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December 02, 2014, 11:09:44 PM
Last edit: December 03, 2014, 01:04:25 AM by Wardrick
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I've noticed a lot of new accounts that have only been posting on Shdvb's thread for months, saying how good his service is. I found this weird that the only place they post is on his thread. They give him feedback all the time too. He could be doing this to make his service look more popular and keep it at the top by faking trades and feedback. The site he comes from has a reputation for the large sellers hiring people to fake feedback and vouches and post on their threads to keep them at the top to get more sales and have an unfair advantage over the others.

Here's one of the accounts - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355653;sa=showPosts;start=20


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December 02, 2014, 11:15:33 PM
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Yeah man, I noticed that too (well since you pointed it out). Seems a bit fishy.

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December 02, 2014, 11:25:39 PM
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If the accounts are only posting on his threads and they are alts of him then he is effectively getting bumps that he should not get (assuming they post more then once per day).

I also notice that most of his feedback is from people who report risking bitcoin (meaning they sent first) but I don't see any indication of him sending feedback to any kind of escrow services (implying that escrow was not used). I would somewhat doubt that that many people would be willing to send first with him without escrow - his trust level is not that high.
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December 03, 2014, 12:29:45 AM
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Yeah I'm pretty skeptical that they're real people. What I think he did was started his thread and waited a little while so it looked legit and nobody questioned if he was giving himself feedback and posting on his own thread. Then, he made a bunch of new accounts to bump his thread and leave himself feedback to keep his thread on the front page and make his service look more popular. If anyone can prove/disprove this that would be great. Maybe getting btctrader to post the transactions would do this.

Here's another account with only posts on his service thread. He just posted on it too, must not of seen this thread. - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=358982;sa=showPosts
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December 03, 2014, 07:15:04 AM
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Well spotted. The following users have done pretty much nothing but post vouches for him in his selling thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355653
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=358982
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=68535
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=87632

And those are just from the last page or two.

There's also quite a lot of vouches from other newb accounts with just 1-3 posts on his thread that look very suspicious:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=359044

I think it's pretty obvious that they are his alt accounts and he's using them to bump up his thread and pad his feedback. If you go through most of the vouches in his selling and rep thread (which he sermingly loves posting/bragging about) they're all largely from the same people who pretty much exclusively post in his there. Now, the question is he doing this merely just to build up his businesss or building up for a longcon? Regardless, this is shady and untrustworthy behaviour.


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December 03, 2014, 07:25:02 AM
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I think it's pretty obvious that they are his alt accounts and he's using them to bump up his thread and pad his feedback. If you go through most of the vouches in his selling and rep thread (which he sermingly loves posting/bragging about) they're all largely from the same people who pretty much exclusively post in his there. Now, the question is he doing this merely just to build up his businesss or building up for a longcon? Regardless, this is shady and untrustworthy behaviour.
What he is doing (assuming the allegations are true - it is theoretically possible, but unlikely that a lot of newbies are happening to be doing business with him and are not otherwise active on the forum) would generally make any claims of him scamming less credible so he could potentially scam multiple times even if they publicly accuse him of scamming. All of his vouches would make others hesitant to "cry" scam in the first place.   

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December 03, 2014, 08:35:14 AM
Last edit: December 03, 2014, 08:45:44 AM by Bitcoins101
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A lot of people don't really bother making posts on forums. However, they may still be interested in purchasing bitcoin, so they'll check out the services of someone who advertises himself constantly, like Shdvb. I bet Shdvb tells buyers to leave a vouch for him after their purchase, so the result is a bunch of newbies leaving vouches.

Having customers post in his thread after every transaction may just be another segment of his extremely spammy way of doing business. Of course, that's not to say they aren't alts.

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December 03, 2014, 08:50:17 AM
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Very nice investigation work !

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December 03, 2014, 08:53:19 AM
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A lot of people don't really bother making posts on forums. However, they may still be interested in purchasing bitcoin, so they'll check out the services of someone who advertises himself constantly, like Shdvb. I bet Shdvb tells buyers to leave a vouch for him after their purchase, so the result is a bunch of newbies leaving vouches.

Having customers post in his thread after every transaction may just be another segment of his extremely spammy way of doing business. Of course, that's not to say they aren't alts.

If they're not interested in posting on forums then they would unlikey be interested in leaving a post everytime they traded as well. I'm sure he does request that genuine users leave feedback as well and there's nothing wrong with that, but when you've got several accounts that have done nothing but tell everyone that they've done yet another trade with the guy one after the other day after day it's very suspicious.

