Announcment: Brand-new miner EMIC PowerModule - 5.65 TH/s

[blg42598]

Seemed too good to be true.

[1714027254]

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[Gleb Gamow]

send me a test unit to review and verify u are not a scam

Oh, I have already offered them this via PM. Still no any response on my offer. So looks like we can just forget about this "manufacturer"...

If you want to throw away money that is fine with me, just send it to me to throw it away rather then a scammer.

I am ready to receive their BTCs too. I will use them for some good things, trust me.   I'm serious!  

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FTFY!

[blg42598]

Well, he replied to me lol

I emailed him with a question about the miner about a week ago.

[audiotopix]

An update on my stupidity 

Got this in my email today:

Hello Thomas,

Thank you for purchasing our product!

Sorry for delay, but we are getting lot of messages and requests. I can confirm your order, and that we received full payment. In next one work day I will send you an confirmation.

This confirmation will be in pdf format and it will be signed using qualifited electronical signature. This will be offcial evidence and confirmation of your order.

Happy mining!

--
Regards,
Michał Krawczyszyn.

EMIC - European Mining Innovation Center
ul. Puławska 34 bud 27
05-500 Piaseczno
Poland

[Syke]

An update on my stupidity 

Got this in my email today:

Hello Thomas,

Thank you for purchasing our product!

Sorry for delay, but we are getting lot of messages and requests. I can confirm your order, and that we received full payment. In next one work day I will send you an confirmation.

This confirmation will be in pdf format and it will be signed using qualifited electronical signature. This will be offcial evidence and confirmation of your order.

Happy mining!

--
Regards,
Michał Krawczyszyn.

EMIC - European Mining Innovation Center
ul. Puławska 34 bud 27
05-500 Piaseczno
Poland

[audiotopix]

An update on my stupidity 

Got this in my email today:

Hello Thomas,

Thank you for purchasing our product!

Sorry for delay, but we are getting lot of messages and requests. I can confirm your order, and that we received full payment. In next one work day I will send you an confirmation.

This confirmation will be in pdf format and it will be signed using qualifited electronical signature. This will be offcial evidence and confirmation of your order.

Happy mining!

--
Regards,
Michał Krawczyszyn.

EMIC - European Mining Innovation Center
ul. Puławska 34 bud 27
05-500 Piaseczno
Poland

And it only cost 1.8 something BTC

[Gleb Gamow]

An update on my stupidity 

Got this in my email today:

Hello Thomas,

Thank you for purchasing our product!

Sorry for delay, but we are getting lot of messages and requests. I can confirm your order, and that we received full payment. In next one work day I will send you an confirmation.

This confirmation will be in pdf format and it will be signed using qualifited electronical signature. This will be offcial evidence and confirmation of your order.

Happy mining!

--
Regards,
Michał Krawczyszyn.

EMIC - European Mining Innovation Center
ul. Puławska 34 bud 27
05-500 Piaseczno
Poland

And it only cost 1.8 something BTC

For a Polish Dumb Fax?

Why the extra work when a readily available system could've done the same thing seconds after the order was placed? Hell, just send the receipt via third-class mail.

[Gleb Gamow]

I, too, just got my reply. Anybody want to see it including the complete header?

[kano]

Just PMed to him now:

Hi, you posted you are using our (ckolivas an myself) software cgminer and an old version.
Unless that was a complete scam comment, you will now be able to immediately post a link to the source code for the changed version of cgminer and I will be able to at least see that you have done something over the months you have supposedly spent in development.

cgminer GPLv3 requires you to give the source code to anyone you supply a cgminer binary to, if they request it.
i.e. any customers you actually supply with miners.
Of course if you are a scam and you are never going to provide customers with miners then of course no source code is required.

I am posting this PM on the forum also.

There is NO reason for you to NOT be able to reply to this with a full source code link within 24 hours unless you are spending days faking a reply or simply just a complete scam and unable to produce such software modifications with a new driver for your hardware.

To be able to deliver in February means you will already have full designs and completed hardware for pretty much everything but the actual wafer being packaged and given to you - which would happen in the next couple of weeks at the most to be able to meet an END of February deadline.
You will already have full schematic diagrams for everything and thus you could also either:
1) post these on the forum to waylay the fears that most believe you are a scam
or
2) ignore doing that coz ... you are a scam

Please reply within 24 hours or post results on the forum within 24 hours.

