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December 27, 2014, 11:11:05 PM
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The very best indication that USSR is not Russia, is the following open letter:
(Moving this post down the thread as I find this letter extremely important. Perfect - top spot of page 2. Skip if you already read it.)

Descendants of the White Emigration Against Russophobia in Western MSM
http://stanislavs.org/descendants-of-the-white-emigration-against-russophobia-in-western-msm/

The above link for more information.
Letter in Russian: http://www.russkymost.net/spip.php?article71
Letter in French: http://www.russkymost.net/spip.php?article70
The letter and interview with Prince Shakhovskoy: http://www.rg.ru/2014/12/25/pismo.html

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For almost a year, the Ukrainian events were of deep concern to of us, the descendants of white emigration, especially since in contrast to the people around us, we, due of our origin, have access to comprehensive information. Knowledge of the recent past, namely the past of the pre-revolutionary Russia, gives us the opportunity, and with it the duty, to expose the obvious historical falsifications that led to the current drama in Ukraine. In the face of heightened tensions in the Donbass as well as in the international relations we come to a conclusion is that the aggressive hostility, unfolding now against Russia is devoid of any rationality. The policy of double standards is above any limits.

Russia is accused of all crimes, without a priori evidence it is declared guilty, while other countries are shown an amazing lenience, in particular with regard to observing human rights.

We in no way refuse to protect those values upon which our ancestors brought us up, doomed to exile after the 1917 revolution. We do not refuse neither the condemnation of the criminal acts of the Bolsheviks and their successors, nor restoring of the historical truth about that terrible time. But this does not mean that we can put up with with the slander that daily falls on modern Russia, its leadership and its president, which is sanctioned and gets dirt thrown at it, contrary to elementary common sense. This self-destructive for the European countries ridiculous idea prompts to serious thought all those, who see in it the desire of the West to rather prevent the development of Russia, than to settle the crisis in Ukraine. Especially ridiculous are the systematic attack on everything, that is somehow related to the “Russian world”: we are talking about the historical, geographical, linguistic, cultural and spiritual realities of the great civilization that has enriched the world and that we are rightfully proud of. We also resent the shameful silence of the European official institutions and the media with regard to the brutal bombing that Ukrainian army, supported by military groups under Nazi symbols, pours in Donbass on civilians and civilian infrastructure. Such silence is perceived by the Kiev authorities as providing them with full right to continue killing and destruction. For months, children and old people are killed or seriously injured, and prisoners are tortured. And now the Kiev government has in addition introduced a complete blockage (gas, electricity, railways, pensions, salaries, medication, institutions, hospitals, etc.), to finally destroy the region, which al the while it declares to be an integral part of its territory. And how not to condemn violent acts committed by the supporters of Kiev in relation to the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine?! Priests are persecuted, forced to flee and even killed; fifty temples have been bombed, of which twenty were completely destroyed; believers are persecuted. Where are the European values?

We can not put up with the daily slander against modern Russia that is falling upon us.

Despite the complete rejection of the Soviet Union, our fathers and grandfathers greatly grieved the suffering endured by the Russian people during World War II. In turn, we will not stay as indifferent and silent witnesses in the face of the systematic destruction of the population of Donbass, blatant Russophobia and hypocritical approaches, completely contrary to the interests of our beloved Europe. We really want to hope that the countries that once gave shelter to our families, will again take the path of prudence and impartiality.

Paris, November 26, 2014
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This letter is compiled by the Prince and Princess Dimitri and Tamara Shahovskaya, with the initiative being supported by the group “Russian Bridge”, established in February 2011 by the descendants of white emigration.

Published online on November 26, 2014, this letter was supported by more than one hundred representatives of princely and aristocratic families from different countries. Every day, more and more letters of “solidarity with Russia in the hour of the Ukrainian tragedy” come to e-mail solidairesdelarussie@gmail.com

PS: An article about it on RT:
http://rt.com/politics/217551-russia-emigrants-letter-history/

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December 27, 2014, 11:16:39 PM
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Cheesy  I just find it ridiculous that one kind of hegemony can be "better" than another kind. Whether it's the US interfering in the Middle East or Russia interfering in border countries, imperialism is imperialism. These nations ought to be leaving independent nations alone for the good of the planet.

