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July 24, 2012, 07:13:36 AM
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Sigh....have at it I guess....

Some people just dont know how to keep their mouths shut.

(gets popcorn)

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I encourage everybody to switch to p2pool.
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July 24, 2012, 07:18:35 AM
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Or at least one of his personalities he he he  Grin Grin Grin

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July 24, 2012, 07:21:09 AM
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Hey Coinhunter,

Place some SC on me, it might be the first time you ever made money on Solidcoin!

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LOL...your trolling is awesome....

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Hey Coinhunter,

Place some SC on me, it might be the first time you ever made money on Solidcoin!

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Give or take, I'm not CoinHunter.

I did made out with some nice Litecoin mining profits though. Grin Grin Grin

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July 24, 2012, 07:23:59 AM
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Hey Coinhunter,

Place some SC on me, it might be the first time you ever made money on Solidcoin!

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LOL...your trolling is awesome....


That's not trolling, that's fact.

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Yes you are right. But even when its true u still troll hahaha

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51%ing is not a challenge. It's undermining the safety of the network. Cryptocurrencies have enough trouble catching on as it is, and here comes an asshole who has nothing better to do than to challenge to fuck it up. In cyrptocircles this is a serious crime. It's the ultimate crime. Scammer tag should be applied just for this statement.Of course I hope you fail and lose tons of money.
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51%ing is not a challenge. It's undermining the safety of the network. Cryptocurrencies have enough trouble catching on as it is, and here comes an asshole who has nothing better to do than to challenge to fuck it up. In cyrptocircels this is a serious crime. It's the ultimate crime. Scammer tag should be applied just for this statement.Of course I hope you fail and lose tons of money.

I still think a planned attack with a future date should be set. This way stress testing LTC can be a healthy experience instead of some later party when LTC is worth much more gets demolished by some unknown party.

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Of course I hope you fail and lose tons of money.

Yes, if he ever fails, he will lose income from time his rigs aren't mining Bitcoin.

He probably makes a living mining Bitcoin and will be unable to pay his monthly expenses if the attack ever fails. Prepare to see him on the streets.

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Of course I bet you fail and lose tons of money.
FTFY

Haven't done the math but my bet is even if BTX is in the top10 BTC wealthy he wouldn't be afterwards.
Some clarification the threat is burst power from amazon EC2 not taking over the whole network permanently.
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This isn't personal at all but your fellow miners over at BTC-E are taking on some serious Solidcoin type attitudes.

The challenge has a been made and apparently support over there was with them on it, in making a challenge that I couldn't 51% LTC.

Nothing like that to give me reason to resurrect some serious GPU hashpower, build up some EC2's (keep in mind even Coinhunter verfied I had over 700 EC2's running at the SC2 launch), connect up with some botnetter friends and bring some BTC out of USB deep freeze for fees... LOL....

This is fair warning to all.

Challenge accepted.

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Seriously? Most of the guys chatting on BTC-E have been in Cryto like a week, tops. They are kids mouthing off asking questions like, "Can I get BFL ASIC to mine LTC?" or other such nonsense. Although it once was a good place to talk about the market, it's recently been inundated with a bunch of amateurs whining about how they can't get rich off of .002 BTC.

I understand you're angry but there are a lot of us in LTC that aren't the whinny bitches from the BTC-E chatroom who are working hard at LTC and trying to make something valuable. Don't let a buch of jerks push you over the edge, because really the same kids who are pissing you off, don't have anything to lose by the destruction of LTC. You 51% it, they'll lose their $1 shrug their shoulders and go outside to play in the backyard.

I think if you have that much GPU power it would be a more effective to add to the network, blow the difficulty through the roof and kick all the kids out. That way you have the best of both worlds- you screw the noobs from the chatroom by making it impossible for them to mine on their Asus EEE PC's, you support a real project that people really do care about (you say it's not personal at Coblee, but then why destroy something he, and many others, have worked so hard on?) and you can then mine a crapload of coins, dump them on the market, crash the price and walk away with a little treasure chest of BTC. It's really the best of all worlds, you'll screw the difficulty, crash the price, f*ck the noobs, prove that you have access to the power, and you don't have to destroy all our hard work all in one go.

Please?

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This isn't personal at all but your fellow miners over at BTC-E are taking on some serious Solidcoin type attitudes.

The challenge has a been made and apparently support over there was with them on it, in making a challenge that I couldn't 51% LTC.

Nothing like that to give me reason to resurrect some serious GPU hashpower, build up some EC2's (keep in mind even Coinhunter verfied I had over 700 EC2's running at the SC2 launch), connect up with some botnetter friends and bring some BTC out of USB deep freeze for fees... LOL....

This is fair warning to all.

Challenge accepted.

~BCX~




Seriously? Most of the guys chatting on BTC-E have been in Cryto like a week, tops. They are kids mouthing off asking questions like, "Can I get BFL ASIC to mine LTC?" or other such nonsense. Although it once was a good place to talk about the market, it's recently been inundated with a bunch of amateurs whining about how they can't get rich off of .002 BTC.

I understand you're angry but there are a lot of us in LTC that aren't the whinny bitches from the BTC-E chatroom who are working hard at LTC and trying to make something valuable. Don't let a buch of jerks push you over the edge, because really the same kids who are pissing you off, don't have anything to lose by the destruction of LTC. You 51% it, they'll lose their $1 shrug their shoulders and go outside to play in the backyard.

I think if you have that much GPU power it would be a more effective to add to the network, blow the difficulty through the roof and kick all the kids out. That way you have the best of both worlds- you screw the noobs from the chatroom by making it impossible for them to mine on their Asus EEE PC's, you support a real project that people really do care about (you say it's not personal at Coblee, but then why destroy something he, and many others, have worked so hard on?) and you can then mine a crapload of coins, dump them on the market, crash the price and walk away with a little treasure chest of BTC. It's really the best of all worlds, you'll screw the difficulty, crash the price, f*ck the noobs, prove that you have access to the power, and you don't have to destroy all our hard work all in one go.

Please?

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I would be a scammer if I made a promise and didn't deliver, I will.

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51%ing is not a challenge. It's undermining the safety of the network. Cryptocurrencies have enough trouble catching on as it is, and here comes an asshole who has nothing better to do than to challenge to fuck it up. In cyrptocircles this is a serious crime. It's the ultimate crime. Scammer tag should be applied just for this statement.Of course I hope you fail and lose tons of money.


Not too familiar with my success rates on hitting alt chains are you?

I would be a scammer if I made a promise and didn't deliver, I will.

Sadly I actually protected LTC in the early days with a huge amount of hash power to fend off 51% attacks by the Solidcoin crew. Over the course of the last year I've bought a couple thousand BTC of LTC to bump it up ahead of SC and keep prices stable.

But hey, looks like the LTC community needs an attitude adjustment.

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Bro your profile was made right after BCX had demolished many of the alt-chains.

Dont talk about what you dont know anything about.,.,.

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So is this possible? And if so what will happen to the ltc block chain?

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So is this possible? And if so what will happen to the ltc block chain?
It is possible to fork the chain temporary with power from amazon EC2, that would cost alot of USD to do, and it could not be sustained for a long amount of time.

The practical response would be to roll back the block chain to before the fork, resulting in all transactions and block rewards to be negated which happened after/during the event.

That said I doubt it would be worth it even if there are enough funds.
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So is this possible? And if so what will happen to the ltc block chain?

Sure it's possible, it's only between 400-600 gpus required. And thats not impossible to get ahold of. What will happen? People won't trust it anymore so they will sell and abandon it. Thats what will happen.

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51%ing is not a challenge. It's undermining the safety of the network. Cryptocurrencies have enough trouble catching on as it is, and here comes an asshole who has nothing better to do than to challenge to fuck it up. In cyrptocircles this is a serious crime. It's the ultimate crime. Scammer tag should be applied just for this statement.Of course I hope you fail and lose tons of money.


Not too familiar with my success rates on hitting alt chains are you?

I would be a scammer if I made a promise and didn't deliver, I will.

Sadly I actually protected LTC in the early days with a huge amount of hash power to fend off 51% attacks by the Solidcoin crew. Over the course of the last year I've bought a couple thousand BTC of LTC to bump it up ahead of SC and keep prices stable.

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So is this possible? And if so what will happen to the ltc block chain?
It is possible to fork the chain temporary with power from amazon EC2, that would cost alot of USD to do, and it could not be sustained for a long amount of time.

The practical response would be to roll back the block chain to before the fork, resulting in all transactions and block rewards to be negated which happened after/during the event.

That said I doubt it would be worth it even if there are enough funds.

Well it sounds pretty interesting, and even a bit impressive if one person can truly pull it off. I have no vested
interest in ltc and it would be a shame to see people lose out, but as an experiment I am genuinely intrigued.