Lastly of course, ckolivas and myself already regularly receive hardware from the main manufacturers of bitcoin mining hardware and we are easily able to evaluate and prove that something is, indeed, real mining hardware since we wrote most of the cgminer code and most of the drivers in cgminer.

It doesn't matter what excuse you come up with, doing the above things: posting source code links, posting schematic diagrams, posting information that can prove you are actually doing and have almost completed what it seems you are faking, will not in any way damage your company if it is legitimate. Not posting that information now, will damage it or simply prove it is a scam.

[suchmoon]

Good one . Turns out GPL can be used for scambusting.

Just curious - are all vendors compliant with this - Bitmain, Spond, AM? I kind of remember there was some quarrel in one of Bitmain threads about the source code, not sure if it was about GPL though.

[kano]

Good one . Turns out GPL can be used for scambusting.

Just curious - are all vendors compliant with this - Bitmain, Spond, AM? I kind of remember there was some quarrel in one of Bitmain threads about the source code, not sure if it was about GPL though.

Most vendors are.
Bitmain has been slow in the past.
A few Chinese vendors completely ignore it since their laws seem to let them.
Pity people still buy from those Chinese vendors, and support them ignoring the GPLv3 - but I guess it's not rare for people to really not give a damn about that unless they can gain from it directly.

[Felipeo]

+1 Kano (and no contact with You or ckolivas about cgminer are next sign of very poor scam)


Still no possibility to contact by phone... its just off.

And user last active: Today at 03:05:03 so Michał is watching but clearly have no more to add...

[Rabinovitch]

He told me that test unit will be sent to dogie... Dogie still keeps silence about it...

[baristor]

He told me that test unit will be sent to dogie... Dogie still keeps silence about it...

he told me the same thing anonymously decided !

[kpitti]

Did I missed something? I am reading here now that people are buying this even without prove of existence .... . Did someone confirmed that miner is real and had chance to test it?
I am curious.

[legendster]

... If us throwing away 1.8541 BTC helps 1000 other people  ....

So you're all rich old farts I say that with the utmost respect off course

Regardless, do keep us informed about what this turns out to be. Trust me if this 6Th/s for $600 turns out to be real then it is a solid deal for many of us Indians & would appreciate it.

[Syke]

Did I missed something? I am reading here now that people are buying this even without prove of existence .... . Did someone confirmed that miner is real and had chance to test it?
I am curious.

There is no evidence it exists, but that doesn't stop people from wasting their money.

[Gleb Gamow]

Did I missed something? I am reading here now that people are buying this even without prove of existence .... . Did someone confirmed that miner is real and had chance to test it?
I am curious.

There is no evidence it exists, but that doesn't stop people from wasting their money.

Some Phinnaeus(sic) dude once said there's a sucker born every minute. If it looks like a Ponzi scheme, smells like a Ponzi scheme, quacks like a Ponzi scheme, and you even clearly tell your customer base that it's a Ponzi scheme, you'll still near-overload your servers with activity.

As promised 100 hours http://cryptodouble.com/?ref=hx4ls bitcoin invested back twice.



https://blockchain.info/address/1EwmGMg4fCTPSV8NuBxR4DbdZFiU2ZbgaV

Everything looks like a big ponzi but although at the beginning, you can earn some money.
It is important to back out at the right time and take the right strategy

After these four days I am at zero and 2 BTC which drain into the Saturday I'll try a few times to multiply.

[alh]

While this may sound pedantic, I don't think that this is a Ponzi scheme at all. I think it's more like outright fraud, where you you sell something that doesn't exist, or that you don't own. Kinda like when I tried to sell the Brooklyn Bridge a few years back.

I thinks Charles Ponzi would take great offense, from his grave, at this being called a Ponzi scheme.

[Gleb Gamow]

While this may sound pedantic, I don't think that this is a Ponzi scheme at all. I think it's more like outright fraud, where you you sell something that doesn't exist, or that you don't own. Kinda like when I tried to sell the Brooklyn Bridge a few years back.

I thinks Charles Ponzi would take great offense, from his grave, at this being called a Ponzi scheme.

Apologies for the misunderstanding, for I was in no way implying that EMIC is a Ponzi scheme. I merely was pointing out the "there's a sucker born every minute" aspect, using an obvious Ponzi scheme by its owner's own admission, yet crypto-coiners flocked to, then participated on the site. Ergo, if EMIC is a scam, he'll profit handsomely off it, rinsing and repeating the process, for why kill the golden goose model when there's still millions of marks to be had?