On that I fully agree with you. And on topic: USSR did quite a lot of "communism building" (read: interfering) by pouring money into African, Eastern-European and South American states, expecting to buy loyalty. Modern Russia's approach is different - fair trade opportunities, so there is less interference and more offering of opportunities.

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January 14, 2015, 10:22:16 PM
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The more I read about the coup d'etat of  October 1917 in Russia, the more I come to the conclusion that it was the first "colour revolution" - the red one. The goals then were just as they are now: to destroy a state and to steal its gold reserve.

Consider the following article in Siberian Times:

http://siberiantimes.com/other/others/features/where-in-siberia-is-the-last-tsar-of-russias-missing-gold/

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Not in dispute is that as Russia descended into chaos during the First World War, treasures were shifted in 1915 from the capital city of Petrograd (now St Petersburg) to Kazan, east of Moscow, and later controlled by anti-Bolshevik forces, for safe-keeping.

In the months leading up to July 1918, when abdicated ruler Nicholas II and his family were shot on Lenin's orders, it is estimated that 73 per cent of the world's largest gold reserves were held in this Tatar city on the Volga River before most was shifted further east into Siberia.

Grainy pictures from the vaults of a Kazan bank highlight that gold and other other precious metals of untold value were held here.

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January 15, 2015, 08:54:14 AM
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The posts here are living proof that the West will never understand the difference between Russia and the former USSR!
The only thing they understand is Manifest Destiny!!
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July 13, 2015, 11:23:31 AM
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A good short article by Lada Ray on the 1917 coups in Russia, answering some earlier points in this thead:

Was 1917 Russian Revolution an Early Maidan? Russian Analyst Nikolay Starikov on EU, Armenia Maidan and Greece
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/07/12/was-1917-russian-revolution-an-early-maidan-russian-analyst-nikolay-starikov-on-armenia-maidan-and-greece

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However, the real color revolution was the February 1917 coup/revolution that unseated Nikolay II and ended the Russian monarchy. Without those Russian oligarchs and Tsar’s relatives who came out wearing red bands in February, plotting to unseat Nikolay II, the later Bolshevik Revolution wouldn’t have happened. Without the direct British agent Kerensky (proven fact Kerensky himself brags about in his memoirs) and his Temporary Government (Vremennoe Previtelstvo) of oligarchs that destroyed what was left of the country’s infrastructure in the short several months between March and October, the Bolshevik revolution wouldn’t have happened either.

The 1917 Russian Empire situation looked a lot like Ukraine’s today, in other words, total madness – albeit on an incomparably larger scale. The Bolshevik Revolution of November 7, 1917 capitalized on the ensuing mayhem and went much beyond the color revolution goals, in fact breaking out of the mold and building an alternative system to rival the West.

But yes, February and November 1917 were in fact 2 parts of one mega-coup.

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July 13, 2015, 01:23:39 PM
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I hope Russia does something about US terrorist plundering of the middle east and now Ukraine.... Even if it means everyone on earth dies - we need to reboot humanity everyone in the west is evil and just thinking about themselves.

They are also atheist-sodomites.
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July 15, 2015, 02:46:42 PM
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Cheesy  I just find it ridiculous that one kind of hegemony can be "better" than another kind. Whether it's the US interfering in the Middle East or Russia interfering in border countries, imperialism is imperialism. These nations ought to be leaving independent nations alone for the good of the planet.

It's not that simple... For example Grand Duchy of Finland

"During the Finnish War between Sweden and Russia, the four Estates of occupied Finland were assembled at the Diet of Porvoo on 29 March 1809 to pledge allegiance to Alexander I of Russia who in return guaranteed that the laws and liberties as well as religion would be left unchanged."

"The autonomy of Finland was at first encouraged by the Russians in part due to the relatively developed governmental structures in Finland (as compared to the emperor-centered Russia of early 19th century) and in part as a deliberate policy of goodwill to win over the minds of the Finnish people. The autonomous status led Finns to develop their own ideas of nationalism and constitutional monarchy, which they could to a large extent implement in practice with the assent of the Tsar."

