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January 16, 2015, 03:19:13 AM
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I've read what it says on the site but it still confuses me. Could someone explain how they go together?
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January 16, 2015, 03:50:28 AM
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I've read what it says on the site but it still confuses me. Could someone explain how they go together?

MultiBit is a client which connects to the Blockchain

Think of the blockchain as the ledger for the entire bitcoin network.


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January 16, 2015, 04:12:48 AM
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Do you mean blockchain.info? It is an online wallet that let you backup your private keys. While multibit is a desktop wallet that does not need you to download all the blockchain.


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January 16, 2015, 04:17:56 AM
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Do you actually need multibit?
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January 16, 2015, 04:20:55 AM
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Do you actually need multibit?

Yes, because it is a wallet. But there are many wallets to choose from. You can see it on https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet.


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January 16, 2015, 04:30:59 AM
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I don't get how to set it up. I've read the instructions. Tried to do it several times but I keep screwing up.
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January 16, 2015, 04:40:01 AM
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I don't get how to set it up. I've read the instructions. Tried to do it several times but I keep screwing up.

It's just a standard program; you install it just as you would install any other software.

How is this difficult at all? In my experience, MultiBit is the simplest wallet I've tried till date; for installation as well as usage.
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January 16, 2015, 04:45:41 AM
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I don't get how to set it up. I've read the instructions. Tried to do it several times but I keep screwing up.

It's just a standard program; you install it just as you would install any other software.

How is this difficult at all? In my experience, MultiBit is the simplest wallet I've tried till date; for installation as well as usage.

Yep exactly - you can download directly from here(for Windows): https://multibit.org/releases/multibit-0.5.18/multibit-0.5.18-windows-setup.exe
then just install like standard program.
 

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January 16, 2015, 04:50:19 AM
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There are many wallets available
but MultiBit is a great light-weight wallet perfect for casual shoppers Smiley

You don't need it, but it would be a great alternative for the bandwidth/space-heavy QT version


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January 16, 2015, 04:50:47 AM
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I don't get how to set it up. I've read the instructions. Tried to do it several times but I keep screwing up.

It's just a standard program; you install it just as you would install any other software.

How is this difficult at all? In my experience, MultiBit is the simplest wallet I've tried till date; for installation as well as usage.

Do you do anything after it's installed? Like import anything?
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January 16, 2015, 04:51:56 AM
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I don't get how to set it up. I've read the instructions. Tried to do it several times but I keep screwing up.

It's just a standard program; you install it just as you would install any other software.

How is this difficult at all? In my experience, MultiBit is the simplest wallet I've tried till date; for installation as well as usage.

Do you do anything like it's installed? Like import anything?

If you have a previous wallet, you may opt to import it Smiley
if not, then you do not need to. The wallet will generate a new address for you to use!

If you need any more support I'll be more than glad to help


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January 16, 2015, 05:02:03 AM
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I don't get how to set it up. I've read the instructions. Tried to do it several times but I keep screwing up.

It's just a standard program; you install it just as you would install any other software.

How is this difficult at all? In my experience, MultiBit is the simplest wallet I've tried till date; for installation as well as usage.

Do you do anything like it's installed? Like import anything?

If you have a previous wallet, you may opt to import it Smiley
if not, then you do not need to. The wallet will generate a new address for you to use!

If you need any more support I'll be more than glad to help

My wallet is blockchain info.
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I don't get how to set it up. I've read the instructions. Tried to do it several times but I keep screwing up.

It's just a standard program; you install it just as you would install any other software.

How is this difficult at all? In my experience, MultiBit is the simplest wallet I've tried till date; for installation as well as usage.

Do you do anything like it's installed? Like import anything?

If you have a previous wallet, you may opt to import it Smiley
if not, then you do not need to. The wallet will generate a new address for you to use!

If you need any more support I'll be more than glad to help
My wallet is blockchain info.

Well, if you want to migrate to MultiBit, then you'll have to import,
but if you don't have to, then blockchain.info would be alright Smiley


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January 16, 2015, 05:18:44 AM
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I don't get how to set it up. I've read the instructions. Tried to do it several times but I keep screwing up.

It's just a standard program; you install it just as you would install any other software.

How is this difficult at all? In my experience, MultiBit is the simplest wallet I've tried till date; for installation as well as usage.

Do you do anything like it's installed? Like import anything?

If you have a previous wallet, you may opt to import it Smiley
if not, then you do not need to. The wallet will generate a new address for you to use!

If you need any more support I'll be more than glad to help
My wallet is blockchain info.

