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January 17, 2015, 06:15:48 PM
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Many of you are missing the underlying point of his statement. I sense his disgust with the community and what people have done to this new technology. Most of us in speculation offer no real advancement to the network, the tech or the economy.
I'm not excluded in this, but I do have projects in development to try to give back in a way other than being a part of price discovery.
He already said in the OP that he would tell people to buy and hold for two years. He also said nothing is wrong with the tech. It's the people around Bitcoin that are the problem. He did not say he was selling out and done with Bitcoin. I gather that he is done with this community and nothing more.

Good bye, wobber. Get well

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January 17, 2015, 06:17:58 PM
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These were nice years, but unfortunately all things come to an end. It is time to say "Goodbye". I still think bitcoin is a brilliant invention which brings immense power to the masses but the human element was more agile and found ways to almost destroy it. It's wounded, but not by a security flaw, not by a design flaw, just by misuse and abuse. Nobody can tell what will happen in the future but one thing is certain: nothing goes up indefinitely and all markets are cyclic.

Bitcoin was a chance to learn on economics, markets, psychology and technology. A great ROI. I would recommend anyone here to buy whatever amount one can loose in  the next 5 minutes and put it aside until 2017-01-17, along with the same amount in USD. I am very curious which will have more value then.

Good bye.

When despair like this has set in, you know that the bottom is in.

This are the final phases of the bear market. Look at this as a great opportunity.


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January 17, 2015, 06:37:33 PM
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The Bitcoiners don't need you Wobbler:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEnoofPhBtE

I like it better this way, Wubya;  I get to see you run.


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January 17, 2015, 09:59:55 PM
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I always enjoyed reading your posts. I will miss you, wobber. Von voyage, wherever you go.

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January 17, 2015, 10:22:23 PM
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Many of you are missing the underlying point of his statement. I sense his disgust with the community and what people have done to this new technology. Most of us in speculation offer no real advancement to the network, the tech or the economy.
I'm not excluded in this, but I do have projects in development to try to give back in a way other than being a part of price discovery.
He already said in the OP that he would tell people to buy and hold for two years. He also said nothing is wrong with the tech. It's the people around Bitcoin that are the problem. He did not say he was selling out and done with Bitcoin. I gather that he is done with this community and nothing more.

Good bye, wobber. Get well


If one's experience with bitcoin is limited to this forum, I get where he's coming from. This place has obviously always had ignorant trolls (as well as smart trolls), but during the 2011 bear-market troll-fest, the signal-to-noise on good discussion was much better than today. Now, it seems, on this forum, even aside from the haters, there's far far more ignorance than there used to be.

In any event, this place has become more price-driven, in terms of general sentiment, than any other part of the wider community. Twitter, reddit, zapchain, and most importantly, the people who are actually building products and services surrounding bitcoin offer far better discussion, and a much less emotionally-driven long-term outlook.

It's simultaneously frustrating and amusing to observe the sentiment on this forum and in certain media outlets (ahem: NYT), in contrast with what's actually happening in terms of ecosystem development. Hard for people see the breadth and depth of what's really happening, I guess, if they just look at price charts and snarky headlines.

FWIW, if $/BTC had gone in a straight line from the $100 it was at in Sept 2013 to the $200 it's at today, it would be a *very* different narrative; probably focusing (correctly) on the tremendous ecosystem development we've had in the past year or so. But humans just react pretty dumbly to volatility in general, so you get all the emotional nonsense instead. Oh well - it's a long-term process either way.


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January 17, 2015, 10:26:47 PM
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You'll be back. They always come back  Roll Eyes

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January 17, 2015, 11:06:33 PM
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Many of you are missing the underlying point of his statement. I sense his disgust with the community and what people have done to this new technology. Most of us in speculation offer no real advancement to the network, the tech or the economy.
I'm not excluded in this, but I do have projects in development to try to give back in a way other than being a part of price discovery.
He already said in the OP that he would tell people to buy and hold for two years. He also said nothing is wrong with the tech. It's the people around Bitcoin that are the problem. He did not say he was selling out and done with Bitcoin. I gather that he is done with this community and nothing more.

Good bye, wobber. Get well

I'd say, it's people in general, not only people around bitcoin. Even the most perfect things in the world can be fucked up by people and I'm pretty sure they will... But conclusion would be to "fold" life. I'm not going to fold!

But I will miss wobber's posts.

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January 17, 2015, 11:21:16 PM
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*facepalm*

at the amount of people wanting to buy his account. kind of proves his point

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January 17, 2015, 11:49:40 PM
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You'll be back. They always come back  Roll Eyes
think so. good rest and until his return.

