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March 29, 2016, 12:33:58 AM
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Because that's not what I was paid for. If you'd like to front the money, I could build those things too. Although I'll admit right here that those things you ask for are not my specialty so they may not be built to the highest standards. Web Applications though, is what I've spent my entire career on. So while you ask why I don't write those things, you might as well ask an Electrician why he didn't build his own electrical grid for your house to be on while he was wiring up your house. Do you understand the gravity of your question now?

Trolling aside, if you're more concerned about the why. Then I'll leave you with this. When this forum is done, it will be bitcoin that built this forum. That's point 1. Point 2 and probably more of interest to theymos, the forum software that is already out there did not meet the requirements that theymos wanted. The key reason being that he wanted more control over what could be done to the internals of the forum. This approach allows him to build specific tools that are not found in other forums tailored to the needs of this community. Some of these tools are more comprehensive moderation tools, more expansive reporting tools, and more precise banning tools to deal with spammers and scammers.

To be fair, he did have a number of these tools that he wrote himself. We've just rolled them into the new forum so they act and feel as if they are a part of the software and not just an after thought or mod.

You also missed one more thing. The fact that we're building this from the ground up means that the community can have an active hand in the building of this project. I've already listened to those that are helpful and integrated some of their ideas into the forum. Things that the current version of this forum does not support (spoiler tags for one, highlighting admin/mods for another).

With that said, it's all been paid for already. Why not help make the forum better than all the rest by giving it a try when the next beta comes back up and giving some constructive feedback?

Also, the reason why there are so many "other" forum software is because there is more than one way to use a forum, and often times more than one use case that determines how that particular software is going to be built. This is a use case for the bitcoin community. To go back to the house analogy, it's like having a say in the blueprint as you are building your house. Do you want higher ceilings? A marble staircase? French doors? You can make those suggestions and if they are within reason, we can just build it.

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March 29, 2016, 01:03:36 AM
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>When this forum is done, it will be bitcoin that built this forum.
*If. If this forum is done.

In the meantime, I'll point fingers and say
"bitcointalk software hasn't been updated for SEVEN FUCKING YEARS, which would have been trivial to do & cost exactly 0 dollars and zero zero cents, if not for a brilliant Thermos cobbling himself some super secret special tools he felt he really needed to haz.

But hey, due to the magic of blogchain technology, he found an excellent solution: He just paid TWO-AND-A-HALF MILLION FUCKING DOLLARS to Anon going by "Wangbus," who was recommended to him by another anon, to code him up another extra-special snowflake of a forum.
Need I tell you the fucking thing is still not done?
Much like every fucking scam "project" in Bitcoin?

TL;DR: At best, this will show that Bitcoin enthusiasts don't have a smidgen of common sense between them; are not to be trusted with money; will spend 2.5 million dollars US for shit that is free. Scratch that, "an unfinished, untested version of what they could have had for free."
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March 29, 2016, 01:12:16 AM
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But you can watch the code being written here: https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk

Also, you really should lookup who these "Anons" are. They actually have a pretty long list of accomplishments. Warren in particular.

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March 29, 2016, 01:13:12 AM
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But you can watch the code being written here: https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk

Joy! $2.5 million US well spent! Smiley
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March 29, 2016, 01:14:31 AM
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I'm glad you finally agree!

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April 11, 2016, 12:20:05 AM
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Doubters will be doubters. I personally can't see 2.5mil being worth it, but whatever.
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April 11, 2016, 04:31:58 AM
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TL;DR: At best, this will show that Bitcoin enthusiasts don't have a smidgen of common sense between them; are not to be trusted with money; will spend 2.5 million dollars US for shit that is free. Scratch that, "an unfinished, untested version of what they could have had for free."

The TSA just paid IBM $1,400,000 for an iPad app that randomly chooses left or right.

https://kev.inburke.com/kevin/tsa-randomizer-app-cost-336000/

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April 11, 2016, 02:36:25 PM
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TL;DR: At best, this will show that Bitcoin enthusiasts don't have a smidgen of common sense between them; are not to be trusted with money; will spend 2.5 million dollars US for shit that is free. Scratch that, "an unfinished, untested version of what they could have had for free."

The TSA just paid IBM $1,400,000 for an iPad app that randomly chooses left or right.

https://kev.inburke.com/kevin/tsa-randomizer-app-cost-336000/

So you're telling me that a government agency might have paid too much on an iPad app*?
And got, at least, a working app?*
For roughly half as much as Thermos "spent" on an unfinished, non-working version of software which is available FOR FREE? Shocked


*from linked article by intrepid journalist who wants to be the Julian Assage of Transportation Security Administration:
"Unfortunately we don't know everything the TSA got for that $1.4 million. They might have just gotten the iPad app; they might have gotten iPads, or work on multiple different apps, including the TSA Randomizer. We only know it's associated with the TSA Randomizer based on the FOIA request that returned this document."
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April 12, 2016, 08:37:09 AM
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For roughly half as much as Thermos "spent" on an unfinished, non-working version of software which is available FOR FREE? Shocked
While the forum might not be finished, it is certainly working. You don't know what you're talking about.

Joy! $2.5 million US well spent! Smiley
The envy is strong.

Doubters will be doubters. I personally can't see 2.5mil being worth it, but whatever.
It is just money, right?

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April 12, 2016, 09:56:20 PM
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For roughly half as much as Thermos "spent" on an unfinished, non-working version of software which is available FOR FREE? Shocked
While the forum might not be finished, it is certainly working. You don't know what you're talking about.
I suppose. In the same sense that a junk Luger is working: it don't shoot, but you can still hit people over the head with its butt Smiley
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Joy! $2.5 million US well spent! Smiley
The envy is strong.
Don't get you. Are you asking if I'm envious of two and a half million dollars, US, being wasted? Does doing that require special, enviable skills?
Or hinting at ... something else?
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