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BitBay / BayCoin / CryptoBay Project:

“The goal of ‘BitBay’ is to create the entire economy within the crypto space. With the implementation of multiple smart contract methods - such as unbreakable double deposit, Halo contracts, and special time locked contracts with the new CheckLockTimeVerify function, this project can allow all kinds of innovative financial instruments. For example, accounts can be created with two keys that can later convert to three keys. Contracts can be made completely unbreakable, financial derivatives will never go unpaid, and BitBay will be the first coin to convert to a full hedging coin. This means, the price gets locked in after the project proves its developement schedule.

The economy of BitBay hinges on decentralized markets. We are supporting Halo technology by licensing their software. Since we see the amazing value in being part of the worlds first decentralized markets with Halo technology and decentralized Bitmessage markets we are honored to be working with them. The technology that we will use in BitBay is based on BlackHalos market engine that leverages ‘Bitmessage’. Combining the use of proof of burn, white-lists and Bitmessage Channels, these markets will have no central point of failure. The Bitbay blockchain is  impossible to bloat and can scale to meet the needs of international markets.

Furthermore, we use our contact list from Alibaba to help populate all the decentralized markets. BitBay is positioned to replace current online auction websites once the world recognizes the true utility of basing trust on Satoshi’s blockchain tech. After the debut of the markets, we will fork the coin into a hedging coin. This will greatly reward investors who get in on the ground floor, and it will eliminate volatility using a similar system to NuBits. This is all possible because of time locks that allow us to park coins.

BitBay supports Stealth technology. Because of time locks, it will be possible to perform Atomic trades allowing for decentralized exchange.

Bitbay smart contracts are also designed to support the internet of things. We plan on implementing our contracts into hardware. Since the contracts are unbreakable, we will form powerful partnerships in Chinese manufacturing markets and be able to decentralize more than just money. Hardware will store these contracts and be used for honoring agreements and creating mesh networks.

Mesh networks are by FAR the Holy grail of anonymity and freedom. This is internet without IP addresses. Forget, Maidsafe, we want to decentralize the world and make it free for everyone. This is our end goal.

We are proud to say we are a coalition of some very powerful people in Crypto. This is a long term project with a fast paced development schedule.

OFFICIAL COMMENT FROM DAVID:

"Hi, this is David Zimbeck. I'm working on this coin as a project manager, this will NOT distract/detract from my work with BlackHalo/NightTrader. Bitbay approached me and has shown their loyalty thus far. This team is not just one man. We will have a full development team that will work full time on the tech. The people behind this coin are highly connected and I believe they plan on fully funding the development of Smart Contracting technology. In turn this will actually speed Halo's development schedule. Like stated on reddit, we form powerful partnerships unlike the world has ever seen. This makes Blackcoin and Halo stronger. We now will have some much needed support and something to hedge with. So that's my official statement. Now lets wait and see."
 
Markets are fully hard coded into the client. We believe that the community makes the coin, therefore we list this coins initial features as follows:

*No volatility with hedging
*Unbreakable Smart Contracts
*Advanced contracts with Time locks
*Decentralized Markets
*Anon Stealth
*Hardware Smart contracts
*Mesh-Network
*Community driven

We have many more surprises in store and the development talent to make this a reality. We support our developers unlike other coins and see this as a business. This list of tools will be our first accomplishment and from there we will add many more exciting features to follow. Be prepared to see a full economy where everyone can go to perform any kind of business. This project will bring larger markets into crypto. I would like to personally thank you for taking the time to research this project.  Please do not hesitate to ask any questions. We will be happy to answer you as soon as possible.



To learn more about Halo(released May 29th) which was the worlds first smart contracting, multicoin, and multisignature client see (http://blackhalo.info) or
(www.bitHalo.org)



Overview:

BitBay will introduce a completely unique, open, and decentralized marketplace that allows anyone - in any country - to participate regardless of government boundaries.

BitBay will  provide a stable, secure, and safe environment to buy and sell products and services over the internet.  Our technology runs on top of a blockchain decentralized network which ensures that reliability, performance, and accuracy is guaranteed at all times. Theft is not possible through BitBay.

The platform, by design, contains no single point of control, points of failure, or single points of security.  All crucial functions are decentralized and consensus-driven by all users participating in the network.  BitBay is designed with low barriers of entry, allowing anyone to become a reputable merchant or to participate as a buyer, all based on multisig + smart contracts. We will be developing a free and democratically decentralized global marketplace.



FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions):

Questions concerning BitBay and its use of HALO technology:


Q: Please explain how the escrow system will protect buyers & sellers in BitBay transactions.

A: The system is the revolutionary double deposit escrow. Both Buyer and Seller place deposits into a shared account. There is no need for an escrow agent. The deposits serve as the incentive to perform. Therefore theft and deception is impossible in these escrows. If those actions occur, the parties will not agree, the escrow will expire and they both lose. BitBay takes the profit out of theft.


Q: How does BitBay differ from OpenBazaar? How is OpenBazaar “pseudo centralized”?

A: David is of the opinion that uTorrent may be correlated to other things in order to reveal the ip addresses of the parties involved in a contract. Its unclear whether or not OpenBazaar will truly be secure. Tor itself has a known security vulnerability on exit nodes.
Open Bazaar uses arbiters which are horribly inefficient and dangerous. As an example, eBay arbiters are never able to tell who is telling the truth when someone gets scammed. Also, a botnet could easily generate 100’s of arbiter accounts and collude with themselves, stealing escrows. So OpenBazaar’s system is much more vulnerable than eBay. I hope they will one day add double escrow as an option.
BitBay uses decentralized escrow, there are no arbiter judges or human error involved. Just two parties with a completely unbreakable agreement. It is the most perfect form of escrow in existence.


Q: What is the development schedule (roadmap)?

A: First, we release the smart contracting wallet. This has almost all of Halo’s features which makes it the most advanced cryptocurrency wallet in the world. Next, we release decentralized markets. One will go through a server to qualify for the whitelist and the other will be a Bitmessage system with a trust building whitelisting system. This will be a decentralized market for all contracts. Next, Halo will release their NightTrader microtrading engine.  More exotic contracts will debut once checklocktimeverify is added. Then we work on Hedging. The roadmap is about 2-3 months, putting markets and hedging releases out in the first quarter of 2015. After the hedging fork, you will see everything polished and after market testing the product, improvements will be made to make the code more efficient and bring it to the api level.


Q: Please explain how pegging will work. I watched the whiteboard videos and don’t understand.

A: For properly holding a price to a coin such as in NuBits, you need to control some factors of the coin. First you have a rule to control the total supply. Supply will be increased and decreased using new rules about how much of an input you have to spend and how much you must freeze. We will allow a certain number of coins to be liquid and a certain amount of coins will have to wait to enter the market. So you will have a certain percentage of your coins available at one time. Then a large buy wall is set below to total supply. So if there is 100 coins available, then a 100 dollar buy wall is set. This also depends on how quickly we want to see our target price. We may not want to hit a dollar too fast. It may be more profitable for everyone to allow the price to grow towards our target. Most likely we can increase a certain percentage every day and watch how to market reacts. If anyone sells into the wall not only do they have to wait for their coins to become liquid again, they also must wait for us to resell the coins at a higher price. This is why NuBits always ranges from 99 cents to 1.01 dollars. Selling or buying too far outside of the margin allows for the people who buy at those prices to profit instantly. The system at first will be centralized since we will need to find optimal supply lines. After we see how the market behaves, we could allow for voting on the total supply.


Q: What needs to happen between the release of the marketplace in Q1 2015 and the beginning of pegging in order for pegging to be successful - both organizationally, and on the tech side?

A: BitBay should be as organized as possible. David will lead a team that is being set up in order to work full time on the code and the marketing. There will be human resources and a good amount of project managers. On the tech side, the elements to implement these features are already here and practical.


Q: Are there any mechanisms to rid the BitBay marketplace of things like guns, abusive pornagraphy, hitmen, etc?

A: Those things will not be possible in the main markets even though they are in fact decentralized. This is for two reasons. First in order to get into a white listed market, you need to prove your worth by doing deals in the Halo market. Next, once in the decentralized market, special moderator versions of Halo will be given out to help oversee what is seen in a decentralized market. Users can also flag posts and when a certain number of flags is reached, the orders become invisible. Whitelists allow for trust systems. So anyone running a decentralized market has total control over who is able to post to it.


Q: If everything is visible in the blockchain, does that also mean that all BitBay marketplace activity can be traced, or just by the individuals who were involved in the transaction?

A: The only thing visible in the BitBay blockchain is the double deposit contract which reveals absolutely nothing about the parties. Everything is encrypted so there is no way to trace anything. Bitmessage is anonymous E-mail. Other systems such as Tox and torrent based systems are also worth considering. The messages are always encrypted on both ends twice. Once by Bitmessage itself and again by Halo.


Q: In a more general sense, is it possible to be completely anonymous in this system? If so, how?

A: Yes of course. There is no third parties, no escrow agents, no servers and no record of your contract. The contract is peer to peer so only you hold a copy of the agreement. In the future, we will consider complete Zero knowledge in BitBay.


Q: Please explain how the multicoin wallet works. Does it make any difference which coin i use?

A: Halo is the only multicoin wallet in existence currently. BitHalo uses online APIs to check the blockchain such as Electrum, Blockchain.info and Biteasy. BlackHalo uses Blackcoins daemon as BitBay uses BitBays daemon. Any coin used in NightTraders microtrader automatically downloads the daemon and uses it to trade coins under Halo.
The difference in the coin is only the difference in what community you love and want to be a part of. David’s idea is to unite the ideology behind coins and make them come together as one beautiful community. If you are a Dogecoin fan, use DogeHalo. BitBay fan, use BayHalo and so forth. All under the hood of the complete Halo suite.


Q: Since the wallet focuses on smart contracts, isn’t it safe to say BitBay could easily challenge the worldwide freelance job middlemen such as O-Desk, 99 Designs, Fiver & the like?

A: Of course. When you have a system that is superior, cheaper, international, and immune to the issues of theft. You can use our new system that is highly powerful and expansive. There is no reason not to use it. Especially in the case of O-Desk where employees are unresponsive and slow. Now you can force them to hit quotas. There is currently nothing like this anywhere in the world.


Q: Can you please explain mesh networks? How is this different from Internet of Things?

A: The goal of mesh networks was a cyberpunks dream since the beginning of the internet. To give free internet to the world. Did you know, that most cell phone companies disable tethering of internet to force people to use paid systems?! In fact, there is enough routers and phones in the world to give the entire planet free internet and phones! But, its up to the people to make that choice. We can help them by offering Bay as an incentive and giving them the correct cell phone hardware, devices and things to route their internet in a mesh.
Any further development of hardware is not yet announced. However, staking devices, devices that sign transactions, and multisignature software and time locks implemented into hardware has a bright future. Once our road map is complete, we can explore more avenues if our endeavors are successful.


Q: What are the clear and unique differences between BayHalo, BlackHalo, and BitHalo. What will one coin have that others will not?

A: BlackHalo has NightTrader which is a decentralized cross platform exchange. BitBay has hedging and hardware for price stability making it a more attractive choice for markets. BitBay will also have special locking contracts and David hopes to convince Blackcoin to accept lock times as well. So they both have their pros and cons. BitHalo is a media darling and its success helps draw attention to the entire suite.


Q: Do you have a whitepaper to explain your technology?

