lindeanin


May 11, 2015, 05:35:58 PM 

Hello fellow players, About the controversy that happened in the last days, we can only add that depositing players rank much HIGHER in our priorities than thousands of cashouts from bonus abusers. Who would know, right? After all we have one more happy player and that is what all of this is about. Best regards, Birwo Support Team All I can recommend for you is to close your promotion (if you haven't already).Add a one time 100 satoshi bonus, the faucet abusers are not interested in 100 satoshis per 1 minute so there will be no one who will abuse your faucet and it would also be enough to try your games 100 times(if you lower the min bet). I think you misunderstand OP, he means bonus(50mbtc campaign bonus and 5mbtc no deposit bonus), but you are obviously talking about faucet, which is usually hundreds of sat. Anyway, you are talking about faucet, I think faucet is not easy to abuse, because usually the withdrawal limit for casinos with faucet is 0.001btc, to make 0.001btc from 200 sat faucet is an almost impossible mission. Not only impossible but nobody will wanna do it.






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fox19891989


May 11, 2015, 05:53:38 PM 

Hello fellow players, About the controversy that happened in the last days, we can only add that depositing players rank much HIGHER in our priorities than thousands of cashouts from bonus abusers. Who would know, right? After all we have one more happy player and that is what all of this is about. Best regards, Birwo Support Team All I can recommend for you is to close your promotion (if you haven't already).Add a one time 100 satoshi bonus, the faucet abusers are not interested in 100 satoshis per 1 minute so there will be no one who will abuse your faucet and it would also be enough to try your games 100 times(if you lower the min bet). I think you misunderstand OP, he means bonus(50mbtc campaign bonus and 5mbtc no deposit bonus), but you are obviously talking about faucet, which is usually hundreds of sat. Anyway, you are talking about faucet, I think faucet is not easy to abuse, because usually the withdrawal limit for casinos with faucet is 0.001btc, to make 0.001btc from 200 sat faucet is an almost impossible mission. Not only impossible but nobody will wanna do it. Yeah, it's wasting time actually, unless the faucet is high, or the game is skilled, like blackjack, once i played blackjack with a 500 sat faucet, I made 0.001 btc from 500 sat faucet, I was very patient and just wanted to train my blackjack skills, and finally I have done. It's tough to hit the withdrawal threshold  usually 0.001 btc, "faucet abuser" is not a good name for those who play with faucet money, if they don't violate terms and conditions they can't be called faucet abuser. Most of people can't withdraw the money from casino faucet. If everyone can do this, casino will be broke very soon, and no one lost money there, either faucet money player or deposit money player.




skierchewing


May 11, 2015, 09:27:50 PM 

Birwo, we know your bonus requeriments are 40x rollover right?
In math probably it mean... 1 each 40 people will reach it, not so hard... why we can't see NO ONE that reach it? and all who gots it is abuser?
and math says 1 each 40 and with 40x from 0,05BTC in case = 2BTC...
funny, no one got it... i think you created a new math probably




arallmuus


May 11, 2015, 09:42:25 PM 

Birwo, we know your bonus requeriments are 40x rollover right? Yes it is 40x rollover In math probably it mean... 1 each 40 people will reach it 40x rollover doesnt mean that 1 every 40 people will reach it, your math is off not so hard Right , not so hard if you are lucky enough why we can't see NO ONE that reach it? If you pay attention and read few pages back you can actually see that panjul07 managed to reach it and withdraw few of his winning, you need to do some reseach before making such claim finally I reach the 40x rollover, but only with 0.04x balance left. tried to withdraw it, but it is not as instant as my previous withdraw from affiliate earning And I confirm that I received my withdrawal. Thanks again. P.S : not defending the site




skierchewing


May 11, 2015, 09:46:28 PM 

man, 40x rollover mean that 1 each 40 people (in average) will reach it lol. I never said exactly.
If you can't notice that i'm sorry for you. I'll not give you math lessons here =p




skierchewing


May 11, 2015, 09:50:03 PM 

And i'm saying that 1 each 40 will reach it (IN AVERAGE) and more, with at least 2BTC. Math prove that.
Think a little before answer this, do some math before, start with low numbers like.
1/2 with 2 people playing it, to reach 2x rollover . you'll see that 40 people playing on 1/40, in average at least one should be able to get 40x the initial value.




