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July 13, 2012, 02:54:18 AM
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sounds to me like he could be struggling with this his whole life
He needs help, not locked away.

are you sure theirs nothing else making the situation worst?
abusive husband?
traumatic experience?







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July 13, 2012, 03:03:32 AM
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sounds to me like he could be struggling with this his whole life
He needs help, not locked away.

are you sure theirs nothing else making the situation worst?
abusive husband?
traumatic experience?

He is autistic with A.D.D. And from not to long ago the tumor that was removed, he ktp throwing up , my sister took him to the hospital and the hospital found the tumor, how ever they do that. Cat scan?

It's very bad. all of it. Poor thing, it's a sin what he's going through.
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July 13, 2012, 03:09:42 AM
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A lot of children are going through a lot of bad stuff, its a sin for any child to go through any of it. Cancer, tumors, diabetes, lip problem etc, list just goes on and on.

The stuff gets worse every 10 years.
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July 13, 2012, 03:13:38 AM
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sounds to me like he could be struggling with this his whole life
He needs help, not locked away.

are you sure theirs nothing else making the situation worst?
abusive husband?
traumatic experience?

He is autistic with A.D.D.

yes their appears to be an epidemic of this ATM.

is he vaccinated?
I am against vaccinating, because i believe it can cause these kinds of problems ( and many other unknown issues )
I wish i could of not vaccinated my kid, but my wife is unreasonable when it comes to listing to doctors.

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July 13, 2012, 03:24:17 AM
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sounds to me like he could be struggling with this his whole life
He needs help, not locked away.

are you sure theirs nothing else making the situation worst?
abusive husband?
traumatic experience?

He is autistic with A.D.D.

yes their appears to be an epidemic of this ATM.

is he vaccinated?
I am against vaccinating, because i believe it can cause these kinds of problems ( and many other unknown issues )
I wish i could of not vaccinated my kid, but my wife is unreasonable when it comes to listing to doctors.

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You're right about that, I just posted right above your post saying the stuff gets worse every ten years.

I don't know if he had been or not.
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July 13, 2012, 08:45:17 AM
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Now my pops went into the hospital few hours ago in an ambulance for heart congestive failure, he has water built up in the longs and bottom of his body they gave him a shot to make him urinate, a couple potassium pills, the shot gets the water out of the lungs and body where it is bloated, but the shot, also steals all the potassium out, tis the reason for the potassium pills. Scared the the out of me, but everything is all good, docs are taking well care of him now. I hate this week actually.

Very bad week. meh.

I'm going to see him tomorrow.
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July 13, 2012, 08:58:20 AM
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Now my pops went into the hospital few hours ago in an ambulance for heart congestive failure, he has water built up in the longs and bottom of his body they gave him a shot to make him urinate, a couple potassium pills, the shot gets the water out of the lungs and body where it is bloated, but the shot, also steals all the potassium out, tis the reason for the potassium pills. Scared the the out of me, but everything is all good, docs are taking well care of him now. I hate this week actually.

Very bad week. meh.

I'm going to see him tomorrow.

I'm really sorry to hear that and I really hope everything is going to be OK, you have to find inner strength to go through this hard times. Remember, it's always sunny after the rain... You have my best wishes for you and your family...
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July 13, 2012, 09:29:18 AM
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sounds to me like he could be struggling with this his whole life
He needs help, not locked away.

are you sure theirs nothing else making the situation worst?
abusive husband?
traumatic experience?

He is autistic with A.D.D. And from not to long ago the tumor that was removed, he ktp throwing up , my sister took him to the hospital and the hospital found the tumor, how ever they do that. Cat scan?

It's very bad. all of it. Poor thing, it's a sin what he's going through.

If he had a brain tumour they would have performed an MRI or CAT to find it and then surgically removed it - but any brain tumour being removed will have the side effect of removing some healthy tissue, there may even be neural circuits inside the tumour that were still being used. In a young brain, especially a nontypical brain (autism+ADD), the potential problems are multiplied.

There is some good news though - young brains are more neuroplastic, meaning they can more easily rewire themselves and self-repair with the right support under the expert care of a neurologist and psychiatrist - this is what is needed, not cannabis.

