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January 03, 2015, 09:53:16 AM |
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How is your inquisition going redsnow?
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redsn0w
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January 03, 2015, 09:56:45 AM |
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How is your inquisition going redsnow?
I think all is resolved now. Mine it was only a mistake , but now I've paid my error ( and i don't provide anymore my escrow service here). *redsn 0w not redsnow /thanks.
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needFREElunch
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January 03, 2015, 10:11:58 AM |
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How is your inquisition going redsnow?
I think all is resolved now. Mine it was only a mistake , but now I've paid my error ( and i don't provide anymore my escrow service here). *redsn 0w not redsnow /thanks. I am not sure if not being escrow anymore if really paying for your error
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redsn0w
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January 03, 2015, 10:16:55 AM |
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How is your inquisition going redsnow?
I think all is resolved now. Mine it was only a mistake , but now I've paid my error ( and i don't provide anymore my escrow service here). *redsn 0w not redsnow /thanks. I am not sure if not being escrow anymore if really paying for your error At the end it was an error but all was resolved , so I think it is more secure don't offer anymore my escrow service.
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MadZ
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January 03, 2015, 10:18:46 AM |
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How is your inquisition going redsnow?
I think all is resolved now. Mine it was only a mistake , but now I've paid my error ( and i don't provide anymore my escrow service here). *redsn 0w not redsnow /thanks. I am not sure if not being escrow anymore if really paying for your error I think he has paid for his error, he lost a lot of the trust the community had placed in him, his decision to stop escrowing is a result of this. In the end, the account was recovered and no one actually lost anything of value, I'm not sure how else you think he should be "paying for his error".
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redsn0w
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January 03, 2015, 10:22:29 AM |
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How is your inquisition going redsnow?
I think all is resolved now. Mine it was only a mistake , but now I've paid my error ( and i don't provide anymore my escrow service here). *redsn 0w not redsnow /thanks. I am not sure if not being escrow anymore if really paying for your error I think he has paid for his error, he lost a lot of the trust the community had placed in him, his decision to stop escrowing is a result of this. In the end, the account was recovered and no one actually lost anything of value, I'm not sure how else you think he should be "paying for his error". Yes for my stupid mistake I've almost ruined my reputation here , anyway that troll has been a very "bastard".
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January 03, 2015, 10:27:02 AM |
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How is your inquisition going redsnow?
I think all is resolved now. Mine it was only a mistake , but now I've paid my error ( and i don't provide anymore my escrow service here). *redsn 0w not redsnow /thanks. I am not sure if not being escrow anymore if really paying for your error I think he has paid for his error, he lost a lot of the trust the community had placed in him, his decision to stop escrowing is a result of this. In the end, the account was recovered and no one actually lost anything of value, I'm not sure how else you think he should be "paying for his error". Yes for my stupid mistake I've almost ruined my reputation here , anyway that troll has been a very "bastard". You see now how easy people here make it for random trolls to destroy everything in their path?
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MadZ
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January 03, 2015, 10:33:26 AM |
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How is your inquisition going redsnow?
I think all is resolved now. Mine it was only a mistake , but now I've paid my error ( and i don't provide anymore my escrow service here). *redsn 0w not redsnow /thanks. I am not sure if not being escrow anymore if really paying for your error I think he has paid for his error, he lost a lot of the trust the community had placed in him, his decision to stop escrowing is a result of this. In the end, the account was recovered and no one actually lost anything of value, I'm not sure how else you think he should be "paying for his error". Yes for my stupid mistake I've almost ruined my reputation here , anyway that troll has been a very "bastard". Your reputation isn't ruined, in my opinion, you're still pretty much as trustworthy an individual to trade with as beforehand. All this incident does is reflect negatively on your competency as an escrow, which you addressed by closing those services.
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needFREElunch
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January 03, 2015, 03:46:12 PM |
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How is your inquisition going redsnow?