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This isn't personal at all but your fellow miners over at BTC-E are taking on some serious Solidcoin type attitudes.

The challenge has a been made and apparently support over there was with them on it, in making a challenge that I couldn't 51% LTC.

Nothing like that to give me reason to resurrect some serious GPU hashpower, build up some EC2's (keep in mind even Coinhunter verfied I had over 700 EC2's running at the SC2 launch), connect up with some botnetter friends and bring some BTC out of USB deep freeze for fees... LOL....

This is fair warning to all.

Challenge accepted.

~BCX~

Seriously? Most of the guys chatting on BTC-E have been in Cryto like a week, tops. They are kids mouthing off asking questions like, "Can I get BFL ASIC to mine LTC?" or other such nonsense. Although it once was a good place to talk about the market, it's recently been inundated with a bunch of amateurs whining about how they can't get rich off of .002 BTC.

I understand you're angry but there are a lot of us in LTC that aren't the whinny bitches from the BTC-E chatroom who are working hard at LTC and trying to make something valuable. Don't let a buch of jerks push you over the edge, because really the same kids who are pissing you off, don't have anything to lose by the destruction of LTC. You 51% it, they'll lose their $1 shrug their shoulders and go outside to play in the backyard.

I think if you have that much GPU power it would be a more effective to add to the network, blow the difficulty through the roof and kick all the kids out. That way you have the best of both worlds- you screw the noobs from the chatroom by making it impossible for them to mine on their Asus EEE PC's, you support a real project that people really do care about (you say it's not personal at Coblee, but then why destroy something he, and many others, have worked so hard on?) and you can then mine a crapload of coins, dump them on the market, crash the price and walk away with a little treasure chest of BTC. It's really the best of all worlds, you'll screw the difficulty, crash the price, f*ck the noobs, prove that you have access to the power, and you don't have to destroy all our hard work all in one go.
Please?

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BCX, those "fellow miners" on BTC-e are probably SC cultists trying to rile you up. I'm surprised you let them get to you. If you are really going to attack Litecoin because of that, then I will lose all respect for you. You did help me fend off some attacks when Litecoin launched. IIRC, you told me that you thought Litecoin was a fair currency and you didn't want to see it destroyed by those SC scumbags. Has that changed? Why would you try to destroy something you helped protect early on?

But whatever. Do what you feel like you must do. If you didn't do it, someone else might come along and try it. At least you gave us fair warning.

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So is this possible? And if so what will happen to the ltc block chain?
It is possible to fork the chain temporary with power from amazon EC2, that would cost alot of USD to do, and it could not be sustained for a long amount of time.

The practical response would be to roll back the block chain to before the fork, resulting in all transactions and block rewards to be negated which happened after/during the event.

That said I doubt it would be worth it even if there are enough funds.

Well it sounds pretty interesting, and even a bit impressive if one person can truly pull it off. I have no vested
interest in ltc and it would be a shame to see people lose out, but as an experiment I am genuinely intrigued.

You are right.

On a metalevel yes. If it is profitable to bring down alternate blockchains using attack BTC could remain the only cryptocurrency of its kind.
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Well I guess the last thing we have to do is switch to solo/private pools and hope for the best.
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So is this possible? And if so what will happen to the ltc block chain?
It is possible to fork the chain temporary with power from amazon EC2, that would cost alot of USD to do, and it could not be sustained for a long amount of time.

The practical response would be to roll back the block chain to before the fork, resulting in all transactions and block rewards to be negated which happened after/during the event.

That said I doubt it would be worth it even if there are enough funds.

Well it sounds pretty interesting, and even a bit impressive if one person can truly pull it off. I have no vested
interest in ltc and it would be a shame to see people lose out, but as an experiment I am genuinely intrigued.

Not one person, I'll have to coordinate a few things with others. Coordination is my strength as well as having some pretty deep resources myself.

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So is this possible? And if so what will happen to the ltc block chain?
It is possible to fork the chain temporary with power from amazon EC2, that would cost alot of USD to do, and it could not be sustained for a long amount of time.

The practical response would be to roll back the block chain to before the fork, resulting in all transactions and block rewards to be negated which happened after/during the event.

That said I doubt it would be worth it even if there are enough funds.

Well it sounds pretty interesting, and even a bit impressive if one person can truly pull it off. I have no vested
interest in ltc and it would be a shame to see people lose out, but as an experiment I am genuinely intrigued.

You are right.

On a metalevel yes. If it is profitable to bring down alternate blockchains using attack BTC could remain the only cryptocurrency of its kind.

Luckily, BTC is convertible into fiat, too and can be left alone if one is bored of it. No 51% attack necessary.
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... having some pretty deep resources myself.
Unless you come up with some sort of business model to profit from it you wouldn't have them afterwards.
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This isn't personal at all but your fellow miners over at BTC-E are taking on some serious Solidcoin type attitudes.

The challenge has a been made and apparently support over there was with them on it, in making a challenge that I couldn't 51% LTC.

Nothing like that to give me reason to resurrect some serious GPU hashpower, build up some EC2's (keep in mind even Coinhunter verfied I had over 700 EC2's running at the SC2 launch), connect up with some botnetter friends and bring some BTC out of USB deep freeze for fees... LOL....

This is fair warning to all.

Challenge accepted.

~BCX~

Seriously? Most of the guys chatting on BTC-E have been in Cryto like a week, tops. They are kids mouthing off asking questions like, "Can I get BFL ASIC to mine LTC?" or other such nonsense. Although it once was a good place to talk about the market, it's recently been inundated with a bunch of amateurs whining about how they can't get rich off of .002 BTC.

I understand you're angry but there are a lot of us in LTC that aren't the whinny bitches from the BTC-E chatroom who are working hard at LTC and trying to make something valuable. Don't let a buch of jerks push you over the edge, because really the same kids who are pissing you off, don't have anything to lose by the destruction of LTC. You 51% it, they'll lose their $1 shrug their shoulders and go outside to play in the backyard.

I think if you have that much GPU power it would be a more effective to add to the network, blow the difficulty through the roof and kick all the kids out. That way you have the best of both worlds- you screw the noobs from the chatroom by making it impossible for them to mine on their Asus EEE PC's, you support a real project that people really do care about (you say it's not personal at Coblee, but then why destroy something he, and many others, have worked so hard on?) and you can then mine a crapload of coins, dump them on the market, crash the price and walk away with a little treasure chest of BTC. It's really the best of all worlds, you'll screw the difficulty, crash the price, f*ck the noobs, prove that you have access to the power, and you don't have to destroy all our hard work all in one go.
Please?

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BCX, those "fellow miners" on BTC-e are probably SC cultists trying to rile you up. I'm surprised you let them get to you. If you are really going to attack Litecoin because of that, then I will lose all respect for you. You did help me fend off some attacks when Litecoin launched. IIRC, you told me that you thought Litecoin was a fair currency and you didn't want to see it destroyed by those SC scumbags. Has that changed? Why would you try to destroy something you helped protect early on?

But whatever. Do what you feel like you must do. If you didn't do it, someone else might come along and try it. At least you gave us fair warning.

You clearly haven't been following the BTC-E chat. You go state one thing about SolidCoin, then they show their hatred towards it.

The "attitude" is typical teenage behavior. Since most of the Litecoin demographic are mostly teens (who didn't catch the Bitcoin train), you can expect the attitude. Also, its not a good idea to let teenagers run your Litecoin economy.

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... having some pretty deep resources myself.
Unless you come up with some sort of business model to profit from it you wouldn't have them afterwards.

Deep resources can be quite deep. There are lots of people out there with more resources then the market cap of BTC, FYI.

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... having some pretty deep resources myself.
Unless you come up with some sort of business model to profit from it you wouldn't have them afterwards.

Deep resources can be quite deep. There are lots of people out there with more resources then the market cap of BTC, FYI.
Yeah but that's not the point.
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wow what a fucking hero "someone in a shoutbox pissed me off, so now I am going out of my way to fuck over peoples good work"

some "community" we have.....

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So is this possible? And if so what will happen to the ltc block chain?
It is possible to fork the chain temporary with power from amazon EC2, that would cost alot of USD to do, and it could not be sustained for a long amount of time.

The practical response would be to roll back the block chain to before the fork, resulting in all transactions and block rewards to be negated which happened after/during the event.

That said I doubt it would be worth it even if there are enough funds.

Well it sounds pretty interesting, and even a bit impressive if one person can truly pull it off. I have no vested
interest in ltc and it would be a shame to see people lose out, but as an experiment I am genuinely intrigued.

Not one person, I'll have to coordinate a few things with others. Coordination is my strength as well as having some pretty deep resources myself.