A: BitHalo has a whitepaper at their main site BitHalo.org. NightTraders whitepaper is not released to keep the concept and method protected. The hedging process will indeed have a whitepaper. David is still in the process of finding the optimal strategies before release of the paper.


Questions concerning BitBay’s direction & evolution:


Q: What is David Zimbeck’s role in BitBay and is he a lead developer for the project ‘long-term’? Where / when in the roadmap does your current agreement with David end?

A: Yes, David is lead programmer for the BitBay marketplace and also HALO technology. He will be with the project long-term and the ultimate goal is to make this a career for everyone on the team. There may be other programmers who are outsourced to complete tasks faster and also to bring about other tools, such as: Multipools, Mobile Wallets, Trade Charts, Block Explorers, Price Converters, etc.



Q: How will BAY be using ICO investment funds?  Will there be any public accountability or updates?

A: The BitBay team will not receive all of the investment funds out the gate. As stated during the ICO period, only a fraction of the community investment will be available to the team for immediate use. The rest of the funds will get released by bter exchange as we hit our development milestones. Here is a breakdown of how ICO funds will be released to the project:

All ICO Funds has been paid to BitBay dev now. we will keep developing bitbay for many years.


Q: For the marketplace to be successful, it needs to gain a critical mass of users. What is the plan to achieve this?

A: We have already had agreements with some of the top vendors of Alibaba who are ready to help push our goal of achieving critical mass. Not only are they waiting on the sidelines, but there have been many other companies from eBay as well as real world (brick and mortar) businesses who have contacted us with interest. These connections, coupled with our technology and large-scale marketing techniques will help to push our viability into the spotlight.


Q: Can you please explain the Alibaba connection?

A: Several of our team members have direct connections with some of the top selling product vendors on Alibaba. These sellers have already agreed to create a storefront on our service. Because of the Non-Disclosure Agreements made, our team is not allowed to discuss many details of those partnerships until the NDA is lifted. By that time, BitBay will already see many companies signed on and using our service.


Q: How much of the ICO is set off for marketing?  What are the main uses of these funds so far, and what will be the main uses in the coming months?

A: Marketing funds will be used from our development pool on an ‘as needed’ basis. So far, we’ve been able to reach this point by using only approximately 20 bitcoin from the initial investment period. As we enter the stages of our decentralized market release, there will be a lot more focus on marketing to potential buyers and sellers. Also we have plans to ask some big venture capital firms to support us later down the line.





Wallet Version 1.0.0.1 - Please Upgrade Immediately:

- Windows Automatic Installer: http://www.mediafire.com/download/ysbxbxumyvcs535/BitBay-Automatic-1.0.0.1.zip
- Windows Manual Install: http://www.mediafire.com/download/6ea20i9fa64lftf/BitBay-Manual-1.0.0.1.zip
- Mac Installer: http://www.mediafire.com/download/hdi7e7y4gjkvh93/bitbay-qt-1.0.0.1-osx.zip
- Linux: (Coming Soon)
- Android: (Coming Soon)
- iPhone: (Coming Soon)

- Public GitHub Access: https://github.com/Bitbaydev/bitbay





BitBay will feature an in-wallet marketplace much like Amazon, Alibaba, and eBay which will utilize it’s own cryptocurrency (BitBay). Not only will users be able to buy and sell goods, but BitBay will include a digital distribution service for “decentralized software”. This will allow content producers to distribute digital downloads in the same fashion as the Apple Store, iTunes, Google Play, etc. BitBay will also include geotracking technology allowing users to locate car rental services, maids, painters, and a complete range of other local services. To comprehend the vast array of services possible, please consider something like ‘Craigslist’, but utilizing our currency, smart contracts, geotracking, and multi-sig agreements. Especially due to our built in smart contracts technology, BitBay users will be able to buy or sell art, skills, talents, or any other valued commodity.

   Simply put, the world of commerce is about to change. The BitBay platform is set to completely decentralized the way merchant services and online auctions are done through the internet. BitBay will provide much of the the world with its first taste of how crucial it is to utilize the ‘Blockchain’ when doing business between two parties. Never again will there be a lost contract, invoice, receipt, will, notary, or any other binding agreement. It’s all there, searchable, and completely transparent.

The BitBay project weaves together Smart Contracts, Multi-Sig technology, and Reputation Vetting all tied into a unbreakable marketplace located on the BitBay Blockchain. The power of such a marketplace has no boundaries. This is the revolution of free trade.

Our investors can be rest assured in knowing that BitBay has one of the top developers in crypto community behind the wheel. Many more examples, technical review, and additional details of the BitBay platform will be added here within the coming days.









The general concept behind Smart Contract technology was first conceived by Mr. Nick Szabo in the mid 1990’s. Since that time, there has been many software engineers, theorists, and cryptographers who’ve been working diligently to crack to code on the best way to make their dream a reality. Fast forward 20 years, and individuals such as David Zimbeck, Peter Todd and others have begun to fulfill their dreams. At a basic level, contract security can be based on what programmers would call a “if-then” statement, but instead of taking place in strictly computer software, these statements can resonate into the real world and become completely unbreakable through Satoshi’s Blockchain technology. When BitBay’s pre-programmed conditions are triggered, the smart contract executes the clause and everything appears directly on the Blockchain for the world to see and verify.

These contracts are unbreakable, enforceable, and completely secure while simultaneously giving equal rights to both parties involved in the clause.

Here are some useful links regarding Smart Contracts and BlackHalo technology:

- http://www.fastcolabs.com/3035723/app-economy/smart-contracts-could-be-cryptocurrencys-killer-app
(More links coming very soon)


Test version of our Smart Contracts advanced wallet. Please keep in mind that this is a preview image of things to come.




Let’s face it, the internet is now a seamless part of everyday life for most people all around the world. PC’s, handheld devices, WiFi, game consoles, and even vehicles are connected to a mass neural network we call “the internet”. Our team feels that although the internet is a beautiful resource and tool for humanity, it is not without some obvious flaws. Our focus currently is getting around the fact that the internet now completely centralized and controlled by the worlds government elites and corporate entities. This is a monopoly that must be stopped before regulation and control gets out of hand.

BitBay’s Blockchain will have the power to contain a new system of accessing the world wide web. Smart objects (with digital tokens) can now be linked to physical objects in the real world. Thus, smart objects now become ‘smart property’. So what’s this mean for the average person?

Let’s say you want to buy a car. As a smart object, your car is now part of the BitBay network. By utilizing our marketplace and smart contracts, the parties involved can make the trade and the car will now only unlock for the rightful owner which is proven on the Blockchain. Simply ‘sync’ the car to your wallet using your smartphone and make sure you’ve got a full tank of gas! The future of digital transactions are endless and seamless!

This is the future, this is the internet 3.0! All things will be networked and the beginning starts now with BitBay.

"Looking to the future, Cisco IBSG predicts there will be 25 billion devices connected to the Internet by 2015 and 50 billion by 2020. It is important to note that these estimates do not take into account rapid advances in Internet or device technology; the numbers presented are based on what is known to be true today" - http://postscapes.com/internet-of-things-market-size


Useful Links on ‘IOT’ technology:

- http://www.coindesk.com/ibm-sees-role-block-chain-internet-things/
- http://www.bigdata-startups.com/BigData-startup/what-is-the-value-of-the-internet-of-things-infographic/
- http://www.businessinsider.com/growth-in-the-internet-of-things-2013-10





Useful Links on Multi-Sig technology:

- http://bitcoinmagazine.com/11108/multisig-future-bitcoin/#
- http://www.coindesk.com/bithalo-smart-contracts-without-block-chain-bloat/




Coin Specs (POS 2.0):

- Block time: 64 seconds
- Nominal stake interest: 1% annually
- Min transaction fee: 0.0001 Bay
- Confirmations: 10, maturity: 50
- Min stake age: 8 hours, no max age
- Total: 1 Billion
- Ticker: BAY

BitBay Features (Currently in Development / Upcoming Releases):

- Smart Contracts
- Advanced Smart Contracts: Machine to Machine advanced contract fulfillment (IOT: Internet of Things)
- Multi-Sig
- Joint Accounts
- Muti-Coin Wallet Features
- Decentralized marketplace (A new approach different from OpenBazaar)
- POS 2.0 (Theoretical “51% attack” is nearly impossible)
- Convert BitBay into a hedging coin (price will be pegged to RnB)
- Windows, Mac, Linux, and Mobile Staking Wallets (Android, iPhone, Windows)
- In-wallet resources (Chat, Block Explorer, Gaming, Community).
- Proof of Developer (POD) and Crypto Certify ratings in progress.

Much more to come..

Available for use immediately upon ICO completion:

- Windows QT wallet (Certified)
- Mac QT wallet (Certified)
- Block Explorer
- Android / iPhone wallets will release within just a few days of testing on the blockchain after initial coin distribution.

BitBay requires serious investors to develop, secure, and maintain this revolutionary decentralized e-commerce platform. An investment in BitBay is an investment in the future of e-commerce. A marketplace built for everyone.





- Block Explorer (Coming soon)
- Games (Dice, Wheel, Poker, and more - Game releases will come along with user demand)
 



- http://www.altcointoday.com/bitbay-ico-coming-to-an-end/ (Altcoin Today)
- http://zl.yibite.com/point/2014/1110/24799.shtml (Yibite - Chinese Media)
- https://bter.com/article/3672 (Bter - Chinese Media)

Find us online!:

- Website: http://www.thebitbay.org
- Facebook Like Page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/BitBay/1495718394045477
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/BitBayMarket


Final Word:

Ever since the Han Dynasty (206 BC) the Chinese have been pioneers in opening marketplaces and trade routes to connect their own people with the peoples of the world. The evolution of the original Silk Road (or Silk Route) led to the most prolific open marketplace in the known world. Free markets were one of the driving forces behind the rise of early Chinese civilization.

Now the forces of e-commerce, cryptocurrency, and decentralized marketplaces are gathering again in the East. This time to create a decentralized online marketplace that cannot be controlled by any government is NOW. BitBay will integrate the worlds largest population with with the rest of the online world in a decentralized online marketplace that will operate in many ways like other well known online auction sites - but that will operate without centralized ownership. Once BAY is finalized, it can never be taken out of publics hands.

Please let us know if you have any questions and our marketing or development team will be contacted as soon as possible to answer your questions. Please keep in mind that we are a global team and time-zones will determine how soon we can reply. We'll do our best to reply to all questions and concerns in a timely fashion. Thank you for your interest and support!


Translations
German- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=854140.new#new
Chinese- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=853544.0


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Is this another trojan ?
Or you made this new thread because of the recent events?

( Not saying it's a trojan, just a lot of random people have been posting existing ANNs with trojans inside of them )

Hey, smexy. Don't waste your time. Time's precious.
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Is this another trojan ?
Or you made this new thread because of the recent events?

( Not saying it's a trojan, just a lot of random people have been posting existing ANNs with trojans inside of them )

Then build from my source then. I am not sure how Steven plans on moderating this though.
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I think you should consider more security measures.Thanks

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So let's get this straight.

BTer - who seems to have committed major fraud in the ICO of Bay - has now started their own "official" BAY thread.

This is getting very interesting.
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Is this another trojan ?
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( Not saying it's a trojan, just a lot of random people have been posting existing ANNs with trojans inside of them )

Then build from my source then. I am not sure how Steven plans on moderating this though.
Your nickname sounds like Jumbuck(s).

Anyway, good luck in the future.

