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December 12, 2014, 06:40:28 PM |
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Another shit ico scam.
Well you can buy it for 2k satoshis, but you'll sell it 100 satoshis...
Don't invest...
We are not a scam. Let me just iterate again how things work. We are raising a small fund which seek to serve several purposes. Firstly, we believe in crypto currency being used in businesses models like our own. We feel that in many retail environments both online and offline, the 'points, gift cards, loyalty points' systems are already being successfully used in industry. However, in crypto currency, we have created a model that takes full advantage of this style of 'point' usage and attached value to these coins by giving them immediate use. Secondly, any IPO whether it be in Crypto or regular financial markets, serve as a way for the company to raise funds to expand their operations. As a start up, we have already put a substantial figure towards making all of what we have happen. This includes developing a working coin, platform, store, procuring our products and so forth, and these are expensive when tallied up. Not only this, we are still expanding to make our service better and improving our products and distribution. In order to make sure that our project has long term survivability, we have created an eco-system which we feel can be supported not only from traders, but also real customers who want to buy Nootropics from us. Please do not jump at the opportunity to call every ico a scam. Because we most certainly are not. You will see our products delivered and our store expanded. All the investors will be able to do more with their money, as well as see growth in their investments because we have put in the ground work to make sure our products are real before the launch. 25 million coin * 0.00002 btc = 500 BTC 500 BTC =176.500 USD (current price) is just "a very small" amount of money... I'm pretty sure that these nootropics are just shit useless plant leaves etc... You bring a good point across here in regards to our products. It's clear that you don't understand the nootropic family of supplements, let alone recent developments of products in the 'racetam family, their chemical make up, and mechanism of action. As a positive consequence, I will write up a simplified explanation of our products, along with other nootropics. Also note that full product descriptions are displayed in the product page, for example: http://www.noohack.com/product_page.php?product=2Further to this, we will have a video coming soon explaining ourselves and this industry in order to aid in the understanding of this fascinating and innovative area! Kind regards, Sean You need to proove your supplements' effectiveness. I mean at least an independent university's "bio lab" should publish an article about your supplements. Unless they're crap... Well, there's a chance that you pay for an article to praise your product, but it's consumers problem... I understand where you're coming from. http://www.bengreenfieldfitness.com/2014/11/smart-drugs-vs-nootropics/Check out this link and you can find out some more information about Nootropics. I don't care about these products etc. I care about that; You're basically selling this product, right? Give me certificates of this products, give me something official about your product. Or else; I can create a brand and import some stupid pills under this brand from china for very cheap and I can sell them for high money. You have to provide us your products' certificates.
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ElmerLin
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December 12, 2014, 06:53:50 PM |
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Another shit ico scam.
Well you can buy it for 2k satoshis, but you'll sell it 100 satoshis...
Don't invest...