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wow what a fucking hero "someone in a shoutbox pissed me off, so now I am going out of my way to fuck over peoples good work"

some "community" we have.....

Yeah, funny how his shenanigans don't work on Bitcoin. I wonder why...

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So is this possible? And if so what will happen to the ltc block chain?

Sure it's possible, it's only between 400-600 gpus required. And thats not impossible to get ahold of. What will happen? People won't trust it anymore so they will sell and abandon it. Thats what will happen.

Yes, it's possible. Not even bitcoin is immune from 51% attacks. Though with bitcoin it's much harder, but then someone with an ASIC can attack it if they wanted to. Satoshi did say that people would not try to 51% bitcoin, because if they had that much hash power, they would earn more money by mining it normally than by attacking it. This is true with Litecoin right now. If BCX used his hashpower to mine Litecoin, he would make more money than to try to do a double spend with a 51% attack.

If BCX is just going to fork the chain for 24 hours. Then what would happen is that all transactions within that 24 hours period would be reverted. And those transactions will then be replayed on the new forked chain if they are still applicable. If they cannot be replayed, then a double spend will happen. (Reminds me when I did a "git rebase" on the litecoin code just a few days ago and ran into a ton of merge conflicts.) Normally, only the attacker would be able to double spend his coins. Since no one else is aware of the attack and would be able to muck with his transactions to double spend them. But the double spend by the attacker will have ripple effects that would potentially invalidate a lot of other transactions.

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wow what a fucking hero "someone in a shoutbox pissed me off, so now I am going out of my way to fuck over peoples good work"

some "community" we have.....

Yeah, funny how his shenanigans don't work on Bitcoin. I wonder why...


I have way too many BTC and have been mining BTC since August of 2010, that's why.

I knew it must be an early adopter behind this. But it's one who's unfortunately fucked up in the head. BTC and LTC are in trouble.
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wow what a fucking hero "someone in a shoutbox pissed me off, so now I am going out of my way to fuck over peoples good work"

some "community" we have.....

Yeah, funny how his shenanigans don't work on Bitcoin. I wonder why...


I have way too many BTC and have been mining BTC since August of 2010, that's why.

You must have made your parents proud. You didn't have to become a doctor to bring in big bucks.

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August 2010 is not early enough to finance this endeavor. Even I found out about BTC at the time, to bad I didn't think much of it back then....

The point is: difficulty was already significant.
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So is this possible? And if so what will happen to the ltc block chain?

Sure it's possible, it's only between 400-600 gpus required. And thats not impossible to get ahold of. What will happen? People won't trust it anymore so they will sell and abandon it. Thats what will happen.

Yes, it's possible. Not even bitcoin is immune from 51% attacks. Though with bitcoin it's much harder, but then someone with an ASIC can attack it if they wanted to. Satoshi did say that people would not try to 51% bitcoin, because if they had that much hash power, they would earn more money by mining it normally than by attacking it. This is true with Litecoin right now. If BCX used his hashpower to mine Litecoin, he would make more money than to try to do a double spend with a 51% attack.

If BCX is just going to fork the chain for 24 hours. Then what would happen is that all transactions within that 24 hours period would be reverted. And those transactions will then be replayed on the new forked chain if they are still applicable. If they cannot be replayed, then a double spend will happen. (Reminds me when I did a "git rebase" on the litecoin code just a few days ago and ran into a ton of merge conflicts.) Normally, only the attacker would be able to double spend his coins. Since no one else is aware of the attack and would be able to muck with his transactions to double spend them. But the double spend by the attacker will have ripple effects that would potentially invalidate a lot of other transactions.

I think Litecoin needs some 51% protection right now. Oh wait...

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So is this possible? And if so what will happen to the ltc block chain?

Nothing much will happen to the LTC blockchain: if it's an attack with really huge hashpower then he can try to fork from an earlier block, but still it has to be a block after a checkpoint and not e.g. the genesis block. However, an attack from an earlier block is probably infeasible, because he'd have to compete with the hashpower that already did that work and then race with the current hashpower, so I suppose that instead he means forking from the current block. So while the attack takes place and he starts building the forked chain, he can deposit LTC to btc-e, trade them for BTC, withdraw the BTC, then broadcast his forked chain so the person he traded with who got the LTC will actually get nothing. Therefore, if everyone just doesn't trade on btc-e while the attack takes place, then there would be no victims of a double-spending attack, and the only thing that the attacker will gain is the 50 LTC block rewards in his forked chain (meaning that he'd earn the same amount of LTC by mining regularly instead of forking).
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So is this possible? And if so what will happen to the ltc block chain?

Sure it's possible, it's only between 400-600 gpus required. And thats not impossible to get ahold of. What will happen? People won't trust it anymore so they will sell and abandon it. Thats what will happen.

Yes, it's possible. Not even bitcoin is immune from 51% attacks. Though with bitcoin it's much harder, but then someone with an ASIC can attack it if they wanted to. Satoshi did say that people would not try to 51% bitcoin, because if they had that much hash power, they would earn more money by mining it normally than by attacking it. This is true with Litecoin right now. If BCX used his hashpower to mine Litecoin, he would make more money than to try to do a double spend with a 51% attack.

If BCX is just going to fork the chain for 24 hours. Then what would happen is that all transactions within that 24 hours period would be reverted. And those transactions will then be replayed on the new forked chain if they are still applicable. If they cannot be replayed, then a double spend will happen. (Reminds me when I did a "git rebase" on the litecoin code just a few days ago and ran into a ton of merge conflicts.) Normally, only the attacker would be able to double spend his coins. Since no one else is aware of the attack and would be able to muck with his transactions to double spend them. But the double spend by the attacker will have ripple effects that would potentially invalidate a lot of other transactions.

I think Litecoin needs some centralization right now. Oh wait...

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So is this possible? And if so what will happen to the ltc block chain?

Sure it's possible, it's only between 400-600 gpus required. And thats not impossible to get ahold of. What will happen? People won't trust it anymore so they will sell and abandon it. Thats what will happen.

Yes, it's possible. Not even bitcoin is immune from 51% attacks. Though with bitcoin it's much harder, but then someone with an ASIC can attack it if they wanted to. Satoshi did say that people would not try to 51% bitcoin, because if they had that much hash power, they would earn more money by mining it normally than by attacking it. This is true with Litecoin right now. If BCX used his hashpower to mine Litecoin, he would make more money than to try to do a double spend with a 51% attack.

If BCX is just going to fork the chain for 24 hours. Then what would happen is that all transactions within that 24 hours period would be reverted. And those transactions will then be replayed on the new forked chain if they are still applicable. If they cannot be replayed, then a double spend will happen. (Reminds me when I did a "git rebase" on the litecoin code just a few days ago and ran into a ton of merge conflicts.) Normally, only the attacker would be able to double spend his coins. Since no one else is aware of the attack and would be able to muck with his transactions to double spend them. But the double spend by the attacker will have ripple effects that would potentially invalidate a lot of other transactions.

I think Litecoin needs some centralization right now. Oh wait...

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August 2010 is not early enough to finance this endeavor. Even I found out about BTC at the time, to bad I didn't think much of it back then....

The point is: difficulty was already significant.

Difficulty in 2010 wasnt anything. I started in Early may of 2011 and I made bank with bitcoin mining.

BCX is right you dont have a clue what you are talking about.

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So is this possible? And if so what will happen to the ltc block chain?

Nothing much will happen to the LTC blockchain: if it's an attack with really huge hashpower then he can try to fork from an earlier block, but still it has to be a block after a checkpoint and not e.g. the genesis block. However, an attack from an earlier block is probably infeasible, because he'd have to compete with the hashpower that already did that work and then race with the current hashpower, so I suppose that instead he means forking from the current block. So while the attack takes place and he starts building the forked chain, he can deposit LTC to btc-e, trade them for BTC, withdraw the BTC, then broadcast his forked chain so the person he traded with who got the LTC will actually get nothing. Therefore, if everyone just doesn't trade on btc-e while the attack takes place, then there would be no victims of a double-spending attack, and the only thing that the attacker will gain is the 50 LTC block rewards in his forked chain (meaning that he'd earn the same amount of LTC by mining regularly instead of forking).

Exactly. But there's no way you can expect people to not trade on the exchanges. And if the exchange uses BCX's litecoins to pay out any withdrawals, those payments will be reverted when BCX's fork is announced. So in the end, some people will lose some coins. The loss of coins would be nothing compared to the Bitcoinica hack/theft/incompetence fiasco. But, it would be interesting to see what kind of effect this has on Litecoin. Would people rally behind it and put more hashpower into it to prevent further attacks? Or would people lose trust in the coin because another attack can happen any time in the future? I don't think it will kill Litecoin, but it will likely put a hurting on the price for some time, which may not be a bad thing in the long run.

