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January 17, 2015, 12:25:58 PM
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bitcoin's obituary
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January 17, 2015, 01:20:12 PM
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Yet another sign we are close to the time to be buying like crazy.

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January 17, 2015, 01:24:26 PM
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Ehh, I dont understand why people write "bitcoin will fall", "this is end" etc. If you dont want just dont invest into it, thats all. Dont spam bilion times with the same speculations..

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January 17, 2015, 01:24:57 PM
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You'll change your mind soon.
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January 17, 2015, 01:26:17 PM
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Ehh, I dont understand why people write "bitcoin will fall", "this is end" etc. If you dont want just dont invest into it, thats all. Dont spam bilion times with the same speculations..

sometimes when people lose money in something, they tend to want that something to fail once they got out with a loss.
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January 17, 2015, 01:29:17 PM
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The obituarty was made as a joke because someone wanted to display all the fud in media that kept saying bitcoin was going to fail. It hasn't done so yet, and it most likely never will.

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January 17, 2015, 01:51:15 PM
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The obituarty was made as a joke because someone wanted to display all the fud in media that kept saying bitcoin was going to fail. It hasn't done so yet, and it most likely never will.

I'm sure OP is aware of that.

He made this post as a joke, don't take it literally.

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January 17, 2015, 01:53:11 PM
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The obituarty was made as a joke because someone wanted to display all the fud in media that kept saying bitcoin was going to fail. It hasn't done so yet, and it most likely never will.

I'm sure OP is aware of that.

He made this post as a joke, don't take it literally.
Now that I look at it, I think he made this post just to get his daily post in. He's farming activity, he has 580 posts and 580 activity.

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January 17, 2015, 01:58:29 PM
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Bitcoin just get lower for now.

Yet another sign we are close to the time to be buying like crazy.


I think this is the time.
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January 17, 2015, 01:59:27 PM
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The obituarty was made as a joke because someone wanted to display all the fud in media that kept saying bitcoin was going to fail. It hasn't done so yet, and it most likely never will.

I'm sure OP is aware of that.

He made this post as a joke, don't take it literally.
Now that I look at it, I think he made this post just to get his daily post in. He's farming activity, he has 580 posts and 580 activity.

What can I say? I'm a farmer of men.

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January 17, 2015, 02:53:00 PM
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The message is clear. You can call it dead but it's far far from that.
OP just want to get attention and state the point. Grin

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January 17, 2015, 02:54:41 PM
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These threads are just funny to read....how immature people are.
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January 17, 2015, 02:57:13 PM
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today you out
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January 17, 2015, 02:58:05 PM
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Saw that posted elsewhere, that website is brilliant, I think we do need to keep a record of how many times the news journalist were and still are wrong about Bitcoin.
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January 17, 2015, 04:21:39 PM
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I think one thing that may case to bitcoin, I read Some where that BTC can be used for feeding Terrorist and other Illegal ways like black money transfer, laundering money etc. People can send their Black money any where with out being located.

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January 17, 2015, 04:26:27 PM
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People can send their Black money any where with out being located.

Two words .. Public Ledger

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January 17, 2015, 04:28:21 PM
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Ehh, I dont understand why people write "bitcoin will fall", "this is end" etc. If you dont want just dont invest into it, thats all. Dont spam bilion times with the same speculations..

There's enough of these posts that it's a bit suspicious!  Are these people really "packing it in" and making public announcements for some reason, maybe unconsciously imitating the FUDsters...or are they conciously imitating the FUDsters?

I could see it if there was some issue with the network, or the blockchain, etc.   But everything is working fine, so what is the problem?
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Ehh, I dont understand why people write "bitcoin will fall", "this is end" etc. If you dont want just dont invest into it, thats all. Dont spam bilion times with the same speculations..

what is Bitcoin if not a speculation itself?
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January 17, 2015, 05:51:05 PM
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I think one thing that may case to bitcoin, I read Some where that BTC can be used for feeding Terrorist and other Illegal ways like black money transfer, laundering money etc. People can send their Black money any where with out being located.

~ OTS ~

That's correct. These are real facts not only rumors.
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The Worll is ending  Cool
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Rumors everywhere

We'll see in few months what fate of bitcoin is
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I think one thing that may case to bitcoin, I read Some where that BTC can be used for feeding Terrorist and other Illegal ways like black money transfer, laundering money etc. People can send their Black money any where with out being located.

~ OTS ~

That's correct. These are real facts not only rumors.

Care to share at least one of these facts where bitcoin was used to sponsor terrorist? I'm not talking about some guy speculating that bitcoin could be used for such, I'm talking about confirmed facts.

Thanks in advance

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I think one thing that may case to bitcoin, I read Some where that BTC can be used for feeding Terrorist and other Illegal ways like black money transfer, laundering money etc. People can send their Black money any where with out being located.

~ OTS ~

That's correct. These are real facts not only rumors.

Care to share at least one of these facts where bitcoin was used to sponsor terrorist? I'm not talking about some guy speculating that bitcoin could be used for such, I'm talking about confirmed facts.

Thanks in advance


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January 17, 2015, 07:15:16 PM
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Everyone has their price. Some feel the price is to high. That doesn't mean it will fail... Think about how many can't afford to get involved. If the price drops further that "I wish I could have bought at this price" comes along and people like myself will gobble up.

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Being an extremely early adopter and having sold lots at the peak of the last bubble, I have been feeling good and have decided to start filling up with premium gasoline at the pump lately. Eat it bitches!

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Being an extremely early adopter and having sold lots at the peak of the last bubble, I have been feeling good and have decided to start filling up with premium gasoline at the pump lately. Eat it bitches!

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Yet another sign we are close to the time to be buying like crazy.

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Being an extremely early adopter and having sold lots at the peak of the last bubble, I have been feeling good and have decided to start filling up with premium gasoline at the pump lately. Eat it bitches!

so are you a millionaire ?  Grin

My guess is that premium petro is now affordable.

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Being an extremely early adopter and having sold lots at the peak of the last bubble, I have been feeling good and have decided to start filling up with premium gasoline at the pump lately. Eat it bitches!

so are you a millionaire ?  Grin

yes he is.  lot's of FU money behind that talk i bet.  Grin
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cool, be sure to drop off your btc on my buy orders
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And apparently it's been confirmed 35 times lol.  As long as people trade/spend it then it's... ALIVE!!  That's what I love about this forum and about bitcoin.   It's fun to try and accumulate it and it's just as fun to peruse the goods for sale in various forums.  Never a dull moment and frequently some really good deals if you can avoid the scams and scammers.
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I feel bad for anyone fleeing the scene at this time thinking the show is over, on the contrary. All you're doing is setting yourself up for hating life even worse when the next wave gets nasty and you're left alone in the dark and in your room all by yourself eating doritos for dinner cuz you can't afford lobster on a daily basis. This smoking gun hasn't even shown itself yet and certainly hasn't given you a taste at what the future will offer. If you have a vision of the future, you'd be holding or backing the truck up and purchasing like there's no tomorrow and/or planning on doing so. The next wave will be super silly and nasty on the bullish side and all these upcoming and current btc conferences are showcasing what you have to look forward to as the price recorrects to where most of us know it will be. It's easy to want to take a crap and sellout but that's the worst thing you could do and you'll live the rest of your life looking back on this failure to have what you need when the time was right. Don't be stupid and ruin your future by giving up hope when we're so close to moving forward. You gotta have a steel framed stomach lining to make it to the next level. This isn't for the faint of heart yet, if you bail your heart won't do so well watching the rest of us get payed and living the good life from then on in. So many people are soft these days, but if you had to lead the lives of the founders of the USA and pledge your life, liberty and sacred honor this downtrend would be a cake walk and even better, you'd make it out on the other side a magnet for good looking women - that's right I said plural. I'm plural in a bear market down trend so you do the math.
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I think one thing that may case to bitcoin, I read Some where that BTC can be used for feeding Terrorist and other Illegal ways like black money transfer, laundering money etc. People can send their Black money any where with out being located.