Well, if you want to migrate to MultiBit, then you'll have to import,
but if you don't have to, then blockchain.info would be alright Smiley

If I really don't need to do it then I'm going to stick with just using blockchain.info.
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January 16, 2015, 05:28:41 AM
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Online wallets are fine for getting started in bitcoin.  However, ever bitcoiner, imo, should eventually reach the maturity where they learn what a wallet is, what private keys are and how to manage them for themselves.  There have been nearly countless robberies and scams and hacks and whatnot that have befallen even the most trusted of online wallet companies.  Remember inputs.io, the wonderful site that let you make instantaneous offchain transactions?  It was so useful and trustworthy that hundreds of people simple left their bitcoins in their inputs.io accounts (I'm sure because it was easier than managing your own wallet and whatnot).  However, one day that company also just up and died and gobbled up everyones money who left it there.

These are some of the reasons why you should eventually learn to use your own wallet program.  And seriously, multibit is just a java file.  It runs on every platform (I use it on gnu/linux without an issue).  Why is so hard for you to run it?  I just do:

$ java -jar Multibit_exe.jar

I'm sure in windoze you just click the fucker.
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I've read what it says on the site but it still confuses me. Could someone explain how they go together?
wallets that you install on your pc like "bitcoin-qt" need the blockchain which is a huge file (more than 20GB) but there are wallets called "light" which don't need the whole blockchin and connect to a server and only download the "headers" which can be as big as 30 MB

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January 16, 2015, 09:32:41 AM
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I've read what it says on the site but it still confuses me. Could someone explain how they go together?
Multibit is a client of bitcoin wallet.
And Blockchain is a web site provide online wallet and block explorer.
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January 16, 2015, 09:45:21 AM
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I don't get how to set it up. I've read the instructions. Tried to do it several times but I keep screwing up.

It's just a standard program; you install it just as you would install any other software.

How is this difficult at all? In my experience, MultiBit is the simplest wallet I've tried till date; for installation as well as usage.

Do you do anything like it's installed? Like import anything?

If you have a previous wallet, you may opt to import it Smiley
if not, then you do not need to. The wallet will generate a new address for you to use!

If you need any more support I'll be more than glad to help
My wallet is blockchain info.

Well, if you want to migrate to MultiBit, then you'll have to import,
but if you don't have to, then blockchain.info would be alright Smiley

If I really don't need to do it then I'm going to stick with just using blockchain.info.

Yup you can just keep using blockchain.info as your wallet. As long as your computer isn't infected with malware and you have enabled 2FA, your bitcoin is fairly safe.

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blockchain is an online wallet for bitcoins.
for multibit i dont know. maybe others already explain it to you
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if you already have a wallet at blockchain.info, you can keep it and use it for your daily transactions.

you can also have a wallet using multibit on your pc (much safer than an online wallet) to keep more coins.

If you already have coins in your blockchain wallet, you can transfer them to your multibit by sending them to your address.

You can have as many wallets you want. And you can have as many addresses you want. Many people use different address for every single transaction. It's up to you.

hope this helps.
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if you already have a wallet at blockchain.info, you can keep it and use it for your daily transactions.

you can also have a wallet using multibit on your pc (much safer than an online wallet) to keep more coins.

If you already have coins in your blockchain wallet, you can transfer them to your multibit by sending them to your address.

You can have as many wallets you want. And you can have as many addresses you want. Many people use different address for every single transaction. It's up to you.

hope this helps.

How would setup a wallet like multibit so that I can send my bitcoins from blockchain to multibit?
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I prefer use blockchain and got first love sight on it  Grin
because it was very simple and easy to use.

No need to install , just access it in haste.

Everything you need is on blockchain.

Multibit ? I have no idea about it because I never use it.
Maybe someone under me knows about it
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if you already have a wallet at blockchain.info, you can keep it and use it for your daily transactions.

you can also have a wallet using multibit on your pc (much safer than an online wallet) to keep more coins.

If you already have coins in your blockchain wallet, you can transfer them to your multibit by sending them to your address.

You can have as many wallets you want. And you can have as many addresses you want. Many people use different address for every single transaction. It's up to you.

hope this helps.

How would setup a wallet like multibit so that I can send my bitcoins from blockchain to multibit?

1. Download the latest version on the official site https://multibit.org/
2. Install the program, and create a new wallet
3. Copy an address in your wallet
4. Log in your blockchain.info account, and send all your bitcoin to the address in step 3.

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if you already have a wallet at blockchain.info, you can keep it and use it for your daily transactions.

you can also have a wallet using multibit on your pc (much safer than an online wallet) to keep more coins.