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August 2010 is not early enough to finance this endeavor. Even I found out about BTC at the time, to bad I didn't think much of it back then....

The point is: difficulty was already significant.

I started mining when the diff was 352, I made a killing buying early on and selling at the peak.

Stick to things you know about from experience. Mining isn't the only way to make profit in Bitcoin.

And lemme guess you wrote your own gpu miner? IIRC those were only for sale.. not free.
With CPU a block a day or something.

But right I didn't mine at the time, were looking at the dollar value and thought it wasn't worth the hassle  Embarrassed
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August 2010 is not early enough to finance this endeavor. Even I found out about BTC at the time, to bad I didn't think much of it back then....

The point is: difficulty was already significant.

I started mining when the diff was 352, I made a killing buying early on and selling at the peak.

Stick to things you know about from experience. Mining isn't the only way to make profit in Bitcoin.

And lemme guess you wrote your own gpu miner? IIRC those were only for sale.. not free.
With CPU a block a day or something.

But right I didn't mine at the time, were looking at the dollar value and thought it wasn't worth the hassle  Embarrassed

Ever hear of a cluster or a botnet or a supercomputer?....all viable mining options back then

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Sadly I actually protected LTC in the early days with a huge amount of hash power to fend off 51% attacks by the Solidcoin crew. Over the course of the last year I've bought a couple thousand BTC of LTC to bump it up ahead of SC and keep prices stable.

But hey, looks like the LTC community needs an attitude adjustment.

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right if BTCX is what he/she/it/not sure speaks it would make sense to have had to own a botnet.

But I doubt even that. My guess is rented ddos+ec2==btcx's power
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Well, somebody with a big ltc investment might want to also buy a fuckton of EC2's and defend the blockchain. Just a thought
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Well, somebody with a big ltc investment might want to also buy a fuckton of EC2's and defend the blockchain. Just a thought

Or sell...

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Well, somebody with a big ltc investment might want to also buy a fuckton of EC2's and defend the blockchain. Just a thought

As stated in the AWS acceptable use policy of disallowed activities on their network:
Intentional Interference. Interfering with the proper functioning of any System, including any deliberate attempt to overload a system by mail bombing, news bombing, broadcast attacks, or flooding techniques.

Have fun tracking down one of BCX's instances. Also, this would be master debatable, clients following the longest block chain is by design, so I would argue his 51% attack would "[interfere] with the proper functioning of any System."

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And lemme guess you wrote your own gpu miner? IIRC those were only for sale.. not free.
With CPU a block a day or something.



Hey the dummy is finally getting a clue. I didn't write it, an engineer I work with did. It wasn't as good as ArtForz who had one first, but it did the trick!


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Just curious, do you think I have the ability and have any chance at success of 51% LTC...


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Of course. It's a lot harder than it was when Litecoin first came out. But you just have to DDoS all the pools, which we know you are capable of. Then while people are down, you throw a few hundred EC2 instances and a few hundred GPUs at it to fork a chain.

The best defense we have is to solo mine or use p2pool. That way a DDoS won't take all the miners down and it would require more resources to try to outpace the main network.

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Hey the dummy is finally getting a clue. I didn't write it, an engineer I work with did. It wasn't as good as ArtForz who had one first, but it did the trick!

Alright lets say you are speaking the truth: You would have to create significant selling pressure in the bitcoin market in order to pay for the ec2 rent. Added to that the BTC you sold are gone.

Even assuming that you can buy back some if you play the market right lower than you brought it down it would be nearly impossble to come out of it in the green.
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https://btc-e.com/exchange/ltc_btc

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*YAWN*

Is this attack gonna start soon or not ?

I am getting really tired of generating all of these VALID Solo Mined Blocks......

Current Network Hash Rate - 267,721 KH/s ...AND GROWING.

Let's see a Bitcoin Miner 51% that...LMAO

( I will make it simply - Your 300 MH/s BTC Mining HD5830 will struggle to do 290 KH/s while LTC mining.....DO THE MATH )

700 EC2s that hash like DOG SHIT, add another 5000 GPUs (perhaps 2500x 5970s, since you are OLD school) and you MIGHT have a chance.

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Thank you for the buying opportunity.
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Very interesting. One of these things will happen :

1. Attack is not successful but people will continue to sell many litecoins at cheap price now due to panic selling.
People that have BTC stock will buy loads of them because it's very cheap

2. Attack is successful.
A brand new alt coin will be created somewhere around October - December with promise to deal with this 10% attack.

3. People will switch to solo mining to protect the network
This will cause uncertainity, because you'll see Unknown suddenly has big hash power.
You don't know whether it's btc's buddy or people that protect litecoin network.

4. Trade will be stopped momentarily.
People will choose to wait and see, some will switch back to mine bitcoin, litecoin network will lose a lot of hash power.

5. People that invest and have bought many litecoin or people that still mine bitcoin with GPU and plan to switch in October will choose to protect the network.
Hash power will be bigger than before, and will strengthen the network even more.

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THREAT OF ATTACK WAS TO CAUSE PANIC AND PRICE CRASH, LEAVING CHEAP BUY ORDERS TO BE FILLED.

...and NOTHING more. He simply CAN NOT pull it off.

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Very interesting. One of these things will happen :

1. Attack is not successful but people will continue to sell many litecoins at cheap price now due to panic selling.
People that have BTC stock will buy loads of them because it's very cheap

2. Attack is successful.
A brand new alt coin will be created somewhere around October - December with promise to deal with this 10% attack.

3. People will switch to solo mining to protect the network
This will cause uncertainity, because you'll see Unknown suddenly has big hash power.
You don't know whether it's btc's buddy or people that protect litecoin network.

4. Trade will be stopped momentarily.
People will choose to wait and see, some will switch back to mine bitcoin, litecoin network will lose a lot of hash power.

5. People that invest and have bought many litecoin or people that still mine bitcoin with GPU and plan to switch in October will choose to protect the network.
Hash power will be bigger than before, and will strengthen the network even more.

6. Profit

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God help us, immature guys teaching kids a lesson.
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Meanwhile: a 51% attack will drive up difficulty through the roof

Once BTCXpress is done proving his point we are stuck with a high difficulty

People will lose interest and it will take weeks to get difficulty back down

Take a look at what happened to NMC last year, as soon as it became profitable to mine vs BTC difficulty would skyrocket... leaving regular NMC miners with the aftermath

Took 10 weeks to get through the next block-cycle last 2016 blocks before merged mining....

Just saying....
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so now the arguments against ltc phase starts.

*dingg*

ROUND 2
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THREAT OF ATTACK WAS TO CAUSE PANIC AND PRICE CRASH, LEAVING CHEAP BUY ORDERS TO BE FILLED.

...and NOTHING more. He simply CAN NOT pull it off.

Bitlane +1

I think you hit it right on the spot there, I dont think he'd be able to pull it off now with network hash at what it is... it must have been an attempt to lower the price. I wouldnt be suprised if the recent attacks on pools was these guys though, seems that their shitty resources are only capable at bringing one or two sites down...

We need to bring in the btc/ltc police and give these guys the death sentence for talking absolute poo-poo.

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*YAWN*

Is this attack gonna start soon or not ?

I am getting really tired of generating all of these VALID Solo Mined Blocks......

Current Network Hash Rate - 267,721 KH/s ...AND GROWING.

Let's see a Bitcoin Miner 51% that...LMAO

( I will make it simply - Your 300 MH/s BTC Mining HD5830 will struggle to do 290 KH/s while LTC mining.....DO THE MATH )

700 EC2s that hash like DOG SHIT, add another 5000 GPUs (perhaps 2500x 5970s, since you are OLD school) and you MIGHT have a chance.
The GPU ec2 instance has two ~70kh/s GPUs and two ~25kh/s CPUs, for 190kh/s total.  The current LTC hashrate is 234Mh/s.  Assuming that BCX currently controls NONE of this power, about 1230 instances are needed, which costs between $2580/hr (on demand @ $2.10/hr ea) to $426/hr (spot instances @ $0.346/hr ea).  This is also assuming that BCX has no GPUs, which is false.  Under 400 7970s could 51% LTC.

An attack is certainly viable.

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July 24, 2012, 11:23:52 AM
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How about people blocking amazon ec2 traffic.

It's war after all.

Also for even a simple fork 120 confirmations are needed, double that and you are at 10 hours minimum, and that with 50% chance of success,
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*YAWN*

Is this attack gonna start soon or not ?

I am getting really tired of generating all of these VALID Solo Mined Blocks......

Current Network Hash Rate - 267,721 KH/s ...AND GROWING.

