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February 05, 2015, 12:52:26 PM
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But you changed what I said without indicating that you had done so.  Would have been nice if you'd just indicated you were making a change to what you thought.  

Hahaha, mate, I pointed out plainly I was changing the quote. FTFY = Fixed That For You. It's used to indicate someone altered a quote to make it more accurate. In this case, I was making it reflect reality. You missed the joke. The point was you're stating as fact something that isn't.

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Bigotry is a state of mind where a person strongly, obstinately, irrationally, unfairly or intolerantly dislikes other people, ideas, etc.

See, my point is they're not protesting CAIR. They don't reference CAIR in signs or speech. They are protesting a gathering of Muslims. That's why they're bigots, as evidenced by the definition you quoted.

This shows the blond lady talking, and the microphone being rudely taken away from here.
How very rude!  She didn't push or shove anyone, and they denied her freedom of speech!

The woman was not invited to speak at the podium. She is using someone else's equipment without permission, which is inherently a use of force. To the extent anyone responds to take the property that does not belong to her away, it's self defense. They didn't deny her speech, they denied her access to their property. She was perfectly free to shout her hate speech without their microphone, but she wanted to make sure she was the center of attention. Mission accomplished!

Anti-sharia legislation is certainly constitutional.

Anti-sharia legislation is redundant on the grounds that the government can't enforce any religion in the first place, or the laws any religion has. Any law that attempts to tell a religious community what rules can govern its own religion is unconstitutional, whether it be sharia law with arbitrary rules for Muslims within the Islamic faith, or the arbitrary Christian rules they impose upon themselves.
Nope.  All you have to do is point to specific, black letter paragraphs of Sharia that conflict with the US Constitution and or the Bill of Rights.  And there are bunches of those.  There's a valid concern that someone/some group in the USA would attempt to create enclaves with laws different than the basic Constitutional rights.

Likely the best known example of this is polygamy.  Sharia says a man can marry four women.  Minnesota says no. 

State wins.
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February 05, 2015, 02:50:28 PM
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But you changed what I said without indicating that you had done so.  Would have been nice if you'd just indicated you were making a change to what you thought.  

Hahaha, mate, I pointed out plainly I was changing the quote. FTFY = Fixed That For You. It's used to indicate someone altered a quote to make it more accurate. In this case, I was making it reflect reality. You missed the joke. The point was you're stating as fact something that isn't.

From Wikipedia-
Bigotry is a state of mind where a person strongly, obstinately, irrationally, unfairly or intolerantly dislikes other people, ideas, etc.

See, my point is they're not protesting CAIR. They don't reference CAIR in signs or speech. They are protesting a gathering of Muslims. That's why they're bigots, as evidenced by the definition you quoted.

This shows the blond lady talking, and the microphone being rudely taken away from here.
How very rude!  She didn't push or shove anyone, and they denied her freedom of speech!

The woman was not invited to speak at the podium. She is using someone else's equipment without permission, which is inherently a use of force. To the extent anyone responds to take the property that does not belong to her away, it's self defense. They didn't deny her speech, they denied her access to their property. She was perfectly free to shout her hate speech without their microphone, but she wanted to make sure she was the center of attention. Mission accomplished!

Anti-sharia legislation is certainly constitutional.

Anti-sharia legislation is redundant on the grounds that the government can't enforce any religion in the first place, or the laws any religion has. Any law that attempts to tell a religious community what rules can govern its own religion is unconstitutional, whether it be sharia law with arbitrary rules for Muslims within the Islamic faith, or the arbitrary Christian rules they impose upon themselves.


a-fake-smile-can-be-bad-for-your-health


New research suggests that putting on a fake smile to mask your unhappiness or displeasure may have unexpected consequences. It can actually worsen your mood and cause you to withdraw from tasks.

Scientists examined what happened when people engaged in fake smiling, an activity also known as "surface acting." They also examined what happened when the same people engaged in "deep acting," a genuine smile. On days when smiles were forced, the participants' moods got worse and they tended to withdraw from work.

The New York Times reports:

"Trying to suppress negative thoughts, it turns out, may have made those thoughts even more persistent ... Women were affected more than men."

Stay healthy my friend

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February 10, 2015, 06:11:49 PM
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But you changed what I said without indicating that you had done so.  Would have been nice if you'd just indicated you were making a change to what you thought.  

Hahaha, mate, I pointed out plainly I was changing the quote. FTFY = Fixed That For You. It's used to indicate someone altered a quote to make it more accurate. In this case, I was making it reflect reality. You missed the joke. The point was you're stating as fact something that isn't.