~ OTS ~

That's correct. These are real facts not only rumors.

Care to share at least one of these facts where bitcoin was used to sponsor terrorist? I'm not talking about some guy speculating that bitcoin could be used for such, I'm talking about confirmed facts.

Thanks in advance


yes:   https://alkhilafaharidat.wordpress.com/

Can't see it... Can you copy/paste the relevant part?
Also, if these are 'real facts' I'm sure you can find any more serious source than wordpress blog?

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Is there not some site that basically is just a list of bitcoin is dead articles  Grin
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I think one thing that may case to bitcoin, I read Some where that BTC can be used for feeding Terrorist and other Illegal ways like black money transfer, laundering money etc. People can send their Black money any where with out being located.

~ OTS ~

That's correct. These are real facts not only rumors.
This has been achieved through fiat for tens and tens of years before Bitcoin.....

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This ain't ending man!
you can call this the silence before a storm , no biggie , the price is down now , but it ain't ending
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January 18, 2015, 11:29:48 AM
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I think one thing that may case to bitcoin, I read Some where that BTC can be used for feeding Terrorist and other Illegal ways like black money transfer, laundering money etc. People can send their Black money any where with out being located.

~ OTS ~

That's correct. These are real facts not only rumors.

i think thats not colleral between terroris and bitcoin ..
not to hard like that

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January 18, 2015, 01:29:50 PM
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I think one thing that may case to bitcoin, I read Some where that BTC can be used for feeding Terrorist and other Illegal ways like black money transfer, laundering money etc. People can send their Black money any where with out being located.

~ OTS ~

That's correct. These are real facts not only rumors.

Care to share at least one of these facts where bitcoin was used to sponsor terrorist? I'm not talking about some guy speculating that bitcoin could be used for such, I'm talking about confirmed facts.

Thanks in advance


yes:   https://alkhilafaharidat.wordpress.com/

Can't see it... Can you copy/paste the relevant part?
Also, if these are 'real facts' I'm sure you can find any more serious source than wordpress blog?

Well see here: http://www.sitepronews.com/2014/10/06/bitcoin-used-fund-terrorism/

Secindly: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-07/department-defense-study-bitcoin-terrorist-threat

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Fine to speculate but make sure you get out by 2012. Mayan calendar confirms the world will end.
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Fine to speculate but make sure you get out by 2012. Mayan calendar confirms the world will end.

Yeah, but that's years away, my trusty old 286 tells me it's only 1915

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Fine to speculate but make sure you get out by 2012. Mayan calendar confirms the world will end.

Yeah, but that's years away, my trusty old 286 tells me it's only 1915

I didn't know you were an old fart. The next question you'll get is, "what's a 286"?


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slams door "and stay out"

starts walking away

hears a pathetic knocking

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slams door "and stay out"

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when it starts going up

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January 18, 2015, 03:45:11 PM
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Ehh, I dont understand why people write "bitcoin will fall", "this is end" etc. If you dont want just dont invest into it, thats all. Dont spam bilion times with the same speculations..

It is people who have failed to turn a profit who cannot fathom their own failures, taking it out on everyone else.

Since they don't make a profit, they think the means will die without understanding that... the world doesn't revolve around them.

Same "phenomenon" in Gold Mining...

Failures who think they're winners keep failing and blaming others for their failures.

I used to find it hilarious, now it's just sad...

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You will regret soon. You should have been buying now instead.
Don't feel bad later when you see all the gains you could have made.

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I'm on bended knees asking bitcoin to take me back. I'm sorry bitcoin, I lost my way and it won't happen again.

I'm not a millionaire but I am rich with the things that matter like good food, clean water, and healthy relationships (and can still afford premium fuel).

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People are so tired of banks, keep it going and believing in it!
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Don't let your emotions take over.

I'm sure once the price is rising to +$400 he will be back faster than some people can fart.

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I'm on bended knees asking bitcoin to take me back. I'm sorry bitcoin, I lost my way and it won't happen again.

I'm not a millionaire but I am rich with the things that matter like good food, clean water, and healthy relationships (and can still afford premium fuel).


And if you're feeling down you can always watch that opening doge scene again Smiley Eye opening how many  have commented without checking the OP.

Haha. I know right? Wink

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January 18, 2015, 04:18:17 PM
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Fine to speculate but make sure you get out by 2012. Mayan calendar confirms the world will end.

Yeah, but that's years away, my trusty old 286 tells me it's only 1915

I didn't know you were an old fart. The next question you'll get is, "what's a 286"?



Hey, less of the old. Back when I thought I could make a fortune from patching the millennium bug, a 286 machine was the only guinea pig I could find that actually had it. Even by then it was 3 generations old, and most of the world was on Win95/Pentiums. Anyway, patch was so unbelievably trivial, and actual number of affected machines still likely to be in service at end of 1999 so small, that I abandoned that endeavour.

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Fine to speculate but make sure you get out by 2012. Mayan calendar confirms the world will end.

Yeah, but that's years away, my trusty old 286 tells me it's only 1915

I didn't know you were an old fart. The next question you'll get is, "what's a 286"?



Hey, less of the old. Back when I thought I could make a fortune from patching the millennium bug, a 286 machine was the only guinea pig I could find that actually had it. Even by then it was 3 generations old, and most of the world was on Win95/Pentiums. Anyway, patch was so unbelievably trivial, and actual number of affected machines still likely to be in service at end of 1999 so small, that I abandoned that endeavour.


That's good. I'm glad you're not old. Old people are so dumb and refuse to accept new technology. That's why I promised myself on my 60th birthday I'd never have a friend over 40. lol

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Sooo,,, coward with no balls who bails and bears,,,, or Hodler who takes the risk?  

I would rather at least say I tried and failed than to have chickened out, bailed and then tried to pull others down with me.

I guess time will tell who exactly who is the lemming following the herd over the edge of the cliff to their demise, and who was the winner.

You bought the ticket, you take your chances... And this story is FAR from over...

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goes 0 to a hunna rl quick  Wink  Kiss
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Fine to speculate but make sure you get out by 2012. Mayan calendar confirms the world will end.

Yeah, but that's years away, my trusty old 286 tells me it's only 1915

I didn't know you were an old fart. The next question you'll get is, "what's a 286"?


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Ehh, I dont understand why people write "bitcoin will fall", "this is end" etc. If you dont want just dont invest into it, thats all. Dont spam bilion times with the same speculations..

Maybe its a such as impingement Undecided
Their spend so much money and much time for rich with bitcoin.
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quoted for future reference.  Smiley

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I don't understand why bitcoiners watch the price so much.
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I don't understand why bitcoiners watch the price so much.
Price is everything at this moment.
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I don't understand why bitcoiners watch the price so much.

It's because they don't really believe in it. If they did, they would just let it sit, and wouldn't bother watching the price at all.

That's why they're all in here, pumping it up like a penny stock and eating and believing their own shit.

I'm seeing a lot of denial here; an enormous amount of denial. You need to face something; Bitcoin has no use in the civilized world. I pay with cash or credit for everything. If a business doesn't take credit, I don't even frequent it. Considering the hurdles with accepting Bitcoin, mass adoption seems as likely as never. It's already been how many years now?

If a government can just ban Bitcoin, then you can never expect it to succeed either. Just look at what happened in Russia: Their currency has plummeted to a third of what it was a few months ago, yet the Russian people didn't all flock to Bitcoin. They weren't allowed to, and it wasn't seen as a viable alternative. Cyprus proved Bitcoin's legitimacy, Russia proved its worthlessness.