Let's see a Bitcoin Miner 51% that...LMAO

( I will make it simply - Your 300 MH/s BTC Mining HD5830 will struggle to do 290 KH/s while LTC mining.....DO THE MATH )

700 EC2s that hash like DOG SHIT, add another 5000 GPUs (perhaps 2500x 5970s, since you are OLD school) and you MIGHT have a chance.
The GPU ec2 instance has two ~70kh/s GPUs and two ~25kh/s CPUs, for 190kh/s total.  The current LTC hashrate is 234Mh/s.  Assuming that BCX currently controls NONE of this power, about 1230 instances are needed, which costs between $2580/hr (on demand @ $2.10/hr ea) to $426/hr (spot instances @ $0.346/hr ea).  This is also assuming that BCX has no GPUs, which is false.  Under 400 7970s could 51% LTC.

An attack is certainly viable.

Unfortunately all this math is useless.  Under 400 7970s could 51% LTC? Don't think that the reaper and CgMiner are the most effective ones out there.
Less hardware is needed to attack than you think.
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Unfortunately all this math is useless.  Under 400 7970s could 51% LTC? Don't think that the reaper and CgMiner are the most effective ones out there.
Less hardware is needed to attack than you think.

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Pics or it didnt happen  Smiley

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*YAWN*

Is this attack gonna start soon or not ?

I am getting really tired of generating all of these VALID Solo Mined Blocks......

Current Network Hash Rate - 267,721 KH/s ...AND GROWING.

Let's see a Bitcoin Miner 51% that...LMAO

( I will make it simply - Your 300 MH/s BTC Mining HD5830 will struggle to do 290 KH/s while LTC mining.....DO THE MATH )

700 EC2s that hash like DOG SHIT, add another 5000 GPUs (perhaps 2500x 5970s, since you are OLD school) and you MIGHT have a chance.
The GPU ec2 instance has two ~70kh/s GPUs and two ~25kh/s CPUs, for 190kh/s total.  The current LTC hashrate is 234Mh/s.  Assuming that BCX currently controls NONE of this power, about 1230 instances are needed, which costs between $2580/hr (on demand @ $2.10/hr ea) to $426/hr (spot instances @ $0.346/hr ea).  This is also assuming that BCX has no GPUs, which is false.  Under 400 7970s could 51% LTC.

An attack is certainly viable.

Unfortunately all this math is useless.  Under 400 7970s could 51% LTC? Don't think that the reaper and CgMiner are the most effective ones out there.
Less hardware is needed to attack than you think.
I used pessimistic estimates as I was responding to a claim that a 51% was difficult and "700 EC2 instances ... add another 5000 GPUs ... and you MIGHT have a chance"

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*YAWN*

Is this attack gonna start soon or not ?

I am getting really tired of generating all of these VALID Solo Mined Blocks......

Current Network Hash Rate - 267,721 KH/s ...AND GROWING.

Let's see a Bitcoin Miner 51% that...LMAO

( I will make it simply - Your 300 MH/s BTC Mining HD5830 will struggle to do 290 KH/s while LTC mining.....DO THE MATH )

700 EC2s that hash like DOG SHIT, add another 5000 GPUs (perhaps 2500x 5970s, since you are OLD school) and you MIGHT have a chance.
The GPU ec2 instance has two ~70kh/s GPUs and two ~25kh/s CPUs, for 190kh/s total.  The current LTC hashrate is 234Mh/s.  Assuming that BCX currently controls NONE of this power, about 1230 instances are needed, which costs between $2580/hr (on demand @ $2.10/hr ea) to $426/hr (spot instances @ $0.346/hr ea).  This is also assuming that BCX has no GPUs, which is false.  Under 400 7970s could 51% LTC.

An attack is certainly viable.

Unfortunately all this math is useless.  Under 400 7970s could 51% LTC? Don't think that the reaper and CgMiner are the most effective ones out there.
Less hardware is needed to attack than you think.
I used pessimistic estimates as I was responding to a claim that a 51% was difficult and "700 EC2 instances ... add another 5000 GPUs ... and you MIGHT have a chance"

Of course he/she won't pull it off. LTC network is strong enough to say: "Screw you BitcoinEXpress!"
BCX you can sing about 400MH power but your sad song is not loud enough to make me dump a single Litecoin. I would rather find orphan blocks for the next 30 days than please you!
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So is this possible? And if so what will happen to the ltc block chain?
It is possible to fork the chain temporary with power from amazon EC2, that would cost alot of USD to do, and it could not be sustained for a long amount of time.

The practical response would be to roll back the block chain to before the fork, resulting in all transactions and block rewards to be negated which happened after/during the event.

That said I doubt it would be worth it even if there are enough funds.

Well it sounds pretty interesting, and even a bit impressive if one person can truly pull it off. I have no vested
interest in ltc and it would be a shame to see people lose out, but as an experiment I am genuinely intrigued.

Not one person, I'll have to coordinate a few things with others. Coordination is my strength as well as having some pretty deep resources myself.

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This isn't personal at all but your fellow miners over at BTC-E are taking on some serious Solidcoin type attitudes.

The challenge has a been made and apparently support over there was with them on it, in making a challenge that I couldn't 51% LTC.

Nothing like that to give me reason to resurrect some serious GPU hashpower, build up some EC2's (keep in mind even Coinhunter verfied I had over 700 EC2's running at the SC2 launch), connect up with some botnetter friends and bring some BTC out of USB deep freeze for fees... LOL....

This is fair warning to all.

Challenge accepted.

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Standard shorter tactics:

    1. Badmouth the security
    2. Announce a major negative event for it
    3. Crash the price
    4. Buy a ton when it's worth nothing.

And y'all are swallowing the whole thing hook line and sinker.



yeah, i just bought everything up to .006 again. thanks for helping me get some coins!   Smiley

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This isn't personal at all but your fellow miners over at BTC-E are taking on some serious Solidcoin type attitudes.

The challenge has a been made and apparently support over there was with them on it, in making a challenge that I couldn't 51% LTC.

Nothing like that to give me reason to resurrect some serious GPU hashpower, build up some EC2's (keep in mind even Coinhunter verfied I had over 700 EC2's running at the SC2 launch), connect up with some botnetter friends and bring some BTC out of USB deep freeze for fees... LOL....

This is fair warning to all.

Challenge accepted.

~BCX~




All I can say is...
The lack of attention disorder is related to autism. The disorder is common and creates problems for the community and BitcoinEXpress.
People like BCX with a lack of attention disorder are continuously restless and impulsive. You should go and find help.
When you ruin something that others have built, how does it make you feel? Proud? Like you achieved something?
Go and do something nice, decorate your house, have kids, have fun and be happy.
If you really think that you are doing the right thing. Then get a move on!
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i sent luke jr 1337 ltc to his personal wallet...

unrelated to this post but to this thread...  http://pastebin.com/dNRymrae

Can I have 13.37 LTC as memorial of this major event ? Smiley

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@Coblee


This isn't personal at all but your fellow miners over at BTC-E are taking on some serious Solidcoin type attitudes.

The challenge has a been made and apparently support over there was with them on it, in making a challenge that I couldn't 51% LTC.

Nothing like that to give me reason to resurrect some serious GPU hashpower, build up some EC2's (keep in mind even Coinhunter verfied I had over 700 EC2's running at the SC2 launch), connect up with some botnetter friends and bring some BTC out of USB deep freeze for fees... LOL....

This is fair warning to all.

Challenge accepted.

~BCX~




All I can say is...
The lack of attention disorder is related to autism. The disorder is common and creates problems for the community and BitcoinEXpress.
People like BCX with a lack of attention disorder are continuously restless and impulsive. You should go and find help.
When you ruin something that others have built, how does it make you feel? Proud? Like you achieved something?
Go and do something nice, decorate your house, have kids, have fun and be happy.
If you really think that you are doing the right thing. Then get a move on!



Having Austism is not an excuse to be an asshole  Smiley

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last chance to buy before we have ignition..

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51%ing is not a challenge. It's undermining the safety of the network. Cryptocurrencies have enough trouble catching on as it is, and here comes an asshole who has nothing better to do than to challenge to fuck it up. In cyrptocircles this is a serious crime. It's the ultimate crime. Scammer tag should be applied just for this statement.Of course I hope you fail and lose tons of money.


Not too familiar with my success rates on hitting alt chains are you?

I would be a scammer if I made a promise and didn't deliver, I will.

Sadly I actually protected LTC in the early days with a huge amount of hash power to fend off 51% attacks by the Solidcoin crew. Over the course of the last year I've bought a couple thousand BTC of LTC to bump it up ahead of SC and keep prices stable.

But hey, looks like the LTC community needs an attitude adjustment.

