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ianferns
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January 24, 2015, 09:19:48 AM |
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What is the tip in this case ? Who are you tipping for the win ?
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miraclebets (OP)
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January 24, 2015, 09:21:58 AM |
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What is the tip in this case ? Who are you tipping for the win ? Both side, 1 on each website to ensure a sure 3.9% profit win. Use http://www.scalpulator.com/ to calculate your risk amount ( we will be incorporating this calculator on our site in a few days )
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adaseb
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January 24, 2015, 09:28:30 AM |
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One thing I don't understand if you are so successful and good at taking these arbitage bets, why don't you just invest with your own money.
Going on the main website makes it look like a Ponzi scheme almost
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miraclebets (OP)
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January 24, 2015, 09:36:33 AM |
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One thing I don't understand if you are so successful and good at taking these arbitage bets, why don't you just invest with your own money.
Going on the main website makes it look like a Ponzi scheme almost
Bigger modals will enable us to place multiple arbitrage bets per day, easier for us to roll as we have to exchange our funds in those sportbooks as well. Site may look like a hyip but rest assured, legitimate services are offered here. Since we are the first arbitrage betting service here, we plan to be the best. Time will tell. Till then, we will be posting free tips every now and then. Cheers.
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dicefun
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January 24, 2015, 09:45:50 AM |
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Ok, I'll test some of your tips. Then I'll think about investment. I tried to do something similar myself, but as you said bets on btc-sportbooks are almost the same.
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miraclebets (OP)
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January 24, 2015, 09:50:32 AM |
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Ok, I'll test some of your tips. Then I'll think about investment. I tried to do something similar myself, but as you said bets on btc-sportbooks are almost the same.
Yes, odds are almost the same so it would be pointless. Check out this thread and our website regularly for more tips.
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dicefun
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January 24, 2015, 10:02:15 AM |
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Ok, I'll test some of your tips. Then I'll think about investment. I tried to do something similar myself, but as you said bets on btc-sportbooks are almost the same.
Yes, odds are almost the same so it would be pointless. Check out this thread and our website regularly for more tips. BTW, you can post one tip daily in this tread and another one on your site, it would help you to attract more people. Just friendly advice 
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miraclebets (OP)
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January 24, 2015, 10:05:17 AM |
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Ok, I'll test some of your tips. Then I'll think about investment. I tried to do something similar myself, but as you said bets on btc-sportbooks are almost the same.
Yes, odds are almost the same so it would be pointless. Check out this thread and our website regularly for more tips. BTW, you can post one tip daily in this tread and another one on your site, it would help you to attract more people. Just friendly advice  There will be more then 2 tips daily on our site. Keep checking https://miraclebets.org/?a=news for random tip listings. Thank you.
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calci
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January 24, 2015, 10:41:21 AM |
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I think there is a big risk involved if people start sending you money for betting for them . Sport books are known to close account which they think are arbitrage betting, so its always a risk.
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miraclebets (OP)
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January 24, 2015, 10:45:06 AM |
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I think there is a big risk involved if people start sending you money for betting for them . Sport books are known to close account which they think are arbitrage betting, so its always a risk.
Firstly, i'm not arbitraging on the same site, it's always one bet per site. Secondly, there are a lot of sportbooks which allow arbitraging.
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dicefun
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January 24, 2015, 11:11:28 AM |
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Ok, I'll test some of your tips. Then I'll think about investment. I tried to do something similar myself, but as you said bets on btc-sportbooks are almost the same.
Yes, odds are almost the same so it would be pointless. And there is another problem with betting using btc. The odds could (and will) change several times until your payment will get 3 confirmations from blockchain. 
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calci
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January 24, 2015, 11:39:21 AM |
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I think there is a big risk involved if people start sending you money for betting for them . Sport books are known to close account which they think are arbitrage betting, so its always a risk.
Firstly, i'm not arbitraging on the same site, it's always one bet per site. Secondly, there are a lot of sportbooks which allow arbitraging. But are all the sports books in your post allow arbitrage betting ?
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miraclebets (OP)
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January 24, 2015, 11:46:48 AM |
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I think there is a big risk involved if people start sending you money for betting for them . Sport books are known to close account which they think are arbitrage betting, so its always a risk.
Firstly, i'm not arbitraging on the same site, it's always one bet per site. Secondly, there are a lot of sportbooks which allow arbitraging. But are all the sports books in your post allow arbitrage betting ? some of them do , but i don't arbitrage on the same site. as you see from my tips , i bet on two sites sometimes three for one match. it all depends on the odds.
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ranochigo
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January 24, 2015, 11:51:40 AM |
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Why don't you guys get an escrow to make those bets for you ? Because otherwise, even though you offer some payouts for a few days, it could all end up as a scam, if people have to trust you to make their bets. Correct me if I am wrong. Good luck with it.
Those bets are not made using btc, so an escrow would need to change those coins, and make bets on those sites listed which i think is pointless given the time needed to exchange and stuffs. We are sharing the opportunity here. We acquire around 10 - 15 tips per day ( sometimes more , sometimes less ), so profits will be more then sufficient to cover investors. If you don't want to invest, you can also follow the daily tips given here, so in the end everyone makes some money. Cheers. A better idea would be sending 1BTC or more to an escrow so incase you run away, investors will likely be getting their investments back. I'm curious, what if the prediction is inaccurate and the bets loses, will we get our investments back or lose it?