Best approach is this:
  • Professional support from both a neurologist and psychiatrist
    I can't stress this enough - and they need to work closely together to best help, the good news here is that there should already be a consultant on his case due to the recent surgery, I would ask them for referral to a good psychiatrist for outpatient treatment
  • Avoid unprescribed psychoactive substances
    This would include cannabis but also includes things such as caffeine or even certain antihistamines (allergy pills) - it's best to mess with his neurochemistry as little as possible, especially with any substance that carries a risk of addiction or psychosis - this ties in heavily with the above
  • Maximise sensory input of a tolerable nature
    Emphasis on tolerable - i'm autistic myself (aspergers) and know just how nightmarish sensory overload can be, for a child it must be even worse so I urge you to avoid risking sensory overload, at the same time you need to provide a stimulating environment to help encourage growth and repair
  • Diet
    Make sure the diet is high in protein and omega 3 in order to give the raw fuel needed to encourage neurogenesis (growth of new neurons) - there's tons of evidence on omega3 in particular being incredibly safe and effective for behavioural issues in children too, find one of those children's orange flavour chewy supplements and give it daily
  • Exercise - but not forced
    Running especially helps production of endorphins and can make anyone better able to cope with stress - but only if it isn't forced, any kind of cardio which isn't forced could be beneficial here so long as it's fun

As you've mentioned autism, here's a few "treatments" and organisations to avoid like the plague:
Autism speaks
Defeat autism now
Generation rescue
Chelation
MB12 shots
ABA

I would also caution against ritalin or any of the other older ADD meds - ask the psychiatrist about atomoxetine and other atypical ADD medications - the older stimulant based medications while effective are known to cause memory problems later in life while the newer ones do not. Don't cut off any meds suddenly that are already prescribed though, ask the psychiatrist first.
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July 13, 2012, 09:31:13 AM
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sounds to me like he could be struggling with this his whole life
He needs help, not locked away.

are you sure theirs nothing else making the situation worst?
abusive husband?
traumatic experience?

He is autistic with A.D.D.

yes their appears to be an epidemic of this ATM.

is he vaccinated?
I am against vaccinating, because i believe it can cause these kinds of problems ( and many other unknown issues )
I wish i could of not vaccinated my kid, but my wife is unreasonable when it comes to listing to doctors.

 Undecided


If your wife chose to vaccinate your child and you did not, your wife took the decision to listen to the actual science and protect your child from a preventable disease.
The vaccination theory started by andrew wakefield has been completely and utterly debunked by now, so there's really no excuse for not vaccinating.
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July 13, 2012, 10:26:49 AM
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I'm really sorry to hear that and I really hope everything is going to be OK, you have to find inner strength to go through this hard times. Remember, it's always sunny after the rain... You have my best wishes for you and your family...

Why, thank you, AS, I appreciate the support. I sure will. It's a lot, just wow, I ask myself today when I found out he went to the hospital, I was like , "*** is going on" nodding my head looking for answers, none came about.

If he had a brain tumour they would have performed an MRI or CAT to find it and then surgically removed it - but any brain tumour being removed will have the side effect of removing some healthy tissue, there may even be neural circuits inside the tumour that were still being used. In a young brain, especially a nontypical brain (autism+ADD), the potential problems are multiplied.

There is some good news though - young brains are more neuroplastic, meaning they can more easily rewire themselves and self-repair with the right support under the expert care of a neurologist and psychiatrist - this is what is needed, not cannabis.

Best approach is this:
  • Professional support from both a neurologist and psychiatrist
    I can't stress this enough - and they need to work closely together to best help, the good news here is that there should already be a consultant on his case due to the recent surgery, I would ask them for referral to a good psychiatrist for outpatient treatment
  • Avoid unprescribed psychoactive substances
    This would include cannabis but also includes things such as caffeine or even certain antihistamines (allergy pills) - it's best to mess with his neurochemistry as little as possible, especially with any substance that carries a risk of addiction or psychosis - this ties in heavily with the above
  • Maximise sensory input of a tolerable nature
    Emphasis on tolerable - i'm autistic myself (aspergers) and know just how nightmarish sensory overload can be, for a child it must be even worse so I urge you to avoid risking sensory overload, at the same time you need to provide a stimulating environment to help encourage growth and repair
  • Diet
    Make sure the diet is high in protein and omega 3 in order to give the raw fuel needed to encourage neurogenesis (growth of new neurons) - there's tons of evidence on omega3 in particular being incredibly safe and effective for behavioural issues in children too, find one of those children's orange flavour chewy supplements and give it daily
  • Exercise - but not forced
    Running especially helps production of endorphins and can make anyone better able to cope with stress - but only if it isn't forced, any kind of cardio which isn't forced could be beneficial here so long as it's fun

As you've mentioned autism, here's a few "treatments" and organisations to avoid like the plague:
Autism speaks
Defeat autism now
Generation rescue
Chelation
MB12 shots
ABA

I would also caution against ritalin or any of the other older ADD meds - ask the psychiatrist about atomoxetine and other atypical ADD medications - the older stimulant based medications while effective are known to cause memory problems later in life while the newer ones do not. Don't cut off any meds suddenly that are already prescribed though, ask the psychiatrist first.

Gareth (BitInstant), Wow, very pleasant and harsh to know info at the same time. Sound like a doctor.

Yes, the 16 doctors or so that were at the surgery [I think 16 or so, but could have been between 13 and 20] had, had drilled into his skull and did what they needed to do. And that is bad news, I had not known this that when performing this surgery it removed important tissue, but as you explained, lots of protein, etc, at a  young age will help build it back up by itself, that there is great news to hear that there is very much hope for him, as though I still have very much hope for him as he is my kin as anyone else would.