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DO ITTTT!!!!! Mwhahahahaaa!
I think it would be Good For The World if his 51% attack succeds.
It will proove that it can happen to bitcoin, And it will proove that "I can kill all your monies"

Fwiw Im not aware of any 51% attack that Ever worked = all bark no bite

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51%ing is not a challenge. It's undermining the safety of the network. Cryptocurrencies have enough trouble catching on as it is, and here comes an asshole who has nothing better to do than to challenge to fuck it up. In cyrptocircles this is a serious crime. It's the ultimate crime. Scammer tag should be applied just for this statement.Of course I hope you fail and lose tons of money.


Not too familiar with my success rates on hitting alt chains are you?

I would be a scammer if I made a promise and didn't deliver, I will.

Sadly I actually protected LTC in the early days with a huge amount of hash power to fend off 51% attacks by the Solidcoin crew. Over the course of the last year I've bought a couple thousand BTC of LTC to bump it up ahead of SC and keep prices stable.

But hey, looks like the LTC community needs an attitude adjustment.

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DO ITTTT!!!!!

Yeah, do it! I hope you are not running away and coming back with all sorts of excuses.
Put your resources where your mouth is! Get it done!
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Of course. It's a lot harder than it was when Litecoin first came out. But you just have to DDoS all the pools, which we know you are capable of. Then while people are down, you throw a few hundred EC2 instances and a few hundred GPUs at it to fork a chain.

The best defense we have is to solo mine or use p2pool. That way a DDoS won't take all the miners down and it would require more resources to try to outpace the main network.


@Bitlane

You know I can and I will.

@Coblee

I love how everyone else is more of an expert than you on LTC and just don't have the faith.

The timing of the attack will be as follows.

It will take me a couple of days to coordinate the herders, test DDoS defense and build that many EC2's.
Looking for this Friday or early Saturday.The attack will last for several days and after a couple of resets, I intend to drive the difficulty to all time highs, then simply quit. NMC hell all over again.

No coin that has been 51% attacked has ever recovered it confidence level.

~BCX~

whats wrong with u? are u lacking in selfconfidence... just shouting for attention... such a tit... ur momma shud be ashamed

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whats wrong with u? are u lacking in selfconfidence... just shouting for attention... such a tit... ur momma shud be ashamed

Let's stay on an abstract level without any personal insults. BCX gives us a favor doing free testing of LTC network.
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@ BitcoinEXpress
You, my Friend, are an Asshole.

Didn't your Mom teach you that its rude to break other Kid's toys ?

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I intend to drive the difficulty to all time highs, then simply quit.

~BCX~

Looks to me that you have conceded to the fact that you don't have a hope in hell of a 51% attack and are changing your tune slightly here....

So which is it ? a 51% attack or simply an attempt to drive up difficulty ?

if you are unable to perform a fork and 51% attack, then the WORST you could do is double difficulty (for a VERY short time, till you go broke) and the nice thing about Litecoin is the FAST block Rate and Retarget times.

This is still a joke to me...lol

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I intend to drive the difficulty to all time highs, then simply quit.

~BCX~

Looks to me that you have conceded to the fact that you don't have a hope in hell of a 51% attack and are changing your tune slightly here....

So which is it ? a 51% attack or simply an attempt to drive up difficulty ?

if you are unable to perform a fork and 51% attack, then the WORST you could do is double difficulty (for a VERY short time, till you go broke) and the nice thing about Litecoin is the FAST block Rate and Retarget times.

This is still a joke to me...lol

again bitlane +1... talking sense

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Yeah, changing the story. Next week we'll be hearing stories how he/she was testing the network. LOL. Cheesy
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Read though this whole thing and all I can say is the OP is such a man-child.

Wow dude, grow up.


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Get a life.
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not sure of the exact methods planned but attacking peoples computers is illegal in many countries
http://www.technicallylegal.org/the-legality-of-denial-of-service-attacks/ relates to the US
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In terms of criminal violations, there’s the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (the “CFAA”), which prohibits a person from “knowingly caus[ing] the transmission of a program, information code, or command, and as a result of such conduct, intentionally causes damages without authorization to a protected computer” (see 18 U.S.C. § 1030(a)(5)(A)). The requisite “damage” element under the CFAA is “any impairment to the integrity or availability of data, a program, a system, or information” (see 18 U.S.C. § 1030(e)(Cool) and a “protected computer” is defined as a computer “which is used in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, including a computer located outside the United States that is used in a manner that affects interstate or foreign commerce or communication” (see 18 U.S.C. § 1030(e)(2)(B)).

but ppl that get upset over what goes on in a shoutbox probably think that wont relate to them...

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not sure of the exact methods planned but attacking peoples computers is illegal in many countries
http://www.technicallylegal.org/the-legality-of-denial-of-service-attacks/ relates to the US
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In terms of criminal violations, there’s the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (the “CFAA”), which prohibits a person from “knowingly caus[ing] the transmission of a program, information code, or command, and as a result of such conduct, intentionally causes damages without authorization to a protected computer” (see 18 U.S.C. § 1030(a)(5)(A)). The requisite “damage” element under the CFAA is “any impairment to the integrity or availability of data, a program, a system, or information” (see 18 U.S.C. § 1030(e)(Cool) and a “protected computer” is defined as a computer “which is used in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, including a computer located outside the United States that is used in a manner that affects interstate or foreign commerce or communication” (see 18 U.S.C. § 1030(e)(2)(B)).

but ppl that get upset over what goes on in a shoutbox probably think that wont relate to them...

I was thinking he would crash using a botnet.

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not sure of the exact methods planned but attacking peoples computers is illegal in many countries
http://www.technicallylegal.org/the-legality-of-denial-of-service-attacks/ relates to the US
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In terms of criminal violations, there’s the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (the “CFAA”), which prohibits a person from “knowingly caus[ing] the transmission of a program, information code, or command, and as a result of such conduct, intentionally causes damages without authorization to a protected computer” (see 18 U.S.C. § 1030(a)(5)(A)). The requisite “damage” element under the CFAA is “any impairment to the integrity or availability of data, a program, a system, or information” (see 18 U.S.C. § 1030(e)(Cool) and a “protected computer” is defined as a computer “which is used in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, including a computer located outside the United States that is used in a manner that affects interstate or foreign commerce or communication” (see 18 U.S.C. § 1030(e)(2)(B)).

but ppl that get upset over what goes on in a shoutbox probably think that wont relate to them...

Did BCX ever claim to be a US citizen, or even live there ?

If he didn't, how relevant is all that verbiage ?


It makes no difference where you at. If someone from France hacked banks located in the US, then the yanks will go after the hacker, drag him to the US and prosecute him there.

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I find it sad that all the work towards Litecoin made by the people around here will go to waste. Especially since it was an honorable attempt for a cryptocurrency, not trying to scam or destroy Bitcoin, but simply to complement it.

I don't see the point. It's a complete waste of time for BCX, because nobody will benefit from this. Not BCX, not the developers, not the community, nobody.
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not sure of the exact methods planned but attacking peoples computers is illegal in many countries
http://www.technicallylegal.org/the-legality-of-denial-of-service-attacks/ relates to the US
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In terms of criminal violations, there’s the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (the “CFAA”), which prohibits a person from “knowingly caus[ing] the transmission of a program, information code, or command, and as a result of such conduct, intentionally causes damages without authorization to a protected computer” (see 18 U.S.C. § 1030(a)(5)(A)). The requisite “damage” element under the CFAA is “any impairment to the integrity or availability of data, a program, a system, or information” (see 18 U.S.C. § 1030(e)(Cool) and a “protected computer” is defined as a computer “which is used in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, including a computer located outside the United States that is used in a manner that affects interstate or foreign commerce or communication” (see 18 U.S.C. § 1030(e)(2)(B)).

but ppl that get upset over what goes on in a shoutbox probably think that wont relate to them...

Did BCX ever claim to be a US citizen, or even live there ?

If he didn't, how relevant is all that verbiage ?


Very relevant.  If I get hit by a ddos, I will turn it over to the feds.  And yes unless he lives in IRAN he will be brought to the US on those charges.

Good Luck though.
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@Coblee


This isn't personal at all but your fellow miners over at BTC-E are taking on some serious Solidcoin type attitudes.

The challenge has a been made and apparently support over there was with them on it, in making a challenge that I couldn't 51% LTC.

Nothing like that to give me reason to resurrect some serious GPU hashpower, build up some EC2's (keep in mind even Coinhunter verfied I had over 700 EC2's running at the SC2 launch), connect up with some botnetter friends and bring some BTC out of USB deep freeze for fees... LOL....

This is fair warning to all.

Challenge accepted.

~BCX~

Standard shorter tactics:

    1. Badmouth the security
    2. Announce a major negative event for it
    3. Crash the price
    4. Buy a ton when it's worth nothing.

And y'all are swallowing the whole thing hook line and sinker.



yeah, i just bought everything up to .006 again. thanks for helping me get some coins!   Smiley

I hope you realize right now you're not getting anything really cheap at all...especially if the price falls and people sell...