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Close this thread.  Start a new self-moderated thread with XSTerminate to automatically delete the trolls: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850210

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If this is the new "official" BitBay thread, can we expect a statement from BTer on their role in this fraud, the fake BTC etc? Since they are apparently 1/5th owner of BitBay?

No evasions please crypto-steve or Zimbeck. Answer the question.
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How about Zimbek answer about his claiming Blackhalo and smart contracts his when he robbed it from this in August? http://bitxbay.ws/

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I want to be reimbursed by bter of all my losses if they are behind this stupid thing in any way. All my transaction records are sitting on their hard drives. Evidence.
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=840972.msg9400690#msg9400690

Bobsurplus has controlled the BitBay Team bitcointalk account. and he want to dump the price to 20sats and pump this to 100 sats again. that's the reason why he keep FUDs this. The most evil people we have ever met is Bobsurplus.

No matter what happened, we will keep develop bitbay and maybe convert to bitbay2.0 in few days.

we will not fear threaten and extortion from him.

Here is some extortions evidence from him and he extort 1000BTC from bter.

Bter is an exchange platform, and they will not save any funds for BitBay anymore.


BitBay dev is the only official thread for bitbay!
David zimbeck and all our coders will keep develop hedging system and Decentralized marketplace.
Here is our new ANN thread, we will not respond on this old thread anymore.





[13:30:42] cryptosteven: all bter's money has refund to bitbay dev. and we will keep buying bitbay. bitbay has nothing to do with bter anymore. and they will not Save money for bitbay team anymore.   you are asking for 1000BTC from bter. it's a extortion.
[13:35:39] International Rob: nahh
[13:35:46] International Rob: i was offering to keep the story quiet
[13:35:49] International Rob: now its too late


BitBay dev is the only official representative for bitbay.
David zimbeck and all our coders will keep developing hedging system and decentralized marketplace and someother features.
Here is our new ANN thread, we will not respond in this old thread anymore.


BitBay New Official Thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=890322.0

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BitBay Official Twitter: https://twitter.com/BitBayofficial
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Close this thread.  Start a new self-moderated thread with XSTerminate to automatically delete the trolls: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850210



Wait who are the trolls now? Pissed as hell investors? Not the shills of the ICO guys now apparently..
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 Cheesy This coin looks like Vootcoinshit drama with scammer dev.
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I am a BAYliever.
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LOL... steven.... you are one funny fucker.... you think a new unmoderated thread will help your cause..

lmao... hell noooo.
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Chinese mobster is the new BitBay dev HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?
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[11/28/2014 9:56:33 AM] David Zimbeck: how do we know that they actually bought 500 BTC?
[11/28/2014 9:57:12 AM] cryptosteven: i counted their group members account on bter, they do brought more than 500BTC

So Zimbeck has access to internal BTER accounts through the chinese mobster / new dev   HuhHuh??

what the hell is going on here?
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[11/28/2014 9:56:33 AM] David Zimbeck: how do we know that they actually bought 500 BTC?
[11/28/2014 9:57:12 AM] cryptosteven: i counted their group members account on bter, they do brought more than 500BTC

So Zimbeck has access to internal BTER accounts through the chinese mobster / new dev   HuhHuh??

what the hell is going on here?

Lin, the other Chinese partner/mobster is the owner of bter, or the ceo or something... why do you think we got bitswift ninja added???  lin is the mastermind behind the phantom btc and fake selloutr volume...


bter are criminals.
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[11/28/2014 9:56:33 AM] David Zimbeck: how do we know that they actually bought 500 BTC?
[11/28/2014 9:57:12 AM] cryptosteven: i counted their group members account on bter, they do brought more than 500BTC

So Zimbeck has access to internal BTER accounts through the chinese mobster / new dev   HuhHuh??

what the hell is going on here?

Lin, the other Chinese partner/mobster is the owner of bter, or the ceo or something... why do you think we got bitswift ninja added???  lin is the mastermind behind the phantom btc and fake selloutr volume...


bter are criminals.

Takes one to know one...
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[11/28/2014 9:56:33 AM] David Zimbeck: how do we know that they actually bought 500 BTC?
[11/28/2014 9:57:12 AM] cryptosteven: i counted their group members account on bter, they do brought more than 500BTC

So Zimbeck has access to internal BTER accounts through the chinese mobster / new dev   HuhHuh??

what the hell is going on here?

Lin, the other Chinese partner/mobster is the owner of bter, or the ceo or something... why do you think we got bitswift ninja added???  lin is the mastermind behind the phantom btc and fake selloutr volume...


bter are criminals.

So dude what are you gonna buy with those 600+ BTC anyway? Hookers and coke or are you gonna invest?
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[11/28/2014 9:56:33 AM] David Zimbeck: how do we know that they actually bought 500 BTC?
[11/28/2014 9:57:12 AM] cryptosteven: i counted their group members account on bter, they do brought more than 500BTC

So Zimbeck has access to internal BTER accounts through the chinese mobster / new dev   HuhHuh??

what the hell is going on here?

Lin, the other Chinese partner/mobster is the owner of bter, or the ceo or something... why do you think we got bitswift ninja added???  lin is the mastermind behind the phantom btc and fake selloutr volume...


bter are criminals.

So dude what are you gonna buy with those 600+ BTC anyway? Hookers and coke or are you gonna invest?


bought a penthouse in the sky actually!!
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[11/28/2014 9:56:33 AM] David Zimbeck: how do we know that they actually bought 500 BTC?
[11/28/2014 9:57:12 AM] cryptosteven: i counted their group members account on bter, they do brought more than 500BTC

So Zimbeck has access to internal BTER accounts through the chinese mobster / new dev   HuhHuh??

what the hell is going on here?

lol, it's a long story as to how they found out about how much BAY the group bought. Quite a funny one actually, eh bob?
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[11/28/2014 9:56:33 AM] David Zimbeck: how do we know that they actually bought 500 BTC?
[11/28/2014 9:57:12 AM] cryptosteven: i counted their group members account on bter, they do brought more than 500BTC

So Zimbeck has access to internal BTER accounts through the chinese mobster / new dev   HuhHuh??

what the hell is going on here?

Lin, the other Chinese partner/mobster is the owner of bter, or the ceo or something... why do you think we got bitswift ninja added???  lin is the mastermind behind the phantom btc and fake selloutr volume...


bter are criminals.

So dude what are you gonna buy with those 600+ BTC anyway? Hookers and coke or are you gonna invest?

A good whore will run about 1BTC. A pretty one at least. And couple grams of coke on Agora another BTC. it will run out pretty quick!
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[11/28/2014 9:56:33 AM] David Zimbeck: how do we know that they actually bought 500 BTC?
[11/28/2014 9:57:12 AM] cryptosteven: i counted their group members account on bter, they do brought more than 500BTC

So Zimbeck has access to internal BTER accounts through the chinese mobster / new dev   HuhHuh??

what the hell is going on here?

lol, it's a long story as to how they found out about how much BAY the group bought. Quite a funny one actually, eh bob?

LMAO.. that was a fun ass night... chilling in the DR anddealing with all that bullshit... you should tell them the story...
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[11/28/2014 9:56:33 AM] David Zimbeck: how do we know that they actually bought 500 BTC?
[11/28/2014 9:57:12 AM] cryptosteven: i counted their group members account on bter, they do brought more than 500BTC

So Zimbeck has access to internal BTER accounts through the chinese mobster / new dev   HuhHuh??

what the hell is going on here?

Lin, the other Chinese partner/mobster is the owner of bter, or the ceo or something... why do you think we got bitswift ninja added???  lin is the mastermind behind the phantom btc and fake selloutr volume...


bter are criminals.

So dude what are you gonna buy with those 600+ BTC anyway? Hookers and coke or are you gonna invest?


bought a penthouse in the sky actually!!

Well if you ever want to diversify into something REALLY profitable and that won't cause your customers to hate you and want to kill you, let me know, lol.
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So.. BTER is going to bleed if all those accusations are real, huh.

Hey, smexy. Don't waste your time. Time's precious.
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So.. BTER is going to bleed if all those accusations are real, huh.

Honestly I don't know if anyone will give a shit in the unregulated wild wild west. Bay just keeps trading along fine. Think the day traders have it on cruise control now.
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=840972.msg9400690#msg9400690

Bobsurplus has controlled the BitBay Team bitcointalk account. and he want to dump the price to 20sats and pump this to 100 sats again. that's the reason why he keep FUDs this. The most evil people we have ever met is Bobsurplus.

No matter what happened, we will keep develop bitbay and maybe convert to bitbay2.0 in few days.

we will not fear threaten and extortion from him.

Here is some extortions evidence from him and he extort 1000BTC from bter.

Bter is an exchange platform, and they will not save any funds for BitBay anymore.


BitBay dev is the only official thread for bitbay!
David zimbeck and all our coders will keep develop hedging system and Decentralized marketplace.
Here is our new ANN thread, we will not respond on this old thread anymore.





[13:30:42] cryptosteven: all bter's money has refund to bitbay dev. and we will keep buying bitbay. bitbay has nothing to do with bter anymore. and they will not Save money for bitbay team anymore.   you are asking for 1000BTC from bter. it's a extortion.
[13:35:39] International Rob: nahh
[13:35:46] International Rob: i was offering to keep the story quiet
[13:35:49] International Rob: now its too late


BitBay dev is the only official representative for bitbay.
David zimbeck and all our coders will keep developing hedging system and decentralized marketplace and someother features.
Here is our new ANN thread, we will not respond in this old thread anymore.


BitBay New Official Thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=890322.0

David zimbeck and all our coders will keep developing hedging system and decentralized marketplace and some other features.
We will also buy bitbay from market to support the price.

David Zimbeck Interview

BitBay Official Twitter: https://twitter.com/BitBayofficial
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=840972.msg9400690#msg9400690

Bobsurplus has controlled the BitBay Team bitcointalk account. and he want to dump the price to 20sats and pump this to 100 sats again. that's the reason why he keep FUDs this. The most evil people we have ever met is Bobsurplus.

No matter what happened, we will keep develop bitbay and maybe convert to bitbay2.0 in few days.

we will not fear threaten and extortion from him.

Here is some extortions evidence from him and he extort 1000BTC from bter.

Bter is an exchange platform, and they will not save any funds for BitBay anymore.


BitBay dev is the only official thread for bitbay!
David zimbeck and all our coders will keep develop hedging system and Decentralized marketplace.
Here is our new ANN thread, we will not respond on this old thread anymore.





[13:30:42] cryptosteven: all bter's money has refund to bitbay dev. and we will keep buying bitbay. bitbay has nothing to do with bter anymore. and they will not Save money for bitbay team anymore.   you are asking for 1000BTC from bter. it's a extortion.
[13:35:39] International Rob: nahh
[13:35:46] International Rob: i was offering to keep the story quiet
[13:35:49] International Rob: now its too late


BitBay dev is the only official representative for bitbay.
David zimbeck and all our coders will keep developing hedging system and decentralized marketplace and someother features.
Here is our new ANN thread, we will not respond in this old thread anymore.


BitBay New Official Thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=890322.0

David zimbeck and all our coders will keep developing hedging system and decentralized marketplace and some other features.
We will also buy bitbay from market to support the price.

Who are WE? Full names, addresses and phone numbers or fuck off!

If you are the owner of bter then shame on you!
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=840972.msg9400690#msg9400690

Bobsurplus has controlled the BitBay Team bitcointalk account. and he want to dump the price to 20sats and pump this to 100 sats again. that's the reason why he keep FUDs this. The most evil people we have ever met is Bobsurplus.