You need to stop talking about this shit like it's going to keep going up forever. Dogecoin parodied this mentality exactly: "To da moon!". A strong, steady decline like what Bitcoin has experienced is reminiscent of the VCR, or any technology, rather. Face it, Bitcoin is a technology. Even if cryptocurrencies were to succeed on a regular, nonblack market, it wouldn't be Bitcoin that succeeds.

I say face the reality. A truly rational person wouldn't feel the need to come in here and try talking about how everyone not investing in Bitcoin is an idiot. If they believe in it, then what others do wouldn't matter, and they wouldn't need to check the price constantly. That's all. Good luck to you all, I don't feel like this industry has any merit any longer. It feels like when Tamagotchi's went out of style. Maybe this will have more success in ten years.

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January 19, 2015, 06:39:53 AM
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I see your point and sarcasm. And I am with you on this one.

People keep talking about how Bitcoin prices have crashed to all-time lo and Bitcoin is doomed to fail, but it always finds a way to reach new heights like a Phoenix.

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I see your point and sarcasm. And I am with you on this one.

People keep talking about how Bitcoin prices have crashed to all-time lo and Bitcoin is doomed to fail, but it always finds a way to reach new heights like a Phoenix.

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January 19, 2015, 06:42:09 AM
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I don't understand why bitcoiners watch the price so much.

I say face the reality. A truly rational person wouldn't feel the need to come in here and try talking about how everyone not investing in Bitcoin is an idiot. If they believe in it, then what others do wouldn't matter, and they wouldn't need to check the price constantly. That's all. Good luck to you all, I don't feel like this industry has any merit any longer. It feels like when Tamagotchi's went out of style. Maybe this will have more success in ten years.
I don't understand why bitcoiners watch the price so much.
Price is everything at this moment.
Oh, dear zavtra, thank you for your presence but i hope you sleep well at night and not puke. Your thesis was awful and I do mean that. Nobody is here pushing a penny stock, most of us have a net worth far above that. ok fine.

In regards to businesses accepting BTC, if you're not still in the dark ages you'd realize how far BTC has come and where it is accepted. List them for me is your next homework assignment. ty

Oh lord, Russia is constantly proving it hard for citizens to buy bitcoin at reliable places and furthermore to hold which is why this talk about them is materializing. It ain't banned as u know.

And there you go like some luddite talking about that which you do not know. Crap, you brought a freaking VCR into your argument. And to complete the line, don't ever talk about Bitcoin with dogeshit ever again in the same sentence if you expect to be taken serious anywhere near this watering hole.
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January 19, 2015, 06:59:02 AM
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In regards to businesses accepting BTC, if you're not still in the dark ages you'd realize how far BTC has come and where it is accepted. List them for me is your next homework assignment. ty

Oh lord, Russia is constantly proving it hard for citizens to buy bitcoin at reliable places and furthermore to hold which is why this talk about them is materializing. It ain't banned as u know.

And there you go like some luddite talking about that which you do not know. Crap, you brought a freaking VCR into your argument. And to complete the line, don't ever talk about Bitcoin with dogeshit ever again in the same sentence if you expect to be taken serious anywhere near this watering hole.

Looks like I hit a nerve. Bitcoin and dogecoin are exactly the fucking same. Perhaps less businesses accept Dogecoin, but until the infrastructure is in place for the majority of cryptocurrencies to be accepted, they're all shit. To call me a Luddite is ridiculous. Bitcoin, as are all cryptocurrencies, is a technology. And to think that the very first cryptocurrency made is going to be the one that succeeds, even in the medium to long run, is just silly.

We are in times of abundance now. The dollar is extremely strong and it's not going anywhere. It would take a literal disaster scenario for Bitcoin to really recover. Keep in mind that the majority of the free world has heard of bitcoin by this point. There is no more 'going viral' for it. Those bubble stages are GONE. They are over. And yes, many businesses are accepting Bitcoin, but what to do they do as soon as they get it? They cash out. Not only does this increase pressure on driving the price down, but it exhibits Bitcoin's poor viability. They don't keep their assets in Bitcoin, and they can't because the price is so damn volatile, and it always has been. By the time any cryptocurrency takes off, it won't even be Bitcoin that succeeds. Keep in mind that the exponential take off in quantum computing strength over the next few years will render Bitcoin's wallet public key protocols invalid.

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In regards to businesses accepting BTC, if you're not still in the dark ages you'd realize how far BTC has come and where it is accepted. List them for me is your next homework assignment. ty

Oh lord, Russia is constantly proving it hard for citizens to buy bitcoin at reliable places and furthermore to hold which is why this talk about them is materializing. It ain't banned as u know.

And there you go like some luddite talking about that which you do not know. Crap, you brought a freaking VCR into your argument. And to complete the line, don't ever talk about Bitcoin with dogeshit ever again in the same sentence if you expect to be taken serious anywhere near this watering hole.

Looks like I hit a nerve. Bitcoin and dogecoin are exactly the fucking same. Perhaps less businesses accept Dogecoin, but until the infrastructure is in place for the majority of cryptocurrencies to be accepted, they're all shit. To call me a Luddite is ridiculous. Bitcoin, as are all cryptocurrencies, is a technology. And to think that the very first cryptocurrency made is going to be the one that succeeds, even in the medium to long run, is just silly.

We are in times of abundance now. The dollar is extremely strong and it's not going anywhere. It would take a literal disaster scenario for Bitcoin to really recover. Keep in mind that the majority of the free world has heard of bitcoin by this point. There is no more 'going viral' for it. Those bubble stages are GONE. They are over. And yes, many businesses are accepting Bitcoin, but what to do they do as soon as they get it? They cash out. Not only does this increase pressure on driving the price down, but it exhibits Bitcoin's poor viability. They don't keep their assets in Bitcoin, and they can't because the price is so damn volatile, and it always has been. By the time any cryptocurrency takes off, it won't even be Bitcoin that succeeds. Keep in mind that the exponential take off in quantum computing strength over the next few years will render Bitcoin's wallet public key protocols invalid.

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January 19, 2015, 07:05:54 AM
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It's because they don't really believe in it. If they did, they would just let it sit, and wouldn't bother watching the price at all.

That's why they're all in here, pumping it up like a penny stock and eating and believing their own shit.

I'm seeing a lot of denial here; an enormous amount of denial. You need to face something; Bitcoin has no use in the civilized world. I pay with cash or credit for everything. If a business doesn't take credit, I don't even frequent it. Considering the hurdles with accepting Bitcoin, mass adoption seems as likely as never. It's already been how many years now?

If a government can just ban Bitcoin, then you can never expect it to succeed either. Just look at what happened in Russia: Their currency has plummeted to a third of what it was a few months ago, yet the Russian people didn't all flock to Bitcoin. They weren't allowed to, and it wasn't seen as a viable alternative. Cyprus proved Bitcoin's legitimacy, Russia proved its worthlessness.

You need to stop talking about this shit like it's going to keep going up forever. Dogecoin parodied this mentality exactly: "To da moon!". A strong, steady decline like what Bitcoin has experienced is reminiscent of the VCR, or any technology, rather. Face it, Bitcoin is a technology. Even if cryptocurrencies were to succeed on a regular, nonblack market, it wouldn't be Bitcoin that succeeds.

I say face the reality. A truly rational person wouldn't feel the need to come in here and try talking about how everyone not investing in Bitcoin is an idiot. If they believe in it, then what others do wouldn't matter, and they wouldn't need to check the price constantly. That's all. Good luck to you all, I don't feel like this industry has any merit any longer. It feels like when Tamagotchi's went out of style. Maybe this will have more success in ten years.