I think all is resolved now. Mine it was only a mistake , but now I've paid my error ( and i don't provide anymore my escrow service here). *redsn 0w not redsnow /thanks. I am not sure if not being escrow anymore if really paying for your error I think he has paid for his error, he lost a lot of the trust the community had placed in him, his decision to stop escrowing is a result of this. In the end, the account was recovered and no one actually lost anything of value, I'm not sure how else you think he should be "paying for his error". This is not entirely true. He says he is no longer escrow I do not make anymore as escrow for the community due to my stupid mistake. Thanks to all you guys , when moreia will repay the loan I will send him the access data of his account.
However this is not the case. Hello redsn0w As you stopped your escrow service will you continue for this site?
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Yes I will continue to manage this signature campaign , if the admin of the site want (I think it is not a problem). He is also apparently escrowing the prize for the auction crypro signature contest as per this thread People are still recommending and asking to use him as escrow publicly. He still is publicly rejecting these requests.
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redsn0w
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January 03, 2015, 03:58:34 PM |
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Maybe one day I will "restart" my escrow service but not more for deal that involved forum account .
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Serge V.
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January 04, 2015, 10:25:35 AM |
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What conclusion from this story can make everyone? - Never trust to the third party (YOU DO NOT NEED TO DO THIS!!!), use MultiSig transactions escrow for valuable things, only this can protect You from third party error...
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Veritas Escrow Service [ EN] [ RU] Tox ID: 25AFA2F787DD955FBF7AFC1FB0F3B6ED3040FE020891476F754777F01ECE936ECDBE0FAF1C1B
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Magic8Ball
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January 04, 2015, 11:00:15 AM |
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What conclusion from this story can make everyone? - Never trust to the third party (YOU DO NOT NEED TO DO THIS!!!), use MultiSig transactions escrow for valuable things, only this can protect You from third party error...
If you had checked this thread. you would have seen MultiSig could not have prevented this. It was a simple, and costly, oversight from redsn0w.
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applesRyummy
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January 04, 2015, 11:05:44 AM |
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What conclusion from this story can make everyone? - Never trust to the third party (YOU DO NOT NEED TO DO THIS!!!), use MultiSig transactions escrow for valuable things, only this can protect You from third party error...
If you had checked this thread. you would have seen MultiSig could not have prevented this. It was a simple, and costly, oversight from redsn0w. I am actually surprised as to how many people were using him as escrow in the first place. I saw him setup an escrow transaction from his phone (at least that is what he was saying he was doing). I highly doubt that he would be able to maintain sufficient security nor would he be able to PGP sign any message from his phone
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SirChiko
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January 04, 2015, 11:08:54 AM |
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What conclusion from this story can make everyone? - Never trust to the third party (YOU DO NOT NEED TO DO THIS!!!), use MultiSig transactions escrow for valuable things, only this can protect You from third party error...
If you had checked this thread. you would have seen MultiSig could not have prevented this. It was a simple, and costly, oversight from redsn0w. I am actually surprised as to how many people were using him as escrow in the first place. I saw him setup an escrow transaction from his phone (at least that is what he was saying he was doing). I highly doubt that he would be able to maintain sufficient security nor would he be able to PGP sign any message from his phone Well it's possible to do, we don't have nokias 3310 anymore it's called smartphones with smart apps.
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Serge V.
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January 04, 2015, 12:13:40 PM Last edit: January 12, 2015, 12:07:00 AM by Serge V. |
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What conclusion from this story can make everyone? - Never trust to the third party (YOU DO NOT NEED TO DO THIS!!!), use MultiSig transactions escrow for valuable things, only this can protect You from third party error...
If you had checked this thread. you would have seen MultiSig could not have prevented this. It was a simple, and costly, oversight from redsn0w. You are wrong, I had checked this thread carefully. In case of using MultiSig (example): 1. Moreia want to loan 0.8 btc from lihuajkl and will provide own acc. for collateral. 2. redsn0w creates 2-of-2(3) MultiSig address from Moreia and lihuajkl public keys. 3. lihuajkl sends 1.6 btc to MultiSig address. 4. Moreia transfers his acc. to lihuajkl after tx completion. 5. redsn0w prepares 0.8 btc tx from MultiSig address to Moreia. 6. lihuajkl and Moreia check and sign it, 0.8 btc goes to Moreia. lihuajkl is responsible for security of Moreia acc., in case of failure he can lose 0.8+0.8 btc. Moreia is interested to return 0.8 btc, otherwise he can lose his acc. redsn0w is interested to be everything smoothly because he can lose his 1% fee and reputation (funds can be returned back via private keys input). 7. Moreia returns 0.8 btc back to the MultiSig address. 8. After tx completion lihuajkl returns acc. back to Moreia. 9. redsn0w prepares 1.6 btc tx back to lihuajkl (-1% to redsn0w). 10. lihuajkl and Moreia check and sign tx, 1.6 btc goes back to lihuajkl (-1% to redsn0w). Everything is secure. Everyone is happy in any possible situation.