No matter what happened, we will keep develop bitbay and maybe convert to bitbay2.0 in few days.

we will not fear threaten and extortion from him.

Here is some extortions evidence from him and he extort 1000BTC from bter.

Bter is an exchange platform, and they will not save any funds for BitBay anymore.


BitBay dev is the only official thread for bitbay!
David zimbeck and all our coders will keep develop hedging system and Decentralized marketplace.
Here is our new ANN thread, we will not respond on this old thread anymore.





[13:30:42] cryptosteven: all bter's money has refund to bitbay dev. and we will keep buying bitbay. bitbay has nothing to do with bter anymore. and they will not Save money for bitbay team anymore.   you are asking for 1000BTC from bter. it's a extortion.
[13:35:39] International Rob: nahh
[13:35:46] International Rob: i was offering to keep the story quiet
[13:35:49] International Rob: now its too late


BitBay dev is the only official representative for bitbay.
David zimbeck and all our coders will keep developing hedging system and decentralized marketplace and someother features.
Here is our new ANN thread, we will not respond in this old thread anymore.


BitBay New Official Thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=890322.0

David zimbeck and all our coders will keep developing hedging system and decentralized marketplace and some other features.
We will also buy bitbay from market to support the price.
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A lot of damage has been done. Hope you people will be able to fix everything before it's too late.
I'm an outsider, not taking anyone's side, but when shit hit the fan, either hold an umbrella or get shit all over you.

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Dump your shitcoins to me, I am waiting for you sub 50 sat Grin
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December 12, 2014, 08:19:24 AM
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[11/28/2014 9:56:33 AM] David Zimbeck: how do we know that they actually bought 500 BTC?
[11/28/2014 9:57:12 AM] cryptosteven: i counted their group members account on bter, they do brought more than 500BTC

So Zimbeck has access to internal BTER accounts through the chinese mobster / new dev   HuhHuh??

what the hell is going on here?

Lin, the other Chinese partner/mobster is the owner of bter, or the ceo or something... why do you think we got bitswift ninja added???  lin is the mastermind behind the phantom btc and fake selloutr volume...


bter are criminals.

So dude what are you gonna buy with those 600+ BTC anyway? Hookers and coke or are you gonna invest?


bought a penthouse in the sky actually!!

600BTC wouldn't buy you a tiny apartment in London.  Property in the sky must be cheap!
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[11/28/2014 9:56:33 AM] David Zimbeck: how do we know that they actually bought 500 BTC?
[11/28/2014 9:57:12 AM] cryptosteven: i counted their group members account on bter, they do brought more than 500BTC

So Zimbeck has access to internal BTER accounts through the chinese mobster / new dev   HuhHuh??

what the hell is going on here?

Lin, the other Chinese partner/mobster is the owner of bter, or the ceo or something... why do you think we got bitswift ninja added???  lin is the mastermind behind the phantom btc and fake selloutr volume...


bter are criminals.

So dude what are you gonna buy with those 600+ BTC anyway? Hookers and coke or are you gonna invest?


bought a penthouse in the sky actually!!

600BTC wouldn't buy you a tiny apartment in London.  Property in the sky must be cheap!

ABOUT 900K here!!! 600 btc will get you a sweet downpayment though!
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Chinese Mobster / new BitBay Dev answer the damn question:

It is now clear that BTer participated in massive fraud, phantom BTC and insider trading AND owns 20% of BAY.

When will BTer make an official statement on this?

Chinese mobsters putting up fake buywalls of phantom BTC will not solve your current situation.
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Chinese Mobster / new BitBay Dev answer the damn question:

It is now clear that BTer participated in massive fraud, phantom BTC and insider trading AND owns 20% of BAY.

When will BTer make an official statement on this?

Chinese mobsters putting up fake buywalls of phantom BTC will not solve your current situation.


i have to say, if you have to do business with mobsters, chinese mobsters seem to be some of the nicest blokes to deal with. They don't seem like they want stab you in the back at the first opportunity at least and they aren't trying to rip you off in "every" possible way like some around here.
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Chinese Mobster / new BitBay Dev answer the damn question:

It is now clear that BTer participated in massive fraud, phantom BTC and insider trading AND owns 20% of BAY.

When will BTer make an official statement on this?

Chinese mobsters putting up fake buywalls of phantom BTC will not solve your current situation.

I trusted BTer for along time so we need statement form them

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Chinese Mobster / new BitBay Dev answer the damn question:

It is now clear that BTer participated in massive fraud, phantom BTC and insider trading AND owns 20% of BAY.

When will BTer make an official statement on this?

Chinese mobsters putting up fake buywalls of phantom BTC will not solve your current situation.

I trusted BTer for along time so we need statement form them

what statement do you want from them??

Here is my chat with lin from bter...