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December 03, 2014, 09:17:40 AM
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A lot of people don't really bother making posts on forums. However, they may still be interested in purchasing bitcoin, so they'll check out the services of someone who advertises himself constantly, like Shdvb. I bet Shdvb tells buyers to leave a vouch for him after their purchase, so the result is a bunch of newbies leaving vouches.

Having customers post in his thread after every transaction may just be another segment of his extremely spammy way of doing business. Of course, that's not to say they aren't alts.

If they're not interested in posting on forums then they would unlikey be interested in leaving a post everytime they traded as well. I'm sure he does request that genuine users leave feedback as well and there's nothing wrong with that, but when you've got several accounts that have done nothing but tell everyone that they've done yet another trade with the guy one after the other day after day it's very suspicious.
I don't think they're volunteering offhand, but I'm sure he makes sure everyone who does a deal with him goes the whole nine yards with vouches, posts, trust, etc. He's requesting that his customers post in his thread - they're obviously not just doing it randomly. It doesn't seem out of character for him to do this with every customer to get his thread bumped.

I'd like to see him explain himself.

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December 03, 2014, 09:21:33 AM
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I've requested that he addresses the concerns made in this thread and asked for transaction IDs and proof of payments via skrill etc. If they are legit he should be able to do this with no problem or excuses and I doubt if they are fabricated he would've gone to the trouble of covering his tracks like this.

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December 03, 2014, 11:33:57 AM
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I've requested that he addresses the concerns made in this thread and asked for transaction IDs and proof of payments via skrill etc. If they are legit he should be able to do this with no problem or excuses and I doubt if they are fabricated he would've gone to the trouble of covering his tracks like this.

If he's able to provide proof, that'd be impressive. He was probably just building trust so that he would be able to scam others in the future; there's also the possibility that he just wanted to make himself seem credible so as to attract more business without the intention of scamming. Don't think he's trying to build up for a long scam



 

 

 

 

 

 


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December 03, 2014, 12:17:43 PM
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It will be impressive and I'll be very surprised if he can provide sufficient proof. He just PMd me this:

Just see your post,I've dealt them a lot not fake accs.I have no time and no need to hire them ,but people\s doubt can be unstandable.

Do you just need TX ID or need TXID and Skrill and chat history?

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I asked him to post all proof publicly in this thread. I've also asked BadBear to check the accounts so it should be cleared up soon enough. 

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So what would happen if it is fake feedback? Banhammer? It seems he's had quite a few successful transactions with other members of the forum as well, that are very unlikely to be his other accounts haha



 

 

 

 

 

 


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So what would happen if it is fake feedback? Banhammer? It seems he's had quite a few successful transactions with other members of the forum as well, that are very unlikely to be his other accounts haha

If those accounts are really his alts, he would have been bumping his thread way too often as the current rule is you can't bump a thread more than once every 24 hours. I believe he could be banned for that reason.

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So what would happen if it is fake feedback? Banhammer? It seems he's had quite a few successful transactions with other members of the forum as well, that are very unlikely to be his other accounts haha

If those accounts are really his alts, he would have been bumping his thread way too often as the current rule is you can't bump a thread more than once every 24 hours. I believe he could be banned for that reason.

That would be the only rationale for his ban? There's gotta be something against false self-promotion...



 

 

 

 

 

 


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December 03, 2014, 12:46:08 PM
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So what would happen if it is fake feedback? Banhammer? It seems he's had quite a few successful transactions with other members of the forum as well, that are very unlikely to be his other accounts haha

Well he could get banned for reasons stated above but he's more likely to just recieve a lot of negative feedback from the community. Having lots of trades with other members isn't the point and we're not disputing that, but it's potentially all the other suspicious/fake feedback. Maybe he only managed to do all those genuine trades because they (and potentially future others) were duped into trading with him because of all his feedback.

That would be the only rationale for his ban? There's gotta be something against false self-promotion...

Trust abuse maybe, but he's still likely just to get severely negbombed which will be as good as a ban for his business.

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December 03, 2014, 01:23:31 PM
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Good doubt ,I could understand but no fakes.I've personally explained the recent 3-4 transactions which the Staff member quoted on my thread:

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Good doubt ,I could understand but no fakes.I've personally explained the recent 3-4 transactions which the Staff member quoted on my thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583572.600

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Thanks for posting, does anyone see anything out of line? All I see is that the MoneyBookers account names are American and Italian/French and one of the BTC addresses is in Chinese, where Shdvb lives. I also see that BTCTrader (I'm guessing you know this guy personally?) and Chadwicksr have BTC addresses without any other transactions in them, where Salmon, the only one I suspected was real, has an old address. I guess this isn't out of the ordinary though.