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July 15, 2015, 05:50:35 PM
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The famous Cimean Prosecutor General, Natalia Poklonskaja characterises the abdication of Nikolai II as illegitimate, saying that the paper was signed by a pencil and was lacking all the required legal procedures and forms:

http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2015/07/15/n_7379549.shtml?%D0%B2

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October 24, 2015, 05:37:56 PM
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I wrote the following piece as a follow-up on a note abut the invasion and subsequent destruction of Yugoslavia by USNATO. I called it the murdered elephant in the room, which the Western media does not want to notice. Here is another such elephant:



... I want to add another dead elephant in the room, an event that few in the West speak of, or even know about. Yet destruction of Yugoslavia ties directly with this event. It happened between the 21st of September and the 5th of October 1993. Back then, the Western MSM praised this event as the ultimate defence of the young Russian democracy, while in reality, it was the exact opposite.

At that time Russian Parliament, seeing where Yeltsin was steering the country, was preparing to pass impeachment of the President. It is a completely democratic process, designed to balance the presidential power and to trigger a preliminary election. Yeltsin’s reaction was all but democratic.

He passed directive #1400, disbanding the Parliament. When the Parliament refused to comply, he (with the backing of the “well-wishers” from across the pond) ordered army into the streets of Moscow. The Parliament building and the TV tower Ostankino were surrounded. People went out to the streets to defend the Parliament. Then there came the terrible order to open fire. People were shot down by concentrated machine gun fire from armoured vehicles, the Parliament was shelled from tanks.

Here is a footage of the shelling of the Parliament:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbGJkoc3JLI

The exact number of victims of the 1993 massacre is unknown – most documents from that time were destroyed – but is officially estimated to be approximately 200. According to the analysis in the following article (in Russian), the numbers may have been a magnitude higher.

http://www.km.ru/v-rossii/2012/10/04/istoriya-rossiiskoi-federatsii/693919-4-oktyabrya-1993-goda-vlast-ustroila-boiny

The massacre also marked the descent of Russia into a period of near-destruction, a period of lawlessness and dismemberment of the industry and defence. A period, known in Russia as “The Wild 90s”. An example of the desolation of Russia can be gleaned from an article that I translated a while back:

http://stanislavs.org/for-russia-90s-were-worse-than-wwii/

Russia became totally incapacitated, which, in turn allowed USNATO in 1999 to start an unpunished invasion of Yugoslavia, not fearing any opposition. And even then, some politicians in Russia tried to show protest. When USA started the bombings, Russian Foreign Minister Prjamakov was en route to USA on a diplomatic mission. Upon hearing of the news, he ordered that the plane be turned back right over the Atlantic Ocean in protest.

A link to the excerpt from the book “The Forgotten Victims of 1993”:
http://oct1993.narod.ru/doc/zabyitie_zhertvi.htm
It contains many witness descriptions of the executions of the defenders (even those, who were unarmed, already wounded or surrendered), and later falsification of the numbers of the murdered people.

From the site above, there is an interesting document by parliamentary Andronov, who from the besieged Parliament, on the day before the massacre conducted negotiation with representatives of the AMERICAN embassy, trying to prevent the bloodshed. Americans anyway gave the order to open fire, he says, adding that the bloodshed in Moscow in 1993 was directly authorised by Clinton.
http://oct1993.narod.ru/doc/14.doc

Doesn’t it feel on some level like the coup d’etat in Ukraine in 2014?



This bit of neglected/forgotten history is very important to remember an understand both for the Western and for the Russian audience alike. That event does bare a lot of similarities to the US-staged coup d'etat in Ukraine last year, with the difference that in the 1993 Russia USA were protecting their asset/puppet Yeltsin from losing power, while in Ukraine they were installing puppet Poroshenko into power.

The 1993 massacre was in a way the second colour revolution Russia suffered during the 20th century, the first one being in February 1917. An it explains current loathing of Russians toward the openly stated USA's goal of replacement of leadership in Russia. The blood from the previous such "democratisation" has still not been washed away from the collective memory.

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October 24, 2015, 06:17:53 PM
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From the site above, there is an interesting document by parliamentary Andronov, who from the besieged Parliament, on the day before the massacre conducted negotiation with representatives of the AMERICAN embassy, trying to prevent the bloodshed. Americans anyway gave the order to open fire, he says, adding that the bloodshed in Moscow in 1993 was directly authorized by Clinton.

