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February 05, 2015, 02:19:09 AM
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I wonder if they're affiliated with https://www.ehsminer.com/about/.

Both have the following in their ToS: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22is+entitled+to+make+deductions+due+to+any+deficiencies%22

ehsminer.com is based in Paris where Nasser of BFL lives.

Check this out: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=691836.msg7979261#msg7979261

Only a hunch.



you were willing to scout out that site?
well done on finding some rotten fish in there, i couldn't handle the snowflakes..
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Hi sonny, hi josh, hi Maude!

Butterfly lab crew haha. Someone should let the on going FTC investigation know about this one haha. Talk about desperate!





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February 05, 2015, 03:47:26 PM
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Just blocked OP from the wiki. Ridiculous edit warring... I almost want to keep the page, this is the lamest scam I have ever seen Tongue
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Hi sonny, hi josh, hi Maude!

Butterfly lab crew haha. Someone should let the on going FTC investigation know about this one haha. Talk about desperate!

Why on earth would you quote the op?

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Just blocked OP from the wiki. Ridiculous edit warring...
Thanks - I think the best part was where they edited my User page Wink
Re edit warring (in which I partook): I tried to accommodate their complaints while keeping the core message the same - but I guess it's the core message they took issue with.  Oh well.

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Taras and TheRealSteve is #1 Spammers + Scammer, I will proof it and Audience will decide it,

1. Taras and TheRealSteve tried many attempts together for removing BitHashMiner from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison , Taras and TheRealSteve don't want BithashMiner show there, Now is question what they have authority to remove BitHashMiner, Is all Miners that all listed on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison  are no one scam if they are all legitimate then why there showing this:

Note that products which have not shipped, especially by new vendors, may be scams! Be sure to research any of these intensely before giving them any money.

Second thing is that on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison Another Miner company showing EMIC PowerModule you can check here what are saying bitcointalk community about it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=903855.0 , They are saying it totally scam then why Taras, TheRealSteve not doing what they are doing with BitHashMiner, EMIC PowerModule still showing on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison and never they tried to remove it But Question is what is Authority have to Taras and TheRealSteve, In reality they have no Authority and on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison showing legitimate and scam and people will self decide who are scam or who are legitimate , Taras, TheRealSteve not will decide what they are doing spammy things on wiki.

In fact Taras and TheRealSteve is big gang mafia who don't want anyone work with freedom but if any company will give them money they they will say it is good company 1 example already showing in this post, I Guarantee that Taras and TheRealSteve also will try to remove me from this Forum

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February 05, 2015, 04:47:07 PM
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Hi sonny, hi josh, hi Maude!

Butterfly lab crew haha. Someone should let the on going FTC investigation know about this one haha. Talk about desperate!

Why on earth would you quote the op?

True that, didn't think there. Edited!

Meanwhile, can someone on reddit go there and warn them about this shit bag company being g butterfly labs crew! Painting there old stock (which no one brought) white and selling under a different name. New low lol.





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February 05, 2015, 04:50:49 PM
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Taras and TheRealSteve is #1 Spammers + Scammer, I will proof it and Audience will decide it,

1. Taras and TheRealSteve tried many attempts together for removing BitHashMiner from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison , Taras and TheRealSteve don't want BithashMiner show there, Now is question what they have authority to remove BitHashMiner, Is all Miners that all listed on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison  are no one scam if they are all legitimate then why there showing this:

Note that products which have not shipped, especially by new vendors, may be scams! Be sure to research any of these intensely before giving them any money.

Second thing is that on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison Another Miner company showing EMIC PowerModule you can check here what are saying bitcointalk community about it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=903855.0 , They are saying it totally scam then why Taras, TheRealSteve not doing what they are doing with BitHashMiner, EMIC PowerModule still showing on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison and never they tried to remove it But Question is what is Authority have to Taras and TheRealSteve, In reality they have no Authority and on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison showing legitimate and scam and people will self decide who are scam or who are legitimate , Taras, TheRealSteve not will decide what they are doing spammy things on wiki.

In fact Taras and TheRealSteve is big gang mafia who don't want anyone work with freedom but if any company will give them money they they will say it is good company 1 example already showing in this post, I Guarantee that Taras and TheRealSteve also will try to remove me from this Forum

Thank you. Smiley

I will be framing this one.
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Hi sonny, hi josh, hi Maude!

Butterfly lab crew haha. Someone should let the on going FTC investigation know about this one haha. Talk about desperate!

Why on earth would you quote the op?