[2014-11-03 3:07:56 AM] linhan.ee: Lin
[2014-11-03 1:38:58 PM] *** International Rob has shared contact details with linhan.ee. ***
[2014-11-05 11:06:03 AM] *** Call to linhan.ee, duration 13:43. ***
[2014-11-11 9:36:33 AM] linhan.ee: Hi bob, would you please let me know your deposit account?
[2014-11-11 9:37:14 AM] International Rob: 13h3WoCnqYAP8cSF4J8bRke59EKNXKCGoK
[2014-11-11 9:37:48 AM] International Rob: Is that what you mean?
[2014-11-11 9:38:01 AM] International Rob: my btc address
[2014-11-11 9:39:31 AM] linhan.ee: got it thanks
[2014-11-11 9:41:10 AM] linhan.ee: one thing concerns me. We promise people to release funds after ICO. If you expose this address with transactions later to people, they will know we release the funds early
[2014-11-11 9:41:29 AM] International Rob: no the address is new and no one will know it
[2014-11-11 9:41:35 AM] linhan.ee: great
[2014-11-11 9:41:48 AM] International Rob: the btc are being used to help pumop the price.. buy more coins and set support as well
[2014-11-11 9:41:58 AM] linhan.ee: so don't expose it
[2014-11-11 9:41:59 AM] International Rob: Its not my first ICO or coin eh
[2014-11-11 9:42:02 AM] International Rob: you do know this
[2014-11-11 9:42:03 AM] International Rob: ?
[2014-11-11 9:42:10 AM] International Rob: I have a few coins under my belt
[2014-11-11 9:42:12 AM] linhan.ee: cool
[2014-11-11 9:42:20 AM] International Rob: ok cool
[2014-11-11 9:42:28 AM] International Rob: Gekko really got a good vibe from you
[2014-11-11 9:42:31 AM] International Rob: by the way
[2014-11-11 9:42:35 AM] International Rob: he is my right hand brother
[2014-11-11 9:42:43 AM] International Rob: what he said is gold
[2014-11-11 9:42:46 AM] International Rob: you are a good man
[2014-11-11 9:43:01 AM] linhan.ee: thanks Smiley
[2014-11-11 9:43:31 AM] linhan.ee: Let me know have much your team has  invested.
[2014-11-11 9:43:40 AM] linhan.ee: I will send you some BTC before I sleep
[2014-11-11 9:44:20 AM] International Rob: ok cool
[2014-11-11 9:44:25 AM] International Rob: it will be over 500 for sure
[2014-11-11 9:44:42 AM] International Rob: we alredy are in for well over 400.... just one guy bought 100
[2014-11-11 9:44:43 AM] International Rob: lol
[2014-11-11 9:45:02 AM] linhan.ee: right. it's really fast
[2014-11-11 9:45:08 AM] linhan.ee: 1 hour 400 btc
[2014-11-11 9:45:11 AM] International Rob: but we have a excel spread sheat and as they buy they add the info to the sheat
[2014-11-11 9:45:20 AM] International Rob: I know
[2014-11-11 9:45:42 AM] International Rob: well you know we have had people waiting with new accounts on bter waiting for this morning
[2014-11-11 9:45:48 AM] International Rob: and this is just the start
[2014-11-11 9:45:57 AM] International Rob: we have not even gone crazy on twitter yet
[2014-11-11 9:46:08 AM] International Rob: we are record breakers
[2014-11-11 9:46:10 AM] linhan.ee: right. it's really impressive
[2014-11-11 9:46:14 AM] International Rob: and this wil be one more record
[2014-11-11 9:47:08 AM] linhan.ee: yes, and we even haven't started to invest ours lol
[2014-11-11 9:48:59 AM] International Rob: lol I know
[2014-11-11 9:49:11 AM] International Rob: that why I told you for sure this would be amazing
[2014-11-11 9:49:33 AM] International Rob: its easy when you do the math right and work with pros
[2014-11-11 9:49:38 AM] International Rob: you my friend are a pro
[2014-11-11 9:49:40 AM] linhan.ee: it's amazing. professional team and good job
[2014-11-11 9:49:43 AM] International Rob: (handshake)
[2014-11-11 9:50:12 AM] linhan.ee: (handshake)
[2014-11-11 9:50:23 AM] International Rob: Thank man
[2014-11-11 9:50:29 AM] International Rob: I enjoy working with you
[2014-11-11 9:50:39 AM] International Rob: I know this project is just the begining
[2014-11-11 9:51:00 AM] linhan.ee: that's right. we can do a lot in the future together
[2014-11-11 9:53:25 AM] International Rob: Im serious though lin... we can take this coi n to the moon all 2015
[2014-11-11 9:53:32 AM] International Rob: I plan on making 1M on it
[2014-11-11 9:54:39 AM] linhan.ee: Right. This is the best coin in the cryto-world near the end of 2014
[2014-11-11 9:57:09 AM] International Rob: yeas and it will be the clear leader for 2015
[2014-11-11 10:12:06 AM] linhan.ee: 0.01btc has been sent to your address, txid= ac0b1a00de78a488e2fa202959dc6d6dda070d6cdc44a2a63a4183ea77446906
[2014-11-11 10:12:19 AM] linhan.ee: when you received it, please let me know
[2014-11-11 10:17:53 AM] International Rob: got it
[2014-11-11 10:19:00 AM | Edited 10:19:04 AM] linhan.ee: great
[2014-11-11 10:19:14 AM] linhan.ee: sending  500
[2014-11-11 10:19:32 AM] International Rob: ok will comnfirm
[2014-11-11 10:20:47 AM] linhan.ee: 500 in 3 transactions:
[2014-11-11 10:20:47 AM] linhan.ee: 0ecfe52a2c9a6913a81ef82c09c47a27d5867b95b9abc73bbbd51d2a65ba4819
[2014-11-11 10:20:56 AM] linhan.ee: e786e93003c29f261189b813cafe2fd4bcac1c937128781988378622a83929d8
[2014-11-11 10:21:01 AM] International Rob: wow
[2014-11-11 10:21:03 AM] linhan.ee: 80053c4138dd8a5d4cda1cc5cefa86bf3e1fd5b9bd6a181e74ac5af4740542cf
[2014-11-11 10:21:03 AM] International Rob: that was fast
[2014-11-11 10:21:05 AM] International Rob: got them
[2014-11-11 10:21:07 AM] International Rob: thank you
[2014-11-11 10:21:15 AM] International Rob: I will get some support put up shortly
[2014-11-11 10:22:00 AM] linhan.ee: great. it's from BTER's wallet. so please transafer it to some addresses else in case you need to expose the funds
[2014-11-11 10:22:23 AM] linhan.ee: otherwise, people can trace it
[2014-11-11 10:25:17 AM] International Rob: ok no worries
[2014-11-11 10:25:20 AM] International Rob: I am good with that
[2014-11-11 10:25:30 AM] linhan.ee: cool
[2014-11-14 10:53:51 PM] International Rob: Good morning Lin, are you around?
[2014-11-14 10:54:00 PM] linhan.ee: yes
[2014-11-14 10:54:07 PM] International Rob: ohh sweet
[2014-11-14 10:54:14 PM] linhan.ee: i am working on the new codes of bitbay
[2014-11-14 10:54:15 PM] International Rob: been a hectic week eh
[2014-11-14 10:55:00 PM] International Rob: I was wondering if you can send me my portion of the coins now.. I am leaving for a flight in 10 hours and would like to have that taken care of before I need to go to sleep
[2014-11-14 10:55:11 PM] International Rob: By my math there should be around 180 btc per person right now
[2014-11-14 10:55:42 PM] International Rob: if you can send me the 180 now then as soon as I lan in the domician I can get started with my group to get the pump going
[2014-11-14 10:56:08 PM] linhan.ee: Sorry man, I cannot do that until Steven figures out how to release the funds
[2014-11-14 10:56:21 PM | Edited 10:56:27 PM] linhan.ee: He is discussing this with the other partners
[2014-11-14 10:56:25 PM] International Rob: i was just talking with them about that
[2014-11-14 10:56:33 PM] International Rob: we are just gonna send each partner their stack
[2014-11-14 10:56:36 PM] linhan.ee: yes, don't worry the funds are safe
[2014-11-14 10:56:53 PM] International Rob: and once everyone gets paid and the new wallet is out we will set up an account with multisig for the dev funds
[2014-11-14 10:56:59 PM] International Rob: im not worried
[2014-11-14 10:57:12 PM] International Rob: I just like to know that when I land i wil have the btc available to work with
[2014-11-14 10:58:18 PM | Edited 10:58:32 PM] linhan.ee: please leave me an address and I can take care of it when Steven finishes the funds distribution plan
[2014-11-14 10:58:18 PM] International Rob: i have asked steven to advise you that its ol
[2014-11-14 11:00:25 PM] linhan.ee: OK. I am talking with him
[2014-11-14 11:01:54 PM] International Rob: ok cool
[2014-11-14 11:02:33 PM] International Rob: i hope you don't think i don't trust you or anything.. its not that.. its just with the time barrier between us i want to make sure everything is correct and in place prior to leaving to catch the flight
[2014-11-14 11:42:16 PM] linhan.ee: please confirm your receiving address to me
[2014-11-14 11:42:40 PM] linhan.ee: i don't want to make any mistake on big funds
[2014-11-14 11:43:12 PM] International Rob: 1AHWM2m8Hhq2pGcbKoWLkQD3fa7xu3su9s
[2014-11-14 11:43:27 PM] linhan.ee: confirmed. thanks
[2014-11-14 11:43:32 PM] International Rob: Thank you
[2014-11-14 11:43:58 PM] International Rob: we will launch the market at nov 15th at 5 PM EST.. Ney York time?
[2014-11-14 11:45:16 PM] linhan.ee: Steven said we will wait until you're ready before we open the market
[2014-11-14 11:45:25 PM] International Rob: if that is possible
[2014-11-14 11:45:36 PM] International Rob: I wil be ready at 5pm EST on the 15th....
[2014-11-14 11:45:44 PM] International Rob: Provided my flight lands on time
[2014-11-14 11:45:49 PM] International Rob: I land at 2PM est
[2014-11-14 11:46:05 PM] International Rob: so that gives me 3 hours to prepare and get from airport to hotel ect
[2014-11-14 11:46:50 PM] International Rob: Please confirm when sent..
[2014-11-14 11:46:51 PM] International Rob: TY
[2014-11-14 11:47:51 PM] linhan.ee: 170 btc sent
[2014-11-14 11:48:46 PM] International Rob: Recived.. please let the transaction brodcastr
[2014-11-14 11:48:59 PM] linhan.ee: sure
[2014-11-14 11:49:04 PM] International Rob: lol
[2014-11-14 11:49:17 PM] International Rob: so we will launch at nov 15th at 5pm EST
[2014-11-14 11:49:18 PM] International Rob: ?
[2014-11-14 11:49:54 PM] linhan.ee: let me check the time in my time zoon
[2014-11-14 11:50:17 PM] International Rob: ok
[2014-11-14 11:50:23 PM] International Rob: it is NewYork time 5PM
[2014-11-14 11:50:29 PM] International Rob: Same as London Ontario
[2014-11-14 11:50:31 PM] International Rob: Tongue
[2014-11-14 11:51:44 PM] linhan.ee: so it's 22:00pm GMT on 15th
[2014-11-14 11:51:57 PM] International Rob: when was the ico supposed to end
[2014-11-14 11:52:02 PM] International Rob: at 1300 correct
[2014-11-14 11:52:11 PM] linhan.ee: 13:00 GMT on 15th
[2014-11-14 11:52:15 PM] International Rob: ok perfect
[2014-11-14 11:52:15 PM] linhan.ee: correct
[2014-11-14 11:52:57 PM] linhan.ee: Yes, I can set up the market opening time to 22:00pm GMT on 15th
[2014-11-14 11:53:26 PM] linhan.ee: but we'd better give you more time
[2014-11-14 11:53:37 PM] International Rob: you think 3 hours should be enough
[2014-11-14 11:53:38 PM] linhan.ee: to make sure you're ready before the market open
[2014-11-14 11:54:23 PM] linhan.ee: As we discussed when Gekko was here in Shanhai, we want the price to be pumped to a certain level above ICO price when the market is open
[2014-11-14 11:54:45 PM] International Rob: I was thinking that we pump and hold above 500 sat for the first week
[2014-11-14 11:54:52 PM] International Rob: try to keep it steady there
[2014-11-14 11:55:07 PM] International Rob: then when we release the new wallet with the smart contracts then we do a big push
[2014-11-14 11:55:17 PM] linhan.ee: yes, let the wallet release at the same time so that you can pump it easily
[2014-11-14 11:55:25 PM] linhan.ee: ok
[2014-11-14 11:55:31 PM] linhan.ee: that's also a good plan
[2014-11-14 11:55:42 PM] International Rob: Well we need tech to pump hard
[2014-11-14 11:55:43 PM] linhan.ee: you can also let me hold the market until the wallet is released
[2014-11-14 11:55:44 PM] linhan.ee: all on you
[2014-11-14 11:56:05 PM] International Rob: we can pump a bit on the ico ending, but the real money will cme in with the multicoin wallet with smart contracts
[2014-11-14 11:56:16 PM] International Rob: then the next major pump will be on the marketplace in december
[2014-11-14 11:56:31 PM] International Rob: no we cant hold the market too long
[2014-11-14 11:57:02 PM] linhan.ee: ok, no problem
[2014-11-14 11:57:11 PM] International Rob: i think that our plan to open at 5 tomorrow is fine and will be great
[2014-11-14 11:57:29 PM] linhan.ee: if 22pm gmt 15th is good for you, you can release the news
[2014-11-14 11:57:56 PM] International Rob: yes gecko is making the post now
[2014-11-14 11:57:59 PM] International Rob: then we wil tweet it
[2014-11-14 11:58:05 PM] International Rob: and everyone wil be ready for the market to open
[2014-11-14 11:59:52 PM] linhan.ee: ok, i have to go for food.  have a good trip
[2014-11-15 12:00:21 AM] International Rob: ok thank you
[2014-11-15 12:00:26 AM] International Rob: i will tal to you tomorrow afternoon
[2014-11-15 12:00:35 AM] International Rob: you will be around for the pump?
[2014-11-15 12:00:51 AM] linhan.ee: yes i will
[2014-11-15 12:01:09 AM] linhan.ee: no maybe not i will check my schedule
[2014-11-15 12:01:21 AM] linhan.ee: i have a meeting on the same day
[2014-11-15 12:01:25 AM] International Rob: ok well i have set aside 12 hours to pump
[2014-11-15 12:01:30 AM] International Rob: and gecko will also be here
[2014-11-15 12:01:35 AM] International Rob: and so will my team
[2014-11-15 12:01:42 AM] International Rob: they will know the plan
[2014-11-15 12:01:46 AM] International Rob: i am letting them all know now
[2014-11-17 1:50:08 AM] International Rob: lin
[2014-11-17 1:50:11 AM] International Rob: can we talk?
[2014-11-17 1:50:15 AM] International Rob: can I call you on skype
[2014-11-17 1:50:16 AM] International Rob: ?
[2014-12-06 10:49:03 AM] International Rob: why did you leave the chat?
[2014-12-06 10:52:28 AM] linhan.ee: it's useless to work in that style. i don't blame steven but it's a horrible management of the project
[2014-12-06 10:52:43 AM] International Rob: I agree
[2014-12-06 10:52:46 AM] International Rob: the management sucks
[2014-12-06 10:52:58 AM] International Rob: but gecko has been trying for weeks to get steven doing what he needs to
[2014-12-06 10:53:02 AM] International Rob: I like steven
[2014-12-06 10:53:09 AM] International Rob: but david is a pure liar
[2014-12-06 10:53:29 AM] linhan.ee: steven asked me to get gekko back to work together today on the release
[2014-12-06 10:53:58 AM] linhan.ee: i almost begged gekko to work on the marketing since we are releasing the new wallet
[2014-12-06 10:54:04 AM] linhan.ee: but he refused to do so
[2014-12-06 10:54:15 AM] linhan.ee: i respect his decision
[2014-12-06 10:54:33 AM] International Rob: well hes pissed
[2014-12-06 10:54:53 AM] International Rob: he hates thjat david is a partner and on the forums all hes talking about is using the ico money to help blackcoin
[2014-12-06 10:54:59 AM] International Rob: and that we just bought the tech from him
[2014-12-06 10:55:06 AM] International Rob: that's not the deal we had agreed too
[2014-12-06 10:55:07 AM] International Rob: also
[2014-12-06 10:55:22 AM] International Rob: you guys gave david a fair cut as if he also put in 500 btc in the begining
[2014-12-06 10:55:24 AM] International Rob: that was us
[2014-12-06 10:55:30 AM] International Rob: you and I and steven and gekko
[2014-12-06 10:55:34 AM] International Rob: so only we get that money back
[2014-12-06 10:55:46 AM] International Rob: but somehow he got cut in on money we put out
[2014-12-06 10:55:50 AM] linhan.ee: i talked with gekko on the same issue
[2014-12-06 10:55:51 AM] International Rob: its a little ass backwards
[2014-12-06 10:56:09 AM] linhan.ee: the thing is that the money is out and we cannot get it back
[2014-12-06 10:56:21 AM] linhan.ee: we cannot go back to the beginning and reorgnize the whole thing
[2014-12-06 10:56:45 AM] linhan.ee: however, we are still very positive about this project
[2014-12-06 10:57:07 AM] International Rob: I agree
[2014-12-06 10:57:07 AM] linhan.ee: I promised steven to put more human resources on this project
[2014-12-06 10:57:16 AM] International Rob: im still on this bro
[2014-12-06 10:57:23 AM] International Rob: I have 40 people holdmg bay
[2014-12-06 10:57:25 AM] International Rob: waiting to pump
[2014-12-06 10:57:29 AM] International Rob: waiting to make moves
[2014-12-06 10:57:35 AM] International Rob: steven said he would get a pump going with me
[2014-12-06 10:57:42 AM] International Rob: I will handle bittrex and him for bter
[2014-12-06 10:57:48 AM] linhan.ee: thanks it's really nice to hear that from you
[2014-12-06 10:58:32 AM] linhan.ee: it's really good to both of us if we work together
[2014-12-06 10:58:39 AM] linhan.ee: we can make much much more on it
[2014-12-06 10:58:47 AM] International Rob: bro I like you gus
[2014-12-06 10:58:47 AM] linhan.ee: this is a very good project by itself
[2014-12-06 10:59:07 AM] International Rob: as much as we have had our problems... I am still a team member with a vested interest in seeing bay go to the moon
[2014-12-06 10:59:17 AM] International Rob: i just cant work with david anymore
[2014-12-06 10:59:26 AM] International Rob: stseven and you are gonna have to be his handler
[2014-12-06 10:59:27 AM] International Rob: lol
[2014-12-06 10:59:27 AM] linhan.ee: it will definitely go to the moon
[2014-12-06 10:59:48 AM] linhan.ee: yes, i know
[2014-12-06 11:00:05 AM] linhan.ee: i suggested steven to work it out in another way
[2014-12-06 11:00:17 AM] linhan.ee: as you know david got paid a lot
[2014-12-06 11:00:22 AM] linhan.ee: don't lose the money
[2014-12-06 11:00:34 AM] linhan.ee: let him do what he can do
[2014-12-06 11:00:40 AM] linhan.ee: and we do our best on this project too
[2014-12-06 11:00:46 AM] linhan.ee: but don't work in the old ways
[2014-12-06 11:01:28 AM] International Rob: i agree
[2014-12-06 11:01:37 AM] International Rob: i think what we need is a project mamnager
[2014-12-06 11:01:40 AM] International Rob: maybe not steven
[2014-12-06 11:01:46 AM] International Rob: who can contact all the players
[2014-12-06 11:01:49 AM] International Rob: and be the go to guy
[2014-12-06 11:01:54 AM] International Rob: the one that everyone likes
[2014-12-06 11:03:50 AM] linhan.ee: i know you and gekko are very angry with david. but objectively, he got paid we cannot get the money back. if he contributes on the dev work, why not let him do so.
[2014-12-06 11:03:51 AM] linhan.ee: right
[2014-12-06 11:04:22 AM] linhan.ee: but right now, steven is the only right person can do so. I am too busy to manage this project to I am going to help steven
[2014-12-06 11:04:36 AM] linhan.ee: also on the dev work
[2014-12-06 11:04:55 AM] linhan.ee: I will assign two coders to work on it
[2014-12-06 11:05:05 AM] International Rob: i know
[2014-12-06 11:05:06 AM] International Rob: anyway
[2014-12-06 11:05:09 AM] International Rob: that is in the past
[2014-12-06 11:05:14 AM] International Rob: lets mnove forward and make money
[2014-12-06 11:05:18 AM] linhan.ee: that's right
[2014-12-06 11:05:20 AM] International Rob: now i am talking to steven
[2014-12-06 11:05:23 AM] International Rob: i wil be right bakc
[2014-12-06 11:05:28 AM] linhan.ee: great
[2014-12-06 11:05:36 AM] linhan.ee: i am really glad to see this
[2014-12-06 11:06:31 AM] linhan.ee: I will let my guys report to steven on the UI design and dev work. steven will communicate with you on pump and marketing etc.
[2014-12-06 11:06:49 AM] linhan.ee: so we move forward together and we can make much more
[2014-12-06 11:20:40 AM] International Rob: we are moving forward together
[2014-12-06 11:21:04 AM] International Rob: starting tomoroow steven and i wil start placing support and slowly bring the price back up over 300 sat
[2014-12-06 11:21:34 AM] linhan.ee: great. it's a good chance.
[2014-12-06 11:21:58 AM] linhan.ee: i am so glad to hear this. you are professional
[2014-12-06 11:23:54 AM] International Rob: i know sometime i act crazy... and its cause of the weed i smoke\
[2014-12-06 11:24:03 AM] International Rob: but when itr comes to business its serious
[2014-12-08 1:25:15 PM] International Rob: hi lin
[2014-12-08 1:25:18 PM] International Rob: are you awake?
[9:19:09 PM] International Rob: Lin bro
[9:19:12 PM] International Rob: we have some problems
[9:19:22 PM] International Rob: we need to dump the price and pick up all the coins for cheap
[9:19:26 PM] International Rob: are you here
[9:19:26 PM] International Rob: ?

