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Author Topic: ChainProfit.com - 27+ BTC Paid | 140% Return | Running over four months now  (Read 27741 times)
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May 15, 2015, 10:05:30 PM
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Hello there!

This game is fairly simple. First, look at the snapshot of this situation:


Since investment #226 has been paid off, next pending is #227, which is 0.14 (also visible as 'Next Pending'). For #227 to get paid, Bank roll *must* cross 0.14 within next 115 hours. If that happens, SS2006 will be paid off. If not, all next investments (#228-#231) would get paid automatically, *UNLESS* someone (or some group of players) would invest the difference between 0.14 and current bank roll (which is 0.04417162 BTC).

If that amount ~0.045 BTC would be invested within next 115 hours, situation changes dramatically: investment #227 (SS2006) gets paid off, and hunkey600, johnnydepp and szycha (twice) would be put in a risk of loosing investments.

This is how this gambling works.

If you find this game attractive, feel free to use my referral link www.CrazyPonzi.com/?r=228 to register and play now! Remember however: this is gambling. You will probably loose!


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[edited a typo: next pending is of course 0.14, not 0.0014]

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A neat explanation indeed.
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May 16, 2015, 12:09:18 AM
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Just increased the minimum bet amount from 0.001 BTC to 0.01 BTC. Hopefully it does NOT affect anyone and make the game more interesting for all...
Not a good idea, really. After all payments received, my balance is 0.00635144, thus < 0.01.

Since I do not want to risk more money I can comfortably afford to loose, I will have to walk away.

Sad.

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May 16, 2015, 12:25:23 AM
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+1

A neat explanation indeed.

Thank you! You can tip me if you found it useful :-)
bitcoin:14gqm3Ax5wqtBN5AtWEtnZcu8q1ABcsehu
https://chart.googleapis.com/chart?cht=qr&chs=250x250&chl=14gqm3Ax5wqtBN5AtWEtnZcu8q1ABcsehu

(Actually: anyone can!) Especially after some unusual game-changing actions from Management:

Just increased the minimum bet amount from 0.001 BTC to 0.01 BTC. Hopefully it does NOT affect anyone and make the game more interesting for all...
Not a good idea, really. After all payments received, my balance is 0.00635144, thus < 0.01.

Since I do not want to risk more money I can comfortably afford to loose, I will have to walk away.

Sad.

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May 16, 2015, 12:54:29 AM
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Proposals for improvement.

1. Replace 00:00:00 strings of Paid / Expired investments with exact expiration date, so anyone could easily do the math to check if game is fair,
1a. add investment number that finally paid this one investment, too.

2. Put some sort of "Account history" - with deposits, bets, wining / loosing date & withdrawals.

3. Bring back 0.001 investments,

4. Never raise minimum investment than by a factor of 2.


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May 16, 2015, 11:33:17 AM
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Despite the obvious red flag in raising the minimum amount someone can "invest" by TEN TIMES, everyone should be aware of this irregularity:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060467.msg11392072#msg11392072

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May 16, 2015, 01:14:22 PM
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Daily withdrawal has been made for today...

https://blockchain.info/tx/b074ca5145d1821abaa26fdd141c5a4751afdb8cd5b9bad1a11b44ef9788f2b0

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May 16, 2015, 01:21:55 PM
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Just increased the minimum bet amount from 0.001 BTC to 0.01 BTC. Hopefully it does NOT affect anyone and make the game more interesting for all...
Not a good idea, really. After all payments received, my balance is 0.00635144, thus < 0.01.

Since I do not want to risk more money I can comfortably afford to loose, I will have to walk away.

Sad.

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szycha

I got this proposal from the players itself...


Consider to raise minimum investment to 0.01 BTC. The current margin of 0.001 BTC is too low. I think it is time to scale up. Would like to know other player's opinion as well...

Well... that is a nice suggestion. But, it would probably be better to wait a few more days before implementing it. People like to test the authenticity of the site with low amount, especially when so many scams are around in this industry.

Keep up the work and generate interest. That's all.  Wink

...though it is not permanent. I'll keep it like this for a week or so and gauge the player's interest. If it goes against, I'll bring that down again. There was in fact a disparity of investment for which big investments were not paid out. So, I thought increasing it might help players in general. For me, it is a double edged sword. In one hand, I'll lose out some players, on the other hand, if payout rises, so does my commission.