If you already have coins in your blockchain wallet, you can transfer them to your multibit by sending them to your address.

You can have as many wallets you want. And you can have as many addresses you want. Many people use different address for every single transaction. It's up to you.

hope this helps.

How would setup a wallet like multibit so that I can send my bitcoins from blockchain to multibit?

1. Download the latest version on the official site https://multibit.org/
2. Install the program, and create a new wallet
3. Copy an address in your wallet
4. Log in your blockchain.info account, and send all your bitcoin to the address in step 3.


That's it? Okay but I don't get where I find the import file. I know I must sound like a complete idiot but I'm not techie in the least. Smiley
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You have nothing to import in multibit. Just send the bitcoins from Blockchain.info to the multibitwallet
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January 16, 2015, 02:58:18 PM
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if you already have a wallet at blockchain.info, you can keep it and use it for your daily transactions.

you can also have a wallet using multibit on your pc (much safer than an online wallet) to keep more coins.

If you already have coins in your blockchain wallet, you can transfer them to your multibit by sending them to your address.

You can have as many wallets you want. And you can have as many addresses you want. Many people use different address for every single transaction. It's up to you.

hope this helps.

How would setup a wallet like multibit so that I can send my bitcoins from blockchain to multibit?

1. Download the latest version on the official site https://multibit.org/
2. Install the program, and create a new wallet
3. Copy an address in your wallet
4. Log in your blockchain.info account, and send all your bitcoin to the address in step 3.


That's it? Okay but I don't get where I find the import file. I know I must sound like a complete idiot but I'm not techie in the least. Smiley

No worry, we all start as a newbie. Smiley

If you just want to send all your bitcoin to your Multibit wallet, you don't need import anything.
You only need to import a private key, when you have an address created on another wallet and want to keep using that address.

After you have set up your new Multibit wallet, don't forget to backup the files. https://multibit.org/en/help/v0.5/help_walletBackups.html

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January 16, 2015, 04:00:08 PM
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No worry, we all start as a newbie. Smiley

If you just want to send all your bitcoin to your Multibit wallet, you don't need import anything.
You only need to import a private key, when you have an address created on another wallet and want to keep using that address.

After you have set up your new Multibit wallet, don't forget to backup the files. https://multibit.org/en/help/v0.5/help_walletBackups.html


Th latest version of Multibit has only the possibility to import private keys from other Multibit wallets. Import private keys from Blockchain or other wallets is no longer supported.
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No worry, we all start as a newbie. Smiley

If you just want to send all your bitcoin to your Multibit wallet, you don't need import anything.
You only need to import a private key, when you have an address created on another wallet and want to keep using that address.

After you have set up your new Multibit wallet, don't forget to backup the files. https://multibit.org/en/help/v0.5/help_walletBackups.html


Th latest version of Multibit has only the possibility to import private keys from other Multibit wallets. Import private keys from Blockchain or other wallets is no longer supported.

You can't directly import a private key to your Multibit wallet, but you can still do it with a .key file.
Feel free to take a look at https://multibit.org/v0.5/help_importASingleKey.html

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No worry, we all start as a newbie. Smiley

If you just want to send all your bitcoin to your Multibit wallet, you don't need import anything.
You only need to import a private key, when you have an address created on another wallet and want to keep using that address.

After you have set up your new Multibit wallet, don't forget to backup the files. https://multibit.org/en/help/v0.5/help_walletBackups.html


Th latest version of Multibit has only the possibility to import private keys from other Multibit wallets. Import private keys from Blockchain or other wallets is no longer supported.

You can't directly import a private key to your Multibit wallet, but you can still do it with a .key file.
Feel free to take a look at https://multibit.org/v0.5/help_importASingleKey.html

I feel like I'm back in school! Grin
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January 16, 2015, 05:48:05 PM
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I don't get how to set it up. I've read the instructions. Tried to do it several times but I keep screwing up.

It's just a standard program; you install it just as you would install any other software.

How is this difficult at all? In my experience, MultiBit is the simplest wallet I've tried till date; for installation as well as usage.

Do you do anything after it's installed? Like import anything?

If you would like to transfer your coins from other wallet, yes you can import the private keys.

But if you're starting from scratch, there is nothing you have to import. You start with a fresh address; one address is already generated for you when you start MultiBit first time.
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January 16, 2015, 05:50:09 PM
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No worry, we all start as a newbie. Smiley

If you just want to send all your bitcoin to your Multibit wallet, you don't need import anything.
You only need to import a private key, when you have an address created on another wallet and want to keep using that address.

