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December 15, 2016, 08:50:47 AM
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Will you add verifier for new video poker game on crypto-games.net?



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December 15, 2016, 08:52:26 AM
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Sure, probably in next few days.

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December 15, 2016, 10:32:44 AM
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Added a provably fair verifier for BitSler: https://dicesites.com/bitsler/verifier - supports all 4 games.

Thanks NLNico !

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January 05, 2017, 04:08:46 PM
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Hi,
great site.

Would've been nice to be listed on it. What are requirements for the casino?

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January 05, 2017, 09:19:47 PM
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Hi,
great site.

Would've been nice to be listed on it. What are requirements for the casino?


Hehe, every casino wants to be included there, but he seems to be mostly adding sites that are long lasting and trusted. So, be patient Smiley

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January 05, 2017, 09:34:10 PM
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It would be nice if someone would maintain an uptodate collection of dice sites, so we wouldn't have to search them on the web.
This could be dicesites.com, I like it's style and design. But it still isn't it... I haven't seen here anything new since long time.
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January 06, 2017, 07:48:16 AM
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I have been working on a new version with more sites for a long time now. I hope/expect to really finish it within some weeks now. It indeed has taken a bit too long, sorry :p .. soon Smiley

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January 07, 2017, 10:51:23 AM
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It would be nice if someone would maintain an uptodate collection of dice sites, so we wouldn't have to search them on the web.
This could be dicesites.com, I like it's style and design. But it still isn't it... I haven't seen here anything new since long time.

There is also my TheBitcoinStrip. We crawl the same stats for even more casinos.

Check out https://thebitcoinstrip.com/stats/2016-12-24-to-2017-01-07

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I have been working on a new version with more sites for a long time now. I hope/expect to really finish it within some weeks now. It indeed has taken a bit too long, sorry :p .. soon Smiley

the site is great and if you are the only one who is running it it's very impressive.


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keep it up Smiley
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It would be nice if someone would maintain an uptodate collection of dice sites, so we wouldn't have to search them on the web.
This could be dicesites.com, I like it's style and design. But it still isn't it... I haven't seen here anything new since long time.

There is also my TheBitcoinStrip. We crawl the same stats for even more casinos.

Check out https://thebitcoinstrip.com/stats/2016-12-24-to-2017-01-07

Oh, nice! Thanks for posting it, I'll check it Smiley
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January 12, 2017, 05:48:27 AM
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I like to introduce my website https://dicesites.com

On DiceSites.com there is:
- an overview of dice sites
- statistics of these websites (updated automatically every 15 mins)
- graphs to compare the websites
- provably fair verifiers for most popular dice sites
- more features later Smiley

Basically it should give you a way to compare dice sites without reading subjective reviews. And just checking out the activity of several dice sites.

Any feature requests or feedback is welcome. I personally still have a lot of ideas/plans too.

https://dicesites.com

Just one suggestion.
There are many websites which aren't listed in your website. PM me i will give you names of those

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January 12, 2017, 07:38:30 AM
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You write about provably fair https://dicesites.com/provably-fair
You mislead people because many dice sites use fake seed and have full control provably fair system, they can make to lose easy.. and players lost all money.
playing on dice - result is one - lost all money

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January 12, 2017, 07:44:17 AM
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You write about provably fair https://dicesites.com/provably-fair
You mislead people because many dice sites use fake seed and have full control provably fair system, they can make to lose easy.. and players lost all money.
playing on dice - result is one - lost all money


Would you mind to prove that there are many dice sites using fake seed? Saying is easy but without proper proof then it is useless. You said this just because NLNico have a proof that your game is not provably fair, then you try to misslead people about provably fair system.

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You write about provably fair https://dicesites.com/provably-fair
You mislead people because many dice sites use fake seed and have full control provably fair system, they can make to lose easy.. and players lost all money.
playing on dice - result is one - lost all money


Would you mind to prove that there are many dice sites using fake seed? Saying is easy but without proper proof then it is useless. You said this just because NLNico have a proof that your game is not provably fair, then you try to misslead people about provably fair system.

no, NLNico said about my game, but not said about provably faid system of dice.
notice: I do not blame dice sites.

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January 12, 2017, 07:54:48 AM
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The whole idea of the provably fair method that dice sites use, is that you get a HASH of the serverseed BEFORE you bet. Therefor you can verify (= provable) if that hash is still the same after the serverseed is revealed.

If the site changes the seed (what you call "fake seed"), the player is able to detect this, because the HASH would be different. Therefor he can prove that he was cheated (or if he was not cheated.) This is provably fair.




On your game, there is no way for the player to know if that specific timestamp is correct. Therefor that is not provably fair.



PS, you look more idiotic with every post you make, so I don't think this is helping much for your reputation as a gambling site owner.

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The whole idea of the provably fair method that dice sites use, is that you get a HASH of the serverseed BEFORE you bet. Therefor you can verify (= provable) if that hash is still the same after the serverseed is revealed.

If the site changes the seed (what you call "fake seed"), the player is able to detect this, because the HASH would be different. Therefor he can prove that he was cheated (or if he was not cheated.) This is provably fair.




On your game, there is no way for the player to know if that specific timestamp is correct. Therefor that is not provably fair.



PS, you look more idiotic with every post you make, so I don't think this is helping much for your reputation as a gambling site owner.

Really? Yes, hash before bet but he use another string and will be equal! But result will be different..

In fact, this effect is achieved through quick search methods for collision hash functions developed in 2004-2006. If one does not know the collision are two different sets of data having the same hash value. So, in 2004, a group of Chinese researchers developed an algorithm based on differential cryptanalysis, which allows for a relatively short time to find two different random data block size of 128 bytes each, having the same md5 sum. Although this algorithm at one time produced the effect of a bomb of his performance left much to be desired. But already in 2006 Czech cryptographer Vlastimil Klima offered to search for a new collision method to find a couple of different random 128 byte blocks one md5 sum of a personal computer less than a minute.

it's possible for md5, sha256, sha512

sorry for bad english Smiley

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January 12, 2017, 08:57:17 AM
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That's called "hash collisions". Dice sites always use SHA-2 to hash their serverseeds. SHA-2 has no known hash collisions.

Note: if it were that easy to make collision attacks on SHA-2, dice sites would be the least of your worries. Governments, bitcoin, the Internet, banks, etc. would all have a huge problem.



edit: you are talking about MD5. Dice sites do not and should never use MD5 indeed.

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I really like your site, but the design could be improved a bit :/ The basic bootstrap it's just like meh..
Anyway, keep it up. You could easily put paid ads on your site after you reach a given views/day.
cheers.
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That's called "hash collisions". Dice sites always use SHA-2 to hash their serverseeds. SHA-2 has no known hash collisions.

Note: if it were that easy to make collision attacks on SHA-2, dice sites would be the least of your worries. Governments, bitcoin, the Internet, banks, etc. would all have a huge problem.



edit: you are talking about MD5. Dice sites do not and should never use MD5 indeed.

you can find for sha-256 and 512

Good luck to your site.

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