Block Erupter Prisma2.0 Auction: Round One

[friedcat]

Block Erupter Prisma2.0 (Prisma) is a major revise over the original Block Erupter Prisma (old Prisma). The 500-Prismas-scale stress testing showed that the devices are running stable without unstability/overheat from which some of the old Prismas suffer. Protection against violent shipping is also added.

Spec and Manual
The specification is similar to the old Prisma, but there are some form factor changes:

size: 36.7cm x 16.4cm x 16.4cm
weight: 7.5kg
hashrate: 1.35TH/s to 1.48TH/s (depending on PSU output voltage and clocking)
power: 1.05kW to 1.25kW (depending on PSU output voltage and clocking)
clock: 230MHz to 260MHz (ranging from 11.5V to 12.5V of different PSU output voltage with full load)

Prisma:


User Guide:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B11fvFT7Sd5bWkc5R2Joek9LNjg/view?usp=sharing

Auction Rules
starting unit price: 0.3BTC
minimum unit price bidding increase: 0.01BTC
minimum quantity: 20
total quantity: 200
ending time:

To bid, please reply with the format:

(qty)@(unit price)

For example, if A bids 200@0.2, and B bids 50@0.3, then after the auction ends, A needs to pay 0.2 each for 200-50=150 Prismas, and B needs to pay 0.3 each for 50 Prismas.

After the bidding ends, the winners will be listed. Each winner will be PM'ed with a Bitcoin payment address by forum id Phasebird. If some of the winners do not fulfill the payment request within 24 hours after the PM, the winner list will be renewed by deleting the winners who do not pay and shifting the rest bidders upwards. Then the new winners will also be PM'ed with Bitcoin payment addresses and required to pay within 24 hours after the PM. This process continues until all the Prismas are paid, or the winner list is exhausted.

Shipping, Extra Details and Customer Service
Shipping will be done within 48 hours after payment. Shipping fee is already covered in the price.
Shipping to US is via UPS or DHL by default.
Shipping to EU and other places is via DHL by default.
Please reply the payment request PM with what price you want us to declare, and what shipping
company you would like to choose if you do not like the default choices.

For every 20 Prismas, 5 ethernet controllers and 1 redundant Prisma will be provided. If you need more controllers, please pay 0.069BTC more for each. If you need less controllers, please pay 0.069BTC less for each.

If the number of defected boards is higher than the number of boards on the redundant Prismas, please contact Phasebird by PM or help@bitquan.com by e-mail for shipping back details. We cover free replacement within 180 days after receiving based on records from the shipping company.

Happy bidding!

[1715543988]

1715543988

[1715543988]

1715543988

[friedcat]

starting unit price: 0.3BTC
minimum unit price bidding increase: 0.01BTC
minimum quantity: 20
total quantity: 200
ending time: 08:00:00 AM, January 15, 2015

[friedcat]

starting unit price: 0.3BTC
minimum unit price bidding increase: 0.01BTC
minimum quantity: 20
total quantity: 200
ending time: 08:00:00 AM, January 25, 2015

[friedcat]

The ending time is 08:00:00 AM, January 25, 2015.

Please help edit the main thread or delete my first and second replies.

[LordPaco]

Time to get this party started!? 

I'll start at 50 @ .30

[tvasbn]

20@0.3

[suchmoon]

FC, are the boards compatible with the V1 frames and if so will you be offering upgrade boards (and perhaps those protective covers too).

Sorry if this is off-topic, I don't see a V2 thread in the Hardware forum.

[Mariowot]

20@0.3

[stan.distortion]

The ending time is 08:00:00 AM, January 25, 2015.

Please help edit the main thread or delete my first and second replies.

8AM GMT?

[stan.distortion]

The ending time is 08:00:00 AM, January 25, 2015.

Please help edit the main thread or delete my first and second replies.

8AM GMT?

EDIT: 90@ 0.3 so far.