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January 17, 2015, 11:56:21 PM
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au revoir!!! "sniff " "sniff "
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January 17, 2015, 11:58:50 PM
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These were nice years, but unfortunately all things come to an end. It is time to say "Goodbye". I still think bitcoin is a brilliant invention which brings immense power to the masses but the human element was more agile and found ways to almost destroy it. It's wounded, but not by a security flaw, not by a design flaw, just by misuse and abuse. Nobody can tell what will happen in the future but one thing is certain: nothing goes up indefinitely and all markets are cyclic.

Bitcoin was a chance to learn on economics, markets, psychology and technology. A great ROI. I would recommend anyone here to buy whatever amount one can loose in  the next 5 minutes and put it aside until 2017-01-17, along with the same amount in USD. I am very curious which will have more value then.

Good bye.

Goodbye my friend, I hope you have a happy and peaceful life Smiley
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January 18, 2015, 12:09:53 AM
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January 18, 2015, 01:50:28 AM
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Goodbye! (from a bitcointalk vagrant).

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January 18, 2015, 02:12:43 AM
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good bye and i agree with you that people itself destroyed BTC.

Im going to stay even if it hits $1
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January 18, 2015, 02:24:52 AM
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We know that you are gonna come back, but I would still say that please don't leave us being such a respected and experienced member of this community, as we need you guys... We do agree that everyone destroyed BTC just for the sake of profits and didn't take it as such a technology which if wouldn't have come into existence, the anonymity subject ain't get defined in such a manner which BTC Protocol shows to be working on...

I think the security measures is what it takes to make BTC a do-or-die coin... As you could have seen, there were so many Private Keys leaked on many websites which was not expected... And not just limited to that, but each key was correlated to each other containing just one last letter different from previous one, which compromises BTC in terms of its security...

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January 18, 2015, 02:29:33 AM
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To be honest, you were going on my tits with your crybaby drama queen behavior for months though your words about your illness softened that a bit.

I hope you'll beat your illness and be healthy but can't say I'd miss your defeatism here a single bit.

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January 18, 2015, 02:43:52 AM
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I was trying to rephrase something I had meant to post for a while yet I feel it will be lost to many in this sub.
Instead I want to thank you for the insights I gained into the early days by reading some of your old posts.

Good luck on your journey, in the end we always realize that it was the road that mattered.
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January 18, 2015, 02:51:23 AM
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These were nice years, but unfortunately all things come to an end. It is time to say "Goodbye". I still think bitcoin is a brilliant invention which brings immense power to the masses but the human element was more agile and found ways to almost destroy it. It's wounded, but not by a security flaw, not by a design flaw, just by misuse and abuse. Nobody can tell what will happen in the future but one thing is certain: nothing goes up indefinitely and all markets are cyclic.

This is strange.  Bitcoin is more a libertarian concept than a technology.  The blockchain is a technology invention that made the libertarian concept of a cryptocurrency possible.

What we are seeing (and I applaud it being a libertarian myself) is exactly the freedom we are longing for.  Predator and prey, greed and scam, the powerful and the weak, hopes and deception, wild swings, ups and downs: that IS liberty.  The "human element" is exactly what we want to liberate, and what you call the destructive powers is exactly the freedom we are longing for.  So what's the problem Huh

Bitcoin is an element of libertarian freedom, and is behaving also in that way.

To me, this is all just great !  What did you expect, maybe ?  Freedom means also that you shouldn't count on any specific behavior of others to achieve something.  Freedom means exactly that: freedom.  

I would even think that high gains and high losses, despair and so on, are a very good way to distribute seigniorage well amongst people.  The early adopters will have taken profit, or will have made huge losses, and the seigniorage that would have been theirs will not be theirs as they will have gone through many periods of despair, having handed over their coins to others, with profit or with loss.  This cycle may repeat itself several times, to shake out the early coins several times, and randomly distribute it.

There always has to remain the doubt of bitcoin failing.  If it weren't, coins wouldn't get redistributed, but would simply be held indefinitely.  The genuine possibility of bitcoin failing is part of the distribution scheme.  But then, it also has a genuine probability to fail !


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I've been hoping lately that "better people" would be attracted to Bitcoin, but I like your view that we are seeing some of the "chaos" that naturally comes from freedom.

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January 18, 2015, 05:29:21 AM
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I've gotten so much entertainment and education from following btc and this forum I would never "say goodbye." I wasn't an early adopter and I haven't gotten rich, but man has this been interesting.
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January 18, 2015, 06:19:22 AM
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I've gotten so much entertainment and education from following btc and this forum I would never "say goodbye." I wasn't an early adopter and I haven't gotten rich, but man has this been interesting.
No kidding, this place is a playground for those that are looking to expand their horizons in such a new world. Learn what you can and don't look back cuz the future is bright as fuck.
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