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Author Topic: Bryan Micon's List of BTC Ponzi Schemes that should not be listed as "Lending"  (Read 107890 times)
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August 13, 2012, 07:49:51 PM
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I just navigated to http://www.miconsecrets.com and the "me-con" man struck again.
His website tried to install some backdoor (HTML/Rce.Gen3) on my system.
I think this should be posted on the scam section of the forum. Can somebody else please confirm?

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August 13, 2012, 07:53:24 PM
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I just navigated to http://www.miconsecrets.com and the "me-con" man struck again.
His website tried to install some backdoor (HTML/Rce.Gen3) on my system.
I think this should be posted on the scam section of the forum. Can somebody else please confirm?



not my site.  I see you and Clipse always post at similar times.  Must be coincidence.  Seriously, start a new thread, let's go there and endlessly debate my character and credibility.  I'm a stand-up guy and long time member of the poker community.  Many top player will vouch for my character.

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT PONZI MIS-CATEGORIZATION, and general BTC Ponzi scam tracking.

1)  Has no Pass throughs paid out today?  doesn't seem like any have reported interest...

2)  Clipse - this is not the thread for that - make one, I will debate you all day, put the link in your sig if you want.


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August 13, 2012, 07:56:09 PM
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I just navigated to http://www.miconsecrets.com and the "me-con" man struck again.
His website tried to install some backdoor (HTML/Rce.Gen3) on my system.
I think this should be posted on the scam section of the forum. Can somebody else please confirm?

not my site. 
Sure, it must be some other Bryan Micon, because there is a Bryan Micon on every block that tries to sell some poker system.
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August 13, 2012, 07:59:30 PM
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August 13, 2012, 08:00:09 PM
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I just navigated to http://www.miconsecrets.com and the "me-con" man struck again.
His website tried to install some backdoor (HTML/Rce.Gen3) on my system.
I think this should be posted on the scam section of the forum. Can somebody else please confirm?



not my site.  I see you and Clipse always post at similar times.  Must be coincidence.  Seriously, start a new thread, let's go there and endlessly debate my character and credibility.  I'm a stand-up guy and long time member of the poker community.  Many top player will vouch for my character.

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT PONZI MIS-CATEGORIZATION, and general BTC Ponzi scam tracking.

1)  Has no Pass throughs paid out today?  doesn't seem like any have reported interest...

2)  Clipse - this is not the thread for that - make one, I will debate you all day, put the link in your sig if you want.




Funny that you think this is a debate. I am stating facts and not asking for your opinion on the matter but merely to come clean to the evidence that is plastered all over the internet.

I wont start a new thread considering you had the self-importance attitude to spread your fud all over other threads then I will do the same in your thread except with FACTUAL data.

You were the one who opened pandoras box and unfortunately for you only your own crap were inside.

Get used to this, it wont stop until you start answer to all the scams you pulled over the years.

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August 13, 2012, 08:02:16 PM
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did Pirate pay everyone today?  

a couple i glanced at (vescudero, nckrazze) paid interest early.  if others did the same, then that's a tell.  maybe that was done with the intent to boost confidence as if they are paying early, definitely can't be in trouble!   or, maybe the affiliates that have a high reinvestment rate got paid out first because the reinvested funds were needed to then pay others which have higher redemptions?
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August 13, 2012, 08:03:31 PM
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Apparently, there's no such thing as buyer beware in their collective vernacular.
You might want to learn what that phrase means before you accuse others of not appreciating it. From your own link: "The only exception was if the seller actively concealed latent defects or otherwise made material misrepresentations amounting to fraud."

So where's the material misrepresentation? We're back to no concrete proof from either side, only accusations and conjecture. The responsibility remains squarely on the individual for now, scam or not.
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August 13, 2012, 08:06:40 PM
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FYI, I really hate scammers that try to infect my system, so I added this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=100503.0
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August 13, 2012, 08:50:24 PM
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There's also some buzz recently occurring with regard to the mining "bonds". Apparently only recently did some finally become aware that with these mh/s "bonds" that as long as difficulty goes up, the bond issuer never needs to buy any mining capacity whatsoever and could meet all dividend payments as agreed to simply by paying out from principal.   While not technically in the same category[edited] as a "ponzi", there hasn't been much in the way of vetting to ensure the mining operator truly had control of the expected mining capacity.

Thought I'ld cc: some links here in case anyone might care to see how that all works as well:

 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=98517.0
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=100303.0

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August 13, 2012, 09:44:32 PM
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I don't like where this discussion is going. Before we know it we are back at "BITCOIN IS A PONZI1111!!!!!".