From Wikipedia-
Bigotry is a state of mind where a person strongly, obstinately, irrationally, unfairly or intolerantly dislikes other people, ideas, etc.

See, my point is they're not protesting CAIR. They don't reference CAIR in signs or speech. They are protesting a gathering of Muslims. That's why they're bigots, as evidenced by the definition you quoted.

This shows the blond lady talking, and the microphone being rudely taken away from here.
How very rude!  She didn't push or shove anyone, and they denied her freedom of speech!

The woman was not invited to speak at the podium. She is using someone else's equipment without permission, which is inherently a use of force. To the extent anyone responds to take the property that does not belong to her away, it's self defense. They didn't deny her speech, they denied her access to their property. She was perfectly free to shout her hate speech without their microphone, but she wanted to make sure she was the center of attention. Mission accomplished!

Anti-sharia legislation is certainly constitutional.

Anti-sharia legislation is redundant on the grounds that the government can't enforce any religion in the first place, or the laws any religion has. Any law that attempts to tell a religious community what rules can govern its own religion is unconstitutional, whether it be sharia law with arbitrary rules for Muslims within the Islamic faith, or the arbitrary Christian rules they impose upon themselves.
Nope.  All you have to do is point to specific, black letter paragraphs of Sharia that conflict with the US Constitution and or the Bill of Rights.  And there are bunches of those.  There's a valid concern that someone/some group in the USA would attempt to create enclaves with laws different than the basic Constitutional rights.

Likely the best known example of this is polygamy.  Sharia says a man can marry four women.  Minnesota says no. 

State wins.

No, there is exactly zero concern that some group in the USA would attempt to create enclaves with laws different than the basic Constitutional rights, because the only entities that can create laws are the government. Some wacko cult/religion passes a "law"? It has zero binding on American citizens.

As you've already demonstrated with your example on polygamy, actual laws trump religious rules. You've actually just proven my point that anti-Sharia law is redundant because actual law already governs.

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February 10, 2015, 06:13:20 PM
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But you changed what I said without indicating that you had done so.  Would have been nice if you'd just indicated you were making a change to what you thought.  

Hahaha, mate, I pointed out plainly I was changing the quote. FTFY = Fixed That For You. It's used to indicate someone altered a quote to make it more accurate. In this case, I was making it reflect reality. You missed the joke. The point was you're stating as fact something that isn't.

From Wikipedia-
Bigotry is a state of mind where a person strongly, obstinately, irrationally, unfairly or intolerantly dislikes other people, ideas, etc.

See, my point is they're not protesting CAIR. They don't reference CAIR in signs or speech. They are protesting a gathering of Muslims. That's why they're bigots, as evidenced by the definition you quoted.

This shows the blond lady talking, and the microphone being rudely taken away from here.
How very rude!  She didn't push or shove anyone, and they denied her freedom of speech!

The woman was not invited to speak at the podium. She is using someone else's equipment without permission, which is inherently a use of force. To the extent anyone responds to take the property that does not belong to her away, it's self defense. They didn't deny her speech, they denied her access to their property. She was perfectly free to shout her hate speech without their microphone, but she wanted to make sure she was the center of attention. Mission accomplished!

Anti-sharia legislation is certainly constitutional.

Anti-sharia legislation is redundant on the grounds that the government can't enforce any religion in the first place, or the laws any religion has. Any law that attempts to tell a religious community what rules can govern its own religion is unconstitutional, whether it be sharia law with arbitrary rules for Muslims within the Islamic faith, or the arbitrary Christian rules they impose upon themselves.


a-fake-smile-can-be-bad-for-your-health


New research suggests that putting on a fake smile to mask your unhappiness or displeasure may have unexpected consequences. It can actually worsen your mood and cause you to withdraw from tasks.

Scientists examined what happened when people engaged in fake smiling, an activity also known as "surface acting." They also examined what happened when the same people engaged in "deep acting," a genuine smile. On days when smiles were forced, the participants' moods got worse and they tended to withdraw from work.

The New York Times reports:

"Trying to suppress negative thoughts, it turns out, may have made those thoughts even more persistent ... Women were affected more than men."

Stay healthy my friend

 Cool



What does the research say about typing "hahaha" to indicate actual laughter occurred?  Grin

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February 10, 2015, 07:23:18 PM
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But you changed what I said without indicating that you had done so.  Would have been nice if you'd just indicated you were making a change to what you thought.  

