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January 28, 2015, 05:52:20 PM |
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I applaud China for keeping the Western threats out of their country.
....and what threats are that? Allowing their citizens to the mass information out on the internet? zezt you are absolutely out of your mind. We all know who is exactly threating the China people.
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manselr
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January 28, 2015, 06:08:24 PM |
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I applaud China for keeping the Western threats out of their country.
....and what threats are that? Allowing their citizens to the mass information out on the internet? I think he's being sarcastic, but don't believe me on this one, he may be an actual brickhead.
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January 28, 2015, 08:37:16 PM |
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This blocking operation basically kill most VPN services on cellphone including L2TP/PPTP/IPSec. Thank to my government , I'm have trouble in using VPN on my phone now, that on desktop works fine ,though.
I think, this would include Skype as well. Is china planning to go back to the stone age ? If you are from India, you should know that Bitcoin is banned there too . Are you from stone age? I guess not. I am curious what the Chinese exchanges will do. 99% from their clients are from China. Their servers are outside of China. Result : NO exchanges from China, including BTC China, Ok Coin, LakeBTC, Huobi The BTC price will fall because the chineses will sell their BTC !
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January 28, 2015, 10:15:28 PM |
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Yes, it is now officially China Intranet, not Internet any more. You are too exaggerated.
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January 28, 2015, 10:41:33 PM |
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This blocking operation basically kill most VPN services on cellphone including L2TP/PPTP/IPSec. Thank to my government , I'm have trouble in using VPN on my phone now, that on desktop works fine ,though.
I think, this would include Skype as well. Is china planning to go back to the stone age ? If you are from India, you should know that Bitcoin is banned there too . Are you from stone age? I guess not. I am curious what the Chinese exchanges will do. 99% from their clients are from China. Their servers are outside of China. Result : NO exchanges from China, including BTC China, Ok Coin, LakeBTC, Huobi The BTC price will fall because the chineses will sell their BTC !Really ? Show me an authentic link that says bitcoin is banned in India. We are having many interesting startups on Bitcoin. Our central bank governor indicated that Bitcoin might be the future : India's Central Bank Could One Day Use Digital Currency, Chief Says.
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January 28, 2015, 11:04:25 PM |
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Did China really blocked Google ? what Search engine does chinese people use then Anyway , I don't think that you could much if VPN's are blocked , but you can try to buy a cheap VPS and use it to connect to bitcointalk? There are other search engines, for example, Bing. RDP is certainly possible to use in China. Last time I went there, I used shadowsocks with AES 256 encryption on my phone. For my computer I used VPN.ac. Tor isn't a good idea as most of the bridges would get block immediately/within a few hours.
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January 28, 2015, 11:12:05 PM |
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China will ban all VPS. it is clear. The Bitcoin users from China won't be able to trade without VPS . Without trading, the chinese exchanges will close the business.
let's not forget that Russia banned bitcoin this year as well.
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January 29, 2015, 02:37:01 AM |
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Personally, I could only access bitcointalk via VPN. If that's killed too, any other options?
I'd try Tor via a bridge. tor bridges already banned by gov for several years , only meek method works now .
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mayax
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January 29, 2015, 02:38:21 AM |
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Personally, I could only access bitcointalk via VPN. If that's killed too, any other options?
I'd try Tor via a bridge. tor bridges already banned by gov for several years , only meek method works now . it will be too hard for the chinesse bitcoin traders to be online. as trader you need a very good internet connection. the "meek methods" may not be stable, fast
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January 29, 2015, 04:39:51 AM |
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They can't block all vpn service, they can only do that if they blocked all encrypted transmission. You can buy a vps that is based outside china and connect to it using a teamviewer.
No, they generally cannot even block all encrypted transmissions. The fact that there are various protocols to transmit data, they likely cannot even tell when data is being transmitted in an encrypted fashion or not
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January 29, 2015, 07:11:44 AM |
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call it what you want vpn tor p2p ip2 etc.. you cant block communication as it can evolve via encrypted channels to look like something it isnt. regular encrypted channels can be used to connect to places you shouldnt be allowed to
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January 29, 2015, 08:24:42 AM |
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They would just make average Joe more difficult to access outside world, the experts will always find a way as long as encrypted package can be sent
Actually the higher level officers need access to outside internet to get some insider government info which they seldom can acquire domestically
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January 29, 2015, 12:20:33 PM |
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Are they really blocked all VPN service ? Maybe they just able to block free/cheap VPN only Now, people in china are trying to search new way to access blocked website like use premium VPN/Tor Browser Yes they blocked mostly free vpns and some popular vpn that are regularly being used in China. But still other premium vpn services working fine in China. This is very important to take a serious VPN provider. Not only for Chinese people which needs to bypass censorship but for all people who wants to protect their privacy.
