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May 22, 2011, 05:35:03 AM
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No! Not a usb stick!


What we need is an MP3-player-ish Bitcoin dispenser Fallout style. ;^)

It should have a LCD display to show balance/transfer status etc, and two dispensers should have syncing ability (wired or wireless).

Another requirement would be dual flash chips and/or memory cardslot for redundancy.

Obviously this would take some development by a company with deep pockets.



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May 22, 2011, 05:48:13 AM
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No! Not a usb stick!


What we need is an MP3-player-ish Bitcoin dispenser Fallout style. ;^)

It should have a LCD display to show balance/transfer status etc, and two dispensers should have syncing ability (wired or wireless).

Another requirement would be dual flash chips and/or memory cardslot for redundancy.

Obviously this would take some development by a company with deep pockets.

better idea, have a version in java of the bitcoin official's client for cellphones (like for my Nokia 2730 Classic, for example) wich you have a bitcoin address and you can charge it with some money, so, you go to a..... idk, a Cafe, for example, and plug the bluetooth on to receive the bitcoins address of the Cafe and pay what you eat...

anyway, there exist the Bit bills too! Cheesy

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May 22, 2011, 05:48:50 AM
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May 22, 2011, 06:28:23 AM
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Awesome, awesome idea. If you can, try and get it to work with the Android client, maybe drop them a message. https://github.com/bitcoin-labs/bitcoin-mobile-android

So you take your android with you, but if you know you need money, you also take the USB key with you, which can be attached to your keyring.

Keys are easier to keep on you than an android or a usb key because they can (and are) clipped to clothes.

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May 22, 2011, 06:34:45 AM
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better idea, have a version in java of the bitcoin official's client for cellphones (like for my Nokia 2730 Classic, for example)

A cellphone client with NFC support is going to be required if we ever want bitcoin to be seriously considered in the third world. Everyone has a cell phone, but a lot of people lack computers or even electricity.
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May 22, 2011, 12:54:41 PM
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proprietary OS-powered device ? RIM ? PIM ? security ? hardly.

? what about Android .. isn't that Open?

Yes, android is a version of Linux.  Notice that none of the open source programmers here have released anything bitcoin related for the closed source OS's for smartphones.

a version of Linux? hmm... yeah, just the Linux Kernel, as far i know, Linux is not a OS.

and with http://bitbills.com you no get viruses or trojans :-|

Android is a linux kernel and a custom JVM (Java Virtual Machine) that uses its own bytecode rather than standard java bytecode. The whole system is indeed open, but a lot of manufacturers lock it down with tricks like locked bootloaders to prevent reflashing a custom firmware.
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May 22, 2011, 02:02:54 PM
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hardly Android is "open", let alone talks about "freedom".
its so outdated/crippled/twisted so it back to Linus tree only after Google pressure.
its based on Linux kernel. but thats almost all.
difference between Google and Microsoft[&Apple. for example] is mainly imaginary - same HR resources, same money behind,  same ideology, similar technology/strategy. why someone consider then "Open" ? just because they "good" ? and/or exploit/crowdsource FLOSS-related things little more intensive than Microsoft[yes, Microsoft use Linux. years ago]? unlikely.
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May 22, 2011, 02:50:29 PM
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hardly Android is "open", let alone talks about "freedom".
its so outdated/crippled/twisted so it back to Linus tree only after Google pressure.
its based on Linux kernel. but thats almost all.
difference between Google and Microsoft[&Apple. for example] is mainly imaginary - same HR resources, same money behind,  same ideology, similar technology/strategy. why someone consider then "Open" ? just because they "good" ? and/or exploit/crowdsource FLOSS-related things little more intensive than Microsoft[yes, Microsoft use Linux. years ago]? unlikely.
You can build your own android firmware image yourself, all the source is available. How is that not open?
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May 22, 2011, 03:35:18 PM
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keeping a spending wallet with you is okay.  Bitbills is more elegant though.
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May 22, 2011, 03:45:27 PM
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hardly Android is "open", let alone talks about "freedom".
its so outdated/crippled/twisted so it back to Linus tree only after Google pressure.
its based on Linux kernel. but thats almost all.
difference between Google and Microsoft[&Apple. for example] is mainly imaginary - same HR resources, same money behind,  same ideology, similar technology/strategy. why someone consider then "Open" ? just because they "good" ? and/or exploit/crowdsource FLOSS-related things little more intensive than Microsoft[yes, Microsoft use Linux. years ago]? unlikely.
You can build your own android firmware image yourself, all the source is available. How is that not open?
you can do same with WM SDK[with or without source]. or QNX[same]. does it make it "open" ?
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May 22, 2011, 05:01:49 PM
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you also take the USB key with you, which can be attached to your keyring.

check out https://www.plugwallet.com/whatIsPlugWallet.jsp

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May 22, 2011, 06:26:04 PM
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hardly Android is "open", let alone talks about "freedom".
its so outdated/crippled/twisted so it back to Linus tree only after Google pressure.
its based on Linux kernel. but thats almost all.
difference between Google and Microsoft[&Apple. for example] is mainly imaginary - same HR resources, same money behind,  same ideology, similar technology/strategy. why someone consider then "Open" ? just because they "good" ? and/or exploit/crowdsource FLOSS-related things little more intensive than Microsoft[yes, Microsoft use Linux. years ago]? unlikely.
You can build your own android firmware image yourself, all the source is available. How is that not open?
you can do same with WM SDK[with or without source]. or QNX[same]. does it make it "open" ?