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miraclebets (OP)
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January 24, 2015, 11:56:42 AM |
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Why don't you guys get an escrow to make those bets for you ? Because otherwise, even though you offer some payouts for a few days, it could all end up as a scam, if people have to trust you to make their bets. Correct me if I am wrong. Good luck with it.
Those bets are not made using btc, so an escrow would need to change those coins, and make bets on those sites listed which i think is pointless given the time needed to exchange and stuffs. We are sharing the opportunity here. We acquire around 10 - 15 tips per day ( sometimes more , sometimes less ), so profits will be more then sufficient to cover investors. If you don't want to invest, you can also follow the daily tips given here, so in the end everyone makes some money. Cheers. A better idea would be sending 1BTC or more to an escrow so incase you run away, investors will likely be getting their investments back. I'm curious, what if the prediction is inaccurate and the bets loses, will we get our investments back or lose it? You can't lose an arb bet. You bet on both sides of the game, but with given odds, you make a profit no matter what. You can always use an arb bet calculator to calculate how much needed to bet on both sides. As i have already mentioned before, escrow will be pointless as with more funds in stake, more profit we make. Plus, we are not making bets with btc here, i have to change them to other e-currencies/fiat to fund my sportbooks.
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finnile
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January 24, 2015, 12:08:25 PM |
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Why don't you guys get an escrow to make those bets for you ? Because otherwise, even though you offer some payouts for a few days, it could all end up as a scam, if people have to trust you to make their bets. Correct me if I am wrong. Good luck with it.
Those bets are not made using btc, so an escrow would need to change those coins, and make bets on those sites listed which i think is pointless given the time needed to exchange and stuffs. We are sharing the opportunity here. We acquire around 10 - 15 tips per day ( sometimes more , sometimes less ), so profits will be more then sufficient to cover investors. If you don't want to invest, you can also follow the daily tips given here, so in the end everyone makes some money. Cheers. A better idea would be sending 1BTC or more to an escrow so incase you run away, investors will likely be getting their investments back. I'm curious, what if the prediction is inaccurate and the bets loses, will we get our investments back or lose it? For an arbitrage bet that can be argued , the reason he is crowndfunding the bets is to get a bigger bankroll to have a biigger profit, as its only 3%. Since its a gtd profit(apart from the risk of him running with the money) , there is no reason for him to escrow the amount, as he could instead just bet it himself.
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finnile
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January 24, 2015, 12:09:54 PM |
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Expected plans in the nearing week : i) escrowed signature campaign ii) introduction on new plans ( depending on public demand ) iii) live matches that current bets are running on and real time profit viewing iv) arbitrage calculator
Those who register now till the 25th of January will receive a 20% bonus on their deposits.
*deposit rates will follow the current rates on blockchain.info* *please save transaction details on site when deposit is made* *deposits are processed after 6 confirmations*
Whats the business model for you guys to earn money from it ? Are you charging a commission ?
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miraclebets (OP)
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January 24, 2015, 12:11:04 PM |
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Why don't you guys get an escrow to make those bets for you ? Because otherwise, even though you offer some payouts for a few days, it could all end up as a scam, if people have to trust you to make their bets. Correct me if I am wrong. Good luck with it.
Those bets are not made using btc, so an escrow would need to change those coins, and make bets on those sites listed which i think is pointless given the time needed to exchange and stuffs. We are sharing the opportunity here. We acquire around 10 - 15 tips per day ( sometimes more , sometimes less ), so profits will be more then sufficient to cover investors. If you don't want to invest, you can also follow the daily tips given here, so in the end everyone makes some money. Cheers. A better idea would be sending 1BTC or more to an escrow so incase you run away, investors will likely be getting their investments back. I'm curious, what if the prediction is inaccurate and the bets loses, will we get our investments back or lose it? For an arbitrage bet that can be argued , the reason he is crowndfunding the bets is to get a bigger bankroll to have a biigger profit, as its only 3%. Since its a gtd profit(apart from the risk of him running with the money) , there is no reason for him to escrow the amount, as he could instead just bet it himself. Exactly, not all matches are 3% , some are even 1% but it's confirmed profit. Not to forget, odds change in time as well, so when the opportunity is there , i have to immediately make the bet.
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miraclebets (OP)
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January 24, 2015, 12:30:58 PM |
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Expected plans in the nearing week : i) escrowed signature campaign ii) introduction on new plans ( depending on public demand ) iii) live matches that current bets are running on and real time profit viewing iv) arbitrage calculator
Those who register now till the 25th of January will receive a 20% bonus on their deposits.
*deposit rates will follow the current rates on blockchain.info* *please save transaction details on site when deposit is made* *deposits are processed after 6 confirmations*
Whats the business model for you guys to earn money from it ? Are you charging a commission ? There's no fixed required modal. With more, we can make more. We have to also pay our tipsters who provide us the tips daily. As for our customers, just choose the plan you need, 1 day - 8 days plan and at the end of the period, you can request your withdrawal + profits and we will process payments (usually within 6 hours upon withdrawal request)
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