yakuza699


May 11, 2015, 09:52:31 PM 

man, 40x rollover mean that 1 each 40 people (in average) will reach it lol. I never said exactly.
If you can't notice that i'm sorry for you. I'll not give you math lessons here =p
You are the one who needs to get math lessons.Lets say that I bet that bonus(0.05) 40 times at the odds of 1.01.Winning 40 times in a row odds are 1.40 and that is about every two persons.




arallmuus


May 11, 2015, 09:56:49 PM 

man, 40x rollover mean that 1 each 40 people (in average) will reach it lol. I never said exactly.
If you can't notice that i'm sorry for you. I'll not give you math lessons here =p
You are the one who needs to get math lessons.Lets say that I bet that bonus(0.05) 40 times at the odds of 1.01.Winning 40 times in a row odds are 1.40 and that is about every two persons. Should probably leave him alone with his math "problems" here . Some people just cant stand that his argument is wrong. Anyway I have proven it to you using your "broken math" that 1 people have passed the 2 BTC wagering requirement and I have posted the proof of it as well, just as if you are not to busy with your "broken math" then you might want to read it above




skierchewing


May 11, 2015, 10:24:08 PM 

man, 40x rollover mean that 1 each 40 people (in average) will reach it lol. I never said exactly.
If you can't notice that i'm sorry for you. I'll not give you math lessons here =p
You are the one who needs to get math lessons.Lets say that I bet that bonus(0.05) 40 times at the odds of 1.01.Winning 40 times in a row odds are 1.40 and that is about every two persons. lol man, what's your math there? i don't see any logic on it '=' Can you explain me that please, i don't got it? i'm curious now, i think a new math Revolution is coming now




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May 12, 2015, 12:00:56 AM 

Birwo, we know your bonus requeriments are 40x rollover right?
In math probably it mean... 1 each 40 people will reach it, not so hard... why we can't see NO ONE that reach it? and all who gots it is abuser?
and math says 1 each 40 and with 40x from 0,05BTC in case = 2BTC...
funny, no one got it... i think you created a new math probably
Wondering where you got the probability of reaching the wager requirement "1 each 40 people will reach it" I think there is no exact math to count this probability, it is just about luck..because it is gambling not a math lesson. And you are wrong if you say that you cant see anyone who reach it . I did it few days ago and withdrew my winning successfully. (Read some previous posts before comment)




skierchewing


May 12, 2015, 02:32:53 AM 

Birwo, we know your bonus requeriments are 40x rollover right?
In math probably it mean... 1 each 40 people will reach it, not so hard... why we can't see NO ONE that reach it? and all who gots it is abuser?
and math says 1 each 40 and with 40x from 0,05BTC in case = 2BTC...
funny, no one got it... i think you created a new math probably
Wondering where you got the probability of reaching the wager requirement "1 each 40 people will reach it" I think there is no exact math to count this probability, it is just about luck..because it is gambling not a math lesson. And you are wrong if you say that you cant see anyone who reach it . I did it few days ago and withdrew my winning successfully. (Read some previous posts before comment) man, I said 100times, 1 each 40 (average) AVERAGE, not 100% . if 80 people plays, The average is 2 people reach it, if 40000 people play, the Average is 1000 reach it, it can be 1200, can be 800 but the AVERAGE is 1000 . And about your case, i was saying about reaching rollover with at least 2BTC payout. =p




skierchewing


May 12, 2015, 02:53:20 AM 

I can see you all horrible in math... i'll explain like explain for children for you Imagine the Rollover is 2x, and you start with 1BTC. So your objetive is wagger 2BTC So, imagine you playing with 1BTC betting size.  Step 1 (bank 1 BTC, wagger 0BTC) You bet 1BTC with 50% chance to get 2BTC On lose, you lose all. (finish here) On winning, you already have 1BTC waggered, and have 2 BTC in your bank now. But you need to bet again, because you must reach 2BTC. But notice that now, you have 100% that you going to reach 2x rollover.  Step 2 (bank 2 BTC, wagger 1BTC) You bet 1BTC with 50% chance to get 2BTC On lose, you lose 1 BTC. (Bank 1BTC, wagger 2BTC) so you reached rollover, and can payout 1BTC On win, You earn 1BTC. (Bank 3BTC, wagger 2BTC) so you reached rollover, and can payout 3BTC Even if you lose or win, you'll reach rollover, but you got 50% to withdraw 1BTC, or 3BTC, so on average, you'll withdrawn 2BTC.  So let's do the math now. Back to Step 1. You have 50% to lose (lose all), 50% to win (rollover is 100% reached after that, with 2BTC ready to withdrawn on average) So in average, each 2 people that play, one of them probably will get it.  Try it with 1 BTC that you need 3x for rollover now. playing at 33,3% chance of winning it, you'll see that the probably will be 33,3% to reach the rollover. that mean 1 each 3 people Now do it with 1BTC with 40x rollover. bla, congratulations, You'll have the same proportional chance with rollover.