True that, didn't think there. Edited!

Meanwhile, can someone on reddit go there and warn them about this shit bag company being g butterfly labs crew! Painting there old stock (which no one brought) white and selling under a different name. New low lol.

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Taras and TheRealSteve is #1 Spammers + Scammer, I will proof it and Audience will decide it,

1. Taras and TheRealSteve tried many attempts together for removing BitHashMiner from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison , Taras and TheRealSteve don't want BithashMiner show there, Now is question what they have authority to remove BitHashMiner, Is all Miners that all listed on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison  are no one scam if they are all legitimate then why there showing this:

Note that products which have not shipped, especially by new vendors, may be scams! Be sure to research any of these intensely before giving them any money.

Second thing is that on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison Another Miner company showing EMIC PowerModule you can check here what are saying bitcointalk community about it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=903855.0 , They are saying it totally scam then why Taras, TheRealSteve not doing what they are doing with BitHashMiner, EMIC PowerModule still showing on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison and never they tried to remove it But Question is what is Authority have to Taras and TheRealSteve, In reality they have no Authority and on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison showing legitimate and scam and people will self decide who are scam or who are legitimate , Taras, TheRealSteve not will decide what they are doing spammy things on wiki.

In fact Taras and TheRealSteve is big gang mafia who don't want anyone work with freedom but if any company will give them money they they will say it is good company 1 example already showing in this post, I Guarantee that Taras and TheRealSteve also will try to remove me from this Forum

Thank you. Smiley

I will be framing this one.

Are you...Are you even serious BitHashMiner?  Why are you continuing to even try?  You have obviously been caught red handed (almost immediately might I add), and yet, you still are defaming legendary and up forum members?  Remove your wesbite, copy and paste it onto a new site, make a new account and try again.  Geez.

Btw, if you really were shipping in April as your website says, you would have sample chips, as well as, boards and a plethora of other stuff that you could post pictures of proving you were legit.  Now get lost.

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Question is what is authority Taras and TheRealSteve to remove any Miners from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison
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tl;dr version: "Rather than provide proof of our hardware designs or any substantial information at all, please allow me to go for ad hominem attacks."

Taras and TheRealSteve is #1 Spammers + Scammer, I will proof it and Audience will decide it,
I'll be happy to let the audience decide Smiley

1. Taras and TheRealSteve tried many attempts together for removing BitHashMiner from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison , Taras and TheRealSteve don't want BithashMiner show there,
Actually, the link you should go for is the editing history: https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Mining_hardware_comparison&action=history

You'll find that Taras only made the final edit.  I was the one who initially commented out (note: not even removed) your listing simply because all signs point to your hardware not existing.  Later I decided to leave it in, believing that the interwiki link to BitHashMiner would land people on a page pointing visitors to this forum thread anyway.  I did place it further down the list as the list is in alphabetical order (the table sort module is disabled or not implemented), after which you repeatedly put it back at the top until I pointed out exactly where to find the BitHashMiner entry.


Now is question what they have authority to remove BitHashMiner,
It's a wiki - anybody can add (let me get back to that in 5... 4...) or remove content from it.  Basically, I have the same level of authority as you do, but certainly less than moderators / admins.

Is all Miners that all listed on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison  are no one scam
Honestly, I wouldn't know - I only looked at your entry due to this forum thread.  I'd be happy to remove the EMIC or Achilles Labs or whatever other shady entry, but only after I review them.  People more familiar with those outfits - e.g. Luke-Jr who repeatedly tried to remove the Achilles Labs entry before - are certainly welcome to do so as well.

On the up side, if EMIC is truly the only one you could single out there, then that list really isn't doing too bad at all.

if they are all legitimate then why there showing this:

Note that products which have not shipped, especially by new vendors, may be scams! Be sure to research any of these intensely before giving them any money.[/b]
3... 2... 1... because anybody can edit it and add any entry pointing to whatever they want.  The warning up there is thus a general reminder to visitors of the wiki that they should be wary of new entries.


But Question is what is Authority have to Taras and TheRealSteve, In reality they have no Authority and on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison showing legitimate and scam and people will self decide who are scam or who are legitimate , Taras, TheRealSteve not will decide what they are doing spammy things on wiki.
Sorry, that's not how I believe being a good community member works.  We shouldn't just throw people into the pit and let them fend for themselves.  If we did, then that page would be a lot longer, and the number of scam companies would certainly outnumber the ones that are legitimate.