We are not a scam. Let me just iterate again how things work. We are raising a small fund which seek to serve several purposes. Firstly, we believe in crypto currency being used in businesses models like our own. We feel that in many retail environments both online and offline, the 'points, gift cards, loyalty points' systems are already being successfully used in industry. However, in crypto currency, we have created a model that takes full advantage of this style of 'point' usage and attached value to these coins by giving them immediate use. Secondly, any IPO whether it be in Crypto or regular financial markets, serve as a way for the company to raise funds to expand their operations. As a start up, we have already put a substantial figure towards making all of what we have happen. This includes developing a working coin, platform, store, procuring our products and so forth, and these are expensive when tallied up. Not only this, we are still expanding to make our service better and improving our products and distribution. In order to make sure that our project has long term survivability, we have created an eco-system which we feel can be supported not only from traders, but also real customers who want to buy Nootropics from us. Please do not jump at the opportunity to call every ico a scam. Because we most certainly are not. You will see our products delivered and our store expanded. All the investors will be able to do more with their money, as well as see growth in their investments because we have put in the ground work to make sure our products are real before the launch. 25 million coin * 0.00002 btc = 500 BTC 500 BTC =176.500 USD (current price) is just "a very small" amount of money... I'm pretty sure that these nootropics are just shit useless plant leaves etc... You bring a good point across here in regards to our products. It's clear that you don't understand the nootropic family of supplements, let alone recent developments of products in the 'racetam family, their chemical make up, and mechanism of action. As a positive consequence, I will write up a simplified explanation of our products, along with other nootropics. Also note that full product descriptions are displayed in the product page, for example: http://www.noohack.com/product_page.php?product=2Further to this, we will have a video coming soon explaining ourselves and this industry in order to aid in the understanding of this fascinating and innovative area! Kind regards, Sean You need to proove your supplements' effectiveness. I mean at least an independent university's "bio lab" should publish an article about your supplements. Unless they're crap... Well, there's a chance that you pay for an article to praise your product, but it's consumers problem... I understand where you're coming from. http://www.bengreenfieldfitness.com/2014/11/smart-drugs-vs-nootropics/Check out this link and you can find out some more information about Nootropics. I don't care about these products etc. I care about that; You're basically selling this product, right? Give me certificates of this products, give me something official about your product. Or else; I can create a brand and import some stupid pills under this brand from china for very cheap and I can sell them for high money. You have to provide us your products' certificates. We will have these, and I'll make it a personal note to get these to you first once we have them ready. Thanks for raising this.
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December 12, 2014, 07:06:44 PM |
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I don't care about these products etc.
I care about that; You're basically selling this product, right? Give me certificates of this products, give me something official about your product.
Or else; I can create a brand and import some stupid pills under this brand from china for very cheap and I can sell them for high money.
You have to provide us your products' certificates.
I understand my friend. As my partner mentioned, we currently have the COA forms for each product and will be uploading them in the near future. Thank you for your concerns Regards, Sean
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KingCaper
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December 12, 2014, 07:40:07 PM |
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If Bitbay's taught us anything, it's to just say no to ICOs. Especially ones for coins that have basically ripped off another's ideas. Euphoria already announced they were going to be offering noots via their website. And they didn't have any of this ICO bullshit either.
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December 12, 2014, 07:53:25 PM Last edit: December 14, 2014, 04:58:22 AM by ElmerLin |
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If Bitbay's taught us anything, it's to just say no to ICOs. Especially ones for coins that have basically ripped off another's ideas. Euphoria already announced they were going to be offering noots via their website. And they didn't have any of this ICO bullshit either. Firstly, your mention of Euphoria is the first i've heard about this store. Upon viewing the thread, it is very apparent that they are not a nootropic store. They are a distributer of 'legal highs' for recreational purposes. Our store does not in anyway advocate nor stock any gray area recreational drugs. Our products are supplements whos nature is to enhance one's cognition. Not get high The ICO method of distribution is not 'bullshit'. We have not ripped off other people's ideas. We simply believe that crypto currency is a real way to run our store, but we set out to build a business that was solely focused on nootropics. Secondly, PoW is an option we have considered, but an ICO serves our purposes better. We do want the distribution of the coins to be fairer. A PoW coin will likely end up in the hands of a Chinese mining farm with 70%-80% of the supply. Secondly, we have an honest business, with full transparency and even registered as a business in the UK. Just because one business sells the same products as us, doesn't automatically make our project bullshit, or imply that we copied anybody's ideas. Our giveaways and tiered account system means that users will earn more NooCoin just by being part of the community and buying their favourite noots.
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December 12, 2014, 07:57:41 PM Last edit: December 12, 2014, 08:09:18 PM by TotalPanda |
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KingCaper
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December 12, 2014, 08:00:46 PM |
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The ICO method of distribution is not 'bullshit'.
If I was trying to bag 500 BTC from a fresh batch of suckers, I'd probably be saying that too. No to ICOs.
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ElmerLin
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December 12, 2014, 08:11:14 PM |
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The ICO method of distribution is not 'bullshit'.