[CrazyGuy]

40@.3

[tvasbn]

All sold, move along, nothing to see here

[MrTeal]

Do these use the new PMS01 chip?

[teek]

Do these use the new PMS01 chip?

yes

[teek]

FC, are the boards compatible with the V1 frames

no

[Finksy]

20@0.3

Also, if anyone is looking for PSU options for these, PM me.  I have an excellent, cost-effective & efficient solution for you.  I will be starting a thread on it when I get back from holidays in a week and a bit.

[stan.distortion]

150@0.3 unless tvasbn plans on buying the lot for an undisclosed sum

[Finksy]

Sorry, change my bid to 20 @ 0.31 each

[stan.distortion]

Sry, that was misleading, was keeping totals.

LordPaco 50@0.3
tvasbn 20@0.3
Mariowot 20@0.3
CrazyGuy 40@0.3
Finksy 20@0.3

Total 150@0.3

[Sakarias-Corporation]

1 @ 1.2 !

[Finksy]

1 @ 1.2 !

MOQ is 20, includes shipping, and there are still 50 unspoken for at minimum bid price of 0.3 each.

[HarmonLi]

1 @ 1.2 !

MOQ is 20, includes shipping, and there are still 50 unspoken for at minimum bid price of 0.3 each.

Pssssshhh! He/she just tried to push the price up a bit! I know, right now the bid basically translates to paying more-than-needed for a miner, but hey, maybe they want to support AM

[SockPuppetAccount]

20@0.3

[mavericklm]

If the number of defected boards is higher than the number of boards on the redundant Prismas, please contact Phasebird

Why reminding us of the fire hazard?!?!?!

[lightlord]

21@0.31

[MilkyLep]

I'll take those leftover 9 at .3BTC if nobody wants them 

[friedcat]

The ending time is 08:00:00 AM, January 25, 2015.

Please help edit the main thread or delete my first and second replies.

8AM GMT?

Yes. Same as the forum time.
So only about 24 hours left.

[friedcat]

The ending time is 08:00:00 AM, January 25, 2015.

Please help edit the main thread or delete my first and second replies.

8AM GMT?

Yes. Same as the forum time.
So only about 24 hours left.

Sorry, 25 hours.

Anyway it's GMT, the same as the time shown in upper-right corner of the forum webpage.

[coinmars.com]

can it ship to china?
any VAT need to be paid?

[littlefish]

60@0.35

[nangong]

80@0.32

[HarmonLi]

can it ship to china?
any VAT need to be paid?

I believe it actually even ships from China, so even better! I think VAT is already included, but can't speak for AM/Friedcat! Gotta say, looks like a very solid miner! BTW, BE300 still on track? We'd love a short heads-up!

[coinmars.com]

20@0.32

[xhomerx10]

The ending time is 08:00:00 AM, January 25, 2015.

Please help edit the main thread or delete my first and second replies.

8AM GMT?

Yes. Same as the forum time.
So only about 24 hours left.

Sorry, 25 hours.

Anyway it's GMT, the same as the time shown in upper-right corner of the forum webpage.

 Upper right corner of forum page is user configurable.  It's best to simply say GMT.

[coinmars.com]

20@0.32

[coinmars.com]

Beware!A user firedcat was pmed me.
It said i got the bid and pay the BTC
Be careful.

[tvasbn]

20@0.32

[klondike_bar]

anyone in the Toronto, Ontario area want to split an order?

[MichaelBliss]

Was the user "Friedcat" spelled the right way etc?  You should be able to click on their name and verify if it's the real Friedcat.  I do recall somebody impersonating CanaryInTheMine at one point, in order to scam.   Is that what happened?

[markj113]

Beware!A user firedcat was pmed me.
It said i got the bid and pay the BTC
Be careful.

firedcat lol

[Sakarias-Corporation]

anyone in EU wanna split ?