I thought we were done with that  Sad

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August 13, 2012, 10:19:39 PM
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I don't like where this discussion is going. Before we know it we are back at "BITCOIN IS A PONZI1111!!!!!".

I thought we were done with that  Sad
If you don't want something brought up, why did you bring it up? There was basically zero chance the conversation was going to go that way, and there probably still is basically zero chance.

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August 13, 2012, 11:03:55 PM
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The micon system: jump off a cliff with a parachute and hope it works
The psy system: jump off a cliff with no parachute and hope pirate catches him (he says he can so that's good enough for you)

The clipse system: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts
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August 13, 2012, 11:09:42 PM
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While people in the forums would be impressed by seeing so many satisfied Currin Trading investors, the reverse could also take place. All along I had carefully kept my investors insulated from the outside world. By inviting them all into a forum thread, I would risk exposing them to the negative attitude of the forum skeptics, who would dissect my business unmercifully, revealing it to them as a pyramid scheme. I wouldn't be able to predict how many would fail to re-invest their isk. And, of course, I would have to give someone the prize money of a billion isk for free.

But still, I had an army at my disposal. Supposing most current and past investors showed up, I could field several dozen positive-thinking posters in that thread, overwhelming the skeptics. But a good impression needed to be established at once. Even if I got all of the investors to reply, they might first be drowned out by the hundreds of forum posters who would be sure to latch onto my scheme and rip it to shreds--even in the context of a friendly, free lottery.
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August 13, 2012, 11:10:53 PM
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This stuff never gets old Smiley

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August 13, 2012, 11:14:03 PM
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There's also some buzz recently occurring with regard to the mining "bonds". Apparently only recently did some finally become aware that with these mh/s "bonds" that as long as difficulty goes up, the bond issuer never needs to buy any mining capacity whatsoever and could meet all dividend payments as agreed to simply by paying out from principal.   While not technically a "ponzi", there hasn't been much in the way of vetting to ensure the mining operator truly had control of the expected mining capacity.

Thought I'ld cc: some links here in case anyone might care to see how that all works as well:

 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=98517.0
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=100303.0

So we can now add, in bulk, all mining bonds to the OP list of Ponzis.

Holy crap there is not a single investement that is not a Ponzi.

many BTC investment vehicles are scams on this board.  Yes, it is shocking how many.

I will investigate the Mining bonds as well.  I agree there is a good possibility of Ponzi in mining bonds, but as of now haven't investigated. 

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August 13, 2012, 11:17:25 PM
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you say words like investigate, but never like... show up with any results

Seriously, if you have anything else other than 1) "you don't know therefore ponzi" or 2) "omg 7% therefore ponzi" it would be good if it wasn't buried under those two piles of crap

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August 13, 2012, 11:21:44 PM
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I will investigate the Mining bonds as well.  I agree there is a good possibility of Ponzi in mining bonds, but as of now haven't investigated. 

By "investigate" you mean what exactly?
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August 13, 2012, 11:24:23 PM
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Cute that you added your sitepro stats, from 2007 to 2012 you earned the following per year before deducting any backing funds, this comes in most places far less than any minimum wage and you wonder why people in the poker community laugh at you calling yourself a pro.

2012   $ 32,832   $ 32,832 -> After backer fees this may aswell read $0.
2011   $ 65,596   $ 65,596 -> You cant afford slots with this yearly income so who did you scam to roll you for slot mastery ?
2010   $ 34,066   $ 34,066 -> After backer fees this is likely closer to $0 aswell, true champ.
2009   $ 77,287   $ 77,287 -> Great year, still far below any average educated job, must have gone on a diet this year.
2008   $ 30,419   $ 30,419 -> Not sure how you could afford your own home with this yearly income before taxes.
2007   $ 6,021   $ 6,021 -> deduct backer fees, I bet you ate sand this whole year, Im sure you dont want to be back in 2007.

Like I said before you may have been a decent player up till 2006 but I would guess mostly a lucky donk when competition was as easy as pie but since then it clearly shows you are anything but a surviving poker player.

If I cared more I would have traced down to the $0 on your tournament winnings. No need for me to even look at your sng winnings, thats all in the minus in recent years.

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August 13, 2012, 11:24:28 PM
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Please add the US Dollar to the #1 spot, as it is by FAR the largest ponzi scheme on planet earth. The only reason it is dragging out so long is that the perps are epic criminals with vast resources, plus they force the entire planet to use the USD.
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August 13, 2012, 11:57:14 PM
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Micon latching onto sealswithclubs remoinds me of bruce wagner and mybitcoin.

Now hes claiming hes an "owner" of seals.

 Cheesy

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