WM = Windows Mobile? Where's the source?
QNX: source is only available for pay

How precisely is android less open than any other open source project? How are you defining "open"?
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May 22, 2011, 06:34:04 PM
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hardly Android is "open", let alone talks about "freedom".
its so outdated/crippled/twisted so it back to Linus tree only after Google pressure.
its based on Linux kernel. but thats almost all.
difference between Google and Microsoft[&Apple. for example] is mainly imaginary - same HR resources, same money behind,  same ideology, similar technology/strategy. why someone consider then "Open" ? just because they "good" ? and/or exploit/crowdsource FLOSS-related things little more intensive than Microsoft[yes, Microsoft use Linux. years ago]? unlikely.
You can build your own android firmware image yourself, all the source is available. How is that not open?
you can do same with WM SDK[with or without source]. or QNX[same]. does it make it "open" ?

WM = Windows Mobile? Where's the source?
QNX: source is only available for pay

How precisely is android less open than any other open source project? How are you defining "open"?
who care about source ? we're talk about freedom.
re-release GPL-dependent content under Apache-alike license[whichs against GPL and effectively invalidate Google rights to use/access to it] ? its about "Freedom" ? unlikely.
p.s. how much/how big part of their "OS" sources codes Goodle ACTUALLY contribute back/publish ?
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May 22, 2011, 06:42:59 PM
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who care about source ? we're talk about freedom.
re-release GPL-dependent content under Apache-alike license[whichs against GPL and effectively invalidate Google rights to use/access to it] ? its about "Freedom" ? unlikely.
p.s. how much/how big part of their "OS" sources codes Goodle ACTUALLY contribute back/publish ?

By all means, continue to rage against the machine, but I have a feeling that no available mobile operating system will satisfy your high standards.  As for the rest of us, we really need to find a practical solution to the bitcoin portability problem, and Android seems to be the best fit.
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May 22, 2011, 07:10:23 PM
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who care about source ? we're talk about freedom.
re-release GPL-dependent content under Apache-alike license[whichs against GPL and effectively invalidate Google rights to use/access to it] ? its about "Freedom" ? unlikely.
p.s. how much/how big part of their "OS" sources codes Goodle ACTUALLY contribute back/publish ?

By all means, continue to rage against the machine, but I have a feeling that no available mobile operating system will satisfy your high standards.  As for the rest of us, we really need to find a practical solution to the bitcoin portability problem, and Android seems to be the best fit.

yeah, Android look like the best option, but, in Zimbabwe can buy a android phone? even can they buy a Nokia 2730?
we have to think in a nation with the worst technology to make something useful starting there, idk if you understand me! :p

some people say Open Source open minds i preferred Free software for free society is more transcendental !

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May 22, 2011, 08:38:54 PM
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No! Not a usb stick!


What we need is an MP3-player-ish Bitcoin dispenser Fallout style. ;^)

It should have a LCD display to show balance/transfer status etc, and two dispensers should have syncing ability (wired or wireless).

Another requirement would be dual flash chips and/or memory cardslot for redundancy.

Obviously this would take some development by a company with deep pockets.





Sansa Clip+ can run the Open Source firmware replacement Rockbox.  http://www.rockbox.org/.  Perhaps it's possible to add bitcoin related functions?  It has a microSD slot as well.
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May 22, 2011, 08:47:35 PM
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LaCie makes coin-shaped USB Drives.

http://www.lacie.com/us/products/product.htm?id=10342

And there are customizable credit-card shaped usb drives available: http://www.customusb.com/products-flashcard-carddiskflip.html

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May 23, 2011, 01:42:45 AM
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who care about source ? we're talk about freedom.
re-release GPL-dependent content under Apache-alike license[whichs against GPL and effectively invalidate Google rights to use/access to it] ? its about "Freedom" ? unlikely.
p.s. how much/how big part of their "OS" sources codes Goodle ACTUALLY contribute back/publish ?

By all means, continue to rage against the machine, but I have a feeling that no available mobile operating system will satisfy your high standards.  As for the rest of us, we really need to find a practical solution to the bitcoin portability problem, and Android seems to be the best fit.
"best fit" ? IMO, no.
does Android 1st Linux OS for mobile devices ? No.
does Android affect other Linux-based OS development ? Yes.
why not let break Linux itself into market ?
Nokia fail ? but thats Nokia fail and not 1st one. due to HRM error. similar mistake cost SGI too much too[for example], as well [many-many]other companies too.

so, IMO, even if developers too lazy, picking Maemo or MeeGo[in worst case]way better than Android.
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May 23, 2011, 03:33:09 AM
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I thought about a bitcoin device using this:
http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/25-usb-stick-pc-running-ubuntu.html

It needs a screen and networking, but maybe something?

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May 23, 2011, 03:37:44 AM
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I thought about a bitcoin device using this:
http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/25-usb-stick-pc-running-ubuntu.html

It needs a screen and networking, but maybe something?
yep, its closer to Subj goals/req's, IMO.
IMO, any ultra-cheap SoC with MIPS/Arm core and decent connectivity/IO interfaces and mainstream Linux distro [Debian ? Slackware ? CentOS ? Fedora ?] can do it.
and yes, smallest SoC will smaller than USB port and fully capable computer itself.
trick is to buy enough, to make it econimicaly attractive[in small batches its isn't]
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