[MichaelBliss]

Beware!A user firedcat was pmed me.
It said i got the bid and pay the BTC
Be careful.

firedcat lol

Let's all negative rep the imposter in that case!  Before they successfully scam someone!

[nangong]

100@0.33

[CanaryInTheMine]

Beware!A user firedcat was pmed me.
It said i got the bid and pay the BTC
Be careful.

Plz post pm using quote feature so that we can deal with scammers. Ty!

[coinmars.com]

Beware!A user firedcat was pmed me.
It said i got the bid and pay the BTC
Be careful.

Plz post pm using quote feature so that we can deal with scammers. Ty!

here is the image:http://holland.pk/ifm5sw8j

[coinmars.com]

40@0.33

[lightlord]

22 @ 0.34

[Mariowot]

30@34

[SockPuppetAccount]

20 @ 0.36

[CrazyGuy]

40@.37

[lightlord]

25 @ 0.35

[littlefish]

40@0.4

[coinchinanet]

20@0.41

[pkuphy]

50@0.42

[littlefish]

60 @ 0.45

[pkuphy]

change my bid from 50@0.42 to 50@0.46

[friedcat]

Beware!A user firedcat was pmed me.
It said i got the bid and pay the BTC
Be careful.

Plz post pm using quote feature so that we can deal with scammers. Ty!

here is the image:http://holland.pk/ifm5sw8j

Beware!

The PM should be received from Phasebird.

[lightlord]

20 @ 0.38

[david500834]

80 @0.47

[lookgame]

100@0.48

[coinmars.com]

40@0.4

[pkuphy]

Change my order to 50 @0.50

[david500834]

80@0.49  i'm in shandong ,whether baoyou?

[2bank]

80@0.5

[BaozouBear]

hi guys！it‘s my first replay on talk~
100@0.51

[coinchinanet]

100@0.51

[LordPaco]

60 @ .52 YUUUUUUUP!!!

[pkuphy]

100 @ 0.6

Price below 1btc is okay for me

[dance191]

20 @ 0.42

[2bank]

100@0.7

[coinchinanet]

100@0.78

[snoopy999666]

20@0.71

[BaozouBear]

@pkuphy
hi bro，let’s stick to the rules
I'll take 50@0.53BTC

[nangong]

100 @ 0.8

[pkuphy]

100 @ 0.80

[coinchinanet]

150@0.9

[Mariowot]

20@54

its cool how todays registered accounts are bumping the price ;]

[nangong]

100@0.94

[coinchinanet]

160@1.1

[lightlord]

22 @ 0.43

[snoopy999666]

50@0.93

[coinmars.com]

20@0.44

[lookgame]

20@0.7

[pkuphy]

100 @ 1.0

[nangong]

40@0.8

[david500834]

40@0.81

[friedcat]

The auction ends.

Phasebird will reply with winners and PM them with payment addresses.

If you did not win, please also stay tuned for the PM, because if some winners do not pay,
the winner list will be adjusted.

[Phasebird]

Block Erupter Prisma2.0 Auction: Round One
Final result:
ID   :coinchinanet
NUM  :160
PRICE:1.1 BTC
TATAL:176 BTC

ID   :pkuphy
NUM  :40
PRICE:1   BTC
TATAL:40  BTC

[jdany]

Did this auction get all jacked up with a bunch of newbie bids?
If they're legit, do they know something I don't?

[Kipsy89]

Did this auction get all jacked up with a bunch of newbie bids?
If they're legit, do they know something I don't?

It's a bit strange, yeah. I wonder who would push the price that way. I don't hope AM as an honest company has to do such things! Well it's some nice pocket money for AM, while getting old inventory off the shelves. Both very good things for gen 4!

[LordPaco]

I just received a PM from 'freidcat' saying I won my lot of 60 @ .52. I got pretty excited until I went to reply to the PM and looked at the same. Watch out for scammers guys.

[server]

Did this auction get all jacked up with a bunch of newbie bids?
If they're legit, do they know something I don't?