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not sure of the exact methods planned but attacking peoples computers is illegal in many countries
http://www.technicallylegal.org/the-legality-of-denial-of-service-attacks/ relates to the US
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In terms of criminal violations, there’s the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (the “CFAA”), which prohibits a person from “knowingly caus[ing] the transmission of a program, information code, or command, and as a result of such conduct, intentionally causes damages without authorization to a protected computer” (see 18 U.S.C. § 1030(a)(5)(A)). The requisite “damage” element under the CFAA is “any impairment to the integrity or availability of data, a program, a system, or information” (see 18 U.S.C. § 1030(e)(Cool) and a “protected computer” is defined as a computer “which is used in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, including a computer located outside the United States that is used in a manner that affects interstate or foreign commerce or communication” (see 18 U.S.C. § 1030(e)(2)(B)).

but ppl that get upset over what goes on in a shoutbox probably think that wont relate to them...

Did BCX ever claim to be a US citizen, or even live there ?

If he didn't, how relevant is all that verbiage ?


It makes no difference where you at. If someone from France hacked banks located in the US, then the yanks will go after the hacker, drag him to the US and prosecute him there.



But, if the authorities don't think you are big and bad enough to drag you from one country to another then...
What happens when a lengthy, highly technical investigation shows that the cybercriminals are located in a foreign country? The only way to bring them to court is to cooperate with foreign law enforcement authorities. But what if these foreign law enforcement authorities do not want to collaborate, or do not have the technical capabilities to assist the investigators? Unfortunately, this type of case scenario happens all the time. This poses a major challenge to the prosecution of cybercrime and there does not seem to be any magical solution other than international cooperation. Cybercrime is a transnational crime, and solving the issue of cyber jurisdiction requires nations to work on harmonizing substantive laws and fostering cooperation between law enforcement agencies worldwide. Indeed, the Interpol (International Police Force) has a plan for international cooperation against crime, including cybercrime, that most countries have joined.
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July 24, 2012, 06:19:10 PM
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@Coblee


This isn't personal at all but your fellow miners over at BTC-E are taking on some serious Solidcoin type attitudes.

The challenge has a been made and apparently support over there was with them on it, in making a challenge that I couldn't 51% LTC.

Nothing like that to give me reason to resurrect some serious GPU hashpower, build up some EC2's (keep in mind even Coinhunter verfied I had over 700 EC2's running at the SC2 launch), connect up with some botnetter friends and bring some BTC out of USB deep freeze for fees... LOL....

This is fair warning to all.

Challenge accepted.

~BCX~

Standard shorter tactics:

    1. Badmouth the security
    2. Announce a major negative event for it
    3. Crash the price
    4. Buy a ton when it's worth nothing.

And y'all are swallowing the whole thing hook line and sinker.



yeah, i just bought everything up to .006 again. thanks for helping me get some coins!   Smiley

I hope you realize right now you're not getting anything really cheap at all...especially if the price falls and people sell...

First of all some asshat is not going to destroy my confidence in LTC.  I will continue to buy even if it tanks back to 0 and will weather the storm.  Don't see how he'll gain anything though.  Other than maybe federal charges.
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July 24, 2012, 07:23:05 PM
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not sure of the exact methods planned but attacking peoples computers is illegal in many countries
http://www.technicallylegal.org/the-legality-of-denial-of-service-attacks/ relates to the US
one snippet
In terms of criminal violations, there’s the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (the “CFAA”), which prohibits a person from “knowingly caus[ing] the transmission of a program, information code, or command, and as a result of such conduct, intentionally causes damages without authorization to a protected computer” (see 18 U.S.C. § 1030(a)(5)(A)). The requisite “damage” element under the CFAA is “any impairment to the integrity or availability of data, a program, a system, or information” (see 18 U.S.C. § 1030(e)(Cool) and a “protected computer” is defined as a computer “which is used in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, including a computer located outside the United States that is used in a manner that affects interstate or foreign commerce or communication” (see 18 U.S.C. § 1030(e)(2)(B)).

but ppl that get upset over what goes on in a shoutbox probably think that wont relate to them...

Did BCX ever claim to be a US citizen, or even live there ?

If he didn't, how relevant is all that verbiage ?


Very relevant.  If I get hit by a ddos, I will turn it over to the feds.  And yes unless he lives in IRAN he will be brought to the US on those charges.

Good Luck though.

You vastly over-estimated the leverage the US
actually has over other sovereign nations.

If the nation in question is the UK, then yes, perhaps,
they having been the poodle on the US lap for quite
a while now. Not so for the rest of the world.


Of course, most likely no one will be dragged from one country to another cause he/she attacked pools.
If your pool is located in the US and the attacker is located in the EU, the authorities will work together but its going to be hell of a long process.
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It might be a catch 22.
If BCX succeeds and destroys Litecoin, then good luck proving damages. The coin was not viable and therefore without value.
If BCX fails, no damage occurs and thus no plane ticket to Gitmo from our jackboots.

P.S. no wonder SoiledCoin development ground to a halt, Groinhunter spends all his time here trolling threads instead of coding.

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It might be a catch 22.
If BCX succeeds and destroys Litecoin, then good luck proving damages. The coin was not viable and therefore without value.
If BCX fails, no damage occurs and thus no plane ticket to Gitmo from our jackboots.

P.S. no wonder SoiledCoin development ground to a halt, Groinhunter spends all his time here trolling threads instead of coding.

LTC isn't getting destroyed.  The price may crash temporarily but that just enriches me in the long run as I'll just stop mining and start buying from all the BTC I've all ready made.  Not to mention there are big names in BTC heavily invested in LTC already.  It's not going anywhere.

I will take it personally though.  I will go after those who willingly try to destroy my investments.  He better not be in the US or any of his "help" better not be.  That's all I have to say.
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Looking for this Friday or early Saturday.The attack will last for several days and after a couple of resets, I intend to drive the difficulty to all time highs, then simply quit. NMC hell all over again.

That's inaccurate: the Litecoin retarget window is 3.5 days, unlike Bitcoin/Namecoin 14 days, so if the difficulty shoots up then it should take 4x less time (compared to what happened with Namecoin) to return to normal.
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I understand the controversy, but succeed or fail, this attempt will be good for us. If he breaks it then it's better him than a crook. If he fails we can all have more confidence that our money is secure.

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Dear BCX,

we have lots of nice people here. As we can see, you are just wasting your time and won't do any good.
If you have hit your "Stress-Meter" limiter, we understand. Bad monkeys are jumping on your brain and you are losing it.
Maybe we should buy you a box of chocolates and let you cool down...
How's that?
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Why not pull off some double-spends while you're at it? Send LTC to the exchanges, sell for BTC or USD, mine some blocks spending it back to yourself... you might as well take out all the bids.

I recommend asking me for a signature from my GPG key before doing a trade. I will NEVER deny such a request.
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I understand the controversy, but succeed or fail, this attempt will be good for us. If he breaks it then it's better him than a crook. If he fails we can all have more confidence that our money is secure.

If he does ddos that does make him a crook.
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I understand the controversy, but succeed or fail, this attempt will be good for us. If he breaks it then it's better him than a crook. If he fails we can all have more confidence that our money is secure.

If he does ddos that does make him a crook.
I thought he was not going to double spend or create blocks, etc. That would be crooked. And yes, a better way would be to do this quietly with the help of developers.

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It might be a catch 22.
If BCX succeeds and destroys Litecoin, then good luck proving damages. The coin was not viable and therefore without value.
If BCX fails, no damage occurs and thus no plane ticket to Gitmo from our jackboots.

P.S. no wonder SoiledCoin development ground to a halt, Groinhunter spends all his time here trolling threads instead of coding.

LTC isn't getting destroyed.  The price may crash temporarily but that just enriches me in the long run as I'll just stop mining and start buying from all the BTC I've all ready made.  Not to mention there are big names in BTC heavily invested in LTC already.  It's not going anywhere.

I will take it personally though.  I will go after those who willingly try to destroy my investments.  He better not be in the US or any of his "help" better not be.  That's all I have to say.

But is your "investment" worth anything if it turns out there is a serious flaw (hypothetical) that renders LTC nonviable? If there is a flaw in the core protocol of LTC, wasn't the damage "done" by the creators of LTC? In that case BTCXpress is just the messenger.

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Lulz. Lookz at what I made:
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He speaks so formaly...as if though he were a mature adult. But his actions, does he not realise how immature his actions are?!?!

Is humanity capable of producing such stupidity!!!!

Oh yah, it is. Isn't this such a great world we live in.  Cry
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I don't know why nobody has reported you to the feds. This is some bullshit, and you're fucked in the head! kthxbai!