If I was trying to bag 500 BTC from a fresh batch of suckers, I'd probably be saying that too. No to ICOs. I appreciate your concern, but the fact of the matter is, we're delivering these products and the coins will be useful from day 1. I do have incentive to sell the ICO because it goes towards getting the business off the ground. The whole process of enabling payments with NooCoin to the logistics of distribution, shipment, packaging, branding etc. All incur costs. These costs have been fronted by us and we've taken a reasonably large risk to sell our products for the coin because we believe in Crypto Currency aiding our business. You forget, because these coins have utility from Day 1, while we do raise BTC, we also provide the stock to allow for 500 btc worth of NooCoin to be spent at our store.
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Sandy79
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December 12, 2014, 08:41:21 PM |
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Think i'll stick with EUPH plus I can't stand ICO's. Good luck though, hope it goes well
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MomoCoin
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December 12, 2014, 10:32:07 PM |
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Nootropics! I'm definitely interested in learning its effects. Does anyone here use them? It would be interesting to hear about user experiences.
As for the coin itself, I am pleased to see a company actually having a product ready to provide at launch. The store I believe would probably be successful based on its competitive pricing and even BTC discounts. For avid Nootropics users, NOO is giving customers a better deal alongside a loyalty programme. Good things all around.
I'm curious about these marketing events that are going to be held.
Good Luck and I look forward to hearing more from you guys!
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December 12, 2014, 10:57:20 PM |
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Think i'll stick with EUPH plus I can't stand ICO's. Good luck though, hope it goes well Thanks, hopefully you'll have a look at us at sometime in the future!
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December 12, 2014, 11:18:25 PM |
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Nootropics! I'm definitely interested in learning its effects. Does anyone here use them? It would be interesting to hear about user experiences.
As for the coin itself, I am pleased to see a company actually having a product ready to provide at launch. The store I believe would probably be successful based on its competitive pricing and even BTC discounts. For avid Nootropics users, NOO is giving customers a better deal whilst acting as a loyalty programme. Good things all around.
I'm curious about these marketing events that are going to be held.
Good Luck and I look forward to hearing more from you guys!
Thank you for your response! Yes the 10% BTC and 25% NOO discounts will hopefully attract more nootropic fans into crypto, and likewise bring more crypto fans into nootropics! We decided to that taking a hit on profit margins was worth the reward of creating a synergy between the two areas. In regards to the marketing events, we will be hosting in London during January. The event will consist of give-aways, promotional items, and of course the sale of our product. It is our first step to breaching the gap between cryptocurrency and the general public. We cannot wait!
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Bitkeeper
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December 13, 2014, 03:11:21 AM |
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This coin is just a copy/clone of EUPH(Euphoria) which was every successful and we already know we can trust them. Go get some cheap coin on C-Cex if your interested in this type of coin. Oh and this NOOcoin has an ICO, yeaaaah I think I will not invest my btc in this. We all saw what happened with BitBay ICO, ICO are scams MOST of the time.
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December 13, 2014, 03:49:11 AM |
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This coin is just a copy/clone of EUPH(Euphoria) which was every successful and we already know we can trust them. Go get some cheap coin on C-Cex if your interested in this type of coin. Oh and this NOOcoin has an ICO, yeaaaah I think I will not invest my btc in this. We all saw what happened with BitBay ICO, ICO are scams MOST of the time.