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December 12, 2014, 08:42:40 AM
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Bter has sent back all Bitbay ICO money to bitbay dev. Bter will not save or keep money for bitbay anymore.

and we will keep buying bitbay to support the price.

also we will keep developing hedging system and decentralized marketplace for Bitbay.

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December 12, 2014, 08:49:06 AM
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Chinese Mobster / new BitBay Dev answer the damn question:

It is now clear that BTer participated in massive fraud, phantom BTC and insider trading AND owns 20% of BAY.

When will BTer make an official statement on this?

Chinese mobsters putting up fake buywalls of phantom BTC will not solve your current situation.

I trusted BTer for along time so we need statement form them

what statement do you want from them??

Here is my chat with lin from bter...

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[2014-11-11 10:19:14 AM] linhan.ee: sending  500
[2014-11-11 10:19:32 AM] International Rob: ok will comnfirm
[2014-11-11 10:20:47 AM] linhan.ee: 500 in 3 transactions:
[2014-11-11 10:20:47 AM] linhan.ee: 0ecfe52a2c9a6913a81ef82c09c47a27d5867b95b9abc73bbbd51d2a65ba4819
[2014-11-11 10:20:56 AM] linhan.ee: e786e93003c29f261189b813cafe2fd4bcac1c937128781988378622a83929d8
[2014-11-11 10:21:01 AM] International Rob: wow
[2014-11-11 10:21:03 AM] linhan.ee: 80053c4138dd8a5d4cda1cc5cefa86bf3e1fd5b9bd6a181e74ac5af4740542cf
[2014-11-11 10:21:03 AM] International Rob: that was fast
[2014-11-11 10:21:05 AM] International Rob: got them
[2014-11-11 10:21:07 AM] International Rob: thank you
[2014-11-11 10:21:15 AM] International Rob: I will get some support put up shortly
[2014-11-11 10:22:00 AM] linhan.ee: great. it's from BTER's wallet. so please transafer it to some addresses else in case you need to expose the funds
[2014-11-11 10:22:23 AM] linhan.ee: otherwise, people can trace it
[2014-11-11 10:25:17 AM] International Rob: ok no worries
[2014-11-11 10:25:20 AM] International Rob: I am good with that

[2014-11-11 10:25:30 AM] linhan.ee: cool
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youre one of the dumbest creatures i ever met. calls bter scammers, liars and so on but does the same obscure scheme by recieving the coins. a bucket full of shit has more charakter than you.
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December 12, 2014, 08:53:06 AM
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Also bob are controlling the old bitbay thread Password. we will not respond anything in that old thread.
no matter what happened, we will keep focus on developing staff.

Some people were paid to FUDs this, just choose the button: ignore.

Thanks for your support.

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WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO TELL ME WHAT THE FUCKING HELL IS GOING ON?HuhHuhHuh

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WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO TELL ME WHAT THE FUCKING HELL IS GOING ON?HuhHuhHuh