As long as bitcoin is capable of storing value, and transferring that value from person to person, then bitcoin still has merit.

The value I perceive in bitcoin is not measured by it's price. Also, this not an industry, this is a new form of currency. If you are looking at bitcoin as a way to make a living then maybe you've got an incorrect perspective. Bitcoin is an innovation of the way money works. We are only 6 years in, if you told me in 2011 when I first heard of bitcoin that it would trading for $197 in the year 2015 I wouldn't have believed you. When bitcoin was at $3, what we have now seemed utterly impossible.

If I could somehow erase my memory of bitcoin soaring to $1200 and just new that from 2011 when I first heard of bitcoin it went from utter obscurity and trading at $3 to approved by the US Government as a viable currency, acceptance on Overstock.com NewEgg.com Dell.com TigerDirect.com Microsoft and Paypal and trading at $197, i'd say HOLY COW bitcoin has really made a lot of progress in just 4 years!

If you first heard about bitcoin when it was selling at $1200, then all you have ever experienced is a slow decline in price. In reality, the price has risen tremendously in 4 years. It's gone from $3 to $197 and people are complaining that it no longer has any merit!?

The merit of bitcoin is in it's utility. The infrastructure still works, transactions are still able to be made, value is still able to be stored, central authority is still unnecessary. All of the merit of bitcoin is still intact. 10 years from now all of the merit of bitcoin will still be intact. 20 years from now all of the merit of bitcoin will still be intact. 50 years from now all of the merit of bitcoin will still be intact. What do you think it's just going to disappear? We have invented a superior monetary system and we are all just going to pretend that we didn't?

Of course it will take time to catch on, just as the internet did. My parent didn't get the internet until it was on their phones for christ sake. Six years after the internet was invented it seemed pretty bleak too, but give it time. Six years is not even giving it a chance to succeed. If after 20 years bitcoin hasn't caught on then maybe you're right, but right now I think all you see is a downtrend in price and that has got you down.

When I first heard of bitcoin, all I heard was that it was useless and going away. It just crashed from $30 all the way down to $3 and everyone was in a panic and declaring that this industry no longer has any merit. Well they were wrong. The merit of bitcoin has nothing to do with the price. All of the merit of bitcoin is still and there will continue to be there as long as transactions can be made and value can be stored. Period.

I predict another price rally, then another crash, then another rally, then another crash. And predict that one day the price is going to crash all the way from $14,000 down to $1200 and people are going to cry that bitcoin is dead, and this industry does not have any merit any more. And you know what I'll be doing? Trading as many Federal Reserve Notes as I can into bitcoins every month regardless of what the price is at. If the price is low HURRAY! cheap bitcoin! If the price is high HURRAY! my bitcoin is more valuable!

The price is ultimately irrelevant. My brother is going to college in another state. If he asks me for $5 for lunch money what am I supposed to do? Call my bank and wire him some money? Or just click a button on my phone and 2 seconds later he has 24 mBTC in his wallet. What if he is on vacation in mexico? Should I Western Union him some money or just click a button my phone and two seconds later he has the money and there's no charge. If I have a website that sells good should I pay a 3rd party a transaction fee every time one of my customers purchases something or just get the money directly as if it was cash by using bitcoin. How difficult is it buy something on Overstock.com using bitcoin? No more difficult than entering my name address phone number credit card number expiration date and security code to buy something using a credit card. There is no reason to believe that more and more businesses will begin to accept bitcoin as well.

The only people who are affected by the price and declare that bitcoin is dead and dying because of the price are people who are trying to make money off of money. Bitcoin was not created to make people money. Bitcoin was not created as a get rich quick scheme. Bitcoin was not created as an industry. Bitcoin was created as a new improved form of money. As long as bitcoin is capable of storing value, and transferring that value from person to person, then bitcoin still has merit.

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I think those people who had dreams of big wealth from Bitcoin are the ones saying that Bitcoin is dead.
It is simply sour grapes!
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I think those people who had dreams of big wealth from Bitcoin are the ones saying that Bitcoin is dead.
It is simply sour grapes!
We call them weak hands. There have been worse crashes than this.

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if it dropes from 800$ to 200$ that doesnot mean its the end bitcoin is still worlds heavest currency probabely you will change yor mind
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I think those people who had dreams of big wealth from Bitcoin are the ones saying that Bitcoin is dead.
It is simply sour grapes!

yeah that true but still i dont think its not big welth coming hovever mining will become less profitable
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January 19, 2015, 12:33:34 PM
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That's the spirit I guess. Bitcoin is just passing through a rough patch and it will bring joy to the bitcoin community pretty soon. But one thing is for certain, those who have stayed and supported will be rewarded.

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January 19, 2015, 12:47:37 PM
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I think one thing that may case to bitcoin, I read Some where that BTC can be used for feeding Terrorist and other Illegal ways like black money transfer, laundering money etc. People can send their Black money any where with out being located.

~ OTS ~

That's correct. These are real facts not only rumors.

Care to share at least one of these facts where bitcoin was used to sponsor terrorist? I'm not talking about some guy speculating that bitcoin could be used for such, I'm talking about confirmed facts.

Thanks in advance


yes:   https://alkhilafaharidat.wordpress.com/

Can't see it... Can you copy/paste the relevant part?
Also, if these are 'real facts' I'm sure you can find any more serious source than wordpress blog?

Well see here: http://www.sitepronews.com/2014/10/06/bitcoin-used-fund-terrorism/

Secindly: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-07/department-defense-study-bitcoin-terrorist-threat

It might be helpful for you.

That's not what I asked for. I asked Mayax to provide proof when Bitcoin was actually used for sponsoring terrorists ('real facts').
So far we only have speculations that it could be used for such, but no evidence of that happening.

So looks like, at least so far, all the terrorists are perfectly happy with using fiat (despite all the restrictions of money transfers etc).

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I think one thing that may case to bitcoin, I read Some where that BTC can be used for feeding Terrorist and other Illegal ways like black money transfer, laundering money etc. People can send their Black money any where with out being located.

~ OTS ~

That's correct. These are real facts not only rumors.

Care to share at least one of these facts where bitcoin was used to sponsor terrorist? I'm not talking about some guy speculating that bitcoin could be used for such, I'm talking about confirmed facts.

Thanks in advance


yes:   https://alkhilafaharidat.wordpress.com/

Can't see it... Can you copy/paste the relevant part?
Also, if these are 'real facts' I'm sure you can find any more serious source than wordpress blog?

Well see here: http://www.sitepronews.com/2014/10/06/bitcoin-used-fund-terrorism/

Secindly: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-07/department-defense-study-bitcoin-terrorist-threat

It might be helpful for you.

That's not what I asked for. I asked Mayax to provide proof when Bitcoin was actually used for sponsoring terrorists ('real facts').
So far we only have speculations that it could be used for such, but no evidence of that happening.

So looks like, at least so far, all the terrorists are perfectly happy with using fiat (despite all the restrictions of money transfers etc).


every thing have pro and cons its all depend on you how you use things everything including mobile and computer can be used for terrorist activities that dont make any sense
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It's because they don't really believe in it. If they did, they would just let it sit, and wouldn't bother watching the price at all.

That's why they're all in here, pumping it up like a penny stock and eating and believing their own shit.

I'm seeing a lot of denial here; an enormous amount of denial. You need to face something; Bitcoin has no use in the civilized world. I pay with cash or credit for everything. If a business doesn't take credit, I don't even frequent it. Considering the hurdles with accepting Bitcoin, mass adoption seems as likely as never. It's already been how many years now?