All fake accounts made today.

[markj113]

perhaps admin should dig around a little to see if they have the same i.p

Very suspicious

[Blazed]

So newbies registered to over pay for some gear..seems legit.

[markj113]

Monitor all the newbie accounts, if they all go dead we can assume its a scam and neg feedback the the op.

[klondike_bar]

Block Erupter Prisma2.0 Auction: Round One
Final result:
ID   :coinchinanet
NUM  :160
PRICE:1.1 BTC
TATAL:176 BTC

ID   :pkuphy
NUM  :40
PRICE:1   BTC
TATAL:40  BTC

both those users are <10 posts and its really suspicious.

seriously, I was planning to bid but my absolute highest bid was going to be about 0.5BTC per unit considering the past technical dificulties and ~0.8w/gh efficiency. in comparison, the SP20 has better efficiency even at 1.5x the hashrate, and is only ~1.5btc/each

this strikes me as shady

[klondike_bar]

looking back at the bid the only "legitimate" ones i see are:

22 @ 0.43

1176 posts, legendary member

20@54
its cool how todays registered accounts are bumping the price ;]

252 posts, Sr. member

20 @ 0.42

118 posts, member (Ive dealt with him and he is legit)

60 @ .52 YUUUUUUUP!!!

67 posts, member

and some bids by nangong up to 0.8/ea


Most of the bids are by users with <10 posts, and pkuphy registered today, bid over 1.0btc/prisma (which as i mentioned is ludicrous since you get get 1.5x the hashrate out of the SP20 with an order as small as 3 units and they are far more reliable - and a 15pack is even 10% cheaper)

Im interested to know how a brand new forum account will have access to 40BTC, but i guess that's phasebirds problem now. this auction was a shame - I have my doubts that the winners plan to pay

[CanaryInTheMine]

I just received a PM from 'freidcat' saying I won my lot of 60 @ .52. I got pretty excited until I went to reply to the PM and looked at the same. Watch out for scammers guys.

Impostor profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=416859
I left negative feedback, please join me in exposing this scammer.
If there are other user accounts pretending to be friedcat, please post a link to their profile (not a picture) or use quote feature of your PM, it will capture the link to impostors profile.  We can add appropriate negative feedback to these scammers

[LordPaco]

My first thought was some oversea big players with some cheap to free power. Still high bid was really around .2btc off the prisma price back in October. The SP15 15pack wins hands down at that price and considering we are bidding with a minimum of 20 that's really the best comparison to use.

I might as well publicly declare it here: I'm building a .5MW farm, and these would be a nice way to get a head start on more machines. The title thread has the words 'Round One' so maybe we will see this kind of auction again. I enjoyed it for what its worth.

[klondike_bar]

My first thought was some oversea big players with some cheap to free power. Still high bid was really around .2btc off the prisma price back in October. The SP15 15pack wins hands down at that price and considering we are bidding with a minimum of 20 that's really the best comparison to use.

I might as well publicly declare it here: I'm building a .5MW farm, and these would be a nice way to get a head start on more machines. The title thread has the words 'Round One' so maybe we will see this kind of auction again. I enjoyed it for what its worth.

yeah the 15x SP20 is really the best comparison against 20x Prisma

 25TH/19kW/22.5BTC          vs      28TH/23kW/22BTC (according to the 1.1BTC/ea bid by coinchina)

a difference of 3TH/4kW/-0.5BTC  for equipment that is larger, cant underclock, and has an external ethernet controller. I dont understand whay the bid would be so high.

[dance191]

My first thought was some oversea big players with some cheap to free power. Still high bid was really around .2btc off the prisma price back in October. The SP15 15pack wins hands down at that price and considering we are bidding with a minimum of 20 that's really the best comparison to use.

