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July 21, 2012, 07:38:53 AM
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July 21, 2012, 07:46:04 AM
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Crooks gunna crook. Same old story.

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July 21, 2012, 10:29:50 PM
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What surprised me the MOST is that ANYONE actually looked at "the official interest rates" and went by that.

Why would any sane investor do that?

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July 23, 2012, 07:23:32 AM
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They'll just lynch a few more "rogue" junior traders foot-soldiers, while I absolutely guarantee that the senior executives will never go to prison.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/lieborgate-here-come-arrests
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July 23, 2012, 10:57:06 AM
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ehhh not surprising, pretty much everything related to the financial markets is "somewhat" manipulated.

I used to work on wall street :S
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July 26, 2012, 11:48:56 PM
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ehhh not surprising, pretty much everything related to the financial markets is "somewhat" manipulated.

I used to work on wall street :S

I never worked on wall street, but came to the same conclusion. It's ridiculous to try and draw lines, just like in competitive sports/doping. What if someone shoots steroids? Unfair to others. What if someone prepares at high elevation to boost up rbc count? Suddenly this is not unfair. What if she has got unusually high levels of testosterone? Depends. Someone arbitrarily decides what value is acceptable. What if someone includes a plant in the diet that contains a yet-uncontrolled booster? Today OK, tomorrow not so much. It's all bullshit.


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July 29, 2012, 04:42:03 AM
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It's worth noting that this "scandal" kept interest rates artificially low. You paid less credit card interest, lower variable mortgage payments, lower almost everything. The British banks say "you're welcome."

For once, they actually screwed the rich who are net lenders of money, instead of the rest who are net borrowers.
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July 29, 2012, 05:03:43 AM
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It's worth noting that this "scandal" kept interest rates artificially low. You paid less credit card interest, lower variable mortgage payments, lower almost everything. The British banks say "you're welcome."

For once, they actually screwed the rich who are net lenders of money, instead of the rest who are net borrowers.

You're forgetting about the inflation that artificially low interest rates cause. That hurts the poor far more than the rich.

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July 31, 2012, 12:19:50 PM
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Here is a great video on the subject:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oV2mI0IYp8

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July 31, 2012, 04:32:24 PM
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Fun to note that the Denver shooting is very likely linked to LIBOR.
(I mean more than just for creating a distraction.)

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=20936

http://jamesholmeswiki.com/james-holmes-parents-robert/

His father was to testify on LIBOR the weeks after.

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July 31, 2012, 06:09:17 PM
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Let's put the fox in charge of the chickens, what could go wrong?  Smiley

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August 05, 2012, 12:09:44 AM
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There is no market regulated by strictly market consumers (i.e. a free market) in traditional banking. Were there one, depositors would shop around and pay attention to the credibility of each bank which in turn would force them to compete with one another and not collude. And it's that simple to solve this problem: remove FDIC, remove all guarantees, remove lenders of last resort, remove regulations and BOOM all the crooks will go up in smoke and what will remain are the honest players.

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August 05, 2012, 01:13:48 AM
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Well the role of the legitmatised fraud of Central Bank manipulation of interest rates has to finally come to the fore now .... doesn't it?

It is the CORE fraud that the socialist, centralised banking model is resting upon, the rottenness of the concept is finally bearing its just fruit.

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August 05, 2012, 01:14:04 AM
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There is no market regulated by strictly market consumers (i.e. a free market) in traditional banking. Were there one, depositors would shop around and pay attention to the credibility of each bank which in turn would force them to compete with one another and not collude. And it's that simple to solve this problem: remove FDIC, remove all guarantees, remove lenders of last resort, remove regulations and BOOM all the crooks will go up in smoke and what will remain are the honest players.

Yep, but it might take a while. Might look like the current bitcoin economy for some time first.

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August 05, 2012, 03:04:22 PM
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There is no market regulated by strictly market consumers (i.e. a free market) in traditional banking. Were there one, depositors would shop around and pay attention to the credibility of each bank which in turn would force them to compete with one another and not collude. And it's that simple to solve this problem: remove FDIC, remove all guarantees, remove lenders of last resort, remove regulations and BOOM all the crooks will go up in smoke and what will remain are the honest players.

Yep, but it might take a while. Might look like the current bitcoin economy for some time first.

Sure would be fun to watch.
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August 09, 2012, 01:03:47 AM
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More proof that our everyday lives are controlled by bigwig elistist assholes. If the attorney general can ship guns to mexican cartels in order to slander the 2nd amendment, and fucking WALK when hes busted, then the large money changers will not even get a slap on the wrist.

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August 09, 2012, 07:31:22 PM
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Fun to note that the Denver shooting is very likely linked to LIBOR.
(I mean more than just for creating a distraction.)

Have to call you out on this one. I haven't been able to find a decent source. Jon Rappoport says he tried to, but couldn't:

http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2012/08/04/fact-or-fiction-holmes-father-to-testify-james-holmes-photos-dont-match/

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August 10, 2012, 01:16:09 PM
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Let me ask: what could possibly go wrong ?  Wink

1/Central Banks give the power of money creation to a cartel of banks
2/The cartel of banks creates money out of thin air by issuing debt: this is the only way for other participants to get new money in circulation.
3/The cartel of banks sets the "price" of money (the ultimate absurdity) by applying an interest rate

How could THAT possibly be called a "market" or a "market economy": this is just a sure recipe to destroy capitalism and society.
LIBOR was just too obvious a scam because there are so few participants but any other interest rates are equally illegitimate and fake.

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August 10, 2012, 01:21:51 PM
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Connecting the recent Batman shooting to Libor...

http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news617_batmanwhohow.html

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Robert Holmes, the shooting suspect's father, is a senior lead scientist with FICO, the American credit score company. He was scheduled to testify in the next few weeks before a US Senate panel that is investigating the largest bank fraud scandal in world history. This banking fraud threatens to destabilize and destroy the Western banking system.

I have not verified this information myself Smiley

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August 10, 2012, 01:30:36 PM
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Pretty sure thats his dad. Never seen any evidence he was going to testify in front of congress.
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