Hmm... another one among Billary's crimes against humanity. Some 2,000 unarmed people were massacred on the orders of the drunkard Boris Yeltsin and his American masters. They were murdered for trying to prevent Yeltsin from illegally disbanding the democratically elected parliament, to continue with his puppet regime.
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March 02, 2016, 04:32:47 PM
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It's been a while since I posted here. Most discussions went in other topics.

In the meantime, I did a few translations and publications, pertaining to various periods from the Russian history.

USSR:
http://stanislavs.org/who-and-how-transferred-crimea-into-ukrainian-soviet-socialist-republic-in-1952-1954/

The Wild 90's and Desolation of Yeltsin:
http://stanislavs.org/for-russia-90s-were-worse-than-wwii/
http://stanislavs.org/the-wild-90s-in-russia-as-reflected-in-peoples-memory/
http://stanislavs.org/boris-yeltsin-demon-or-hero/

WWII:
http://stanislavs.org/sophie-against-canaris-she-fought-for-ussr-but-became-hero-of-russia/
http://stanislavs.org/wwii-veteran-stanislav-lapin-i-had-my-own-score-with-hitler/
http://stanislavs.org/life-is-such-a-simple-yet-cruel-thing/

The history of the Borderlands, aka Ukraine - both past and present:
http://stanislavs.org/denouncing-everything-soviet-then-return-the-territories/
http://stanislavs.org/and-what-about-restoration-of-territorial-integrity-of-russia/
http://stanislavs.org/how-malorossia-was-turned-into-the-patch-quilt-of-discord-that-is-ukraine/

Various:
http://stanislavs.org/nikolay-starikov-estonia-should-pay-back-the-money-for-which-peter-the-great-bought-it-from-sweden-300-years-ago/
http://stanislavs.org/russia-means-peace/
http://stanislavs.org/birds-eye-perspective-on-the-russian-federation/

And a little extra about writing off various debts, which Russia is too generous with.
A translation from the following article in AiF (in Russian):
http://www.aif.ru/politics/world/attrakcion_nevidannoy_shchedrosti_komu_vygodna_restrukturizaciya_kreditov

In 2008 Russia forgave $12 billion of Iraqi debt; $4.5 billion to Libya, $4.7 billion to Algiers. See infographics for the last 10 years:


But what about Russia itself? Russia repaid all Soviet debts, took on all the debts of the former republics, and more:

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Meanwhile, the lenders got from Russia not only all the debts of the USSR. France did not forget about the debts of tsarist Russia and in 1996  received part of the amount. While the heirs of the British company Lena Goldfields, which was engaged in concessions-based gold mining in Siberia, received from us $65 million, although it seemed that after the cancellation of the contract by the Bolsheviks in 1929, they could not count on it. Moreover, we even repaid someone else's debt! For example, Russia participated in the cancellation of Liberia's debt ($700 million.) to the World Bank. And Moscow gave no credits to Liberia - our money went as a compensation for Liberia to the World Bank deposit as coming from "from other countries" - to the World Bank, which is located in n the United States and which manager is appointed by the US government...

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March 02, 2016, 06:13:44 PM
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In 2008 Russia forgave $12 billion of Iraqi debt; $4.5 billion to Libya, $4.7 billion to Algiers. But what about Russia itself? Russia repaid all Soviet debts, took on all the debts of the former republics, and more

Heights of insanity from Yeltsin. When his own people were starving, he was busy repaying tens of billions of USD worth Soviet era debt which was owed to various Western nations. And Putin was no better. What was the need to write off the Libyan and Algerian debt? In 2008, the per-capita GDP in these two nations were bigger than the same in Russia.
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Russia like a bear cornered.
Decreased oil prices caused a big economic crisis in Russia.
But at same time Russia has never given up its Pan-slavist aspiration. Russia wants war because it wants to descent to hot waters. Russian economy is in a bad situation and a war machine gives economy a new fresh breath.   
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Russia like a bear cornered.
Decreased oil prices caused a big economic crisis in Russia.
But at same time Russia has never given up its Pan-slavist aspiration. Russia wants war because it wants to descent to hot waters. Russian economy is in a bad situation and a war machine gives economy a new fresh breath.  

If Russia wanted war, you would have had it already in 2014. Well, USSR would not have stopped at Berlin in 1945, come to think of it.

Russia wants peace. Russia wants cooperation and trade. Russia wants that its lands are not constantly viewed with hunger by the trans-atlantic pack of hungry wolves. You should leave the cold war wordings behind.

