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January 17, 2015, 11:28:07 AM |
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First off i apologize if this was already posted somewhere else ( there is so many topics and I did try to search for this already ). I just read that Russia has blocked several major bitcoin sites and plans on introducing fines to users and business if found they are (now) illegally "mining, or issuing Bitcoin or other digital currencies.” Source Russia Blocks Several Bitcoin Websitesthis is bunch of BS if you ask me. What is next? Do we see other European countries following this lead, or is it just another attempt by the Russian Gov. to control the financial system in their "righteous fight against the West"?
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January 17, 2015, 11:32:37 AM |
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First off i apologize if this was already posted somewhere else ( there is so many topics and I did try to search for this already ). I just read that Russia has blocked several major bitcoin sites and plans on introducing fines to users and business if found they are (now) illegally "mining, or issuing Bitcoin or other digital currencies.” Source Russia Blocks Several Bitcoin Websitesthis is bunch of BS if you ask me. What is next? Do we see other European countries following this lead, or is it just another attempt by the Russian Gov. to control the financial system in their "righteous fight against the West"? That some pure shit if you ask me too mate ... but at least & at least (that's the only good side I see on what they did) they didn't ban the whole BTC network , I mean people in Russia still can send & receive/buy & sell their Bitcoins even if not from exchangers but from regular people like here in btc talk for example . Other then that .. yes they screwed up badly
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CBG81 (OP)
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January 17, 2015, 11:37:00 AM |
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That some pure shit if you ask me too mate ... but at least & at least (that's the only good side I see on what they did) they didn't ban the whole BTC network , I mean people in Russia still can send & receive/buy & sell their Bitcoins even if not from exchangers but from regular people like here in btc talk for example . Other then that .. yes they screwed up badly
exactly... but my main worry is the Russian Gov. won't stop just there, but will expand the ban to all the cryptocurrencies and block all the other major bitcoin/crypto sites... I mean i would not be surprised at some point they block bitcointalk.org too sheeesh... :/
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January 17, 2015, 11:39:15 AM |
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That some pure shit if you ask me too mate ... but at least & at least (that's the only good side I see on what they did) they didn't ban the whole BTC network , I mean people in Russia still can send & receive/buy & sell their Bitcoins even if not from exchangers but from regular people like here in btc talk for example . Other then that .. yes they screwed up badly
exactly... but my main worry is the Russian Gov. won't stop just there, but will expand the ban to all the cryptocurrencies and block all the other major bitcoin/crypto sites... I mean i would not be surprised at some point they block bitcointalk.org too sheeesh... :/ How they are banning them exactly anyway ? simply get their host website informations and contact the host providers to shut it down ? Couldn't someone just buy a host outside Russia and start his own website , no one will know anything about it unless they are spying in people Unless those exchange websites etc .. have official offices their on Russia then this is another story .
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CBG81 (OP)
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January 17, 2015, 11:43:02 AM |
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the major Russian ISPs are blocking these sites, so no1 inside Russia can access them now.
As far as the hosting at other countries, yes that is possible, but the ISP can again block these sites from accessing from Russia.
I mean look at the internet censorship in China for example.. it is pretty much easy to block anything you want if you are the Gov.
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January 17, 2015, 12:12:11 PM |
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..and here some Americans are complaining about the U.S. government and our 'regulations.' lol.
Putin is ruthless. And if it's one guy you never want to mess with...it's him.
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January 17, 2015, 12:35:18 PM |
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..and here some Americans are complaining about the U.S. government and our 'regulations.' lol.
Putin is ruthless. And if it's one guy you never want to mess with...it's him.
it definitely looks like he lost the compass.
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January 17, 2015, 01:10:24 PM |
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they should ban their own currency, which is used for drug and other crap more than bitcoin, in their country at least
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Jammalan the Prophet
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January 17, 2015, 02:09:15 PM |
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A gas station with a midget in a rusty tank bans bitcoin..... I'm scared
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January 17, 2015, 09:00:05 PM |
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A gas station with a midget in a rusty tank bans bitcoin..... I'm scared
actually they have pretty good tanks, operated by the Russian bears, running on cheap oil now which is crippling their economy.
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January 19, 2015, 01:01:24 PM |
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Russia is like the DARK WORLD of bitcoin. You are never quite sure what you will get from her. They always keep the bitcoin community over there with these bans.
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January 19, 2015, 02:33:24 PM |
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No that won't stop or shutdown bitcoin network entirely. Bitcoiners can still exchange bitcoin with one another and use it for payment as long as it is among individuals. That's barely a hiccup.
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January 19, 2015, 05:10:50 PM |
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That only makes it more difficult for the average Joe to get BTC but smarter Russians know how to get around those difficulties.
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I used to be a citizen and a taxpayer. Those days are long gone.
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January 20, 2015, 02:24:19 AM |
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That only makes it more difficult for the average Joe to get BTC but smarter Russians know how to get around those difficulties.
Indeed, but we want to attract the average joes as well.. at least eventually.
