1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM

[bitcoinBull]

Next, I also find it amusing that everyone is assuming that this address belongs to Pirate. In fact, some quick analysis on my part seems to show otherwise. It's most likely Silk Road.

I can do better than that. I can prove it belongs to Silk Road by transactions I moved in there and subsequently out of there, but since anyone can do so without breaking any laws, I'll refrain from going into detail and let someone else do the dirty work of "proving" it. I'll admit I don't really know much about Silk Road, but I was able to at least discern this from the short time I moved coin in and subsequently out.

I really am starting to think that a significant number of Bitcoiners are just remaining comfortably numb regarding the impact and sway that Silk Road has on Bitcoin price. I don't know why, though. Plus, it seems like the ultimate free mixer, they don't charge even a Bitpenny and you can be assured you have completely cleaned your coin. Well, "cleaned" it by at least assuring it can't be tied to your online identity, not really "cleaned" it by separating it from possible association with illegal activity.

I still maintain that it is most likely an MtGox address. I bet if you look at previous MtGox deposits/withdrawlals, you will find it taints MtGox transactions just as much, if not more, than SR transactions. Its impossible to do more analysis until there's more activity (last send transaction was 8/17/2012).

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[ErebusBat]

Next, I also find it amusing that everyone is assuming that this address belongs to Pirate. In fact, some quick analysis on my part seems to show otherwise. It's most likely Silk Road.

I can do better than that. I can prove it belongs to Silk Road by transactions I moved in there and subsequently out of there, but since anyone can do so without breaking any laws, I'll refrain from going into detail and let someone else do the dirty work of "proving" it. I'll admit I don't really know much about Silk Road, but I was able to at least discern this from the short time I moved coin in and subsequently out.

I really am starting to think that a significant number of Bitcoiners are just remaining comfortably numb regarding the impact and sway that Silk Road has on Bitcoin price. I don't know why, though. Plus, it seems like the ultimate free mixer, they don't charge even a Bitpenny and you can be assured you have completely cleaned your coin. Well, "cleaned" it by at least assuring it can't be tied to your online identity, not really "cleaned" it by separating it from possible association with illegal activity.

I still maintain that it is most likely an MtGox address. I bet if you look at previous MtGox deposits/withdrawlals, you will find it taints MtGox transactions just as much, if not more, than SR transactions. Its impossible to do more analysis until there's more activity (last send transaction was 8/17/2012).

How do you explain dooglus' findings?

[sadpandatech]

I think its clear that Micon is a scammer. Last night I was at a table at sealswithclubs.eu with over 50k chips (50btc) and he sat down and took it all within a couple of hours. Straight up ruthless thief. GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK MICON.

LOL. I dislike Micon as much as the next guy. But, umm, he is quite the poker player form what I hear. Did he do something other than win hands to make you believe he was cheating?

[humanitee]

That's some pretty blatant sarcasm.

[Raize]

(last send transaction was 8/17/2012).

One set of 100,000 was broken into a 60k BTC branch and a 40 BTC branch:
https://blockchain.info/address/1Hcs1e7iaMp1gvm5mypZsqVa6ncpcfiCcm

The 40k Branch, first spinoff:
https://blockchain.info/address/1K7KkP3mCsZUEDT7MuQqDpUgLgUbeLzLCA

Second spinoff:
https://blockchain.info/address/18Hs8cqQXkz8r2yBMLyFgYdCf7oj343w7B

Third:
https://blockchain.info/address/1DASVnie9amHLM7vgiiLTxYEefzx63XTmV

Fourth:
https://blockchain.info/address/192AgengM4FGGuDV8g6giFMWXhrzeGqTXr

Get the idea yet?