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May 17, 2015, 03:03:27 AM
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This turkey's dead. Only the same desperate people try to keep their 'investments' rotating by adding more and more into the pot.  Cheesy

SMH
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May 17, 2015, 10:25:19 AM
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This turkey's dead. Only the same desperate people try to keep their 'investments' rotating by adding more and more into the pot.  Cheesy

SMH

Your dream has been crushed quite some time... but not everyone's is. First you wer praising the game and you have started cursing as soon as you have lost. Many players have won after your loss and new players are coming. Win/loss is part of gambling and learn to take it sportingly.
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May 17, 2015, 11:30:46 AM
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Daily withdrawal has been made for today...

https://blockchain.info/tx/f2c1092c96ab3302f429103e75ecca88930cc8bc9246177016ad27c48ec05bb1

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May 17, 2015, 12:12:35 PM
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This turkey's dead. Only the same desperate people try to keep their 'investments' rotating by adding more and more into the pot.  Cheesy

SMH

Disagree.

I successfully withdrew more than I invested. Just a matter of math. And (perhaps) luck.
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May 17, 2015, 12:32:40 PM
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This turkey's dead. Only the same desperate people try to keep their 'investments' rotating by adding more and more into the pot.  Cheesy

SMH

Disagree.

I successfully withdrew more than I invested. Just a matter of math. And (perhaps) luck.

 Cheesy...Yeah after you covered your own 'investment'. LOL
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May 17, 2015, 08:43:47 PM
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Disagree.

I successfully withdrew more than I invested. Just a matter of math. And (perhaps) luck.

 Cheesy...Yeah after you covered your own 'investment'. LOL

LOL?

I deposited 0.001 on account A and withdrew 0.00250997
I also deposited 0.004 on account B and withdrew 0.00635144
Whoa! I earned 0.00386141 BTC! But in terms of ROI I got 77.2%! Not a big cash, but at this stage of www.CrazyPonzi.com/?r=228 it is just what one can get. Unfortunately, the owners decided to kill their own project by increasing minimum investment by 10 (TEN) times. That could be feasible if number of players increased by minimum 5 times, but not now. Thus I think it is wise to step back before it dies completely (somehow no-one is investing for two days now, right?)

Anyway, to sum it all up:
1. Can anyone play? - yes
2. Are the rules clear? - more or less - yes, see my previous post for details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=926237.msg11381777#msg11381777
3. Can I withdraw all my money? - yes, at daily basis
4. Is referral program working? - NO, I did not got additional money on account A after creating and funding account B (or I miss something, maybe it should be more clearly stated in some sort of Account History page to avoid doubt).
5. Is the game transparent? - to some extent only, there is no 'account history' nor deposit / withdrawal dates (there are amounts, however). There is no information WHY investment expired (i.e. bank roll amount at the time of expiration).
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May 17, 2015, 10:07:13 PM
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Just increased the minimum bet amount from 0.001 BTC to 0.01 BTC. Hopefully it does NOT affect anyone and make the game more interesting for all...
Not a good idea, really. After all payments received, my balance is 0.00635144, thus < 0.01.

Since I do not want to risk more money I can comfortably afford to loose, I will have to walk away.

Sad.

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I got this proposal from the players itself...


Consider to raise minimum investment to 0.01 BTC. The current margin of 0.001 BTC is too low. I think it is time to scale up. Would like to know other player's opinion as well...

Well... that is a nice suggestion. But, it would probably be better to wait a few more days before implementing it. People like to test the authenticity of the site with low amount, especially when so many scams are around in this industry.

Keep up the work and generate interest. That's all.  Wink

...though it is not permanent. I'll keep it like this for a week or so and gauge the player's interest. If it goes against, I'll bring that down again. There was in fact a disparity of investment for which big investments were not paid out. So, I thought increasing it might help players in general. For me, it is a double edged sword. In one hand, I'll lose out some players, on the other hand, if payout rises, so does my commission.

It seems players did not like this increase of minimum bet amount from 0.001 BTC to 0.01 BTC. So, I am changing it back to 0.001 BTC again.

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May 17, 2015, 10:24:28 PM
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4. Is referral program working? - NO, I did not got additional money on account A after creating and funding account B (or I miss something, maybe it should be more clearly stated in some sort of Account History page to avoid doubt).
Can you please confirm that account A did not get 5% referral commission when account B won a bet ? If yes, can you please PM me the details account A, account B and for which bet ID account A did not get any commission ? Please note that, referral commission is not given on investment, but on return.


