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July 27, 2012, 08:00:20 PM
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IF they can get it refined, add more body styles (ie roof) and ensure delivery they will have a market.


The killer app for this mod car would be easy body style changes + affordability.  What will hurt them is a crappy interior and instrumentation package.

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July 27, 2012, 08:06:20 PM
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IF they can get it refined, add more body styles (ie roof) and ensure delivery they will have a market.


The killer app for this mod car would be easy body style changes + affordability.  What will hurt them is a crappy interior and instrumentation package.


Kit cars aren't for everyone, but they do have a market. I don't think he really needs to change anything. If you want something more polished you should probably look elsewhere. Maybe try and get Local Motors to accept Bitcoin.

As far as delivery, the prototypes that are being offered for sale are already built.

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August 02, 2012, 02:54:47 AM
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I can't find the open source car plans though. Is it downloadable?

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August 02, 2012, 03:06:57 AM
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As far as delivery, the prototypes that are being offered for sale are already built.

Well, they are building for customer orders, and have a backlog apparently:

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We have road legal cars on the road now (http://www.wikispeed.com/Affordable)- and could probably have one to you buy Christmas.

 - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/xig8o/im_joe_justice_founder_of_the_wikispeed_my_team/c5mn9xn



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August 02, 2012, 03:09:33 AM
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Joe Justice did an AMA on reddit

"I'm Joe Justice, founder of the WIKISPEED. My team invented a carbon-fiber ultra efficient 100mpg car and we've decided to accept Bitcoin. AMA"

 - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/xig8o/im_joe_justice_founder_of_the_wikispeed_my_team/

I can't find the open source car plans though. Is it downloadable?

That was discussed:

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We published a version of our car in Open Source (http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Wikispeed_SGT01) so folks can modify or design their own compatible modules.

 - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/xig8o/im_joe_justice_founder_of_the_wikispeed_my_team/c5mmw99\

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August 02, 2012, 03:17:39 AM
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Joe Justice did an AMA on reddit

"I'm Joe Justice, founder of the WIKISPEED. My team invented a carbon-fiber ultra efficient 100mpg car and we've decided to accept Bitcoin. AMA"

 - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/xig8o/im_joe_justice_founder_of_the_wikispeed_my_team/

I can't find the open source car plans though. Is it downloadable?

That was discussed:

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We published a version of our car in Open Source (http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Wikispeed_SGT01) so folks can modify or design their own compatible modules.

 - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/xig8o/im_joe_justice_founder_of_the_wikispeed_my_team/c5mmw99\
Okay - thanks!  Grin It wasn't Google-able though, and they should put that link on their site.

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August 02, 2012, 03:19:12 AM
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One day you will be able to entirely print a  car using a 3d printer.

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August 02, 2012, 07:28:19 AM
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One day you will be able to entirely print a  car using a 4D printer.

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August 02, 2012, 07:36:34 AM
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One day you will be able to entirely print a  car using a 4D printer.

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I'd love to print more time...

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August 02, 2012, 07:44:48 AM
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One day you will be able to entirely print a  car using a 4D printer.

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I'd love to print more time...

I just want one that prints cotton candy nipple tassels...
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August 02, 2012, 08:08:27 AM
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One day you will be able to entirely print a  car using a 4D printer.

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I'd love to print more time...

I just want one that prints cotton candy nipple tassels...


mmmmmm... nipple tassels....

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August 02, 2012, 03:13:17 PM
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a wikispeed review you will like to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuMc9ul3fv4 (by Nixie Pixel)
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August 02, 2012, 05:42:23 PM
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YES !!!! this is 100 MPG of awesomeness. I'lll take two.

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August 02, 2012, 05:54:49 PM
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YES !!!! this is 100 MPG of awesomeness. I'lll take two.

Uh... You have to actually pay for them with Bitcoin. Their address is 12JiynsQcfNLbeWnM7cdnYGo3axPXDcwCV.

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August 02, 2012, 06:04:11 PM
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YES !!!! this is 100 MPG of awesomeness. I'lll take two.

Uh... You have to actually pay for them with Bitcoin. Their address is 129aqQRs1dwws3bfPQ9YggKhRmPBPYNoCW.

Yeah, I seen that.. spot me 2000 BTC ? I could put them together myself.

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August 02, 2012, 06:06:50 PM
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YES !!!! this is 100 MPG of awesomeness. I'lll take two.

Uh... You have to actually pay for them with Bitcoin. Their address is 129aqQRs1dwws3bfPQ9YggKhRmPBPYNoCW.

Address on their webpage and in the OP is 12JiynsQcfNLbeWnM7cdnYGo3axPXDcwCV - who owns the address you posted?

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Address on their webpage and in the OP is 12JiynsQcfNLbeWnM7cdnYGo3axPXDcwCV - who owns the address you posted?

lol.. I do!

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August 06, 2012, 04:30:24 PM
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sexy car pic for a wiki bump

Call 425-312-3996 to purchase.

Customers are invited to pay $25,000.00 at once or in up to 25 monthly payments. Customers may pay ahead at any time, and their prototypes are built as the funds arrive. Customers are sent photos of their car in progress every 2 weeks and are invited to visit their car in progress during the build. When the car is complete and after teh final payment has been made, customers are emailed a photo of their complete car and invited to pick up the car and meet the build team, or arrange vehicle transport (vehicle transport is at the customer's expense). Customers may cancel at any time. If purchase is cancelled or payment is skipped for 3 or more months, WIKISPEED will make reasonable attempt to return half of the custoemrs payments made to date. The car will be completed for the next customer in line.


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August 06, 2012, 06:10:02 PM
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Customers are invited to pay $25,000.00 at once or in up to 25 monthly payments. Customers may pay ahead at any time, and their prototypes are built as the funds arrive. Customers are sent photos of their car in progress every 2 weeks and are invited to visit their car in progress during the build.

Accepting deposits (pre-selling) is not likely a good idea, at least not for U.S. customers and definitely not using PayPal.

The PayPal payments are sent to the finance@wikispeed.com PayPal account.  This is likely registered with PayPal as a U.S. business account (shows as verified since 2011).  

At some point PayPal's compliance group is going to see amounts too large for their taste, and will decide that "contributions" are not really donations but instead made with the intention that there is a car delivered once the $25K of donations is completed.  That's a pre-payment and not "donation".   Even if there was a car being built for this pre-sale buyer with all components already procured (or the car already built and sitting in a warehouse or showroom somewhere) it would still violate PayPal's usage agreement.  

 - https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-content&content_ID=ua/AcceptableUse_full

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You may not use the PayPal service for activities that:
3. lay-away systems

So this is a near guarantee that PayPal will at some point freeze the funds (take existing balance from Wikispeed's PayPal account and claw back from bank withdrawals if the amount to freeze exceeds the PayPal balance).  Frozen funds sit for 180 days.  The disposition from there might be that funds are returned directly to the buyer.

This would probably be quite disruptive to WIKISPEED.   It is probably best to not challenge the PayPal beast, as their track record is fairly consistent.

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August 06, 2012, 07:28:13 PM
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Thanks for this Stephen, I will forward this important concerns to Joe Justice. The new website is almost ready an I am hoping we will have a better solution.
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