Hahaha, mate, I pointed out plainly I was changing the quote. FTFY = Fixed That For You. It's used to indicate someone altered a quote to make it more accurate. In this case, I was making it reflect reality. You missed the joke. The point was you're stating as fact something that isn't.

From Wikipedia-
Bigotry is a state of mind where a person strongly, obstinately, irrationally, unfairly or intolerantly dislikes other people, ideas, etc.

See, my point is they're not protesting CAIR. They don't reference CAIR in signs or speech. They are protesting a gathering of Muslims. That's why they're bigots, as evidenced by the definition you quoted.

This shows the blond lady talking, and the microphone being rudely taken away from here.
How very rude!  She didn't push or shove anyone, and they denied her freedom of speech!

The woman was not invited to speak at the podium. She is using someone else's equipment without permission, which is inherently a use of force. To the extent anyone responds to take the property that does not belong to her away, it's self defense. They didn't deny her speech, they denied her access to their property. She was perfectly free to shout her hate speech without their microphone, but she wanted to make sure she was the center of attention. Mission accomplished!

Anti-sharia legislation is certainly constitutional.

Anti-sharia legislation is redundant on the grounds that the government can't enforce any religion in the first place, or the laws any religion has. Any law that attempts to tell a religious community what rules can govern its own religion is unconstitutional, whether it be sharia law with arbitrary rules for Muslims within the Islamic faith, or the arbitrary Christian rules they impose upon themselves.


a-fake-smile-can-be-bad-for-your-health


New research suggests that putting on a fake smile to mask your unhappiness or displeasure may have unexpected consequences. It can actually worsen your mood and cause you to withdraw from tasks.

Scientists examined what happened when people engaged in fake smiling, an activity also known as "surface acting." They also examined what happened when the same people engaged in "deep acting," a genuine smile. On days when smiles were forced, the participants' moods got worse and they tended to withdraw from work.

The New York Times reports:

"Trying to suppress negative thoughts, it turns out, may have made those thoughts even more persistent ... Women were affected more than men."

Stay healthy my friend

 Cool



What does the research say about typing "hahaha" to indicate actual laughter occurred?  Grin



Fake is the opposite of actual. I knew no actual "hahahah" happened when it was typed. It is better for the soul to say what we feel...

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February 10, 2015, 07:34:29 PM
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But you changed what I said without indicating that you had done so.  Would have been nice if you'd just indicated you were making a change to what you thought.  

Hahaha, mate, I pointed out plainly I was changing the quote. FTFY = Fixed That For You. It's used to indicate someone altered a quote to make it more accurate. In this case, I was making it reflect reality. You missed the joke. The point was you're stating as fact something that isn't.

From Wikipedia-
Bigotry is a state of mind where a person strongly, obstinately, irrationally, unfairly or intolerantly dislikes other people, ideas, etc.

See, my point is they're not protesting CAIR. They don't reference CAIR in signs or speech. They are protesting a gathering of Muslims. That's why they're bigots, as evidenced by the definition you quoted.

This shows the blond lady talking, and the microphone being rudely taken away from here.
How very rude!  She didn't push or shove anyone, and they denied her freedom of speech!

The woman was not invited to speak at the podium. She is using someone else's equipment without permission, which is inherently a use of force. To the extent anyone responds to take the property that does not belong to her away, it's self defense. They didn't deny her speech, they denied her access to their property. She was perfectly free to shout her hate speech without their microphone, but she wanted to make sure she was the center of attention. Mission accomplished!

Anti-sharia legislation is certainly constitutional.

Anti-sharia legislation is redundant on the grounds that the government can't enforce any religion in the first place, or the laws any religion has. Any law that attempts to tell a religious community what rules can govern its own religion is unconstitutional, whether it be sharia law with arbitrary rules for Muslims within the Islamic faith, or the arbitrary Christian rules they impose upon themselves.


a-fake-smile-can-be-bad-for-your-health


New research suggests that putting on a fake smile to mask your unhappiness or displeasure may have unexpected consequences. It can actually worsen your mood and cause you to withdraw from tasks.

Scientists examined what happened when people engaged in fake smiling, an activity also known as "surface acting." They also examined what happened when the same people engaged in "deep acting," a genuine smile. On days when smiles were forced, the participants' moods got worse and they tended to withdraw from work.

The New York Times reports:

"Trying to suppress negative thoughts, it turns out, may have made those thoughts even more persistent ... Women were affected more than men."

Stay healthy my friend

 Cool



What does the research say about typing "hahaha" to indicate actual laughter occurred?  Grin

Fake is the opposite of actual. I knew no actual "hahahah" happened when it was typed. It is better for the soul to say what we feel...