It's a lot of info to absorb that you wonderfully successfully wrote, I am astonished by it. It is another print out that I will print out many and pass it along to my family members. Everything you have wrote is fantastic. I really appreciate it Gareth. Oh god, the ridilin, by all means never give to anyone as you said, it was given to me in the late 80's, early 90's, and that shows a lot for myself as an example to never give you child ridilin, coffee, pop etc. With all this info, it's quite amazing and sad at the same time. Thank you, for your time for typing this up.
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July 13, 2012, 10:29:54 AM
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No problem, looking out for fellow autistics is something i've been doing actively for years
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July 13, 2012, 10:32:00 AM
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I was a pretty bad kid,,,, My parents had me on ritalin for a very short while... They did not like what it turned me in to..... Seemed to make my behavior worse.... The doctors my parents brought me to wanted to feed me all sorts of different drugs....


My parents were not up for me being their guinea pig.....15 years down the line, now im the good kid and my brother is the bum souping off my parents @ 30 years old Tongue
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July 13, 2012, 10:40:22 AM
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I was a pretty bad kid,,,, My parents had me on ritalin for a very short while... They did not like what it turned me in to..... Seemed to make my behavior worse.... The doctors my parents brought me to wanted to feed me all sorts of different drugs....


My parents were not up for me being their guinea pig.....15 years down the line, now im the good kid and my brother is the bum souping off my parents @ 30 years old Tongue

To be clear, there are appropriate uses for psychiatric meds, but greater care needs to be taken with developing brains and some are known for causing later problems - as with all medicine it's a tradeoff between therapeutic effects and side effects.
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July 13, 2012, 10:45:39 AM
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^ just like any drug..... Pain pills to meds for diabetis...... Is it worth taking to have these side affects? It also depends on the individual.....



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July 13, 2012, 09:51:07 PM
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yes their appears to be an epidemic of this ATM.

is he vaccinated?
I am against vaccinating, because i believe it can cause these kinds of problems ( and many other unknown issues )
I wish i could of not vaccinated my kid, but my wife is unreasonable when it comes to listing to doctors.

 Undecided


If your wife chose to vaccinate your child and you did not, your wife took the decision to listen to the actual science and protect your child from a preventable disease.
The vaccination theory started by andrew wakefield has been completely and utterly debunked by now, so there's really no excuse for not vaccinating.
+1 to what Gareth said. Your wife is a clever and smart woman, she cares about her kid. Not vaccinating him is ridicolous, i can't believe in 2012 there are people who are against vaccinating. We are no more in middle age!

and about the "ADD epidemy"...

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I was a pretty bad kid,,,, My parents had me on ritalin for a very short while... They did not like what it turned me in to..... Seemed to make my behavior worse.... The doctors my parents brought me to wanted to feed me all sorts of different drugs....


My parents were not up for me being their guinea pig.....15 years down the line, now im the good kid and my brother is the bum souping off my parents @ 30 years old Tongue

Nah you were a normal kid. Giving you drugs was a crazy thing.

It seems that in USA parents no more want to take care of their kids and to stop them from interrupting them, ta-dah, things like ADD and Ritalin get epidemic
Tons of children wich are perfectly normal suddenly are "diagnosticated" with ADD and guess what? Must take ritalin!

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July 13, 2012, 11:17:53 PM
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sounds to me like he could be struggling with this his whole life
He needs help, not locked away.

are you sure theirs nothing else making the situation worst?
abusive husband?
traumatic experience?

He is autistic with A.D.D.

yes their appears to be an epidemic of this ATM.

is he vaccinated?
I am against vaccinating, because i believe it can cause these kinds of problems ( and many other unknown issues )
I wish i could of not vaccinated my kid, but my wife is unreasonable when it comes to listing to doctors.

 Undecided


If your wife chose to vaccinate your child and you did not, your wife took the decision to listen to the actual science and protect your child from a preventable disease.
The vaccination theory started by andrew wakefield has been completely and utterly debunked by now, so there's really no excuse for not vaccinating.

wtv man its all BS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Hw-Q23S_s

in any case whats the point, the flue isn't deadly....


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July 13, 2012, 11:20:55 PM
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21917556
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(10)60175-4/fulltext
http://www.quackwatch.com/03HealthPromotion/immu/autism.html
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July 13, 2012, 11:21:37 PM
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i can hit you with a ton of link that would support my side as well...

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July 13, 2012, 11:24:31 PM
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fine two can play at this game

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/05/19/us-government-concedes-hep-b-vaccine-causes-systemic-lupus-erythematosus.aspx

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July 13, 2012, 11:24:38 PM
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You could give a bunch of links - would they be good science or just more conspiracy theories about vaccines?
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