If a government can just ban Bitcoin, then you can never expect it to succeed either. Just look at what happened in Russia: Their currency has plummeted to a third of what it was a few months ago, yet the Russian people didn't all flock to Bitcoin. They weren't allowed to, and it wasn't seen as a viable alternative. Cyprus proved Bitcoin's legitimacy, Russia proved its worthlessness.

You need to stop talking about this shit like it's going to keep going up forever. Dogecoin parodied this mentality exactly: "To da moon!". A strong, steady decline like what Bitcoin has experienced is reminiscent of the VCR, or any technology, rather. Face it, Bitcoin is a technology. Even if cryptocurrencies were to succeed on a regular, nonblack market, it wouldn't be Bitcoin that succeeds.

I say face the reality. A truly rational person wouldn't feel the need to come in here and try talking about how everyone not investing in Bitcoin is an idiot. If they believe in it, then what others do wouldn't matter, and they wouldn't need to check the price constantly. That's all. Good luck to you all, I don't feel like this industry has any merit any longer. It feels like when Tamagotchi's went out of style. Maybe this will have more success in ten years.

As long as bitcoin is capable of storing value, and transferring that value from person to person, then bitcoin still has merit.

The value I perceive in bitcoin is not measured by it's price. Also, this not an industry, this is a new form of currency. If you are looking at bitcoin as a way to make a living then maybe you've got an incorrect perspective. Bitcoin is an innovation of the way money works. We are only 6 years in, if you told me in 2011 when I first heard of bitcoin that it would trading for $197 in the year 2015 I wouldn't have believed you. When bitcoin was at $3, what we have now seemed utterly impossible.

If I could somehow erase my memory of bitcoin soaring to $1200 and just new that from 2011 when I first heard of bitcoin it went from utter obscurity and trading at $3 to approved by the US Government as a viable currency, acceptance on Overstock.com NewEgg.com Dell.com TigerDirect.com Microsoft and Paypal and trading at $197, i'd say HOLY COW bitcoin has really made a lot of progress in just 4 years!

If you first heard about bitcoin when it was selling at $1200, then all you have ever experienced is a slow decline in price. In reality, the price has risen tremendously in 4 years. It's gone from $3 to $197 and people are complaining that it no longer has any merit!?

The merit of bitcoin is in it's utility. The infrastructure still works, transactions are still able to be made, value is still able to be stored, central authority is still unnecessary. All of the merit of bitcoin is still intact. 10 years from now all of the merit of bitcoin will still be intact. 20 years from now all of the merit of bitcoin will still be intact. 50 years from now all of the merit of bitcoin will still be intact. What do you think it's just going to disappear? We have invented a superior monetary system and we are all just going to pretend that we didn't?

Of course it will take time to catch on, just as the internet did. My parent didn't get the internet until it was on their phones for christ sake. Six years after the internet was invented it seemed pretty bleak too, but give it time. Six years is not even giving it a chance to succeed. If after 20 years bitcoin hasn't caught on then maybe you're right, but right now I think all you see is a downtrend in price and that has got you down.

When I first heard of bitcoin, all I heard was that it was useless and going away. It just crashed from $30 all the way down to $3 and everyone was in a panic and declaring that this industry no longer has any merit. Well they were wrong. The merit of bitcoin has nothing to do with the price. All of the merit of bitcoin is still and there will continue to be there as long as transactions can be made and value can be stored. Period.

I predict another price rally, then another crash, then another rally, then another crash. And predict that one day the price is going to crash all the way from $14,000 down to $1200 and people are going to cry that bitcoin is dead, and this industry does not have any merit any more. And you know what I'll be doing? Trading as many Federal Reserve Notes as I can into bitcoins every month regardless of what the price is at. If the price is low HURRAY! cheap bitcoin! If the price is high HURRAY! my bitcoin is more valuable!

The price is ultimately irrelevant. My brother is going to college in another state. If he asks me for $5 for lunch money what am I supposed to do? Call my bank and wire him some money? Or just click a button on my phone and 2 seconds later he has 24 mBTC in his wallet. What if he is on vacation in mexico? Should I Western Union him some money or just click a button my phone and two seconds later he has the money and there's no charge. If I have a website that sells good should I pay a 3rd party a transaction fee every time one of my customers purchases something or just get the money directly as if it was cash by using bitcoin. How difficult is it buy something on Overstock.com using bitcoin? No more difficult than entering my name address phone number credit card number expiration date and security code to buy something using a credit card. There is no reason to believe that more and more businesses will begin to accept bitcoin as well.

The only people who are affected by the price and declare that bitcoin is dead and dying because of the price are people who are trying to make money off of money. Bitcoin was not created to make people money. Bitcoin was not created as a get rich quick scheme. Bitcoin was not created as an industry. Bitcoin was created as a new improved form of money. As long as bitcoin is capable of storing value, and transferring that value from person to person, then bitcoin still has merit.

Hey, thanks for a reasonable, rational response.

I see all these things, but again, I don't think bitcoin will be the specific cryptocurrency that succeeds. On a day to day basis, not enough people are wiring enough money abroad to find a use in this stuff. I do think, however, that it will have utility in inter-planetary trade, especially when quantum entanglement makes interplanetary transactions a reality. That day is far off though, and so I think that you can expect Bitcoin to remain where it is today for quite some time. I would hold more in Bitcoin if I could use it in as many places that took credit (like Starbucks, or a deli).

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OP is a liar. Nobody sticks around for 4 years and then just gets out one random day. The protocol hasn't change so I doubt you are going anywhere.
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January 20, 2015, 05:37:04 AM
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OP is a liar. Nobody sticks around for 4 years and then just gets out one random day. The protocol hasn't change so I doubt you are going anywhere.

It was a sarcastic post. If you follow the links he posted, you'll know how.

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January 20, 2015, 06:33:26 AM
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I like all the subliminal messages in the video. To the moon HAHA. But the intro was the best part.. "Thats how I roll" HAHAHA

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Your sources are very legit  Wink I think you only came to bitcoin to become rich which didn't happen. Appreciate the technology.

   
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January 20, 2015, 06:59:14 AM
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I don't understand why bitcoiners watch the price so much.

It's because they don't really believe in it. If they did, they would just let it sit, and wouldn't bother watching the price at all.

That's why they're all in here, pumping it up like a penny stock and eating and believing their own shit.

I'm seeing a lot of denial here; an enormous amount of denial. You need to face something; Bitcoin has no use in the civilized world. I pay with cash or credit for everything. If a business doesn't take credit, I don't even frequent it. Considering the hurdles with accepting Bitcoin, mass adoption seems as likely as never. It's already been how many years now?

If a government can just ban Bitcoin, then you can never expect it to succeed either. Just look at what happened in Russia: Their currency has plummeted to a third of what it was a few months ago, yet the Russian people didn't all flock to Bitcoin. They weren't allowed to, and it wasn't seen as a viable alternative. Cyprus proved Bitcoin's legitimacy, Russia proved its worthlessness.

You need to stop talking about this shit like it's going to keep going up forever. Dogecoin parodied this mentality exactly: "To da moon!". A strong, steady decline like what Bitcoin has experienced is reminiscent of the VCR, or any technology, rather. Face it, Bitcoin is a technology. Even if cryptocurrencies were to succeed on a regular, nonblack market, it wouldn't be Bitcoin that succeeds.

I say face the reality. A truly rational person wouldn't feel the need to come in here and try talking about how everyone not investing in Bitcoin is an idiot. If they believe in it, then what others do wouldn't matter, and they wouldn't need to check the price constantly. That's all. Good luck to you all, I don't feel like this industry has any merit any longer. It feels like when Tamagotchi's went out of style. Maybe this will have more success in ten years.

Thank you. Thank you so much for this wonderful post so full of simple economic truths.

It brings actual physical relief to read such wisdom, so rare among endless hordes of deranged cultists.