After you have set up your new Multibit wallet, don't forget to backup the files. https://multibit.org/en/help/v0.5/help_walletBackups.html


Th latest version of Multibit has only the possibility to import private keys from other Multibit wallets. Import private keys from Blockchain or other wallets is no longer supported.

You can, you just have to edit the .key file in notepad.

Try exporting private keys from your MultiBit wallet as a .key file and then add as many private keys to it by editing it with notepad. This will then import in MultiBit.
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January 16, 2015, 05:59:25 PM
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No worry, we all start as a newbie. Smiley

If you just want to send all your bitcoin to your Multibit wallet, you don't need import anything.
You only need to import a private key, when you have an address created on another wallet and want to keep using that address.

After you have set up your new Multibit wallet, don't forget to backup the files. https://multibit.org/en/help/v0.5/help_walletBackups.html


Th latest version of Multibit has only the possibility to import private keys from other Multibit wallets. Import private keys from Blockchain or other wallets is no longer supported.

You can, you just have to edit the .key file in notepad.

Try exporting private keys from your MultiBit wallet as a .key file and then add as many private keys to it by editing it with notepad. This will then import in MultiBit.


If you can edit it in notepad that means its stored in plain text? what the hell kind of security is that especially if you have a virus.
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January 16, 2015, 06:35:53 PM
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Do you actually need multibit?

Yes, because it is a wallet. But there are many wallets to choose from. You can see it on https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet.
I just prefer multibit because its a light client, and to don't need to download the entire blockchain which is over 20 GB currently.

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January 17, 2015, 07:49:51 AM
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No worry, we all start as a newbie. Smiley

If you just want to send all your bitcoin to your Multibit wallet, you don't need import anything.
You only need to import a private key, when you have an address created on another wallet and want to keep using that address.

After you have set up your new Multibit wallet, don't forget to backup the files. https://multibit.org/en/help/v0.5/help_walletBackups.html


Th latest version of Multibit has only the possibility to import private keys from other Multibit wallets. Import private keys from Blockchain or other wallets is no longer supported.

You can, you just have to edit the .key file in notepad.

Try exporting private keys from your MultiBit wallet as a .key file and then add as many private keys to it by editing it with notepad. This will then import in MultiBit.


If you can edit it in notepad that means its stored in plain text? what the hell kind of security is that especially if you have a virus.

It is upto you if you want to encrypt the key file while exporting. If you just want to store it somewhere, you must encrypt it. If you're using it to edit and import additional private keys, you should not encrypt it but delete after importing.

It would be good if you just try it before crying over security issues.
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January 17, 2015, 09:25:48 AM
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And remember that protecting your money is your responsibility.
So it totally depends on you and how you manage your wallet and private keys. The private keys are the only way to access your bitcoins.
According to Blockchain, there is no password recovery, losing your private key, you will lose your bitcoins.
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Okay, so where should I go from here?
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January 17, 2015, 12:10:43 PM
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Okay, so where should I go from here?

what have you done so far?

and what do you want to do?           


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So far all I've done is setup blockchain as my wallet and using faucets to get bitcoins.
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January 17, 2015, 12:58:30 PM
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So far all I've done is setup blockchain as my wallet and using faucets to get bitcoins.

yep. me also use blockchain.
and no issue but i hate the fee  Grin
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So far all I've done is setup blockchain as my wallet and using faucets to get bitcoins.

yep. me also use blockchain.
and no issue but i hate the fee  Grin

I just want to make sure I get everything setup correctly.
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Whatever Bitcoin wallet you choose, it is important to protect it from hacking. By encrypting your passwords, backing up your wallet, and possibly using multi-signature you can ensure safety and security of your Bitcoins  Wink
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Whatever Bitcoin wallet you choose, it is important to protect it from hacking. By encrypting your passwords, backing up your wallet, and possibly using multi-signature you can ensure safety and security of your Bitcoins  Wink

WOW! Could you explain how to do all that? Smiley
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both blockchain and multibit have their pros and cons, but considering blockchain's recent hack might want to consider other options as well. If you dont want to download a 30 GB blockchain and feel confident in keeping your wallet secure on your computer multibit is a perfect choice, so is electrum.
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both blockchain and multibit have their pros and cons, but considering blockchain's recent hack might want to consider other options as well. If you dont want to download a 30 GB blockchain and feel confident in keeping your wallet secure on your computer multibit is a perfect choice, so is electrum.

Do you have the link for electrum?
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both blockchain and multibit have their pros and cons, but considering blockchain's recent hack might want to consider other options as well. If you dont want to download a 30 GB blockchain and feel confident in keeping your wallet secure on your computer multibit is a perfect choice, so is electrum.