In fact Taras and TheRealSteve is big gang mafia who don't want anyone work with freedom but if any company will give them money they they will say it is good company 1 example already showing in this post
I only skimmed the thread again, but could you point out where anybody said that if you gave them money they would say your company, or any other company, would be described as 'good'?

I do see several suggestions of sending hardware to a trusted member of the forum (and no, I'm not one of those trusted members, do a search to find out who are. It's a very short list.), and the only thing I specifically said about that was:
I'm not saying you have to send out free miners - I don't even agree with that practice

Taras didn't even enter this thread until his post to point out that he locked your wiki account.

I Guarantee that Taras and TheRealSteve also will try to remove me from this Forum
That's a potential fallacy of self-fulfilling prophecy - I can assure you that if I wanted to do so, I would have 1. made a post in the Scam Accusations section and 2. reported this thread to the moderators.  I have done none of these things so far, and I'm not inclined to do so in the future either as this thread is an excellent reminder to others to be vigilant even to this day.

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I'm understand that who are saying BitHashMiner is Scam they are self scam because they have no Legit Proof/Evidence about it and nor they have positive thinking, They think Every New Companies are scam but they have some proof about scam, I want to announce about How they comparison, They comparison with own negative thinking, They say we are saying it is scam Because it is scam, In simple word we can say their Thinking is Scam. Cheesy

Every time when Innovation comes then suddenly they say it is scam, When anybody ask them why are you saying it is scam Have you proof then they say yeah we are thinking it is scam it's a proof that it is scam,  Smiley

I want to disclosure that in this thread Nearby 94% who are writing against BitHashMiner and Mentioning that BitHashMiner is totally scam sending me private E-Mails that Please send me BitHashMiner, If you will send me BitHashMiner free then i will write Delicious and positive post about BitHashMiner,.... It's so Amazing  Cheesy, It's mean BitHashMiner is NO SCAM. Smiley

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February 05, 2015, 05:17:43 PM
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Check here https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Mining_hardware_comparison&action=history

(cur | prev) 15:45, 5 February 2015‎ Taras (Talk | contribs)‎ . . (19,856 bytes) (-293)‎ . . (- bhm)
(cur | prev) 01:55, 5 February 2015‎ Ezeminer (Talk | contribs)‎ . . (20,149 bytes) (+274)‎ . . (Added Antminer S5)
(cur | prev) 01:30, 5 February 2015‎ TheRealSteve (Talk | contribs)‎ m . . (19,875 bytes) (0)‎ . . (A then B then C. Though I just realized it should be between 'BitFury S.B.' and 'Bitmine.ch Avalon Clone 85GH', so that's where it's moved to.)


People will decide when TheRealSteve apply this  (A then B then C. Though I just realized it should be between 'BitFury S.B.' and 'Bitmine.ch Avalon Clone 85GH', so that's where it's moved to.),  settings then why Taras remove me from list.

Because you can check TheRealSteve made many attempts for removing me from list but after TheRealSteve think he need another person to remove it and other person is Taras.


But still Question:
Question is what is authority Taras and TheRealSteve to remove any Miners from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison




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10.1. BitHashMiner reserves the right to terminate and rescind an approved order, or the entire Agreement, immediately in the event the Purchaser breaches the Agreement and fails to rectify such breach within thirty (30) calendar days from BitHashMiner’ written notification to the Purchaser of the breach. Such notice shall not affect BitHashMiner right to claim damages or any other economic compensation due to the Purchaser’s breach. Further, BitHashMiner reserves the right to immediately terminate and rescind an approved order, or the entire Agreement, in the event that the Purchaser: (i) no longer conducts any of its business activities, (ii) suspends its payments, (iii) enters into liquidation or initiates reorganization, (iv) initiates negotiations with creditors on composition or (v) for any other reason may reasonably be deemed as insolvent.
10.2. Termination and rescission under this section shall not under any circumstances give rise to any obligation for BitHashMiner to pay compensation to the Purchaser, and does not restrict BitHashMiner possibility to claim damages or other economic compensation due to the event which justified BitHashMiner to terminate the order or the Agreement.
From the ToS on their website.  This reads to me, that they can take your money, then decide to cancel your order, at any time, at their sole discretion, and have no obligation to pay you anything back.

Go scam somewhere else you frauds.  Btw, if you read the rest of the terms (its tough with those damn snowflakes floating everywhere), they are in their for a good laugh.  The part about refusing delivery sure sounded pretty close to BlackArrow's current problems and updates to their ToS.