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Veritas Escrow Service [ EN] [ RU] Tox ID: 25AFA2F787DD955FBF7AFC1FB0F3B6ED3040FE020891476F754777F01ECE936ECDBE0FAF1C1B
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Serge V.
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January 04, 2015, 12:19:41 PM Last edit: January 04, 2015, 04:03:00 PM by Serge V. |
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I am actually surprised as to how many people were using him as escrow in the first place. I saw him setup an escrow transaction from his phone (at least that is what he was saying he was doing). I highly doubt that he would be able to maintain sufficient security nor would he be able to PGP sign any message from his phone
Well it's possible to do, we don't have nokias 3310 anymore it's called smartphones with smart apps. Funny trolls. Where are You?
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Veritas Escrow Service [ EN] [ RU] Tox ID: 25AFA2F787DD955FBF7AFC1FB0F3B6ED3040FE020891476F754777F01ECE936ECDBE0FAF1C1B
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applesRyummy
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January 05, 2015, 12:39:16 AM |
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What conclusion from this story can make everyone? - Never trust to the third party (YOU DO NOT NEED TO DO THIS!!!), use MultiSig transactions escrow for valuable things, only this can protect You from third party error...
If you had checked this thread. you would have seen MultiSig could not have prevented this. It was a simple, and costly, oversight from redsn0w. I am actually surprised as to how many people were using him as escrow in the first place. I saw him setup an escrow transaction from his phone (at least that is what he was saying he was doing). I highly doubt that he would be able to maintain sufficient security nor would he be able to PGP sign any message from his phone Well it's possible to do, we don't have nokias 3310 anymore it's called smartphones with smart apps. I don't know of any apps that can sign, encrypt, decrypt and verify pgp messages. Even if there was one most apps are not open source so it would be hard to make sure it is not leaking your private key somewhere. Additionally any address generated on a phone is inherently not a "cold" address
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applesRyummy
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January 05, 2015, 08:24:34 AM |
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If you were to give your private key to one of these apps then if what you are running is malicious then it has your private key and can use it at it's will. He also did not specifically say that he was using an android device. Although a quick google search did find a few iOS apps for PGP encryption. One major problem is that a phone is very easy to misplace/get stolen. This would potentially make it easy for a potential attacker to direct people to send funds to an address not actually controlled by redsn0w if he were to put down his phone for even a few seconds too long
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Serge V.
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January 05, 2015, 08:39:25 AM Last edit: January 05, 2015, 09:00:50 AM by Serge V. |
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One major problem is that a phone is very easy to misplace/get stolen. This would potentially make it easy for a potential attacker to direct people to send funds to an address not actually controlled by redsn0w if he were to put down his phone for even a few seconds too long
That is right! Only need to make correct conclusions... Smartphones have full disk encryption now adays. If you've turned it on and are using a strong passphrase and a strong lockscreen passphrase you'll be pretty protected from physical thefts. Additionally PGP keys are usually encrypted with a passphrase when not in use.
This will not protect from human error, physical compromising (soldering iron in the ass) and from disappearing of agent/service...
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Veritas Escrow Service [ EN] [ RU] Tox ID: 25AFA2F787DD955FBF7AFC1FB0F3B6ED3040FE020891476F754777F01ECE936ECDBE0FAF1C1B
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Blazr
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January 05, 2015, 08:43:20 AM |
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This will not protect from human error, physical compromising (soldering iron in the ass) and from disappearing of agent/service...
There really isn't a way to protect against thermo-rectal cryptanalysis on full disk encryption You're just as vulnerable with a laptop or a smartphone.
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