Whilst I respect your view about questionable ico's, we simply are not that. We will be doing a Google Hangout shortly where you may ask us any questions in person on video. As I said earlier, the decision to run a nootropic store was completely irrelevant to EUPH. This project has been in the works for longer than them even considering deciding to sell Nootropics. We will soon be releasing our product images directly from our distribution centre, as well as Certificates of Analysis of our products. We are also a registered company which you can look up yourselves in your own time, at your own leisure. If you have any questions you may contact me directly and I will be happy to answer any and every concern you have. Thanks
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December 13, 2014, 10:41:10 AM Last edit: December 13, 2014, 10:58:08 AM by johnboy316 |
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If your accepting BTC for orders after the ICO, then why do i need to use your ICO? is a small % discount worth the risk i think not. if i can just use my BTC. Red flag. If Gary has 25 years in marketing how did he forget the first rule, know the competition? Euphoria is relatively new but they beat you to it, sure its not so shiny but they didnt ask for 500 BTC. Thats another red flag. Making 100% ICO is a lazy solution to the age old volatility of a coin being backed by something. It gives you far too much room to manipulate, you do understand that the point of crypto is to get away from centralisation another red flag. I like your idea its aesthetically pleasing. But it should be a business kick starter and has no place here. Also, you say about taking a cut in profits, whats the difference between what you sell and https://www.onnit.com/alphabrain/ other then they charge $34.95 and your product is £27.99 and why doesn't your site list what's in the pills?
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December 13, 2014, 11:00:40 AM Last edit: December 13, 2014, 01:22:46 PM by SeanFox |
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If your accepting BTC for orders after the ICO, then why do i need to use your ICO? is a small % discount worth the risk i think not. if i can just use my BTC. Red flag. If Gary has 25 years in marketing how did he forget the first rule, know the competition? Euphoria is relatively new but they beat you to it, sure its not so shiny but they didnt ask for 500 BTC. Thats another red flag. Making 100% ICO is a lazy solution to the age old volatility of a coin being backed by something. It gives you far too much room to manipulate, you do understand that the point of crypto is to get away from centralisation another red flag. I like your idea its aesthetically pleasing. But it should be a business kick starter and has no place here. Also, you say about taking a cut in profits, whats the difference between what you sell and https://www.onnit.com/alphabrain/ other then they charge $34.95 and your product is £27.99 and why doesn't your site list what's in the pills? We understand if you feel the risk is too high. It does indeed seem that the altcoin community is extremely wary of ICO scams, quite rightly too. We will be evaluating the coins model based on responses in this thread. Thank you for your kind words regarding aesthetics, I myself am quite the perfectionist (to the annoyance of the team!). Overall we thank the criticism. The altcoin scene is changing so rapidly and it's great to get the current opinions of the community. In regards to the content of the products, it is indeed listed on our website. COAs will be uploaded as soon as possible. We have updated the OP to include the items and information we will be releasing soon (this week). Kind regards, Sean
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December 14, 2014, 04:58:47 AM |
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I can actually buy something on day 1 with NooCoin? Count me in. Looking forward to the expansion into Canada.
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December 14, 2014, 11:04:46 AM |
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so how does one obtain a wallet and some NooCoins? (the wallet links dont work?)
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December 14, 2014, 04:21:45 PM Last edit: December 14, 2014, 06:35:19 PM by SeanFox |
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I can actually buy something on day 1 with NooCoin? Count me in. Looking forward to the expansion into Canada.
Yes you can sir! Pre-orders will be accepted until the 5th of January and shipped on the 8th of January under these conditions: Pre-Order Conditions Customers can deposit a minimum of 10% of the value of the order to initiate the pre-order process. When we ship our first batch, if the pre-order is paid in full by the 5th, the order will be fulfilled on the 8th of January and the products shipped to the customer.
Refund A pre-order may be refunded in the case that a customer no longer wants their order fulfilled. To cancel, simply select the cancel order option and the original and exact amount of funds will be refunded to the address supplied. NooHack assumes a pre-order not paid in full by the 5th an intention of cancellation. In this case, order will be automatically cancelled, and funds refunded to the address supplied.
so how does one obtain a wallet and some NooCoins? (the wallet links dont work?)
This is a pre announcement thread my friend . We're very close to launch now though so keep your eyes peeled for the official announcement thread! Regards, Sean
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December 14, 2014, 07:40:58 PM |
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will keep my eyes peeled. curious how you plan to bypass bittrex, there so anal these days. essentially your setting up an online crypto pharmacy, prob aim for c-cex or another exchange, cheaper to bribe, er i mean compensate
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