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February 05, 2015, 05:37:36 PM
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Because you can check TheRealSteve made many attempts for removing me from list but after TheRealSteve think he need another person to remove it and other person is Taras.
Steve and I did not collaborate on this at all. We both acted on separate suspicions.
But still Question:
Question is what is authority Taras and TheRealSteve to remove any Miners from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison

Well, what authority did I have to delete your page, block you from editing, and blacklist your website? Tongue
Delisting you was done on the same basis. We don't allow scams to roam freely on the wiki.
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February 05, 2015, 05:37:55 PM
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then why Taras remove me from list.
I don't know, perhaps Taras can answer for sure.  However, I can think of a reason, and it has to do with the following:

Because you can check TheRealSteve made many attempts for removing me from list but after TheRealSteve think he need another person to remove it and other person is Taras.
Don't be silly.  If I wanted to remove your entry again, I would simply do so.  You can see in my previous reply that I:
decided to leave it in, believing that the interwiki link to BitHashMiner would land people on a page pointing visitors to this forum thread anyway.
So to get back to why Taras may have removed the entry (other than for obvious reasons): the BitHashMiner wiki entry was blanked out, meaning that users would no longer see the pointer to this thread if clicking on the hardware listing entry.

But still Question:
Question is what is authority Taras and TheRealSteve to remove any Miners from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison
Also already answered.  Not sure if I need to write it in bold red text, but here you go:
It's a wiki - anybody can add [...] or remove content from it.  Basically, I have the same level of authority as you do, but certainly less than moderators / admins.

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February 05, 2015, 05:42:16 PM
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Because you can check TheRealSteve made many attempts for removing me from list but after TheRealSteve think he need another person to remove it and other person is Taras.
Steve and I did not collaborate on this at all. We both acted on separate suspicions.
But still Question:
Question is what is authority Taras and TheRealSteve to remove any Miners from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison

Well, what authority did I have to delete your page, block you from editing, and blacklist your website? Tongue
Delisting you was done on the same basis. We don't allow scams to roam freely on the wiki.

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Question is what is authority Taras and TheRealSteve to remove any Miners from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison
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February 05, 2015, 05:51:12 PM
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then why Taras remove me from list.
I don't know, perhaps Taras can answer for sure.  However, I can think of a reason, and it has to do with the following:

Because you can check TheRealSteve made many attempts for removing me from list but after TheRealSteve think he need another person to remove it and other person is Taras.
Don't be silly.  If I wanted to remove your entry again, I would simply do so.  You can see in my previous reply that I:
decided to leave it in, believing that the interwiki link to BitHashMiner would land people on a page pointing visitors to this forum thread anyway.
So to get back to why Taras may have removed the entry (other than for obvious reasons): the BitHashMiner wiki entry was blanked out, meaning that users would no longer see the pointer to this thread if clicking on the hardware listing entry.

But still Question:
Question is what is authority Taras and TheRealSteve to remove any Miners from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison
Also already answered.  Not sure if I need to write it in bold red text, but here you go:
It's a wiki - anybody can add [...] or remove content from it.  Basically, I have the same level of authority as you do, but certainly less than moderators / admins.



Thanks for mention this, You also targeting my wiki website page : https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BitHashMiner, Congratulations Now again  Taras removed my Wiki webpage it's showing that they together targeting BitHashMiner  "

This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference.
15:45, 5 February 2015 Taras (Talk | contribs) deleted page BitHashMiner (Fraudulent or malicious intent: content was: "BitHashMiner is introducing BitHashMiner 10TH/s Bitcoin Miner With Amazing Price $1,000, Limited Time Offer, Product Description: BitHashMiner is the Best device which will have 20nm ASIC chips, Each ASI...)
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February 05, 2015, 05:58:15 PM
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Are you owner it
I'm not.  Taras is probably an admin, but I have no idea what the access levels at bitcoin.it look like.
Not going to answer the other question a third time Smiley

Thanks for mention this, You also targeting my wiki website page : https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BitHashMiner, Congratulations Now again  Taras removed my Wiki webpage it's showing that they together targeting BitHashMiner  "
I believe you'll find the information relevant to the page protection and deletion in the discussion page (which you also repeatedly blanked out, even after the only discussion content was asking for proof of hardware):  https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Talk:BitHashMiner

That you did not engage in any meaningful debate there, or here, allowing the protection to lapse is not something I can help you with any more than your conspiracy mindset; People generally know how wikis work and can check the edits you, Taras and I have made very exactly.  I'd be happy to list them here.

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