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May 12, 2015, 03:22:46 AM 

I can see you all horrible in math... i'll explain like explain for children for you Imagine the Rollover is 2x, and you start with 1BTC. So your objetive is wagger 2BTC So, imagine you playing with 1BTC betting size.  Step 1 (bank 1 BTC, wagger 0BTC) You bet 1BTC with 50% chance to get 2BTC On lose, you lose all. (finish here) On winning, you already have 1BTC waggered, and have 2 BTC in your bank now. But you need to bet again, because you must reach 2BTC. But notice that now, you have 100% that you going to reach 2x rollover.  Step 2 (bank 2 BTC, wagger 1BTC) You bet 1BTC with 50% chance to get 2BTC On lose, you lose 1 BTC. (Bank 1BTC, wagger 2BTC) so you reached rollover, and can payout 1BTC On win, You earn 1BTC. (Bank 3BTC, wagger 2BTC) so you reached rollover, and can payout 3BTC Even if you lose or win, you'll reach rollover, but you got 50% to withdraw 1BTC, or 3BTC, so on average, you'll withdrawn 2BTC.  So let's do the math now. Back to Step 1. You have 50% to lose (lose all), 50% to win (rollover is 100% reached after that, with 2BTC ready to withdrawn on average) So in average, each 2 people that play, one of them probably will get it.  Try it with 1 BTC that you need 3x for rollover now. playing at 33,3% chance of winning it, you'll see that the probably will be 33,3% to reach the rollover. that mean 1 each 3 people Now do it with 1BTC with 40x rollover. bla, congratulations, You'll have the same proportional chance with rollover. Your math is great but I think it will not work on slot games because we cant choose the win chance on slot games, as what I said before its all about luck. Maybe your math will work on roulette, but unfortunately roulette only give 20% contribution to the wagered amount.




yakuza699


May 12, 2015, 10:52:37 AM 

Your math is great but I think it will not work on slot games because we cant choose the win chance on slot games, as what I said before its all about luck. Maybe your math will work on roulette, but unfortunately roulette only give 20% contribution to the wagered amount.
I hope you were talking sarcastically.He was talking like all the games counts towards roll over requirement at 100% so I'll talk the same.YOU ARE NOT FORCED TO BET ON X2 ODDS.Imagine playing roulette.There are 36 numbers plus 0.You have to wager it 40 times.You bet 0.5BTC on red and 0.5BTC on black.If you bet you win nothing but you wager if you roll 0 your done.The probability of losing is 1 in 37 and the probability of winning is 36 in 37.So on average you'll wager x36 times.The math from here might be wrong(I do not have time to check).But if the odds of losing is 2.7%(100/37) then the odds of winning should be x1.027 so for betting 40 times at x1.027 that is a x2.08 chance of completing the roll over.That's every two people.Again the last statement might be wrong.




iawgoM


May 15, 2015, 10:00:59 AM 

Added to my site (sig). Hope that OP is satisfied  if not, PM me!