As for "pan-slavist aspirations"... What's wrong with that? What's wrong with reminding the Slavs that they are, in fact, Slavs? What's wrong with wanting people to be friendlier to each other? What's wrong with wanting them to remember their common history, culture, language? Linguistically, a Russian can read Bulgarian or Serbian almost without a vocabulary, and Slovakian with only a minor effort of imagination...

The only "wrong" in that is from the viewpoint of the Western "divide and conquer" strategy that's been systematically applied to the Slavic people, creating "different" by concentrating on some minor, local, variations, rather then promoting cooperation by pointing out the huge commonalities - something that Russia should do.

In my view, Russia has not been doing nearly enough on that front to even warrant an accusation of having "pan-slavist aspirations". Russia should have been much more proactive and forward.

For those interested in an example on how those divisions were implemented, I can recommend reading my translation of the article:

Galician Intellectuals Wishing to Deprive Ukrainian of the Cyrillic Alphabet
http://stanislavs.org/galician-intellectuals-wishing-to-deprive-ukrainian-of-the-cyrillic-alphabet/

and Lada Ray's extended commentary to the article:
How to Reformat People’s Consciousness and Keep them as Obedient Slaves
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2016/03/28/how-to-reformat-peoples-consciousness-and-keep-them-as-obedient-slaves/

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April 10, 2016, 03:41:04 PM
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I've finished translating a larger documentary on the history of Malorossia and Galicia, and the creation of Ukraine in the XXth century.

Project ‘Ukraine’. Documentary by Andrei Medvedev (with English subtitles)
http://stanislavs.org/project-ukraine-documentary-by-andrei-medvedev-with-english-subtitles/

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This is a dispassionate chronological look at the history of Galicia and Malorossia, and how those Russian lands were being gradually turned into Ukraine. The film presents a trove of documents, citations, documentary footage and lives it to the viewer to draw conclusions. The documentary also takes an introspective look at where Russia went wrong with its handling of the budding extreme nationalism in those lands at the turn of the 19th-20th century, and introspection is a good sign – a nation, which does not view itself as exceptional, which has the capacity to understand its mistakes, has a hope for the future…

Alas, YouTube censored the video on the grounds of some bogus copyright claims.

Until I find a venue to publish the subtitled version, here are 5 easy steps that will allow you to watch it with subtitles on your desktop machine:


Full transcript of the translated subtitles is also available at
http://stanislavs.org/project-ukraine-documentary-by-andrei-medvedev-with-english-subtitles/

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Russia like a bear cornered.
Decreased oil prices caused a big economic crisis in Russia.

Almost two years have passed since the oil prices collapsed, and the Russians are doing relatively well (at least when compared to the other oil producing nations such as Azerbaijan, Angola, Nigeria, Venezuela, Norway, and Saudi Arabia). The Forex reserves are growing, and the unemployment and inflation is stable.
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Russia like a bear cornered.
Decreased oil prices caused a big economic crisis in Russia.
But at same time Russia has never given up its Pan-slavist aspiration. Russia wants war because it wants to descent to hot waters. Russian economy is in a bad situation and a war machine gives economy a new fresh breath.  

If Russia wanted war, you would have had it already in 2014. Well, USSR would not have stopped at Berlin in 1945, come to think of it.

Russia wants peace. Russia wants cooperation and trade. Russia wants that its lands are not constantly viewed with hunger by the trans-atlantic pack of hungry wolves. You should leave the cold war wordings behind.

As for "pan-slavist aspirations"... What's wrong with that? What's wrong with reminding the Slavs that they are, in fact, Slavs? What's wrong with wanting people to be friendlier to each other? What's wrong with wanting them to remember their common history, culture, language? Linguistically, a Russian can read Bulgarian or Serbian almost without a vocabulary, and Slovakian with only a minor effort of imagination...

The only "wrong" in that is from the viewpoint of the Western "divide and conquer" strategy that's been systematically applied to the Slavic people, creating "different" by concentrating on some minor, local, variations, rather then promoting cooperation by pointing out the huge commonalities - something that Russia should do.

In my view, Russia has not been doing nearly enough on that front to even warrant an accusation of having "pan-slavist aspirations". Russia should have been much more proactive and forward.