[2014-11-03 3:07:56 AM] linhan.ee: Lin
[2014-11-03 1:38:58 PM] *** International Rob has shared contact details with linhan.ee. ***
[2014-11-05 11:06:03 AM] *** Call to linhan.ee, duration 13:43. ***
[2014-11-11 9:36:33 AM] linhan.ee: Hi bob, would you please let me know your deposit account?
[2014-11-11 9:37:14 AM] International Rob: 13h3WoCnqYAP8cSF4J8bRke59EKNXKCGoK
[2014-11-11 9:37:48 AM] International Rob: Is that what you mean?
[2014-11-11 9:38:01 AM] International Rob: my btc address
[2014-11-11 9:39:31 AM] linhan.ee: got it thanks
[2014-11-11 9:41:10 AM] linhan.ee: one thing concerns me. We promise people to release funds after ICO. If you expose this address with transactions later to people, they will know we release the funds early
[2014-11-11 9:41:29 AM] International Rob: no the address is new and no one will know it
[2014-11-11 9:41:35 AM] linhan.ee: great
[2014-11-11 9:41:48 AM] International Rob: the btc are being used to help pumop the price.. buy more coins and set support as well
[2014-11-11 9:41:58 AM] linhan.ee: so don't expose it
[2014-11-11 9:41:59 AM] International Rob: Its not my first ICO or coin eh
[2014-11-11 9:42:02 AM] International Rob: you do know this
[2014-11-11 9:42:03 AM] International Rob: ?
[2014-11-11 9:42:10 AM] International Rob: I have a few coins under my belt
[2014-11-11 9:42:12 AM] linhan.ee: cool
[2014-11-11 9:42:20 AM] International Rob: ok cool
[2014-11-11 9:42:28 AM] International Rob: Gekko really got a good vibe from you
[2014-11-11 9:42:31 AM] International Rob: by the way
[2014-11-11 9:42:35 AM] International Rob: he is my right hand brother
[2014-11-11 9:42:43 AM] International Rob: what he said is gold
[2014-11-11 9:42:46 AM] International Rob: you are a good man
[2014-11-11 9:43:01 AM] linhan.ee: thanks Smiley
[2014-11-11 9:43:31 AM] linhan.ee: Let me know have much your team has  invested.
[2014-11-11 9:43:40 AM] linhan.ee: I will send you some BTC before I sleep
[2014-11-11 9:44:20 AM] International Rob: ok cool
[2014-11-11 9:44:25 AM] International Rob: it will be over 500 for sure
[2014-11-11 9:44:42 AM] International Rob: we alredy are in for well over 400.... just one guy bought 100
[2014-11-11 9:44:43 AM] International Rob: lol
[2014-11-11 9:45:02 AM] linhan.ee: right. it's really fast
[2014-11-11 9:45:08 AM] linhan.ee: 1 hour 400 btc
[2014-11-11 9:45:11 AM] International Rob: but we have a excel spread sheat and as they buy they add the info to the sheat
[2014-11-11 9:45:20 AM] International Rob: I know
[2014-11-11 9:45:42 AM] International Rob: well you know we have had people waiting with new accounts on bter waiting for this morning
[2014-11-11 9:45:48 AM] International Rob: and this is just the start
[2014-11-11 9:45:57 AM] International Rob: we have not even gone crazy on twitter yet
[2014-11-11 9:46:08 AM] International Rob: we are record breakers
[2014-11-11 9:46:10 AM] linhan.ee: right. it's really impressive
[2014-11-11 9:46:14 AM] International Rob: and this wil be one more record
[2014-11-11 9:47:08 AM] linhan.ee: yes, and we even haven't started to invest ours lol
[2014-11-11 9:48:59 AM] International Rob: lol I know
[2014-11-11 9:49:11 AM] International Rob: that why I told you for sure this would be amazing
[2014-11-11 9:49:33 AM] International Rob: its easy when you do the math right and work with pros
[2014-11-11 9:49:38 AM] International Rob: you my friend are a pro
[2014-11-11 9:49:40 AM] linhan.ee: it's amazing. professional team and good job
[2014-11-11 9:49:43 AM] International Rob: (handshake)
[2014-11-11 9:50:12 AM] linhan.ee: (handshake)
[2014-11-11 9:50:23 AM] International Rob: Thank man
[2014-11-11 9:50:29 AM] International Rob: I enjoy working with you
[2014-11-11 9:50:39 AM] International Rob: I know this project is just the begining
[2014-11-11 9:51:00 AM] linhan.ee: that's right. we can do a lot in the future together
[2014-11-11 9:53:25 AM] International Rob: Im serious though lin... we can take this coi n to the moon all 2015
[2014-11-11 9:53:32 AM] International Rob: I plan on making 1M on it
[2014-11-11 9:54:39 AM] linhan.ee: Right. This is the best coin in the cryto-world near the end of 2014
[2014-11-11 9:57:09 AM] International Rob: yeas and it will be the clear leader for 2015
[2014-11-11 10:12:06 AM] linhan.ee: 0.01btc has been sent to your address, txid= ac0b1a00de78a488e2fa202959dc6d6dda070d6cdc44a2a63a4183ea77446906
[2014-11-11 10:12:19 AM] linhan.ee: when you received it, please let me know
[2014-11-11 10:17:53 AM] International Rob: got it
[2014-11-11 10:19:00 AM | Edited 10:19:04 AM] linhan.ee: great
[2014-11-11 10:19:14 AM] linhan.ee: sending  500
[2014-11-11 10:19:32 AM] International Rob: ok will comnfirm
[2014-11-11 10:20:47 AM] linhan.ee: 500 in 3 transactions:
[2014-11-11 10:20:47 AM] linhan.ee: 0ecfe52a2c9a6913a81ef82c09c47a27d5867b95b9abc73bbbd51d2a65ba4819
[2014-11-11 10:20:56 AM] linhan.ee: e786e93003c29f261189b813cafe2fd4bcac1c937128781988378622a83929d8
[2014-11-11 10:21:01 AM] International Rob: wow
[2014-11-11 10:21:03 AM] linhan.ee: 80053c4138dd8a5d4cda1cc5cefa86bf3e1fd5b9bd6a181e74ac5af4740542cf
[2014-11-11 10:21:03 AM] International Rob: that was fast
[2014-11-11 10:21:05 AM] International Rob: got them
[2014-11-11 10:21:07 AM] International Rob: thank you
[2014-11-11 10:21:15 AM] International Rob: I will get some support put up shortly
[2014-11-11 10:22:00 AM] linhan.ee: great. it's from BTER's wallet. so please transafer it to some addresses else in case you need to expose the funds
[2014-11-11 10:22:23 AM] linhan.ee: otherwise, people can trace it
[2014-11-11 10:25:17 AM] International Rob: ok no worries
[2014-11-11 10:25:20 AM] International Rob: I am good with that
[2014-11-11 10:25:30 AM] linhan.ee: cool
[2014-11-14 10:53:51 PM] International Rob: Good morning Lin, are you around?
[2014-11-14 10:54:00 PM] linhan.ee: yes
[2014-11-14 10:54:07 PM] International Rob: ohh sweet
[2014-11-14 10:54:14 PM] linhan.ee: i am working on the new codes of bitbay
[2014-11-14 10:54:15 PM] International Rob: been a hectic week eh
[2014-11-14 10:55:00 PM] International Rob: I was wondering if you can send me my portion of the coins now.. I am leaving for a flight in 10 hours and would like to have that taken care of before I need to go to sleep
[2014-11-14 10:55:11 PM] International Rob: By my math there should be around 180 btc per person right now
[2014-11-14 10:55:42 PM] International Rob: if you can send me the 180 now then as soon as I lan in the domician I can get started with my group to get the pump going
[2014-11-14 10:56:08 PM] linhan.ee: Sorry man, I cannot do that until Steven figures out how to release the funds
[2014-11-14 10:56:21 PM | Edited 10:56:27 PM] linhan.ee: He is discussing this with the other partners
[2014-11-14 10:56:25 PM] International Rob: i was just talking with them about that
[2014-11-14 10:56:33 PM] International Rob: we are just gonna send each partner their stack
[2014-11-14 10:56:36 PM] linhan.ee: yes, don't worry the funds are safe
[2014-11-14 10:56:53 PM] International Rob: and once everyone gets paid and the new wallet is out we will set up an account with multisig for the dev funds
[2014-11-14 10:56:59 PM] International Rob: im not worried
[2014-11-14 10:57:12 PM] International Rob: I just like to know that when I land i wil have the btc available to work with
[2014-11-14 10:58:18 PM | Edited 10:58:32 PM] linhan.ee: please leave me an address and I can take care of it when Steven finishes the funds distribution plan
[2014-11-14 10:58:18 PM] International Rob: i have asked steven to advise you that its ol
[2014-11-14 11:00:25 PM] linhan.ee: OK. I am talking with him
[2014-11-14 11:01:54 PM] International Rob: ok cool
[2014-11-14 11:02:33 PM] International Rob: i hope you don't think i don't trust you or anything.. its not that.. its just with the time barrier between us i want to make sure everything is correct and in place prior to leaving to catch the flight
[2014-11-14 11:42:16 PM] linhan.ee: please confirm your receiving address to me
[2014-11-14 11:42:40 PM] linhan.ee: i don't want to make any mistake on big funds
[2014-11-14 11:43:12 PM] International Rob: 1AHWM2m8Hhq2pGcbKoWLkQD3fa7xu3su9s
[2014-11-14 11:43:27 PM] linhan.ee: confirmed. thanks
[2014-11-14 11:43:32 PM] International Rob: Thank you
[2014-11-14 11:43:58 PM] International Rob: we will launch the market at nov 15th at 5 PM EST.. Ney York time?
[2014-11-14 11:45:16 PM] linhan.ee: Steven said we will wait until you're ready before we open the market
[2014-11-14 11:45:25 PM] International Rob: if that is possible
[2014-11-14 11:45:36 PM] International Rob: I wil be ready at 5pm EST on the 15th....
[2014-11-14 11:45:44 PM] International Rob: Provided my flight lands on time
[2014-11-14 11:45:49 PM] International Rob: I land at 2PM est
[2014-11-14 11:46:05 PM] International Rob: so that gives me 3 hours to prepare and get from airport to hotel ect
[2014-11-14 11:46:50 PM] International Rob: Please confirm when sent..
[2014-11-14 11:46:51 PM] International Rob: TY
[2014-11-14 11:47:51 PM] linhan.ee: 170 btc sent
[2014-11-14 11:48:46 PM] International Rob: Recived.. please let the transaction brodcastr
[2014-11-14 11:48:59 PM] linhan.ee: sure
[2014-11-14 11:49:04 PM] International Rob: lol
[2014-11-14 11:49:17 PM] International Rob: so we will launch at nov 15th at 5pm EST
[2014-11-14 11:49:18 PM] International Rob: ?
[2014-11-14 11:49:54 PM] linhan.ee: let me check the time in my time zoon
[2014-11-14 11:50:17 PM] International Rob: ok
[2014-11-14 11:50:23 PM] International Rob: it is NewYork time 5PM
[2014-11-14 11:50:29 PM] International Rob: Same as London Ontario
[2014-11-14 11:50:31 PM] International Rob: Tongue
[2014-11-14 11:51:44 PM] linhan.ee: so it's 22:00pm GMT on 15th
[2014-11-14 11:51:57 PM] International Rob: when was the ico supposed to end
[2014-11-14 11:52:02 PM] International Rob: at 1300 correct
[2014-11-14 11:52:11 PM] linhan.ee: 13:00 GMT on 15th
[2014-11-14 11:52:15 PM] International Rob: ok perfect
[2014-11-14 11:52:15 PM] linhan.ee: correct
[2014-11-14 11:52:57 PM] linhan.ee: Yes, I can set up the market opening time to 22:00pm GMT on 15th
[2014-11-14 11:53:26 PM] linhan.ee: but we'd better give you more time
[2014-11-14 11:53:37 PM] International Rob: you think 3 hours should be enough
[2014-11-14 11:53:38 PM] linhan.ee: to make sure you're ready before the market open
[2014-11-14 11:54:23 PM] linhan.ee: As we discussed when Gekko was here in Shanhai, we want the price to be pumped to a certain level above ICO price when the market is open
[2014-11-14 11:54:45 PM] International Rob: I was thinking that we pump and hold above 500 sat for the first week
[2014-11-14 11:54:52 PM] International Rob: try to keep it steady there
[2014-11-14 11:55:07 PM] International Rob: then when we release the new wallet with the smart contracts then we do a big push
[2014-11-14 11:55:17 PM] linhan.ee: yes, let the wallet release at the same time so that you can pump it easily
[2014-11-14 11:55:25 PM] linhan.ee: ok
[2014-11-14 11:55:31 PM] linhan.ee: that's also a good plan
[2014-11-14 11:55:42 PM] International Rob: Well we need tech to pump hard
[2014-11-14 11:55:43 PM] linhan.ee: you can also let me hold the market until the wallet is released
[2014-11-14 11:55:44 PM] linhan.ee: all on you
[2014-11-14 11:56:05 PM] International Rob: we can pump a bit on the ico ending, but the real money will cme in with the multicoin wallet with smart contracts
[2014-11-14 11:56:16 PM] International Rob: then the next major pump will be on the marketplace in december
[2014-11-14 11:56:31 PM] International Rob: no we cant hold the market too long
[2014-11-14 11:57:02 PM] linhan.ee: ok, no problem
[2014-11-14 11:57:11 PM] International Rob: i think that our plan to open at 5 tomorrow is fine and will be great
[2014-11-14 11:57:29 PM] linhan.ee: if 22pm gmt 15th is good for you, you can release the news
[2014-11-14 11:57:56 PM] International Rob: yes gecko is making the post now
[2014-11-14 11:57:59 PM] International Rob: then we wil tweet it
[2014-11-14 11:58:05 PM] International Rob: and everyone wil be ready for the market to open
[2014-11-14 11:59:52 PM] linhan.ee: ok, i have to go for food.  have a good trip
[2014-11-15 12:00:21 AM] International Rob: ok thank you
[2014-11-15 12:00:26 AM] International Rob: i will tal to you tomorrow afternoon
[2014-11-15 12:00:35 AM] International Rob: you will be around for the pump?
[2014-11-15 12:00:51 AM] linhan.ee: yes i will
[2014-11-15 12:01:09 AM] linhan.ee: no maybe not i will check my schedule
[2014-11-15 12:01:21 AM] linhan.ee: i have a meeting on the same day
[2014-11-15 12:01:25 AM] International Rob: ok well i have set aside 12 hours to pump
[2014-11-15 12:01:30 AM] International Rob: and gecko will also be here
[2014-11-15 12:01:35 AM] International Rob: and so will my team
[2014-11-15 12:01:42 AM] International Rob: they will know the plan
[2014-11-15 12:01:46 AM] International Rob: i am letting them all know now
[2014-11-17 1:50:08 AM] International Rob: lin
[2014-11-17 1:50:11 AM] International Rob: can we talk?
[2014-11-17 1:50:15 AM] International Rob: can I call you on skype
[2014-11-17 1:50:16 AM] International Rob: ?
[2014-12-06 10:49:03 AM] International Rob: why did you leave the chat?
[2014-12-06 10:52:28 AM] linhan.ee: it's useless to work in that style. i don't blame steven but it's a horrible management of the project
[2014-12-06 10:52:43 AM] International Rob: I agree
[2014-12-06 10:52:46 AM] International Rob: the management sucks
[2014-12-06 10:52:58 AM] International Rob: but gecko has been trying for weeks to get steven doing what he needs to
[2014-12-06 10:53:02 AM] International Rob: I like steven
[2014-12-06 10:53:09 AM] International Rob: but david is a pure liar
[2014-12-06 10:53:29 AM] linhan.ee: steven asked me to get gekko back to work together today on the release
[2014-12-06 10:53:58 AM] linhan.ee: i almost begged gekko to work on the marketing since we are releasing the new wallet
[2014-12-06 10:54:04 AM] linhan.ee: but he refused to do so
[2014-12-06 10:54:15 AM] linhan.ee: i respect his decision
[2014-12-06 10:54:33 AM] International Rob: well hes pissed
[2014-12-06 10:54:53 AM] International Rob: he hates thjat david is a partner and on the forums all hes talking about is using the ico money to help blackcoin
[2014-12-06 10:54:59 AM] International Rob: and that we just bought the tech from him
[2014-12-06 10:55:06 AM] International Rob: that's not the deal we had agreed too
[2014-12-06 10:55:07 AM] International Rob: also
[2014-12-06 10:55:22 AM] International Rob: you guys gave david a fair cut as if he also put in 500 btc in the begining
[2014-12-06 10:55:24 AM] International Rob: that was us
[2014-12-06 10:55:30 AM] International Rob: you and I and steven and gekko
[2014-12-06 10:55:34 AM] International Rob: so only we get that money back
[2014-12-06 10:55:46 AM] International Rob: but somehow he got cut in on money we put out
[2014-12-06 10:55:50 AM] linhan.ee: i talked with gekko on the same issue
[2014-12-06 10:55:51 AM] International Rob: its a little ass backwards
[2014-12-06 10:56:09 AM] linhan.ee: the thing is that the money is out and we cannot get it back
[2014-12-06 10:56:21 AM] linhan.ee: we cannot go back to the beginning and reorgnize the whole thing
[2014-12-06 10:56:45 AM] linhan.ee: however, we are still very positive about this project
[2014-12-06 10:57:07 AM] International Rob: I agree
[2014-12-06 10:57:07 AM] linhan.ee: I promised steven to put more human resources on this project
[2014-12-06 10:57:16 AM] International Rob: im still on this bro
[2014-12-06 10:57:23 AM] International Rob: I have 40 people holdmg bay
[2014-12-06 10:57:25 AM] International Rob: waiting to pump
[2014-12-06 10:57:29 AM] International Rob: waiting to make moves
[2014-12-06 10:57:35 AM] International Rob: steven said he would get a pump going with me
[2014-12-06 10:57:42 AM] International Rob: I will handle bittrex and him for bter
[2014-12-06 10:57:48 AM] linhan.ee: thanks it's really nice to hear that from you
[2014-12-06 10:58:32 AM] linhan.ee: it's really good to both of us if we work together
[2014-12-06 10:58:39 AM] linhan.ee: we can make much much more on it
[2014-12-06 10:58:47 AM] International Rob: bro I like you gus
[2014-12-06 10:58:47 AM] linhan.ee: this is a very good project by itself
[2014-12-06 10:59:07 AM] International Rob: as much as we have had our problems... I am still a team member with a vested interest in seeing bay go to the moon
[2014-12-06 10:59:17 AM] International Rob: i just cant work with david anymore
[2014-12-06 10:59:26 AM] International Rob: stseven and you are gonna have to be his handler
[2014-12-06 10:59:27 AM] International Rob: lol
[2014-12-06 10:59:27 AM] linhan.ee: it will definitely go to the moon
[2014-12-06 10:59:48 AM] linhan.ee: yes, i know
[2014-12-06 11:00:05 AM] linhan.ee: i suggested steven to work it out in another way
[2014-12-06 11:00:17 AM] linhan.ee: as you know david got paid a lot
[2014-12-06 11:00:22 AM] linhan.ee: don't lose the money
[2014-12-06 11:00:34 AM] linhan.ee: let him do what he can do
[2014-12-06 11:00:40 AM] linhan.ee: and we do our best on this project too
[2014-12-06 11:00:46 AM] linhan.ee: but don't work in the old ways
[2014-12-06 11:01:28 AM] International Rob: i agree
[2014-12-06 11:01:37 AM] International Rob: i think what we need is a project mamnager
[2014-12-06 11:01:40 AM] International Rob: maybe not steven
[2014-12-06 11:01:46 AM] International Rob: who can contact all the players
[2014-12-06 11:01:49 AM] International Rob: and be the go to guy
[2014-12-06 11:01:54 AM] International Rob: the one that everyone likes
[2014-12-06 11:03:50 AM] linhan.ee: i know you and gekko are very angry with david. but objectively, he got paid we cannot get the money back. if he contributes on the dev work, why not let him do so.
[2014-12-06 11:03:51 AM] linhan.ee: right
[2014-12-06 11:04:22 AM] linhan.ee: but right now, steven is the only right person can do so. I am too busy to manage this project to I am going to help steven
[2014-12-06 11:04:36 AM] linhan.ee: also on the dev work
[2014-12-06 11:04:55 AM] linhan.ee: I will assign two coders to work on it
[2014-12-06 11:05:05 AM] International Rob: i know
[2014-12-06 11:05:06 AM] International Rob: anyway
[2014-12-06 11:05:09 AM] International Rob: that is in the past
[2014-12-06 11:05:14 AM] International Rob: lets mnove forward and make money
[2014-12-06 11:05:18 AM] linhan.ee: that's right
[2014-12-06 11:05:20 AM] International Rob: now i am talking to steven
[2014-12-06 11:05:23 AM] International Rob: i wil be right bakc
[2014-12-06 11:05:28 AM] linhan.ee: great
[2014-12-06 11:05:36 AM] linhan.ee: i am really glad to see this
[2014-12-06 11:06:31 AM] linhan.ee: I will let my guys report to steven on the UI design and dev work. steven will communicate with you on pump and marketing etc.
[2014-12-06 11:06:49 AM] linhan.ee: so we move forward together and we can make much more
[2014-12-06 11:20:40 AM] International Rob: we are moving forward together
[2014-12-06 11:21:04 AM] International Rob: starting tomoroow steven and i wil start placing support and slowly bring the price back up over 300 sat
[2014-12-06 11:21:34 AM] linhan.ee: great. it's a good chance.
[2014-12-06 11:21:58 AM] linhan.ee: i am so glad to hear this. you are professional
[2014-12-06 11:23:54 AM] International Rob: i know sometime i act crazy... and its cause of the weed i smoke\
[2014-12-06 11:24:03 AM] International Rob: but when itr comes to business its serious
[2014-12-08 1:25:15 PM] International Rob: hi lin
[2014-12-08 1:25:18 PM] International Rob: are you awake?
[9:19:09 PM] International Rob: Lin bro
[9:19:12 PM] International Rob: we have some problems
[9:19:22 PM] International Rob: we need to dump the price and pick up all the coins for cheap
[9:19:26 PM] International Rob: are you here
[9:19:26 PM] International Rob: ?
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=840972.msg9400690#msg9400690