It looks like everything checks out though. I guess it's just extremely odd. I've never seen someone make an account just to post on one thread, especially for four or five months. I know r2pleasent and Alex2012 (and a lot of other people), your competition on the other site, have been temporarily banned for using fake accounts and hiring people to bump their thread up and leave them vouches. I obviously know you know how everything works because I've traded with you a lot before, which is the reason I'm skeptical here. I know you complete a high volume of trades you and you're always looking for the most effective ways to get more customers and beat the competition, even if that means taking an unfair and questionable route to get there. Like knowingly receiving stolen goods, when that large trader was banned as an example and you got off without punishment, you're not scamming but the methods you use to get more business would be considered unethical or unfair by some people.
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December 04, 2014, 12:30:17 AM
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Do not spread roumour,I never hired anyone to bump and I never got banned on other forums.Whats wrong with you Wardrick,you can also let all your customers post vouches on your thread and vouch for you after you dealed with them.I dont think this is against forum rules(If it is,let a mod or admin post here,I wont do again).If not ill keep doing to make myself and this community active.


PS: @Wardrick: Btctrader56 and chadwicksr use different address everytime while Salmon use the same one address everytime.
AS for English or Chinese address,I could make any address to any country language if you want.Just my default address is Chinese,I click and link on thread,or I can just got to blockchain and paste the address and get an English one.Also I can choose any country to make any country language one.

Your doubt is okay and good.I could also understand that,but dont post anything against me if you dont know the truth.Like I never hired anyone to bump for me and I never used fake accounts or got temp banned on other forums.


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Do not spread roumour,I never hired anyone to bump and I never got banned on other forums.Whats wrong with you Wardrick,you can also let all your customers post vouches on your thread and vouch for you after you dealed with them.I dont think this is against forum rules(If it is,let a mod or admin post here,I wont do again).If not ill keep doing to make myself and this community active.


PS: @Wardrick: Btctrader56 and chadwicksr use different address everytime while Salmon use the same one address everytime.
AS for English or Chinese address,I could make any address to any country language if you want.Just my default address is Chinese,I click and link on thread,or I can just got to blockchain and paste the address and get an English one.Also I can choose any country to make any country language one.

Your doubt is okay and good.I could also understand that,but dont post anything against me if you dont know the truth.Like I never hired anyone to bump for me and I never used fake accounts or got temp banned on other forums.


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That doesn't address anything I said, I never said you got banned. Also it's pretty obvious they do or else they would of had multiple transactions on the ones you posted. I'm saying Salmon is the only member that I thought was legit and coincidently he's the only one with a used address, that doesn't mean I'm right. It's not against the rules to post feedback on your thread, although people probably think it's incredibly spammy and annoying to have brand new accounts spamming your thread without posting anywhere else, but it's not against the rules. What is is creating alt accounts to give yourself feedback and bump your thread which is what it looked like, and what a majority of people do from the site you come from. That doesn't mean you do it, just that a large % of the people on the site you're on do it. Anyway, I'm glad to see you aren'r creating alt accounts. I'm still skeptical that you don't know these people on a closer level or that there's more behind this, but that's just my opinion.
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I feel I should speak out about this as my name is being used.

I agree it could look bad, but I joined not long ago to buy BTC. Contacted Shdvb first and never needed to use anyone else.
Never been much of an active user on any forum.

I come here for the marketplace. I’m happy to help Shdvb with feedback. I see it like ebay feedback. He gets his post bumped and a +1. I get my BTC. We've built up trust together which could help me trade with others should I need to and same for him. I prefer this forum over LBC any day. So it’s in my interests that he does well.

As for single transactions. Yes it’s a privacy move with good reason now. Thought everybody did this.
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@Wardrick: I just read chadwicksr posted,I think he has explained everything.People found me and can deal everytime and get BTC,they dont need to be active anymore on other sections and from what I have traded with,they are glad to give me a vouch plus a +1 feedback.As for newbie accounts posted so many feedback/vouches on thread makes it looks like spammy. I could say as long as its not useless or meaningless post,it is not spam.Maybe it is 'spammy' for you but this is business on a forum.If you were me and can also get those customer,I think you could do this as well to make your thread more popular and thus gain more sales.

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I feel I should speak out about this as my name is being used.