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mayax
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January 29, 2015, 03:03:15 PM |
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They would just make average Joe more difficult to access outside world, the experts will always find a way as long as encrypted package can be sent
Actually the higher level officers need access to outside internet to get some insider government info which they seldom can acquire domestically
good remark. average "Joe" won't bother to find ways to access XxX.com. he will see that it doesn't work and he will find other "games" to play in... also, it will be very hard for the BTC traders (this is a BTC forum so it's about bitcoin) to access the exchange websites which are outside from China. What will be the result ?
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January 30, 2015, 05:11:42 AM |
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If it's really necessary, I can offer free ssh tunnels for reputable members. Are they really blocked all VPN service ? Maybe they just able to block free/cheap VPN only Now, people in china are trying to search new way to access blocked website like use premium VPN/Tor Browser Yes they blocked mostly free vpns and some popular vpn that are regularly being used in China. But still other premium vpn services working fine in China. This is very important to take a serious VPN provider. Not only for Chinese people which needs to bypass censorship but for all people who wants to protect their privacy. bestvpnservice.comseems legit
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January 30, 2015, 06:47:05 PM |
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If it's really necessary, I can offer free ssh tunnels for reputable members. Are they really blocked all VPN service ? Maybe they just able to block free/cheap VPN only Now, people in china are trying to search new way to access blocked website like use premium VPN/Tor Browser Yes they blocked mostly free vpns and some popular vpn that are regularly being used in China. But still other premium vpn services working fine in China. This is very important to take a serious VPN provider. Not only for Chinese people which needs to bypass censorship but for all people who wants to protect their privacy. bestvpnservice.comseems legit it is a matter of time until it will be blocked... it's annoying if this is happening in the middle of a trade
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January 31, 2015, 01:19:25 AM |
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If it's really necessary, I can offer free ssh tunnels for reputable members. Are they really blocked all VPN service ? Maybe they just able to block free/cheap VPN only Now, people in china are trying to search new way to access blocked website like use premium VPN/Tor Browser Yes they blocked mostly free vpns and some popular vpn that are regularly being used in China. But still other premium vpn services working fine in China. This is very important to take a serious VPN provider. Not only for Chinese people which needs to bypass censorship but for all people who wants to protect their privacy. bestvpnservice.comseems legit it is a matter of time until it will be blocked... it's annoying if this is happening in the middle of a trade There are loads of encryption methods, it is releatively hard for the government to decipher and block them with DPI. You can just change encryption method and continue your trade. Or even better, use ssh tunnel, they won't be blocked.
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January 31, 2015, 02:40:22 AM |
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If it's really necessary, I can offer free ssh tunnels for reputable members. Are they really blocked all VPN service ? Maybe they just able to block free/cheap VPN only Now, people in china are trying to search new way to access blocked website like use premium VPN/Tor Browser Yes they blocked mostly free vpns and some popular vpn that are regularly being used in China. But still other premium vpn services working fine in China. This is very important to take a serious VPN provider. Not only for Chinese people which needs to bypass censorship but for all people who wants to protect their privacy. bestvpnservice.comseems legit it is a matter of time until it will be blocked... it's annoying if this is happening in the middle of a trade There are loads of encryption methods, it is releatively hard for the government to decipher and block them with DPI. You can just change encryption method and continue your trade. Or even better, use ssh tunnel, they won't be blocked. the normal people from China won't be interested about any ssh...
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January 31, 2015, 02:48:48 AM |
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why not try bitnet-vpncoin?.. with bitnet vpncoin can unblocking site even in protocol level and then we may access anything website
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January 31, 2015, 02:49:36 AM |
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If it's really necessary, I can offer free ssh tunnels for reputable members. Are they really blocked all VPN service ? Maybe they just able to block free/cheap VPN only Now, people in china are trying to search new way to access blocked website like use premium VPN/Tor Browser Yes they blocked mostly free vpns and some popular vpn that are regularly being used in China. But still other premium vpn services working fine in China. This is very important to take a serious VPN provider. Not only for Chinese people which needs to bypass censorship but for all people who wants to protect their privacy. bestvpnservice.comseems legit it is a matter of time until it will be blocked... it's annoying if this is happening in the middle of a trade There are loads of encryption methods, it is releatively hard for the government to decipher and block them with DPI. You can just change encryption method and continue your trade. Or even better, use ssh tunnel, they won't be blocked. the normal people from China won't be interested about any ssh... True but there are various programs to bypass the censorship, which most people in China uses. Most of the Bitcoin users are pretty techsavvy and would have some knowledge on bypassing the censorship.
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