Bobsurplus has controlled the BitBay Team bitcointalk account. and he want to dump the price to 20sats and pump this to 100 sats again. that's the reason why he keep FUDs this. The most evil people we have ever met is Bobsurplus.

No matter what happened, we will keep develop bitbay and maybe convert to bitbay2.0 in few days.

we will not fear threaten and extortion from him.

Here is some extortions evidence from him and he extort 1000BTC from bter.

Bter is an exchange platform, and they will not save any funds for BitBay anymore.


BitBay dev is the only official thread for bitbay!
David zimbeck and all our coders will keep develop hedging system and Decentralized marketplace.
Here is our new ANN thread, we will not respond on this old thread anymore.





[13:30:42] cryptosteven: all bter's money has refund to bitbay dev. and we will keep buying bitbay. bitbay has nothing to do with bter anymore. and they will not Save money for bitbay team anymore.   you are asking for 1000BTC from bter. it's a extortion.
[13:35:39] International Rob: nahh
[13:35:46] International Rob: i was offering to keep the story quiet
[13:35:49] International Rob: now its too late


BitBay dev is the only official representative for bitbay.
David zimbeck and all our coders will keep developing hedging system and decentralized marketplace and someother features.
Here is our new ANN thread, we will not respond in this old thread anymore.


BitBay New Official Thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=890322.0

Thanks for all your support.
Also bob are controlling the old bitbay thread Password. we will not respond anything in that old thread.
no matter what happened, we will keep focus on developing staff.

Some people were paid to FUDs this, just choose the button: ignore.

Thanks for your support.

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[2014-11-11 9:36:33 AM] linhan.ee: Hi bob, would you please let me know your deposit account?
[2014-11-11 9:37:14 AM] International Rob: 13h3WoCnqYAP8cSF4J8bRke59EKNXKCGoK
[2014-11-11 9:37:48 AM] International Rob: Is that what you mean?
[2014-11-11 9:38:01 AM] International Rob: my btc address


nice 500 BTC  deposit - https://blockchain.info/address/13h3WoCnqYAP8cSF4J8bRke59EKNXKCGoK

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[2014-11-11 9:36:33 AM] linhan.ee: Hi bob, would you please let me know your deposit account?
[2014-11-11 9:37:14 AM] International Rob: 13h3WoCnqYAP8cSF4J8bRke59EKNXKCGoK
[2014-11-11 9:37:48 AM] International Rob: Is that what you mean?
[2014-11-11 9:38:01 AM] International Rob: my btc address


nice 500 BTC  deposit - https://blockchain.info/address/13h3WoCnqYAP8cSF4J8bRke59EKNXKCGoK

I think so... that was a hard week of work for me....

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Is this shitcoin made by Hanlin(bter owner)
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Is this shitcoin made by Hanlin(bter owner)

yeppppp... him and his fake phantom btc!!!
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December 12, 2014, 09:48:35 AM
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Chinese Mobster / new BitBay Dev answer the damn question:

It is now clear that BTer participated in massive fraud, phantom BTC and insider trading AND owns 20% of BAY.

When will BTer make an official statement on this?

Chinese mobsters putting up fake buywalls of phantom BTC will not solve your current situation.



Steven AKA chinese mobster aka new Bitbay Dev Answer the question
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Steven AKA chinese mobster aka new Bitbay Dev Answer the question

Hmmm... yeah, I'll definitely stop by from time to time to see what the latest drama is... but I think I would rather simply print out paper wallets and burn all my BTC than double-down on a proven scam.  Trade it... sure I'll do that - but hold and wait... I think it's a little too late for most people.  I'm pretty sure that ship sailed for almost everyone but the ones that went on vacation this week. Wink

EDIT: I realized that looks strange... just saying I wouldn't expect an answer - or at least not an honest one, elenorrigby.  The rest was simply a commentary.
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December 12, 2014, 10:02:48 AM
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Also bob are controlling the old bitbay thread Password. we will not respond anything in that old thread.
no matter what happened, we will keep focus on developing staff.

Some people were paid to FUDs this, just choose the button: ignore.

Thanks for your support.
Thank you for confirming that .Also if anyone post a single post in the old ANN they will delt it in no time.

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David Zimbeck vowed bitbay be chained to 1 dollar and I believe him because I know him from Blackcoin...

It is an honest and smart man...

David and the rest of the healthy core team Bitbay keep up the good work and stick to the plan. I believe you...
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December 12, 2014, 12:56:45 PM
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So many FUDs in the old thread, to protect our investor and Bitbay Project, we have to start a Self-moderated thread.

Thanks for your understanding and support



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