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January 21, 2015, 06:39:48 PM |
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That only makes it more difficult for the average Joe to get BTC but smarter Russians know how to get around those difficulties.
thats correct, but according to the article if caught they are facing some hefty fines. And who knows what else Mr.Putin will decide to enforce upon Russians... he is slowly losing it if you ask me ( though some might argue he lost it long time ago .. )
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January 21, 2015, 07:37:34 PM |
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They can close a few sites but the can never ban bitcoin, it is impossible. However I hope that they one day will accept completely bitcoin , why should they ban him ? It is better than them coin (ruble).
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January 23, 2015, 07:11:22 AM |
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Russians are too much of nationalists to accept any other currency than their own ruble.
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January 24, 2015, 06:58:19 AM |
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they are afraid that if the ruble will weaken even all Russian move to Bitcoin. it is more stable
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January 25, 2015, 06:00:24 AM |
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Wont people just use proxy sites or tor? I though all this blocking happens only in developing countries.
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January 25, 2015, 07:48:26 AM |
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Ban ? I think they just block these bitcoin websites But, users still can access with Good Proxy/VPN & Tor Browser Maybe they afraid bitcoin will take over their fiat currency
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January 25, 2015, 05:20:17 PM |
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IT's no use, bitcoiner still can use Tor browser to access bitcoin website They just waste their time to block bitcoin websites
True, but if we want mainstream adoption that is a big hit against that motive. People that use Tor is a minimum part of the population and they are knowledgeable people, not mainstream people.
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Jammalan the Prophet
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January 30, 2015, 08:16:59 PM |
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IT's no use, bitcoiner still can use Tor browser to access bitcoin website They just waste their time to block bitcoin websites
True, but if we want mainstream adoption that is a big hit against that motive. People that use Tor is a minimum part of the population and they are knowledgeable people, not mainstream people. Where do you find that species in Russia?
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January 31, 2015, 11:05:24 AM |
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this is an old news that was already shared and discussed months ago it won't had any big effect on bitcoin price
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Jammalan the Prophet
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January 31, 2015, 03:17:20 PM |
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this is an old news that was already shared and discussed months ago it won't had any big effect on bitcoin price
No it it not , the decision was published mid january but let me guess... posting for sig payment just to make a post
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January 31, 2015, 04:20:52 PM |
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they are still using bitcoin there, bannin website won't do much, russian people will keeps sing bitcoin regardless
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January 31, 2015, 10:17:52 PM |
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They are the ones with the most to loose if they continue down this path. I would love to see the effect on their economy in a few years should they continue to hold their position.
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January 31, 2015, 10:37:41 PM |
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A gas station with a midget in a rusty tank bans bitcoin..... I'm scared
Russia is really big country so it could have been bit part of market. Look it on an world map if you don't know about it.
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The only online casino on which i won something. I made 17mBTC from 1mBTC in like 15 minutes. This is not paid AD!
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Jammalan the Prophet
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February 01, 2015, 12:30:31 AM |
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A gas station with a midget in a rusty tank bans bitcoin..... I'm scared
Russia is really big country so it could have been bit part of market. Look it on an world map if you don't know about it. Yeah look on the map... Big country ...and? France and Germany combined produce twice as much agricultural products and have 4x times their gdp.... Big and.... Do you have a clue how much of that land in totally inhabitable and not suited for anything? Average wage below gipsyland and hungerstrikeria?
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February 01, 2015, 08:32:11 AM |
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This is 2015. Anyone can ban any website and anyone with half a brain can figure a way to access whatever website they want to. Politics-R-dum
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February 02, 2015, 02:05:02 AM |
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This is 2015. Anyone can ban any website and anyone with half a brain can figure a way to access whatever website they want to. Politics-R-dum
Dont be that sure tho, most people dont know what a proxy is actually.
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February 02, 2015, 05:34:03 AM |
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This is 2015. Anyone can ban any website and anyone with half a brain can figure a way to access whatever website they want to. Politics-R-dum
Dont be that sure tho, most people dont know what a proxy is actually. governments are dumb, the masses are even dumber
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February 02, 2015, 06:15:09 AM |
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This is 2015. Anyone can ban any website and anyone with half a brain can figure a way to access whatever website they want to. Politics-R-dum
Dont be that sure tho, most people dont know what a proxy is actually. governments are dumb, the masses are even dumber I agree but this still sounds like more of a political topic instead of economic was my point I guess. Still good to put it all in perspective.
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February 02, 2015, 08:57:43 AM |
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atleast russians are smart enough to use vpn services
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February 02, 2015, 03:14:55 PM |
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atleast russians are smart enough to use vpn services
Most people dont use anything, in fact most people use smartphones for the internet.
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February 03, 2015, 11:55:14 PM |
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atleast russians are smart enough to use vpn services
Most people dont use anything, in fact most people use smartphones for the internet. This. We cant live off the hope that people maybe will circunvent the gov to access btc. How are we supossed to go mainstrea like that??
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