Do you have the link for electrum?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=electrum+wallet

its amazing how many people refuse to use google. Electrum, if i remember correctly, takes the transaction fee out of what youre sending, so might help to keep this in mind. I just use it as a "portable wallet" by remembering the mnemonic
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Whatever Bitcoin wallet you choose, it is important to protect it from hacking. By encrypting your passwords, backing up your wallet, and possibly using multi-signature you can ensure safety and security of your Bitcoins  Wink

WOW! Could you explain how to do all that? Smiley

1) Encrypt it
Always use a strong password. This makes it difficult to access your wallet, but not impossible.

2) Back it up
This will help to make a copy of your private keys. Remember to back up your entire wallet in several different places.

3) Use multisig
Multi-signature addresses allow to seed an address partially with a public key for many parties. This means that the signatures of all these parties is required to spend some of the bitcoins.
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There are many wallets available
but MultiBit is a great light-weight wallet perfect for casual shoppers Smiley

I like Electrum. When installing it, you get some words to write down. Say you are doing this on Windows.
Then you later install Electrum wallet on say Linux (or Android), you choose to restore it, use the same words you wrote down when you installed it on Windows, and you will have THE SAME wallet now also on Linux, Android.... I just love it!

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There are many wallets available
but MultiBit is a great light-weight wallet perfect for casual shoppers Smiley

I like Electrum. When installing it, you get some words to write down. Say you are doing this on Windows.
Then you later install Electrum wallet on say Linux (or Android), you choose to restore it, use the same words you wrote down when you installed it on Windows, and you will have THE SAME wallet now also on Linux, Android.... I just love it!

Multibit works in a similar way, you can also encrypt the wallet if you require.
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they work together as a client.

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Multibit.

Computer wallets are always better than online wallets
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Multibit.

Computer wallets are always better than online wallets

depends on how good someone's opsec is, but in general computer wallets are more secure and offer more control.
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Multibit.

Computer wallets are always better than online wallets

depends on how good someone's opsec is, but in general computer wallets are more secure and offer more control.

If I need some help setting up electrum would someone be willing to offer their help?
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Multibit.

Computer wallets are always better than online wallets

depends on how good someone's opsec is, but in general computer wallets are more secure and offer more control.

If I need some help setting up electrum would someone be willing to offer their help?
you need more help than what is provided at the official website here: https://electrum.org/tutorials.html

if you need any help ask in this section, or in here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=98.0

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both blockchain and multibit have their pros and cons, but considering blockchain's recent hack might want to consider other options as well. If you dont want to download a 30 GB blockchain and feel confident in keeping your wallet secure on your computer multibit is a perfect choice, so is electrum.

Was there really a hack on blockchain.info?  Do you have a reference?
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both blockchain and multibit have their pros and cons, but considering blockchain's recent hack might want to consider other options as well. If you dont want to download a 30 GB blockchain and feel confident in keeping your wallet secure on your computer multibit is a perfect choice, so is electrum.

Was there really a hack on blockchain.info?  Do you have a reference?

Not really a hack, but a terrible bug in their code. You can check http://blog.blockchain.com/2014/12/08/blockchain-info-security-disclosure/ and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=581411.msg9774894#msg9774894 for the details.

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There are many wallets available
but MultiBit is a great light-weight wallet perfect for casual shoppers Smiley

I like Electrum. When installing it, you get some words to write down. Say you are doing this on Windows.
Then you later install Electrum wallet on say Linux (or Android), you choose to restore it, use the same words you wrote down when you installed it on Windows, and you will have THE SAME wallet now also on Linux, Android.... I just love it!

Multibit works in a similar way, you can also encrypt the wallet if you require.

The major difference between Electrum and Multibit is that Electrum is a deterministic wallet and Multibit is not.
Exactly as alamanjani illustrated, it is very easy to manage one Electrum wallet across a few different machine. But for Multibit, you will generate a different address every time even if you start from the same wallet file.

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both blockchain and multibit have their pros and cons, but considering blockchain's recent hack might want to consider other options as well. If you dont want to download a 30 GB blockchain and feel confident in keeping your wallet secure on your computer multibit is a perfect choice, so is electrum.

Was there really a hack on blockchain.info?  Do you have a reference?

Not really a hack, but a terrible bug in their code. You can check http://blog.blockchain.com/2014/12/08/blockchain-info-security-disclosure/ and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=581411.msg9774894#msg9774894 for the details.

Thanks for the links, reading these now...

I'm always intersted in btc security when it comes to the most popular websites.  blockchain.info is one of the longest running web wallet services not to have a major incident (or was before this, anyway).
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