Invest in the future ; Doesn't have to be Bitcoin.
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January 20, 2015, 07:03:19 AM
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So should OP change the thread title to "Im fucking out. bitcoin will be over soon..UNconfirmed."?

Bitcoin has survived many storms and i think a stable future is certainly ahead of us all.
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If you are f**ing out, why bother posting this message?

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OP, where is the fucking miner which confirmed your statement? Cheesy

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Bitcoin never die
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January 20, 2015, 02:10:06 PM
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OP is a liar. Nobody sticks around for 4 years and then just gets out one random day. The protocol hasn't change so I doubt you are going anywhere.

You're correct. I was being facetious.  I didn't start mining bitcoin 5 years ago to become rich but because I was interested in economics and new tech. Regardless of anything else, I have learned a lot over these years and have grown a lot as an individual. I'm going to keep working with it and sharpen my skills so that I can offer something of value to others.

I can't kill the bitcoin any more than Karpeles can eat the bitcoin or Krugman and a host of disgusting trolls can defile the bitcoin. It will smack them all to the ground. Cheesy

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January 20, 2015, 02:11:36 PM
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OP is a liar. Nobody sticks around for 4 years and then just gets out one random day. The protocol hasn't change so I doubt you are going anywhere.
Spot on. Probably an attempt to manipulate or influence the public by following his advice so that he has more time to buy 'cheap' coins.

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OP is a liar. Nobody sticks around for 4 years and then just gets out one random day. The protocol hasn't change so I doubt you are going anywhere.
Spot on. Probably an attempt to manipulate or influence the public by following his advice so that he has more time to buy 'cheap' coins.


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Sheesh. Some people have now idea how to see sarcasm
I admit, I only read the subject and not the content of his post.
I was grabbed by the emotion.
Don't touch my precious bitcoin. Wink

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Bitcoin never die
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The blockchain symbolizes a shift in power from the centers to the edges of the networks. It is a vision that we have romanced since the early days of the Internet, but it can actually happen this time, because it is powered by an intrinsic monetary value, the Internet’s own native cryptocurrency... Grin
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Man oh man, why have I invested all this time, money, and energy into this dying Cryptocurrency.   Cry

Bitcoin dead in 2015.  RIP.

WHAT"S THAT?!  There's still life in this thing!?!   Shocked Shocked Shocked

NYSE jumpin' in!  Okay okay, I'm listening... Grin


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January 20, 2015, 04:28:35 PM
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Unfortunately there are a lot of people thinking like OP, that are not trolling. People is emotional with their investments and can't handle devaluations that go as low as 70%+ even tho the long term is still looking good. People has no patience. Whatever, better redistribution then.
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All of the attention, whether positive or negative is still attention and Bitcoin becomes more well known.
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positive attention is better
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Yet another sign we are close to the time to be buying like crazy.



Every 10 Bitcoin deaths there is a nice buy frenzy, so we are about to hit a bull phase.

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What is funny is how perspective can change what you see. I can't believe the awesome stuff going on compared to just two years ago let alone 5 years of bitcoin development and adoption.  Anyone truly getting out now because of low price are missing out on a lot of opportunity (just like the folks who got out in summer/fall/winter of 2011) cause this party is just getting started.  Watch out for the rocketship!

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Until the rocketship, I'm chill.

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Moral of the story... If you don't have a long term vision for bitcoin, you don't have any vision at all.

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Moral of the story... If you don't have a long term vision for bitcoin, you don't have any vision at all.

What long-term visi which is nice for bitcoin do you think?
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Well he got it sort of right
The forum died so bitcoin love was over for a bit  Wink
But it came back again and is working as usual
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You will regret your decision..confirmed & we will see a better future for bitcoin

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Bitcoin use to be worth much less its still worth way more then most other currencies what other currency is worth $200 per 1 of them. None. Good try though Bitcoin will continue to be used and even if it was at 1:1 ratio with dollar it would still beat out most other currencies in the whole entire world.

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Moral of the story... If you don't have a long term vision for bitcoin, you don't have any vision at all.

What long-term visi which is nice for bitcoin do you think?

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/hyperbitcoinization/

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Bitcoin is going to the moon soon, sure I wish we will be going to the $400 in the coming weeks... anything can happen in the Wild Crypto World!!!

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Bitcoin use to be worth much less its still worth way more then most other currencies what other currency is worth $200 per 1 of them. None. Good try though Bitcoin will continue to be used and even if it was at 1:1 ratio with dollar it would still beat out most other currencies in the whole entire world.

but if bitcoin rate back to 1:1 ratio with dollar it means Game Over for bitcoin world Smiley
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Bitcoin use to be worth much less its still worth way more then most other currencies what other currency is worth $200 per 1 of them. None. Good try though Bitcoin will continue to be used and even if it was at 1:1 ratio with dollar it would still beat out most other currencies in the whole entire world.

but if bitcoin rate back to 1:1 ratio with dollar it means Game Over for bitcoin world Smiley

If your 'game' is to 'get rich quick' then yes, it would be a 'game over' for you, but not necessarily for bitcoin as a project.

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Damit only January 23rd, and both Bitcoin and it's forum died already.  I"m fucking out too!   Angry

Wait a minute, you're telling me there's going to be a wall street like, regulated, and legitimate compliant exchange where both individuals and institutions can participate equally???

https://blog.gemini.com/welcome-to-gemini/

So now not only do we have a real blue chip exchange, but we have the pending ETF COIN by those Winklevii.  All this upcoming year.

Ok, you got me, I'll be sticking around for now.   Grin

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Wow, I didn't realize how hard satire was for some people until I read this thread.

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You'll change your mind soon.

yup.!! soon buddy..!! sooon.! Cheesy

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Bitcoin use to be worth much less its still worth way more then most other currencies what other currency is worth $200 per 1 of them. None. Good try though Bitcoin will continue to be used and even if it was at 1:1 ratio with dollar it would still beat out most other currencies in the whole entire world.

but if bitcoin rate back to 1:1 ratio with dollar it means Game Over for bitcoin world Smiley
Why? bitcoin and the blockchain would still do what they are meant to do.
I can see it would be really frustrating for investors tho..

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If bitcoin gets really low I am going to just buy a shit ton of it.
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First post on BTC talk. Nice video  Grin
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If bitcoin gets really low I am going to just buy a shit ton of it.

Come on do it. It will make the Bitcoin price high again Cheesy

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bitcoin is dead. get out before it's too late

When is the funeral and where can we get flowers with bitcons from?

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people dont you thing this is to of a rush thing and desperate i mean the bitcoin its now at 230 dollars per btc it has been lower and it has been highr it might rise a bit and we know that btc its stable for the past 4 years soo i dint think its going to be a dead coin much soo no its a healthy coin and others like alt coins will rise like ltc doge and dark and burst and soo on but thats more for alt coins soo what i think its btc will survive and prosper like many of us here dont get too desperate

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How does one fuck outwards?

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+18% since the OP.  Cheesy
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I am planning to buy huge amount of bitcoins if its come below 100, but it is up again to 239... lol

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Bitcoin might be over, which i highly doubt. But the blockchain will last.  Smiley

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people dont you thing this is to of a rush thing and desperate i mean the bitcoin its now at 230 dollars per btc it has been lower and it has been highr it might rise a bit and we know that btc its stable for the past 4 years soo i dint think its going to be a dead coin much soo no its a healthy coin and others like alt coins will rise like ltc doge and dark and burst and soo on but thats more for alt coins soo what i think its btc will survive and prosper like many of us here dont get too desperate

OP has certainly panic sold. It seems like it's going up again. For all we know he may have sold right at the bottom. Poor guy, really unfortunate..
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Every day there are threads or posts saying Bitcoin will be dead soon since Bitcoin was founded.   Till now the "soon" seems to be eternity.
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people dont you thing this is to of a rush thing and desperate i mean the bitcoin its now at 230 dollars per btc it has been lower and it has been highr it might rise a bit and we know that btc its stable for the past 4 years soo i dint think its going to be a dead coin much soo no its a healthy coin and others like alt coins will rise like ltc doge and dark and burst and soo on but thats more for alt coins soo what i think its btc will survive and prosper like many of us here dont get too desperate

OP has certainly panic sold. It seems like it's going up again. For all we know he may have sold right at the bottom. Poor guy, really unfortunate..

