambling? Or It's just lucky shots when you won couple of btc and the loose it in next week?

This is a gambling man! Casino always wins! 

[Marcoser123321]

I don't think anyone can make a permanent profit off of gambling unless the website includes a free faucet. Gambling sites are made so that they would earn money.

[myohmy81]

Important game for luck is that 99% of money is lost like dice
But you can get enough BTC in the skills base game like sports betting,poker,binary option

[coinshock]

Important game for luck is that 99% of money is lost like dice
But you can get enough BTC in the skills base game like sports betting,poker,binary option

skills - but what with skills when you play with machine..? 

[joksim299]

Important game for luck is that 99% of money is lost like dice
But you can get enough BTC in the skills base game like sports betting,poker,binary option

skills - but what with skills when you play with machine..? 

You need to have fast fingers if you want to win on slot machines.
Skill game poker where you depend on your luck

[rammy2k2]

Anyone of you (except gambling sites owners) is able to make permanent profit on gambling? Or It's just lucky shots when you won couple of btc and the loose it in next week?

well, its gambling, u cant profit non stop 

[yoloer808]

Not by gambling, but I do believe investing in bitcoin casino bankrolls can be profitable. What happened in the past year is a huge bummer, but I am confident that new, well managed sites will be able to fill the void created after the scammers left the market. There is money to be made for both site owners and investors, we only need to work on creating trust.

[monetizator4]

I've been asked before how many players won on Just-Dice and how many lost, so looked it up:

944494 accounts

915229 with zero profit

 29265 with non-zero profit

 11782 with positive profit      17483 with negative profit

    20     0.0000000x               24    -0.0000000x
    28     0.000000xx               30    -0.000000xx
    73     0.00000xxx               52    -0.00000xxx
   176     0.0000xxxx              280    -0.0000xxxx
   667     0.000xxxxx             1597    -0.000xxxxx
  1621     0.00xxxxxx             2889    -0.00xxxxxx
  3402     0.0xxxxxxx             4475    -0.0xxxxxxx
  3732     0.xxxxxxxx             4561    -0.xxxxxxxx
  1599     x.xxxxxxxx             2754    -x.xxxxxxxx
   388    xx.xxxxxxxx              717   -xx.xxxxxxxx
    69   xxx.xxxxxxxx               95  -xxx.xxxxxxxx
     7  xxxx.xxxxxxxx                9 -xxxx.xxxxxxxx

Thank you, it's interesting statistic.
So, Loosers = approx. 1.5*Winners. I thought the multiplier is much bigger. 

[Nobitcoin]

Well as any gambler knows whatever you win you probably end up losing twice or three times that amount. My experience of gambling is not to start then you don't get hooked.

[iCECooLSNiPAH]

i am profitable in gamble )

[AllTheBitz]

I just use it to get some quick coin if I need a little extra for a purchase.

[syahrere]

i am profitable in gamble )

yeah i get profit in gambling too
especially from dice with free faucet and giveaway

[coinshock]

i am profitable in gamble )

This is because you have played as many times as you wrote posts here

[monetizator4]

i am profitable in gamble )

This is because you have played as many times as you wrote posts here

That's true. Good players have not time to write on forum.

[uki]

In real dice games, you have guys that can move money around and kill the house once in a round on a hot table.

What do you mean by "hot table"? The rest of what you said makes sense, but "hot table" sounds dangerously close to superstitious nonsense.

It's possible for a lucky player to win at any kind of casino game if they're lucky enough and stop playing soon enough.

Anyone of you (except gambling sites owners) is able to make permanent profit on gambling? Or It's just lucky shots when you won couple of btc and the loose it in next week?

I've been betting on dice sites for a few years and am up overall.

I've been asked before how many players won on Just-Dice and how many lost, so looked it up:

944494 accounts

915229 with zero profit

 29265 with non-zero profit

 11782 with positive profit      17483 with negative profit

    20     0.0000000x               24    -0.0000000x
    28     0.000000xx               30    -0.000000xx
    73     0.00000xxx               52    -0.00000xxx
   176     0.0000xxxx              280    -0.0000xxxx
   667     0.000xxxxx             1597    -0.000xxxxx
  1621     0.00xxxxxx             2889    -0.00xxxxxx
  3402     0.0xxxxxxx             4475    -0.0xxxxxxx
  3732     0.xxxxxxxx             4561    -0.xxxxxxxx
  1599     x.xxxxxxxx             2754    -x.xxxxxxxx
   388    xx.xxxxxxxx              717   -xx.xxxxxxxx
    69   xxx.xxxxxxxx               95  -xxx.xxxxxxxx
     7  xxxx.xxxxxxxx                9 -xxxx.xxxxxxxx

that pretty much sums it all. not need to add anything, just look again at these stats before playing. Unless you are running this business, it is quite clear whether to play or not. I wonder, what was the motivation of these 100+ guys who lost xxx or more BTC.

[bitcoinmining]

ask hufflepuff, he did such great profit and ran with it.

I think hufflepuff is not real, it's just a show of the site owner to attract more people like you and me

[angeloanggam]

Gamble for entertainment and not for profit.

[ranochigo]

You can get permanent profit if you are lucky and know how to stop. A lot of people profited from gambling but lost it shortly afterwards due to greed. Control is essential if you do not want to lose your profits after a lucky run.

[Sonny]

If you keep on playing over and over, you will eventually hit some bad streaks and lose your bitcoin. But if you just play for a short period of time and stop playing ever after, it is not hard to get a small profit from house.

[bitbaby]

I actually won a good amount on 2 poker sites, both of them stopped working now but it was player's money that I won and not exactly casino's. I haven't had the same luck on dice sites, it's like win one day and lose the very next.

[uki]

I actually won a good amount on 2 poker sites, both of them stopped working now but it was player's money that I won and not exactly casino's. I haven't had the same luck on dice sites, it's like win one day and lose the very next.

yep, either you have the money for playing that you can afford losing all or you don't play.