Troll takeover?

[TECSHARE]

IMO the influx of trolling and infighting is due to the fact that STAFF NOW MODERATE TRUST. This has become a very effective methods for trolls to make accusation after accusation against trusted members in order to make sure they are burned by the staff run witch hunt. This is a simple way for burned scammers and trolls to get retribution, by burning down a trusted user's hard earned trust (often takes years to build). This results in all sorts of infighting and forces long trusted members to have to defend their reputations from any user who can manage to type up a complaint about their trust rating. This is causing the community to eat itself from the inside out, and the staff are helping the trolls rip this community apart, realizing it or not.

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[ABitNut]

there are 3 types of posters in the speculation sub.
1. To The Moon!
2. Sky Is Falling!
3. Sideways forever!

none of them know what they are talking about.

I don't think anyone does when it comes to the price/valuation. I don't really go/post in the Speculation sub becsuse it seems to be just kids saying the same three things you mentioned day in day out thread after thread.

To be fair there are a few members trying to analyse the market using various tools and I found a (very) few threads in the speculation subforum interesting enough to watch. While the majority falls into the before mentioned three groups there are a few notable exceptions.

I think that as was said above, too many folks bought into bitcoin at the same time as a sort of get-rich-quick scheme.  This is what caused the price to skyrocket so high.  Now, slowly but surely, these folks decide "whoops" and sell off their bitcoins.  Those of us who bought in early haven't lost money and are still around, still hashing blocks, still developing cool technology on the protocol. 

I don't feel the "Get rich quick" group generally would spend lots of time and energy venting their resentment on this forum. It doesn't really benefit them in any way. I would expect them to at most make a few posts and then to move on. What would motivate them to keep complaining for more than a month? I think there must be other motivators for the sustained trolling. Market manipulation seems the most obvious one to me, though I wonder if posting on this forum is an effective to manipulate anything.

IMO the influx of trolling and infighting is due to the fact that STAFF NOW MODERATE TRUST. This has become a very effective methods for trolls to make accusation after accusation against trusted members in order to make sure they are burned by the staff run witch hunt. This is a simple way for burned scammers and trolls to get retribution, by burning down a trusted user's hard earned trust (often takes years to build). This results in all sorts of infighting and forces long trusted members to have to defend their reputations from any user who can manage to type up a complaint about their trust rating. This is causing the community to eat itself from the inside out, and the staff are helping the trolls rip this community apart, realizing it or not.

Since when do staff moderate trust? I never got that memo... Is it true? Sounds like you got burnt and are taking it out on... Anyone other then yourself. Just my totally unfounded opinion though.

[Vod]

IMO the influx of trolling and infighting is due to the fact that STAFF NOW MODERATE TRUST. T

Since when do staff moderate trust? I never got that memo... Is it true? Sounds like you got burnt and are taking it out on... Anyone other then yourself. Just my totally unfounded opinion though.

Staff don't moderate trust.  TECSHARE hopes that if he lies enough times, some people will start to believe him and propagate the lie further.

[TECSHARE]

IMO the influx of trolling and infighting is due to the fact that STAFF NOW MODERATE TRUST. This has become a very effective methods for trolls to make accusation after accusation against trusted members in order to make sure they are burned by the staff run witch hunt. This is a simple way for burned scammers and trolls to get retribution, by burning down a trusted user's hard earned trust (often takes years to build). This results in all sorts of infighting and forces long trusted members to have to defend their reputations from any user who can manage to type up a complaint about their trust rating. This is causing the community to eat itself from the inside out, and the staff are helping the trolls rip this community apart, realizing it or not.

Since when do staff moderate trust? I never got that memo... Is it true? Sounds like you got burnt and are taking it out on... Anyone other then yourself. Just my totally unfounded opinion though.

They like to tell everyone they don't moderate trust but they clearly do. They do so by threatening removal of trust from individuals lower in their trust tree in order to extort action from lower level trusted users. If you really care about my personal involvement in the issue you can read about it here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=853522.msg9495269#msg9495269

[Vod]

They like to tell everyone they don't moderate trust but they clearly do.

No they don't.  You're just upset you couldn't handle the responsibilities of DefaultTrust.   

[hilariousandco]

IMO the influx of trolling and infighting is due to the fact that STAFF NOW MODERATE TRUST.

Jesus Christ  . Sigh. It's embarrassing watching you continually spout this nonsense. I cannot believe you actually think the trolls here are a byproduct of staff 'moderating' trust (which they are not). I'm done with you now. You are clearly not rational.

there are 3 types of posters in the speculation sub.
1. To The Moon!
2. Sky Is Falling!
3. Sideways forever!

none of them know what they are talking about.

I don't think anyone does when it comes to the price/valuation. I don't really go/post in the Speculation sub becsuse it seems to be just kids saying the same three things you mentioned day in day out thread after thread.

To be fair there are a few members trying to analyse the market using various tools and I found a (very) few threads in the speculation subforum interesting enough to watch. While the majority falls into the before mentioned three groups there are a few notable exceptions.

People can try make predictions based on charts or other such 'tools' but have any of them ever been even remotely right? I haven't seen any.

Since when do staff moderate trust? I never got that memo... Is it true? Sounds like you got burnt and are taking it out on... Anyone other then yourself. Just my totally unfounded opinion though.

It's a bingo (but now yet another thread derailed by Techshare).

[TECSHARE]

IMO the influx of trolling and infighting is due to the fact that STAFF NOW MODERATE TRUST. T

Since when do staff moderate trust? I never got that memo... Is it true? Sounds like you got burnt and are taking it out on... Anyone other then yourself. Just my totally unfounded opinion though.