Nope, no panic here brah.

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 Tongue this happens all the time... people saying that bitcoin is dead. This will not happen soon, nor fast, and nobody knows the future, all I can say is that investors don't alarm about bitcoin daily price, they thing on the long term 5-10 years forward, follow them, ignore desperate alarms!

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Also, just because bitcoin is going through turbulence, doesn't mean it's gonna crash. If you think it's just a get rich quick theme, you might as well leave.

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+18% since the OP.  Cheesy

+22% now.  Don't panic!

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Idiots bail at the first sign of down trends... Would like to personally thank You for future profits.
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damn, i sold all BTC at 180 USD  Cry - now iam panic buying!

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damn, i sold all BTC at 180 USD  Cry - now iam panic buying!
I sold a bunch at lows like that twice. I finally learned my lesson and became a permabull.

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Idiots bail at the first sign of down trends... Would like to personally thank You for future profits.
God luvs idiots  Wink

It’s no wonder why mainstream people are scared of bitcoin.  There’s such a mix of speculators treating BTC like a commodity investment & purists that want mainstream adoption as an everyday currency.  “News flash” it can only do one function well, it’s either a growth investment or a currency.  To attract new major venture capital investment, bitcoin needs to be volatile and have room for rapid growth.  For mainstream people to adopt it as an everyday currency, it needs to be moderately stable.

To be widely accepted, bitcoin needs to settle down. People want their currency value to remain fairly stable, not fluctuate wildly like a commodity stock.  Imagine if your paycheck was paid only in bitcoins and you would gain or loose 35% of it's value week to week.  Currently you still have to convert to fiat $ to pay bills.  Would your utility company, landlord or mortgage company deal with +/- 35% weekly value fluctuations?   Would you be able to pay your rent, mortgage, car & health insurance or buy groceries? Sorry kids, we don't eat this week:(

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damn, i sold all BTC at 180 USD  Cry - now iam panic buying!
I sold a bunch at lows like that twice. I finally learned my lesson and became a permabull.

well, actually that was a joke and i bought alot  Grin

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btc will not be stable for a loooong time. but that is not a problem. there is already a service called "LOCKS" which basically locks the btc value. other services will add similar things and make btc stable.

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damn, i sold all BTC at 180 USD  Cry - now iam panic buying!
I sold a bunch at lows like that twice. I finally learned my lesson and became a permabull.

well, actually that was a joke and i bought alot  Grin

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btc will not be stable for a loooong time. but that is not a problem. there is already a service called "LOCKS" which basically locks the btc value. other services will add similar things and make btc stable.

Are you talking about the "Locks" service provided by Panama-based bitcoin wallet provider Coinapult?  

If so my BS meter is flashing RED.  They would have to have significant assets to cover the extreme recent BTC price fluctuations.  

There's a reason companies setup in Panama, the Fed's can't easily haul them in for fraud.  

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Just because the price is going down? Many stocks go down then recover especially when they are stocks of a new high tech company. Bitcoin is still in business!

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Just because the price is going down? Many stocks go down then recover especially when they are stocks of a new high tech company. Bitcoin is still in business!
Bitcoin is supposed to be a currency not a stock.

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Just because the price is going down? Many stocks go down then recover especially when they are stocks of a new high tech company. Bitcoin is still in business!
Bitcoin is supposed to be a currency not a stock.

Unless people actually use it, it will be seen as a stock Sad

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Just because the price is going down? Many stocks go down then recover especially when they are stocks of a new high tech company. Bitcoin is still in business!
Bitcoin is supposed to be a currency not a stock.

Unless people actually use it, it will be seen as a stock Sad

It’s no wonder why mainstream people are scared of bitcoin.  There’s such a mix of speculators treating BTC like a commodity investment & purists that want mainstream adoption as an everyday currency.  “News flash” it can only do one function well, it’s either a growth investment or a currency.  To attract new major venture capital investment, bitcoin needs to be volatile and have room for rapid growth.  For mainstream people to adopt it as an everyday currency, it needs to be moderately stable.

To be widely accepted, bitcoin needs to settle down. People want their currency value to remain fairly stable, not fluctuate wildly like a commodity stock.  Imagine if your paycheck was paid only in bitcoins and you would gain or loose 35% of it's value week to week.  Currently you still have to convert to fiat $ to pay bills.  Would your utility company, landlord or mortgage company deal with +/- 35% weekly value fluctuations?   Would you be able to pay your rent, mortgage, car & health insurance or buy groceries? Sorry kids, we don't eat this week:(

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damn, i sold all BTC at 180 USD  Cry - now iam panic buying!
I sold a bunch at lows like that twice. I finally learned my lesson and became a permabull.

well, actually that was a joke and i bought alot  Grin

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btc will not be stable for a loooong time. but that is not a problem. there is already a service called "LOCKS" which basically locks the btc value. other services will add similar things and make btc stable.

Are you talking about the "Locks" service provided by Panama-based bitcoin wallet provider Coinapult?  

If so my BS meter is flashing RED.  They would have to have significant assets to cover the extreme recent BTC price fluctuations.  

There's a reason companies setup in Panama, the Fed's can't easily haul them in for fraud.  


that is what iam talking about. best solution so far. you can also use some financial products (hedge) for this kind of stuff.

do you have a better solution for that problem  Wink ?

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Love the obit site! Markets can be scary for some plus half of the battle in trading is psychological.

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So, how are you bitcoin ??  Grin
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damn, i sold all BTC at 180 USD  Cry - now iam panic buying!
I sold a bunch at lows like that twice. I finally learned my lesson and became a permabull.

well, actually that was a joke and i bought alot  Grin

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btc will not be stable for a loooong time. but that is not a problem. there is already a service called "LOCKS" which basically locks the btc value. other services will add similar things and make btc stable.

Are you talking about the "Locks" service provided by Panama-based bitcoin wallet provider Coinapult?  

If so my BS meter is flashing RED.  They would have to have significant assets to cover the extreme recent BTC price fluctuations.  

There's a reason companies setup in Panama, the Fed's can't easily haul them in for fraud.  


that is what iam talking about. best solution so far. you can also use some financial products (hedge) for this kind of stuff.

do you have a better solution for that problem  Wink ?
Do you really call "Coinapult" a solution?  Do you seriously think that they really could survive holding a 79% loss on the books for over 6 months & still be able to pay commitments?
To (hedge) a 79% loss you need an alternative income source to support it.  Located in Panama, I imagine they have so many other alternate income streams, really?
I wouldn't count on them fulfilling their commitments when the BTC price fluctuates wildly.


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You may choose to “lock” a certain amount of bitcoins in accordance with these Terms (the “Fixed Bitcoins”). When you “lock” your bitcoins, you are converting your Fixed Bitcoins into the right to receive a future amount of bitcoins based upon a future offered rate. We do not offer exchange services, and you are only entitled to receive bitcoins from us as set forth in these Terms.

Locking Quote
Before “locking” your Fixed Bitcoins, you will obtain a quote of the locking value of the Fixed Bitcoins corresponding to the value assigned by our system to an underlying asset or currency. Coinapult will communicate a time window to accept the quote for locking your Fixed Bitcoins into Variable Bitcoins.