I agree it could look bad, but I joined not long ago to buy BTC. Contacted Shdvb first and never needed to use anyone else.
Never been much of an active user on any forum.

I come here for the marketplace. I’m happy to help Shdvb with feedback. I see it like ebay feedback. He gets his post bumped and a +1. I get my BTC. We've built up trust together which could help me trade with others should I need to and same for him. I prefer this forum over LBC any day. So it’s in my interests that he does well.

As for single transactions. Yes it’s a privacy move with good reason now. Thought everybody did this.

Did you ever communicate with Shdvb via PM to initiate the transaction? If so would you be able to allow a trusted member (maybe tomatocage) to temporarily access your account to confirm that there are PM messages made at times similar to when you posted feedback?

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@wunkbone : Not everyone talk via PM to initiate transactions.Chadwicksr talked to me for months,months ago I give him my skype and right now we talk via  skype.I could screenshare you all conversations history.

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@wunkbone : Not everyone talk via PM to initiate transactions.Chadwicksr talked to me for months,months ago I give him my skype and right now we talk via  skype.I could screenshare you all conversations history.
That is fair enough. I was trying to think of a way to prove with very few potential doubts the trades actually took place.

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@wunkbone : Not everyone talk via PM to initiate transactions.Chadwicksr talked to me for months,months ago I give him my skype and right now we talk via  skype.I could screenshare you all conversations history.
That is fair enough. I was trying to think of a way to prove with very few potential doubts the trades actually took place.

Could still post Skype logs, as those don't get deleted.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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@wunkbone : Not everyone talk via PM to initiate transactions.Chadwicksr talked to me for months,months ago I give him my skype and right now we talk via  skype.I could screenshare you all conversations history.
That is fair enough. I was trying to think of a way to prove with very few potential doubts the trades actually took place.

Could still post Skype logs, as those don't get deleted.
He posted screenshots but they could potentially be faked (I am not trying to accuse anyone of anything, but am trying to find a way to prove for 100% sure the trades took place).

One thing he could potentially do is sign a message from an address funds were sent from to prove he did not just find a random TX that matched the amount in question. Although it would be understandable if he cannot because many people will disregard a private key once it has been used once

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@wunkbone: If forum staff and admin requires ,I could screenshare all conversation history on skype screenshare .

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To be honest, I don't really care; even if he did it to get others to trust him, he didn't scam anyone, so I personally don't mind. It can be difficult to establish trust. But that's just my opinion.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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The reason I doubt Shdvb's legitimacy in these trades is because he's been involved in sketchy activities in the past to increase his business and gain more customers. He's been around awhile so he knows everything there is to manipulating the trade system to his favor. Whether it's legal or illegal, it'd be considered unethical and immoral by most people. One of the cases was this here (http://www.sythe.org/sythe-org-news/1641339-accepting-stolen-gold-against-rules-schedule-punishments.html) where this rule was specifically made for traders like shdvb. Shdvb and other traders went unpunished because it was so prevalent with the Chinese gold sellers that banning them all would hurt the site because they make up probably 90% of the MMORPG trading market. This also included other sellers. The traders participated in mass money laundering effectively helping the scammers cash out $1,000,000's. The MMORPG scene is heavily involved in the black market because scammers, hackers, and carders are able to use the virtual currency to exchange into real currency in mass amounts with traders like shdvb. It's also an easy target because the general age group is teenagers. Just a little back story on what shdvb has participated in. When this problem was being addressed, I doubted the Chinese MMORPG exchangers (and any other exchangers) and their workers (For the ones who had them) would listen as this was their primary source of income. Only after several bans of people who exchanged upwards of millions of dollars, the message was finally heard and traders like shdvb tightened up their trading procedures in fear of losing their main source of income. They still knowingly accept mass amounts of stolen goods and convert them to fiat for the scammers to cash out, but they make sure that nothing ties back to them knowing that it was stolen property. In turn, it shows that these massive exchangers are good at covering things up and not letting anything tie back to them that would ultimately destroy their main source of income.

Now if you've seen what I've seen you too would be skeptical of shdvb's large amount of feedback and posts to his service thread from inactive and new members. I wouldn't doubt that shdvb is telling the truth, but with the backstory you might think twice before saying your 100% positive that he's being truthful.
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December 04, 2014, 05:39:16 AM
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I obviously know you know how everything works because I've traded with you a lot before, which is the reason I'm skeptical here. I know you complete a high volume of trades you and you're always looking for the most effective ways to get more customers and beat the competition, even if that means taking an unfair and questionable route to get there. Like knowingly receiving stolen goods, when that large trader was banned as an example and you got off without punishment, you're not scamming but the methods you use to get more business would be considered unethical or unfair by some people.