I might as well publicly declare it here: I'm building a .5MW farm, and these would be a nice way to get a head start on more machines. The title thread has the words 'Round One' so maybe we will see this kind of auction again. I enjoyed it for what its worth.

yeah the 15x SP20 is really the best comparison against 20x Prisma

 25TH/19kW/22.5BTC          vs      28TH/23kW/22BTC (according to the 1.1BTC/ea bid by coinchina)

a difference of 3TH/4kW/-0.5BTC  for equipment that is larger, cant underclock, and has an external ethernet controller. I dont understand whay the bid would be so high.

I can't see any reason why the bidding would get high either.  Personally, a SP20 is worth twice what a Prisma is worth (per TH/s versus per TH/s).  The SP-20 has a huge range of efficencies, a real controller, works on any pool (I don't know if they solved that with the new controller), runs like a champ (makes even Bitmain look like junk), keeps really good resale value and lets not forget about the smoking issues of the past. 

I don't think ASICMiner did anything shady, but those bids are not real.  Maybe it is just a competitor trying to mess with them, I don't know. 

[suchmoon]

I don't think ASICMiner did anything shady, but those bids are not real.  Maybe it is just a competitor trying to mess with them, I don't know. 

What would be the reason for anyone to mess with this? Delay? Doesn't seem to matter much to AM since they should be able to sell them to the next highest bidder(s).

[mavericklm]

Shady or not, atm is not our problem!

Next time give more time, 1and half day was much too little!

[dance191]

I don't think ASICMiner did anything shady, but those bids are not real.  Maybe it is just a competitor trying to mess with them, I don't know. 

What would be the reason for anyone to mess with this? Delay? Doesn't seem to matter much to AM since they should be able to sell them to the next highest bidder(s).

Just to create all of the problems we have here (make the bidders suspect foul play, create mistrust of ASICMiner, tie up the auction for a few days waiting for the fake bidders to time out so ASICMiner then has to go down the list, maybe by the time they get to valid bidders, the valid bidders are less interested and maybe will not pay, people will be less interested in future rounds due to the problems in the first round, etc).  Overall any problems that this auction now has due to the fake bidders might be a reason to mess with. 

I am not saying it would be a good idea for someone to mess with the auction, but someone is. 

However, this is just me guessing, I don't know anything for certain. 

[dance191]

P.S.  Personally I am now out.  The BTC I had for this auction I already spent and it would take me a few days to get the 8+ BTC again. 

Things like that hurt their auction...

[tutorialevideo]

Wainting for round 2 more luck to come

[romerun]

this should be done in a distributed platform, putting collateral before bidding

[tvasbn]

phasebird will announce the users who actually paid?

[Blazed]

phasebird will announce the users who actually paid?

It is AM...you really expect an answer in a timely fashion? 

[Sine(X)]

phasebird will announce the users who actually paid?

Perhaps the first round will be replayed 

[bbxx]

i would buy some stuff but with such resolutions i am dissapointed.

[server]

The auction ends.

Phasebird will reply with winners and PM them with payment addresses.

If you did not win, please also stay tuned for the PM, because if some winners do not pay,
the winner list will be adjusted.

Quoting FC last post for preservation.

[Blazed]

The auction ends.

Phasebird will reply with winners and PM them with payment addresses.

If you did not win, please also stay tuned for the PM, because if some winners do not pay,
the winner list will be adjusted.

Quoting FC last post for preservation.

Good idea to quote scammers before they decide to login and start deleting stuff!

[CanaryInTheMine]

The auction ends.

Phasebird will reply with winners and PM them with payment addresses.

If you did not win, please also stay tuned for the PM, because if some winners do not pay,
the winner list will be adjusted.

Quoting FC last post for preservation.

Good idea to quote scammers before they decide to login and start deleting stuff!

We have seen this behavior before from others cleaning their tracks... But in this case, fc abandoned, and in my opinion, he won't touch his previous accounts not to created traces.  I think there are 2 outcomes: one, we never hear from him again, two he reappears on his own.