5. Is the game transparent? - to some extent only, there is no 'account history' nor deposit / withdrawal dates (there are amounts, however). There is no information WHY investment expired (i.e. bank roll amount at the time of expiration).

I am providing Tx hash & amount for both Deposit & Withdrawal history. Is not that enough because, once you put that Tx hash in a block explorer, it gives you corresponding date automatically ?

Bank roll is a very dynamic one. I derive it dynamically and only compare it to update a pending to paid. Expiry function is independent of bankroll. When a bet pending time goes to zero it expires. So, providing a past bankroll for an expired bet is technically difficult for me.

As payment proof, I have just added this page - www.crazyponzi.com/proof.php

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May 18, 2015, 06:49:58 AM
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when I hit 'play', it duplicates my deposits. So stupid, its happened twice on 2 diff days now. Not impressed

The 0.06 and the 0.06876
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May 18, 2015, 01:51:43 PM
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Daily withdrawal has been made for today...

https://blockchain.info/tx/bdca110cd5b3197b46e2c361faac6c8cc0c80bdd4b1e4b553b1959eac56dde8c

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when I hit 'play', it duplicates my deposits. So stupid, its happened twice on 2 diff days now. Not impressed

The 0.06 and the 0.06876

I think it is happening because your browser has form auto-complete on and you have clicked the play button twice by mistake. Unless the click event is fired twice with the form filled up with value, this can not happen. If it was a bug, it would have happened for everyone. It is good if you please let me know your device and browser in PM, so that I can verify if there is any device or browser specific issue.

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May 18, 2015, 09:58:38 PM
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Thought to gamble a bit, created an account and deposited 0.03 BTC to it. It's got 4 confirmations on the network now, but still hasn't shown up on the balance. It seems people with funds in still keep playing, but how many confirms do you require for the funds to show up?

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May 18, 2015, 10:49:31 PM
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Thought to gamble a bit, created an account and deposited 0.03 BTC to it. It's got 4 confirmations on the network now, but still hasn't shown up on the balance. It seems people with funds in still keep playing, but how many confirms do you require for the funds to show up?

This thing has happened before as they use blockchain API which sometimes take more than usual time to forward a Tx.

So how long till my balance updates.I deposited 0.1 BTC hours ago and 9 confirmations later it's still 0. WTH?

Ideally once a payment is deposited to an address it should get forwarded to another and expected to show up within 3 confirmations. Can you please post/PM your Tx ID ?
I will, as soon as i get home.
Ok here is Tx ID: https://blockchain.info/tx/2d02dd8517c05f72f27c8896cad3b7915a248cbdcef33aba5a0cd775d4e08fd7.
Username: Schemer           

Yes I identified your deposit yesterday and sent 0.0005 BTC from our end to check what is happening. The problem is that, like many other application, I am also using blockchain.info API to create this intermediary address on which I have no control. Since yesterday blockchain.info API is having a huge backlog in forwarding funds. I created a ticket with their support and this is what they said...

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There may be a delay with funds forwarding, but they will eventually arrive. Sorry for any inconvenience.

Lot of applications are affected by this issue and I hope they solve it soon.

But eventually the balance appears...

My account balance finaly updated.Took more than 24 hrs but my coins arrived intact.
#Legit.

I'd suggest to keep a note whether your balance is getting forwarded to a new address or not. As soon as it is forwarded, it should appear in your site wallet.
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May 19, 2015, 06:15:47 AM
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Daily withdrawal has been made for today...

https://blockchain.info/tx/bdca110cd5b3197b46e2c361faac6c8cc0c80bdd4b1e4b553b1959eac56dde8c

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when I hit 'play', it duplicates my deposits. So stupid, its happened twice on 2 diff days now. Not impressed

The 0.06 and the 0.06876

I think it is happening because your browser has form auto-complete on and you have clicked the play button twice by mistake. Unless the click event is fired twice with the form filled up with value, this can not happen. If it was a bug, it would have happened for everyone. It is good if you please let me know your device and browser in PM, so that I can verify if there is any device or browser specific issue.

Strange.
Look at the times of your bets - if it would be doubled by webpage / browser, your bets would be separated by seconds. They are however separated by minutes.

Perhaps you press 'F5' to refresh page few minutes after your bet? You should rather click through page (click on the 'Dashboard' link for instance), or logout to make sure nothing would go wrong.

Creators could add a random field of type 'hidden' to bet form, and register their usage, not letting bets with already used ID.


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