Staff don't moderate trust.  TECSHARE hopes that if he lies enough times, some people will start to believe him and propagate the lie further.

It is funny you say that now, because at the time you seemed to agree with my position. Funny how that changed once I started openly criticizing your own trust practices.

Quote from: TECSHARE on November 06, 2014, 09:47:05 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on November 06, 2014, 08:42:23 AM
these:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=32469.msg9438249#msg9438249
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=844619.msg9437997#msg9437997
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=709278.msg9438300#msg9438300
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=35656.msg9438146#msg9438146

This has nothing to do with risk. It is the principal of the matter. He shouldn't have been doing what he was doing in the first place. He was provided many opportunities to leave or diffuse the situation, instead every step of the way he chose to escalate. I have already taken several steps to deescalate this situation. He has taken none.

I feel I have zero obligations to compromise with him in any way, especially since he has demonstrated he is unwilling to do so when offered. Instead he opted to dictate to me what he wants done. He has no leverage at this point. Regardless of this I am again stating I am open to deleting his feedback if he removes his posts in my op, locks this thread, and deletes me from his signature. He can learn to act like an adult or live with my feedback. Its his choice.

VOD: That's fair.  I would react the same way.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846683.msg9453332#msg9453332

VODS edited post:

They like to tell everyone they don't moderate trust but they clearly do.

No they don't.  You're just upset you couldn't handle the responsibilities of DefaultTrust.   

You decided to retract your outright accusations that I am lying by editing your post. I suppose that is a good step. As far as my "responsibilities", no one ever asked me to agree to any responsibilities or explained anything to me, I was just added one day because I take extraneous efforts to make sure everyone I deal with is treated fairly, but feel free to edit the narrative any way you like after the fact.

[Vod]

It is funny you say that now, because at the time you seemed to agree with my position. Funny how that changed once I started openly criticizing your own trust practices.

It's funny you post that now, because you used to agree with my position when you were in the DefaultTrust.   

[TECSHARE]

It is funny you say that now, because at the time you seemed to agree with my position. Funny how that changed once I started openly criticizing your own trust practices.

It's funny you post that now, because you used to agree with my position when you were in the DefaultTrust.   

So because I didn't openly criticize you that means I supported you? No not really. In fact I told explicitly you that I thought your behavior was becoming excessive, but instead of controlling yourself you became even worse.

[Vod]

So because I didn't openly criticize you that means I supported you?

So because the moderators here don't openly criticize me, you think that means they support me?

[ABitNut]

To be fair there are a few members trying to analyse the market using various tools and I found a (very) few threads in the speculation subforum interesting enough to watch. While the majority falls into the before mentioned three groups there are a few notable exceptions.

People can try make predictions based on charts or other such 'tools' but have any of them ever been even remotely right? I haven't seen any.

No tool is perfect, and I reckon a lot comes down to the skill / instinct / talent or whatever of the user. I have found https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=672187.0 useful. And yes, I do think they have been remotely right. Not everytime, but hey... You don't have to win every single trade as long your bottom line ends up positive. If you can't deal with loss then trading is not for you. Even the best make bad trades too.

[TECSHARE]

So because I didn't openly criticize you that means I supported you?

So because the moderators here don't openly criticize me, you think that means they support me?

No, clearly it is because no action is ever taken against you that it is clear they support you, while others are thrown under a bus after a single incident. Keep practicing those mental gymnastics, maybe some day you will get the medal.

[Vod]

No, clearly it is because no action is ever taken against you that it is clear they support you, while others are thrown under a bus after a single incident. Keep practicing those mental gymnastics, maybe some day you will get the medal.

One day I may get my single incident and get removed like you were.  But so far I'm smart enough to do the right thing.   

[TECSHARE]

No, clearly it is because no action is ever taken against you that it is clear they support you, while others are thrown under a bus after a single incident. Keep practicing those mental gymnastics, maybe some day you will get the medal.

One day I may get my single incident and get removed like you were.  But so far I'm smart enough to do the right thing.   

Lol single incident. Thats funny. You don't even have a single complaint let alone a single incident. You have dozens of complaints, and lots of feedback that clearly doesn't follow the guidelines for leaving negative trust. I however have left about 6 total negative feed backs since the trust system existed. It would take a while to count how many you have left. Your situation and my situation are in no way the same, other than the fact that I was punished for something you do quite regularly. Even after stacks of incidents, many of which you refuse to cooperate in, you are not punished or even publicly redressed by the staff.

[Vod]

You don't even have a single complaint let alone a single incident. You have dozens of complaints

Yep - I'm with hilarious on this one.  You are a nut job.   

[freedomno1]

Man, is it just me or has this whole forum been taken over by trolls shouting "the sky is falling" in the last few days?

What gives folks?

I was going to say its a surge of interest because of Bitstamp crashing combined with some people looking at it in the new year
But I like the beartard argument myself

[TECSHARE]

You don't even have a single complaint let alone a single incident. You have dozens of complaints

Yep - I'm with hilarious on this one.  You are a nut job.   

Is this another one of those insults you didn't make?

[Lauda]

So this is becoming one of those threads where someone fights Vod again?
No, staff doesn't clearly moderate the trust system. Unless you can find evidence to back up your claims, you should keep quiet.

[iCEBREAKER]

Man, is it just me or has this whole forum been taken over by trolls shouting "the sky is falling" in the last few days?

What gives folks?

This is itself a troll post.

That's why it's in the Meta sub.

[TECSHARE]

So this is becoming one of those threads where someone fights Vod again?
No, staff doesn't clearly moderate the trust system. Unless you can find evidence to back up your claims, you should keep quiet.

You were asking for evidence?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=917438.0