 Smiley (I am actually smiling)


You're right, it was an actual "hahaha". The unintentionally irony of someone complaining about me changing their quote with a FTFY device was literally laugh-out-loud funny. I guess you better stick to what you actually know, because your insights have proven as accurate as the conservative click bait you post.    Kiss  <--- Not an actual kiss.

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February 10, 2015, 07:54:17 PM
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But you changed what I said without indicating that you had done so.  Would have been nice if you'd just indicated you were making a change to what you thought.  

Hahaha, mate, I pointed out plainly I was changing the quote. FTFY = Fixed That For You. It's used to indicate someone altered a quote to make it more accurate. In this case, I was making it reflect reality. You missed the joke. The point was you're stating as fact something that isn't.

From Wikipedia-
Bigotry is a state of mind where a person strongly, obstinately, irrationally, unfairly or intolerantly dislikes other people, ideas, etc.

See, my point is they're not protesting CAIR. They don't reference CAIR in signs or speech. They are protesting a gathering of Muslims. That's why they're bigots, as evidenced by the definition you quoted.

This shows the blond lady talking, and the microphone being rudely taken away from here.
How very rude!  She didn't push or shove anyone, and they denied her freedom of speech!

The woman was not invited to speak at the podium. She is using someone else's equipment without permission, which is inherently a use of force. To the extent anyone responds to take the property that does not belong to her away, it's self defense. They didn't deny her speech, they denied her access to their property. She was perfectly free to shout her hate speech without their microphone, but she wanted to make sure she was the center of attention. Mission accomplished!

Anti-sharia legislation is certainly constitutional.

Anti-sharia legislation is redundant on the grounds that the government can't enforce any religion in the first place, or the laws any religion has. Any law that attempts to tell a religious community what rules can govern its own religion is unconstitutional, whether it be sharia law with arbitrary rules for Muslims within the Islamic faith, or the arbitrary Christian rules they impose upon themselves.


a-fake-smile-can-be-bad-for-your-health


New research suggests that putting on a fake smile to mask your unhappiness or displeasure may have unexpected consequences. It can actually worsen your mood and cause you to withdraw from tasks.

Scientists examined what happened when people engaged in fake smiling, an activity also known as "surface acting." They also examined what happened when the same people engaged in "deep acting," a genuine smile. On days when smiles were forced, the participants' moods got worse and they tended to withdraw from work.

The New York Times reports:

"Trying to suppress negative thoughts, it turns out, may have made those thoughts even more persistent ... Women were affected more than men."

Stay healthy my friend

 Cool



What does the research say about typing "hahaha" to indicate actual laughter occurred?  Grin

Fake is the opposite of actual. I knew no actual "hahahah" happened when it was typed. It is better for the soul to say what we feel...

 Smiley (I am actually smiling)


You're right, it was an actual "hahaha". The unintentionally irony of someone complaining about me changing their quote with a FTFY device was literally laugh-out-loud funny. I guess you better stick to what you actually know, because your insights have proven as accurate as the conservative click bait you post.    Kiss  <--- Not an actual kiss.

I know I was right.
If you don't click, you are not a bait.
I like kisses, fake or not, so thank you.

The big question is: How can we progressively change the mind of all those conservative bigots regarding our muslim american brothers? We know that will take years. We need to find a faster solution...




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February 10, 2015, 08:26:17 PM
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I know I was right.
If you don't click, you are not a bait.
I like kisses, fake or not, so thank you.

The big question is: How can we progressively change the mind of all those conservative bigots regarding our muslim american brothers? We know that will take years. We need to find a faster solution...

Um, you mean we should stop thinking they are a bunch of racist intolerant homophobic fascist woman-beaters like the norm in the countries they come (or fled) from?

Probably has some truth in it, that statement.

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February 10, 2015, 08:33:35 PM
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The funny thing is that the Jihadists agree with these guys. It is the moderate, educated Muslims who threaten Al-Qaeda and Dasch. Those bigoted protestor-hillbillies are a lot like the Jihadists and would get along smartly. Just as civilized people would get along with the Muslims who want peace. 

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The funny thing is that the Jihadists agree with these guys. It is the moderate, educated Muslims who threaten Al-Qaeda and Dasch. Those bigoted protestor-hillbillies are a lot like the Jihadists and would get along smartly. Just as civilized people would get along with the Muslims who want peace. 

Man, you really, really, really do not know hillbillies.
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