For those interested in an example on how those divisions were implemented, I can recommend reading my translation of the article:

Galician Intellectuals Wishing to Deprive Ukrainian of the Cyrillic Alphabet
http://stanislavs.org/galician-intellectuals-wishing-to-deprive-ukrainian-of-the-cyrillic-alphabet/

and Lada Ray's extended commentary to the article:
How to Reformat People’s Consciousness and Keep them as Obedient Slaves
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2016/03/28/how-to-reformat-peoples-consciousness-and-keep-them-as-obedient-slaves/

Are you serious ? .... ? Really ? You take the truth when it is ok for u ... and you do like all the time in russia ... deny deny deny ... and 10 years later ... ho yes !

Can you recall us what Poutine told in public about Crimea when it has been annexed by "little greens men" ...

First, WE HAVE NO ARMY IN CREMEA....

Then ... WE LIBERATE Crimea ....

And ... Nuclear weapons was ready for any attack over Crimea ...

For you this is not a way of path for WAR ?

Where are coming all weapons and Advanced tech in East of Ukraina Huh China black market ?

They denied again and again ... let's speak about the rape of URSS army after the second war ... where about 2 millions german wife were raped / killed by URSS army ... this great and glory army ...

URSS ... Staline killed more people than the second war ... and the lie about Katyn massacre ? The lie about the shutdown of plane of Korean Air ?

All the time Russia lie ... and lie ... so why we would beleive them now ?
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May 18, 2016, 04:40:54 PM
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People talk BS!! They confuse actual  Russia with old URSS ...URSS was  a Bolshevik and atheist federation and then was transformed in a communist federation. The bolshevism was based on Marxism!! Marxism/Bolshevism/Communism ( even socialism and capitalism) promotes atheism !!

Who was Marx?!! who was Lev Troțki? or Lenin?
What said Marx? only the people who produce something, must live, who is weak, must die! natural selection? Yeahh Marx was inspired by Darwinism and French socialist revolution.

Marx promoted the violence, because, he said, that's the only way to change something!

How many people was killed by those atheistic ideas ? how many was killed by jew bolshevism? More then 55 million!! Most of them were Christians!! thousands of church were destroyed. More then 9 million of Ukrainians were killed!! More then 22 million of Russians  were killed!!
Million of Romanians , Bulgarians, Serbian, Polish, Belarusian, Hungarians were killed!! This is the MARXISM!! This is the face of ATHEISM!!

Who brought the bolshevism in Russia?

I'm not a Russian and  country has suffered from Bolshevism and Communism!

Right now Russia is not the same!! There are problems but everywhere problems persist ( americans or germans have no problems? )

Before posting bullshits, people must learn what was(is) the connections between SOCIALISM MARXISM ATHEISM BOLSHEVISM DARWINISM even NAZISM and FEMINISM? What is the political correctness??

And now who bring the war in our world? Russia?

STOP TALKING BULLSHITS !!!!!

If we don't learn from history, history can repeat!!




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June 10, 2016, 06:39:29 PM
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Saksham, the problem is not in those guys being atheists - just see how many religious leaders destroyed their countries. The problem was in their attitude towards Russia. Marx, Engels, Lenin were ardent russophobes. Destruction of Russia and its population was what they primarily wanted. Lenin's creation of Ukraine and Belarussia was one such destructive "divide and conquer" step...
Later Soviet leaders were more preoccupied with power than with the well-being of the country. The only exception in my view would be Andropov.

But you are right in that the modern Western propaganda machine is doing everything trying to maintain the equality sign between modern Russia and USSR in the minds of the electorate.
 


Now, for those wishing to learn more about the administrative structure of oblast's, okrug's, krai's, republics and autonomies that comprise the Russian Federation (as well as a historic look at USSR and the Russian Empire), head over to

Lada’s Guide to the 85 Subjects of the Russian Federation
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/07/29/ladas-guide-to-the-85-subjects-of-the-russian-federation/


“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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June 10, 2016, 09:06:46 PM
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I think we already in it..and you got another problem.

And it`s sad, but the only way we can neutralize these situations is if both people come forward and disarm certain # of bases.

Heres just a closer look to what I saw under with russia and the new cold war thats going on:

Vice - covers this 1st handed on the ground
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkW4eW7TMvM

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