Wardrick, are you and shdvb competitors? I think a full disclosure might be useful here.


It will be impressive and I'll be very surprised if he can provide sufficient proof. He just PMd me this:

Just see your post,I've dealt them a lot not fake accs.I have no time and no need to hire them ,but people\s doubt can be unstandable.

Do you just need TX ID or need TXID and Skrill and chat history?

also you need a screenshot or you need to watch on skype screenshare/join.me?


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I asked him to post all proof publicly in this thread. I've also asked BadBear to check the accounts so it should be cleared up soon enough. 

hilariousandco, he is offering you Skype screen sharing to verify some of his deals. Why don't you take him up on it? Just go through several months worth of tx and cross ref with his forum vouches.
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I obviously know you know how everything works because I've traded with you a lot before, which is the reason I'm skeptical here. I know you complete a high volume of trades you and you're always looking for the most effective ways to get more customers and beat the competition, even if that means taking an unfair and questionable route to get there. Like knowingly receiving stolen goods, when that large trader was banned as an example and you got off without punishment, you're not scamming but the methods you use to get more business would be considered unethical or unfair by some people.

Wardrick, are you and shdvb competitors? I think a full disclosure might be useful here.


It will be impressive and I'll be very surprised if he can provide sufficient proof. He just PMd me this:

Just see your post,I've dealt them a lot not fake accs.I have no time and no need to hire them ,but people\s doubt can be unstandable.

Do you just need TX ID or need TXID and Skrill and chat history?

also you need a screenshot or you need to watch on skype screenshare/join.me?


Regards
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I asked him to post all proof publicly in this thread. I've also asked BadBear to check the accounts so it should be cleared up soon enough.

hilariousandco, he is offering you Skype screen sharing to verify some of his deals. Why don't you take him up on it? Just go through several months worth of tx and cross ref with his forum vouches.

No, I only exchange to get BTC and to get rid of any of the extra I have that I don't need. I just recently bumped up my exchange thread and I messaged Tomatocage awhile ago about this. He's already shown proof of the transactions so there's not much else to do.
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December 04, 2014, 06:21:55 AM
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The reason I doubt Shdvb's legitimacy in these trades is because he's been involved in sketchy activities in the past to increase his business and gain more customers. He's been around awhile so he knows everything there is to manipulating the trade system to his favor. Whether it's legal or illegal, it'd be considered unethical and immoral by most people. One of the cases was this here (http://www.sythe.org/sythe-org-news/1641339-accepting-stolen-gold-against-rules-schedule-punishments.html) where this rule was specifically made for traders like shdvb. Shdvb and other traders went unpunished because it was so prevalent with the Chinese gold sellers that banning them all would hurt the site because they make up probably 90% of the MMORPG trading market. This also included other sellers. The traders participated in mass money laundering effectively helping the scammers cash out $1,000,000's. The MMORPG scene is heavily involved in the black market because scammers, hackers, and carders are able to use the virtual currency to exchange into real currency in mass amounts with traders like shdvb. It's also an easy target because the general age group is teenagers. Just a little back story on what shdvb has participated in. When this problem was being addressed, I doubted the Chinese MMORPG exchangers (and any other exchangers) and their workers (For the ones who had them) would listen as this was their primary source of income. Only after several bans of people who exchanged upwards of millions of dollars, the message was finally heard and traders like shdvb tightened up their trading procedures in fear of losing their main source of income. They still knowingly accept mass amounts of stolen goods and convert them to fiat for the scammers to cash out, but they make sure that nothing ties back to them knowing that it was stolen property. In turn, it shows that these massive exchangers are good at covering things up and not letting anything tie back to them that would ultimately destroy their main source of income.

Now if you've seen what I've seen you too would be skeptical of shdvb's large amount of feedback and posts to his service thread from inactive and new members. I wouldn't doubt that shdvb is telling the truth, but with the backstory you might think twice before saying your 100% positive that he's being truthful.

Your post shows a problem is people who accept stolen golds/money make up this market.Well I could tell you that if any sellers like me who knows the customer's gold/money is stolen,he wont accept it at all. Since its online trades,its very easily to get money reversed in some cases.Everytime I do accept money from people who pays me Skrill I need to check his funds source on screenshare /join.me to check his source and call to confirm the payer's Identity.Just my feedback grow fast doesn means I will too much stolen money.I never accept stolen money,if I want I could just go to silkroad to open a thread to make more bigger moeny to help those guys who do money lundering lol.