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After having received a locking value for a certain amount of Fixed Bitcoins, you may accept the quote. After your acceptance of the quote described above, subject to these Terms, your Fixed Bitcoins will be converted into the right to receive a future amount of variable bitcoins corresponding to the quoted underlying asset or currency value (the “Variable Bitcoins”). By accepting the quote, you are further authorizing Coinapult to display a Variable Bitcoin balance in your wallet corresponding to the underlying asset value of your Fixed Bitcoins at the time of the lock.



 


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Do you really call "Coinapult" a solution?  Do you seriously think that they really could survive holding a 79% loss on the books for over 6 months & still be able to pay commitments?
To (hedge) a 79% loss you need an alternative income source to support it.  Located in Panama, I imagine they have so many other alternate income streams, really?
I wouldn't count on them fulfilling their commitments when the BTC price fluctuates wildly.


79% of what?

Anyhow, if you're concerned about their business model just ask them directly to explain it to you (before declaring them insolvent). IIRC they're active on this forum.

And they're not the only business that offers such service:

http://www.coindesk.com/first-glimpse-inside-halsey-minors-new-payments-platform-bitreserve/

https://bitreserve.org/en/homepage

https://bitreserve.org/en/status

BitReserve have offices in US and Shanghai, if Panama is not good for you.

ps I don't use neither Coinapult or Bitreserve, so I cannot vouch for any of them.

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January 25, 2015, 11:33:17 AM
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Coinapult doesn't need to lose money based on the bitcoin price. They charge a fee when someone uses 'locks'. If someone signs up, sends 1 bitcoin and locks it at $250 (or whatever the market price is), then all coinapult has to do is sell 1 bitcoin on an exchange for $250. When someone 'unlocks' they buy back $250 worth of bitcoin on an exchange. They can profit from the fees each time and need take no risk. This is a bit obvious, of course, so I'm skeptical that anyone doesn't know this.

As for being based in Panama, that makes me trust them a lot more. If there were providing a useful service while being located in the U.S., they'd either need to have friends in high places or they'd be shut down. At least being in Panama forces the U.S. agents to make a small international incident out of it.

If you'd prefer a solution based in the U.S. and you're a United Station (I can't imagine a non-USan prefering such a thing), then you could start one yourself. There's clearly a market for it, so you could make money off the fees. (Realistically, of course, it would cost a lot to start up and then they'd shut you down and possibly put you in prison, but hey, freedom isn't free.)

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January 25, 2015, 12:34:37 PM
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Do you really call "Coinapult" a solution?  Do you seriously think that they really could survive holding a 79% loss on the books for over 6 months & still be able to pay commitments?
To (hedge) a 79% loss you need an alternative income source to support it.  Located in Panama, I imagine they have so many other alternate income streams, really?
I wouldn't count on them fulfilling their commitments when the BTC price fluctuates wildly.


79% of what?

Anyhow, if you're concerned about their business model just ask them directly to explain it to you (before declaring them insolvent). IIRC they're active on this forum.

And they're not the only business that offers such service:

http://www.coindesk.com/first-glimpse-inside-halsey-minors-new-payments-platform-bitreserve/

https://bitreserve.org/en/homepage

https://bitreserve.org/en/status

BitReserve have offices in US and Shanghai, if Panama is not good for you.

ps I don't use neither Coinapult or Bitreserve, so I cannot vouch for any of them.

79% of what?  The high bitcoin price $1,200 to $250 = 79% decrease

I didn't declare them insolvent, I just don't trust any company offering a guaranteed BTC to $ return especially when you read the TOS.

I had a roommate from Panama that said that for enough $$$$ you could essentially do what ever you wanted as long as the right people were paid off.

Now back to my original problem with bitcoin volatility.   

To be widely accepted, bitcoin needs to settle down. People want their currency value to remain fairly stable, not fluctuate wildly like a commodity stock.  Imagine if your paycheck was paid only in bitcoins and you would gain or loose 35% of it's value week to week.  Currently you still have to convert to fiat $ to pay bills.  Would your utility company, landlord or mortgage company deal with +/- 35% weekly value fluctuations?   Would you be able to pay your rent, mortgage, car & health insurance or buy groceries? Sorry kids, we don't eat this week:(


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Now back to my original problem with bitcoin volatility.   




I Love Bitcoin’s Volatility

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/i-love-bitcoins-volatility/
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Do you really call "Coinapult" a solution?  Do you seriously think that they really could survive holding a 79% loss on the books for over 6 months & still be able to pay commitments?
To (hedge) a 79% loss you need an alternative income source to support it.  Located in Panama, I imagine they have so many other alternate income streams, really?
I wouldn't count on them fulfilling their commitments when the BTC price fluctuates wildly.


79% of what?


79% of what?  The high bitcoin price $1,200 to $250 = 79% decrease


I explained above why a loss (or gain) in bitcoin relative to the locked currency does not imply a loss on the books for the service. (It's not complicated.) For some reason you're still pretending that a 79% loss in the price of bitcoin relative to the USD implies the service provider has a 79% loss on the books. Now the question is: what is your motive in pretending that?

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Now back to my original problem with bitcoin volatility.   




I Love Bitcoin’s Volatility

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/i-love-bitcoins-volatility/
Bitcoin is supposed to be a currency not a stock.

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January 25, 2015, 12:57:48 PM
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I explained above why a loss (or gain) in bitcoin relative to the locked currency does not imply a loss on the books for the service. (It's not complicated.) For some reason you're still pretending that a 79% loss in the price of bitcoin relative to the USD implies the service provider has a 79% loss on the books. Now the question is: what is your motive in pretending that?

Maybe I'm wrong about it not being complicated. Buying and selling BTC to account for locks without speculating on the price seems obvious to me.

Maybe the obvious way most people would implement locks is something like: "I got a great idea! I'll take someone's bitcoin and give them an IOU for $250 worth of bitcoin. Then I'll hope the price goes up so I can pay them back and make a profit!"

The second way sounds, well, I'm tempted to say retarded, but that's just too insulting to retarded people. I seriously think most retarded people could see the second way is a bad business plan.

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Just because the price is going down? Many stocks go down then recover especially when they are stocks of a new high tech company. Bitcoin is still in business!
Bitcoin is supposed to be a currency not a stock.

Its both. Wait for it.
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79% of what?  The high bitcoin price $1,200 to $250 = 79% decrease

That's the price decrease, not company's loss.
Trent Russell already answered that but you ignored it.

I didn't declare them insolvent, I just don't trust any company offering a guaranteed BTC to $ return especially when you read the TOS.

No one asks you to trust them. Again, if you're concerned about their model you should ask them to clarify in the first place. Did you bother to do it?

I had a roommate from Panama that said that for enough $$$$ you could essentially do what ever you wanted as long as the right people were paid off.

That could be applied to any country, the definition of "enough $$$$" will vary tho.
Still, Panama being corrupted doesn't mean every business registered there is automatically a fraud.

Now back to my original problem with bitcoin volatility.   

To be widely accepted, bitcoin needs to settle down. People want their currency value to remain fairly stable, not fluctuate wildly like a commodity stock.  Imagine if your paycheck was paid only in bitcoins and you would gain or loose 35% of it's value week to week.  Currently you still have to convert to fiat $ to pay bills.  Would your utility company, landlord or mortgage company deal with +/- 35% weekly value fluctuations?   Would you be able to pay your rent, mortgage, car & health insurance or buy groceries? Sorry kids, we don't eat this week:(


Price averaging. Your kids will eat in " -35% week" if you saved a surplus from "+35% week".

Volatility is inevitable in the early stages. What do you suggest? Pegging it to USD?