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January 31, 2015, 11:30:58 PM
Last edit: February 01, 2015, 07:32:01 PM by AgentofCoin
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Hello, yesterday I was trading 3 vanilla reload cards, each with $100 on them.
I personally loaded the cards yesterday and checked the balances.
Eventually, MilesJohan contacted me through my thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=941463.msg10314936#msg10314936

WARNING: It is possible that the two other positive trust associated with MilesJohan are his alts or mains, maybe his "broker", to build up his trust to green.
Both were done back to back and revolved around small amount of $ and paypal.




Below is the private message conversation we had that ultimately led to him scamming me.

yes mate i chargge 7$ over the price of each bitcoin..
You are correct Smiley

Ok I guess that is fine then. 1.287 btc
We can do the trade in 3 parts if you wish.
You first for 0.429, then my card number with $100
and then repeat 2 more times?
Do you still want pictures of the receipts?

yes mate still need receipts,
I will not be going first as you can check my trust for my previous exchanges with no hassle..
send all 3 together and provide me with your btc addy,
Regards

I'm not comfortable doing all three at once. I'd rather do one at a time.
You still interested? I'm taking the pictures now.

im not going to scam you man, my account here is from 2013 and is high status , which i would like to keep...
also previous trade done yesterday for 13btc . check my trust..
Yes please take the pictures and send all 3 codes and you bitcoin address,
Regards

No sorry, i'm not comfortable with going forward with this trade.
We do it in 3 different transactions, or nothing.
Your 13 btc trade reference does not mention 13btc or show any tx and stems from a $30 something dollar paypal transaction.

ok i willing to accept 1 code at a time if you wish.

how do i send you the picture of the receipt and card?

if you can place them both side by side with codes showing off your mobile and email to
joshrichards8619@gmail.com
once approved i will send your bitcoin and we reapeat again.
Send your addy mate

Here is my addy: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I have emailed you the first card

mate u sure that code aint been used already?

no man, just bought them few hours ago.. just scratched them for your pictures.

cool just it wouldnt proccess for my broker,,,he trying again now

if the card doesn't work, i think you need to get a more trustworthy brooker.
how long does it take to normally get approval and move the funds off card?

the code he sadi is not working Sad... usualy around ten minutes. i have another guy who is online who accepts and also puts his funds in escrow, if you wish to send another code there will be no % rate as i will cover the fees because of the last problem with the last guy.
cheers

I just checked the balance on all three cards.
the one i provided you now claims being redeemed.
the other two do not, and have full balances.
It is impossible for the code not to work for your broker, I expect payment for that code from you to my btc addy already provided.
it is not my problem you used a "broker" to facilitate a common transaction.
please send the agreed upon btc to my addy.

So i should assume your silence shows your intention not to make payment and correct this error?

i will have funds for you in 8h from now, i will personally pay from my own pocket
Regards

I have heard nothing from MilesJohan since his last pm, shown above.

He is a Scammer.

UPDATE: See below, where the scammer makes his first statement to me since the event. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=942304.msg10326437#msg10326437

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January 31, 2015, 11:37:09 PM
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It appears you have been the victim of yet another avoidable scam if you would have used escrow. Sorry for your loss.
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January 31, 2015, 11:54:26 PM
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yes mate still need receipts,
I will not be going first as you can check my trust for my previous exchanges with no hassle..
send all 3 together and provide me with your btc addy,
Regards
Did you actually check his trust history? His other trades were done only recently.

As mentioned above, this is a prime example as to the importance of using escrow.
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February 01, 2015, 12:23:26 AM
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Yes, i read his Trust and it seemed a little fishy, but ignored it and proceeded anyway.
That was my first trade here, so lesson learned.
Would have been much worse if I sent all 3 cards like he requested.

When he started taking about his "broker" i knew I was in trouble, lol.


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February 01, 2015, 08:23:21 AM
Last edit: February 01, 2015, 08:38:12 AM by MilesJohan
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I did send you repeated messages but hear nothing either. Do you have proof that you bought the cards were bought recently ?  and were not claimed before sending them to me ?

I am sorry but I didn't see the scam accusation thread here. I just came across it from my trust rating.

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February 01, 2015, 07:20:16 PM
Last edit: February 01, 2015, 07:34:55 PM by AgentofCoin
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I did send you repeated messages but hear nothing either. Do you have proof that you bought the cards were bought recently ?  and were not claimed before sending them to me ?

I am sorry but I didn't see the scam accusation thread here. I just came across it from my trust rating.

You are such a scammer, that I'm shocked you are bothering to defend this account, MilesJohan. I'm sure you have like 10 others.
I never received any messages from you since you stated that you would pay me back.
If you used a "broker" (which i wasn't aware of, since you said you were doing the trade), then its not my loss, if he stole from you. You still owe me for your misplaced trust in him. If that story is even correct. Which I'm sure is just a lie.

Do I have the proof I bought them recently? Yes, physical receipts in hand from walking into the store.
They were not claimed before sending to you? Yes, I checked the balance on all three before emailing a picture of receipt and card, as you requested.
Have you paid me as agreed? No.
Did you state that you would pay me back personally? Yes, see above PM convo.
Have you sent me any PMs since? No.
Are you attempting to sell your account now? Yes. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=942414.msg10325101#msg10325101
Did I sell my other 2 cards with no problem? Yes. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=668416.msg10323830#msg10323830

Based on your statements now, sure seems like I was intentionally scammed by you.

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