Obviously I dont do that.

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December 04, 2014, 07:16:02 PM
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I am one of shdvb's VERY happy customers, although I haven't actually bought from him in a couple of months. The fact is he gives a fast, efficient service and is welcoming to newbies. Then, when you have finished the trade he asks you to leave a vouch in his thread and offers a bonus on your next trade for doing so (or at least used to). There is nothing going on scam-wise there, he is just running a great exchange business.

I would be happy for someone trusted to check the PM's between myself and him from a few months ago.
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If you're looking for somebody that doesn't have a newbie account and who has done thousands of USD worth of business with shdvb, here I am.

I am not rewarded for posting feedback, but always felt I could help forum members out by drawing attention to a guy who will do a great/fast exchange and never leave you feeling worried.  He has his own web site and is a huge virtual currency retailer (WoW, RuneScape, etc...)  He seems to be making extra income from selling VC as far as I can tell... why would he scam anyone when he can make a decent commission doing honest trades?

Realize that any trader will need to vary commission rates based on payment type (MoneyPak versus Western Union, etc...)  simply risk versus reward...

But back on topic.... take a microscope to my account and you'll see that my interest lies in BTC and alts.  I've bought plenty of BTC from shdvb, I look for good deals on trades and buy at acceptable rates from various forum members.

Take a small amount of money and ship it to him, you'll get BTC  Smiley

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If people spent a quarter of the time on actual proven scammers as they do searching for scammers and being social justice warriors, scamming would be nearly eradicated here by now.
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If people spent a quarter of the time on actual proven scammers as they do searching for scammers and being social justice warriors, scamming would be nearly eradicated here by now.

I'm not accusing him of scamming, the majority of people posting missed the point. The people posting about successful trades doesn't change the fact he could be hiring people or having people he knows personally vouch for him to make his thread larger and increase his business. Like half of the people do on the site that this guy comes from.
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If people spent a quarter of the time on actual proven scammers as they do searching for scammers and being social justice warriors, scamming would be nearly eradicated here by now.

I'm not accusing him of scamming, the majority of people posting missed the point. The people posting about successful trades doesn't change the fact he could be hiring people or having people he knows personally vouch for him to make his thread larger and increase his business. Like half of the people do on the site that this guy comes from.
No you are missing the point. He might also be innocent. You made your notifications, you just seem to be harping on it now as if you expect someone to do something about it. If you spent even a small portion of that time you spend deeply searching for scammers, actually looking into proven scammers, there would be a lot fewer scammers on this forum, but IMO you enjoy being a "justice warrior" because it is a boost to your ego, at the expense of your targets who may or may not make technical infractions. In summation you are a "busybody" who should refocus their efforts if you actually intend to improve this community. Picking random people out of a hat and pointing out they looks suspicious over and over doesn't really do anything other than document your suspicion. If you really want to serve this community, use that busybody energy researching actual proven scammers. What you are doing currently really serves no one but yourself.
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I don't know about others but I did 4 to 5 trade with him and all went fine. There were no single delay and problem With the transections.

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Considering the fact that the staff members haven't posted in this thread for almost three weeks now, I'd say the matter was resolved.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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Does anyone find it suspicious that there is still constant newbie accounts posting on shdvb's thread and giving him feedback? Some of the new accounts created are still only posting in his thread.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583572.980

Example: This account has only posted in SHDVB's thread and finishes a lot of his messages with "regards" - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=463790;sa=showPosts

SHDVB finishes a lot of his messages with "regards" too

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There are a lot of people who sign their PM's with "regards" and I would find it conceivable that people would sign messages in similar ways.

The tl;dr way to protect yourself from possible fake feedback is to only accept feedback from people you trust, and if your trading partner does not have enough of that then use escrow
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There are a lot of people who sign their PM's with "regards" and I would find it conceivable that people would sign messages in similar ways.

The tl;dr way to protect yourself from possible fake feedback is to only accept feedback from people you trust, and if your trading partner does not have enough of that then use escrow

Given all the previous evidence provided, all the users posts are in shdvb's thread (probably signed the messaged out of habit and didn't realize it possibly because he's been doing it so long), and the fact that this has been an ongoing thing for awhile, I'd lean more to the fact that shdvb is manipulating the trust and bump features to make his services look more popular than they actually are. This was a major problem from the previous sites he has been on.
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