Now, move coin into Silk Road and immediately back out. Then look at where your "payment" comes from, go up and down the chain three or four links to get the idea of what is paying you. It's the same payout mechanism, it just rolls around and spits out money. If you bother to take the time to go through the blockchain you'll be able to confirm this is likely Silk Road's money. Some of it coalesces back into large wallets again, some of it does not. It's a great free mixing service, if that's what you truly want out of Silk Road. Given their clientele, I assume that service is necessary, but not what they are coming there for.

It may well end up being that -- just like its cash counterpart having traces of coke-- nearly every Bitcoin will someday have traces back to a Silk Road address. I'm not sure every Bitcoiner will care, but you ought to know this for the implications it may have in the future..

[Sitarow]

(last send transaction was 8/17/2012).

One set of 100,000 was broken into a 60k BTC branch and a 40 BTC branch:
https://blockchain.info/address/1Hcs1e7iaMp1gvm5mypZsqVa6ncpcfiCcm

The 40k Branch, first spinoff:
https://blockchain.info/address/1K7KkP3mCsZUEDT7MuQqDpUgLgUbeLzLCA

Second spinoff:
https://blockchain.info/address/18Hs8cqQXkz8r2yBMLyFgYdCf7oj343w7B

Third:
https://blockchain.info/address/1DASVnie9amHLM7vgiiLTxYEefzx63XTmV

Fourth:
https://blockchain.info/address/192AgengM4FGGuDV8g6giFMWXhrzeGqTXr

Get the idea yet?

Now, move coin into Silk Road and immediately back out. Then look at where your "payment" comes from, go up and down the chain three or four links to get the idea of what is paying you. It's the same payout mechanism, it just rolls around and spits out money. If you bother to take the time to go through the blockchain you'll be able to confirm this is likely Silk Road's money. Some of it coalesces back into large wallets again, some of it does not. It's a great free mixing service, if that's what you truly want out of Silk Road. Given their clientele, I assume that service is necessary, but not what they are coming there for.

It may well end up being that -- just like its cash counterpart having traces of crack -- nearly every Bitcoin will someday have traces back to a Silk Road address in the future. I'm not sure every Bitcoiner will care, but you should ought to know this for the implications it may have.

I know of 5000 BTC that will never ever be traced back to silk road.

[ErebusBat]

I know of 5000 BTC that will never ever be traced back to silk road.

[molecular]

I know of 5000 BTC that will never ever be traced back to silk road.

because someone lost them? In that case it could be argued they are not even bitcoins any more.

Or maybe because you are sitting on them? In that case: are you sure?

[gbl08ma]

I know of 5000 BTC that will never ever be traced back to silk road.

because someone lost them? In that case it could be argued they are not even bitcoins any more.

Or maybe because you are sitting on them? In that case: are you sure?

If he mined/knows of someone who mined 5000 BTC and never spent them, then he can be sure the coins can't be traced to silk road.

[notme]

I know of 5000 BTC that will never ever be traced back to silk road.

because someone lost them? In that case it could be argued they are not even bitcoins any more.

Or maybe because you are sitting on them? In that case: are you sure?

If he mined/knows of someone who mined 5000 BTC and never spent them, then he can be sure the coins can't be traced to silk road.

If someone had them, never ever couldn't be guaranteed unless they don't spend them before silk road goes away.  Having coins you can't spend is kind of useless.

[Spekulatius]

There just was a tx with total output 2000 BTC, that includes 1,999,999.95 BTC in fees.

Guess where it went to:  SATOSHI DICE!!
It is the 50/50 address of satoshidice.com

tx:  6f3317c124186027a3c4c04d50c7e73c663aa1c5e04ec2153a2e29f521ccab1a
receiving address: 1dice97ECuByXAvqXpaYzSaQuPVvrtmz6

[gbl08ma]

There just was a tx with total output 2000 BTC, that includes 1,999,999.95 BTC in fees.

Guess where it went to:  SATOSHI DICE!!
It is the 50/50 address of satoshidice.com

tx:  6f3317c124186027a3c4c04d50c7e73c663aa1c5e04ec2153a2e29f521ccab1a
receiving address: 1dice97ECuByXAvqXpaYzSaQuPVvrtmz6

Nice trolling.