arallmuus


May 15, 2015, 10:10:34 AM 

Hi Arallmuus!
We appreciate your report on the bug, if you could provide us your username we would like to issue you a bonus for it. Posting this and hope to receive a follow up based on this. I submitted my account via PM already and hasnt heard back from birwo Checked up Birwo and I was surprised to see Your account is disabled It seems like it is link with the IP address and so that every account that I created will be disabled in the future. Funny thing is that Im then one who reported this after I found out the bug was having this disabled account issue as well. Nevertheless, Birwo if you check on this, please feel free to post here or PM me regarding if I needed to create a new account and submit my username again to redeem the bounty for the bug report. Thankyou ! P.S : waiting for follow up regarding this soon ! Received the promised bounty just today ! which is almost a week after the promise, No complain here whatsoever since it is a free coins. Birwo creditted my account with 0.1 BTC which I thought is the bounty Bounty but instead it is another no deposit bonus. Sent them a few email through support form and chatted them through livechat like 14 hours ago and finally they send me 0.05 BTC to my wallet. The support are helpful if you are chatting them through livechat but if you send up an email to them then you would expect to get the reply longer than you thought . P.S : thankyou very much birwo for the bounty , no complain here whatsoever




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May 16, 2015, 02:59:48 AM Last edit: May 16, 2015, 03:59:41 AM by Birwo 

★ Join Birwo’s First Weekend Tournament! .5 BTC GUARANTEED prizes ★ ✪ Prizes:✪  1st Place: .25 BTC!
 2nd Place: .15 BTC!
 3rd Place: .1 BTC!
All prizes will be paid directly to specified BTC address by the users (Not casino bonus!).
Point counting starts May 16th, 03:00 UTC. and ends May 19th, 03:00 UTC. ★ To Participate: ★ 1. Make at least 1 deposit of minimum .01 after the tournament start time. 2. Play any game at Birwo, where you feel you have the best chances of winning! 3. WINS SUM ONLY will be counted as points. For example, bet 10mBTC on a hand of Blackjack and win the hand. Your wins sum now is .01 points, it doesn’t matter if you decrease by 5mBTC on the next hand your WINS SUM is still 10mBTC. 4. You can verify your wins sum by bet on your profile page, using the starting date of the tournament. 5. Leaderboard will be updated on our social media profiles during the tournament. (First 3 places) 6. Prizes are GUARANTEED, it does not matter the number of participants. Earnings and points are managed separately, players can keep their earnings and plus receive the prize for the tournament.




WEBcreator


May 16, 2015, 03:21:40 AM 

3. WINS SUM ONLY will be counted as points.
this is not a good promo, why would the winning be counted just as points? if people win 1 btc from the deposits and only win the first rank, he will then only get 0.25 btc . People should be able to keep the winning btc as well to make it more interesting




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May 16, 2015, 03:46:22 AM 

★ Join Birwo’s First Weekend Tournament! .5 BTC GUARANTEED prizes ★ ✪ Prizes:✪  1st Place: .25 BTC!
 2nd Place: .15 BTC!
 3rd Place: .1 BTC!
All prizes will be paid directly to specified BTC address by the users (Not casino bonus!).
Point counting starts May 16th, 03:00 UTC. and ends May 19th, 03:00 UTC. ★ To Participate: ★ 1. Make at least 1 deposit of minimum .01 after the tournament start time. 2. Play any game at Birwo, where you feel you have the best chances of winning! 3. WINS SUM ONLY will be counted as points. For example, bet 10mBTC on a hand of Blackjack and win the hand. Your wins sum now is .01 points, it doesn’t matter if you decrease by 5mBTC on the next hand your WINS SUM is still 10mBTC. 4. You can verify your wins sum by bet on your profile page, using the starting date of the tournament. 5. Leaderboard will be updated on our social media profiles during the tournament. (First 3 places) 6. Prizes are GUARANTEED, it does not matter the number of participants. A little bit confuse with the prizes, what you say in this thread is different with what you say in the promotion email. I received an email about this weekend tournament but the prizes listed in the email are : 1st place : 2.5btc, 2nd place : 1.5btc and 3rd place : 1btc So, which one is the correct/actual prizes?




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May 16, 2015, 03:50:17 AM 

3. WINS SUM ONLY will be counted as points.
this is not a good promo, why would the winning be counted just as points? if people win 1 btc from the deposits and only win the first rank, he will then only get 0.25 btc . People should be able to keep the winning btc as well to make it more interesting Hi WEBcreator! Sorry, we forgot to specify: Earnings and points are totally different. If you get 1 BTC from your earnings you can withdraw it. Points are counted separately and the prize is also awarded separately. For example if you earn 1 BTC in the tournament and you're also the first place at the end of the tournament, your cashout would be of 1.25 BTC! Thanks for helping us clarify this. Good luck!