[Raoul Duke]

There just was a tx with total output 2000 BTC, that includes 1,999,999.95 BTC in fees.

Guess where it went to:  SATOSHI DICE!!
It is the 50/50 address of satoshidice.com

tx:  6f3317c124186027a3c4c04d50c7e73c663aa1c5e04ec2153a2e29f521ccab1a
receiving address: 1dice97ECuByXAvqXpaYzSaQuPVvrtmz6

Nope...
Tx ID: http://blockchain.info/tx/4d6c2f0045f4b4f824fc47b5e1fd429c525465cf1bd5fb9745f6b15c21cfefe0
From: http://blockchain.info/address/16cou7Ht6WjTzuFyDBnht9hmvXytg6XdVT
Value: 20,000 BTC

[Spekulatius]

Lol, it keeps getting funnier! Now there was a

21 MIO BTC transaction just now !!! (still unconfirmed)

tx:  bb0035f8b02f7e716d14a90505ffdf00e4b71a3e6030c41abebf7129915bd42a

[adamstgBit]

There just was a tx with total output 2000 BTC, that includes 1,999,999.95 BTC in fees.

Guess where it went to:  SATOSHI DICE!!
It is the 50/50 address of satoshidice.com

tx:  6f3317c124186027a3c4c04d50c7e73c663aa1c5e04ec2153a2e29f521ccab1a
receiving address: 1dice97ECuByXAvqXpaYzSaQuPVvrtmz6

lol

i cant seem to see this 1,999,999.95 BTC in fees.

can you make it easy for us and point it out

[adamstgBit]

There just was a tx with total output 2000 BTC, that includes 1,999,999.95 BTC in fees.

Guess where it went to:  SATOSHI DICE!!
It is the 50/50 address of satoshidice.com

tx:  6f3317c124186027a3c4c04d50c7e73c663aa1c5e04ec2153a2e29f521ccab1a
receiving address: 1dice97ECuByXAvqXpaYzSaQuPVvrtmz6

Nope...
Tx ID: http://blockchain.info/tx/4d6c2f0045f4b4f824fc47b5e1fd429c525465cf1bd5fb9745f6b15c21cfefe0
From: http://blockchain.info/address/16cou7Ht6WjTzuFyDBnht9hmvXytg6XdVT
Value: 20,000 BTC

that says 0BTC fees

[adamstgBit]

Lol, it keeps getting funnier! Now there was a

21 MIO BTC transaction just now !!! (still unconfirmed)

tx:  bb0035f8b02f7e716d14a90505ffdf00e4b71a3e6030c41abebf7129915bd42a

BS...

http://blockchain.info/tx/bb0035f8b02f7e716d14a90505ffdf00e4b71a3e6030c41abebf7129915bd42a

"Transaction not found"

[Raoul Duke]

There just was a tx with total output 2000 BTC, that includes 1,999,999.95 BTC in fees.

Guess where it went to:  SATOSHI DICE!!
It is the 50/50 address of satoshidice.com

tx:  6f3317c124186027a3c4c04d50c7e73c663aa1c5e04ec2153a2e29f521ccab1a
receiving address: 1dice97ECuByXAvqXpaYzSaQuPVvrtmz6

Nope...
Tx ID: http://blockchain.info/tx/4d6c2f0045f4b4f824fc47b5e1fd429c525465cf1bd5fb9745f6b15c21cfefe0
From: http://blockchain.info/address/16cou7Ht6WjTzuFyDBnht9hmvXytg6XdVT
Value: 20,000 BTC

that says 0BTC fees

Yup.

[adamstgBit]

  Spekulatius is posting BS to try to get the price to crash?

[Raoul Duke]

  Spekulatius is posting BS to try to get the price to crash?

That should work... NOT!