This guy will testify at your trial... LOL....


Your petition has douch bag written all over it..... Do you believe all the shit you read online?


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Oh. eek. Big mighty bitcoin miner no likey litecoins and wanna kill 'em.

Yeah - good luck undermining the confidence in litecoin. Asshat.

Just like any other so-called "terrorist" - you suck at your job BCX. No one is the least bit scared that your attack will matter.

We await the lulz, fool - prepare to be separated from your money.

I hope you get luke to separate himself from his money too.

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LOL, there isn't anything illegal about deploying hashrate in excess of 50.1%. It's not my fault that that the flaw even exist.

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So then do it.  Stop talking as it's cheap.  Let's see action.
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I oppose these suggestions of using the law to stop BCX, especially arresting her. Are we going to cry to daddy every time someone doesn't play fair? What does that say about cryptocoin security, or its viability as a replacement for government-run currencies? Would you rather wait until the banks come after us and the cops are on their side?

As for DDoSing pools, GREAT! Stop using big pools already!

This is a free market, bitches. Either pay for your own security or make room for someone who does. If I were a Litecoin holder, I would start a fundraiser to send really high transaction fees this weekend.
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If few shit birds in BTC-E can get you so worked up, you must be the weakest and most pathetic creature ever existed. LOL!
BCX, use your moms permanent marker and write this on your forehead:
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July 24, 2012, 09:04:23 PM
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Why would he be in legal trouble for a 51% attack? Luke had some fun and was not sent to a compulsory rectum treatment facility IIRC.

Unless he DDoSes a pool (remember LOIC script-kiddie users who got arrested) I don't see a reason to take such serious measures.
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This thread has turned into personal attacks. Can we please get back on topic and stop calling each other "fags" and referring to one another "penises".
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July 24, 2012, 09:31:05 PM
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Simran why is the guy in your avatar picture so angry?

Pissed off he's got such a small dick?

I thought you were going away...be gone...

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Unforchantly many idiots have nothing else in there life but the internet. Being they are accepted by no one on the internet, they must troll to fulfill there needs for social interaction.

Simran your avatar is fine  Tongue Let the trolls be.
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BitcoinEXpress take his phone and smash through coblee's skull
BitcoinEXpress kill every node on Litecoin's whole chain
BitcoinEXpress not going to take shit anymore
BitcoinEXpress not corporate drone! BitcoinEXpress corporate take over!
%51 of network BitcoinEXpress own!
BitcoinEXpress in charge now!
BitcoinEXpress big boss man! BitcoinEXpress say what allowed!
BitcoinEXpress take a break, turn his bitcoin miners back on..
BitcoinEXpress story done, BitcoinEXpress fatigued
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I oppose these suggestions of using the law to stop BCX, especially arresting her. Are we going to cry to daddy every time someone doesn't play fair? What does that say about cryptocoin security, or its viability as a replacement for government-run currencies? Would you rather wait until the banks come after us and the cops are on their side?

As for DDoSing pools, GREAT! Stop using big pools already!

This is a free market, bitches. Either pay for your own security or make room for someone who does. If I were a Litecoin holder, I would start a fundraiser to send really high transaction fees this weekend.
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What is clear here is the mistake lies in the protocol itself indeed. Not litecoin protocol but bitcoin. Weak personalities like you should have never be allowed gather so much power being an early adopter of bitcoin. You hypocritical human are taking the best of crypto that made you rich by pure chance, decentrality and are flushing it down the toilet.

I really hope you get your ass kicked real deep. Insofar, thank you for the redistribution of wealth to the general mining public.
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July 24, 2012, 11:06:35 PM
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your a disgrace to the bitcoin community

litecoin was made to be silver to bitcoins gold

not compete against it.
       
                and trading ltc to bitcoin and bitcoin to litecoin has helped the bitcoin economics and helped the bitcoin price and helped make more demand for     
                bitcoin
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your a disgrace to the bitcoin community

litecoin was made to be silver to bitcoins gold

not compete against it.
       
                and trading ltc to bitcoin and bitcoin to litecoin has helped the bitcoin economics and helped the bitcoin price and helped make more demand for     
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Ya abbeytim..

It's helped make a new scam to go with Bitcoin's original ponzi scam..
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I wonder if this is considered cyber terrorism ?

http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx  is the relevent authority to report it too as I believe BCX is in the US.

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LOL, there isn't anything illegal about deploying hashrate in excess of 50.1%. It's not my fault that that the flaw even exist.

~BCX~

You are also ddosing websites which is illegal.

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LOL, there isn't anything illegal about deploying hashrate in excess of 50.1%. It's not my fault that that the flaw even exist.

~BCX~

You are also ddosing websites which is illegal.

And if he dumps fake coins on the market and takes my btc it's fraud/theft.

So good luck with all of that.
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I oppose these suggestions of using the law to stop BCX, especially arresting her. Are we going to cry to daddy every time someone doesn't play fair? What does that say about cryptocoin security, or its viability as a replacement for government-run currencies? Would you rather wait until the banks come after us and the cops are on their side?

As for DDoSing pools, GREAT! Stop using big pools already!

This is a free market, bitches. Either pay for your own security or make room for someone who does. If I were a Litecoin holder, I would start a fundraiser to send really high transaction fees this weekend.
+1

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i am a holder of LTC and like the currency, but i am looking forward to this 'test'.
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LOL, there isn't anything illegal about deploying hashrate in excess of 50.1%. It's not my fault that that the flaw even exist.

~BCX~

You are also ddosing websites which is illegal.

It's not just illegal.
It's clearly terrorism.
Quick! Call the DHS.



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LOL, there isn't anything illegal about deploying hashrate in excess of 50.1%. It's not my fault that that the flaw even exist.

~BCX~
You are also ddosing websites which is illegal.
And if he dumps fake coins on the market and takes my btc it's fraud/theft.

So good luck with all of that.

No one is taking your BTC unless you offer to sell them for LTC this weekend. If for some reason you NEED Litecoins at that time, the exchange rate dip will somewhat compensate you for the risk of a double-spend.

There is no such thing as a "fake" Litecoin, just more secure and less secure ones based on confirmations. You agreed to this protocol.
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LOL, there isn't anything illegal about deploying hashrate in excess of 50.1%. It's not my fault that that the flaw even exist.

~BCX~

You are also ddosing websites which is illegal.

It's not just illegal.
It's clearly terrorism.
Quick! Call the DHS.



When a bully comes after you find a bigger bully to go after them  Smiley

Great idea. Why don't you hire a couple of goons to
find him and break his knees, while you're at it.

Dont fuck with people money is always good advice.

Its not my fault the US has retarded laws about computer intrusion  Smiley

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This forum is really crazy. Alternate Cryptocurrencies subforum is trolls vs trolls, by my opinion it's the worst part of bitcointalk.org. I even like the alternate cryptocurrencies.

Also, BitcoinEXpress, I don't really like what you're doing, I think litecoin doesn't only belong to coblee, it belongs to the community. I can't/won't/don't care to stop you, it's just my opinion, I don't think it's the right thing to do. Anyway you have the choice.

Thanks for your time possibly reading this.
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This forum is really crazy. Alternate Cryptocurrencies subforum is trolls vs trolls, by my opinion it's the worst part of bitcointalk.org. I even like the alternate cryptocurrencies.

Also, BitcoinEXpress, I don't really like what you're doing, I think litecoin doesn't only belong to coblee, it belongs to the community. I can't/won't/don't care to stop you, it's just my opinion, I don't think it's the right thing to do. Anyway you have the choice.

Thanks for your time possibly reading this.

I don't know about can't, could throw a GPU or two of the 3.25GH/s you got going on to the LTC network for a few days  Wink
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This forum is really crazy. Alternate Cryptocurrencies subforum is trolls vs trolls, by my opinion it's the worst part of bitcointalk.org. I even like the alternate cryptocurrencies.

Also, BitcoinEXpress, I don't really like what you're doing, I think litecoin doesn't only belong to coblee, it belongs to the community. I can't/won't/don't care to stop you, it's just my opinion, I don't think it's the right thing to do. Anyway you have the choice.

Thanks for your time possibly reading this.

You should see the BTC-E Chatroom. Real mess. Few have any interest in real discussion of the ideas behind the currencies, and those who need help with something get drowned out by the overly angry and under informed. Real mess.

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This forum is really crazy. Alternate Cryptocurrencies subforum is trolls vs trolls, by my opinion it's the worst part of bitcointalk.org. I even like the alternate cryptocurrencies.

Also, BitcoinEXpress, I don't really like what you're doing, I think litecoin doesn't only belong to coblee, it belongs to the community. I can't/won't/don't care to stop you, it's just my opinion, I don't think it's the right thing to do. Anyway you have the choice.

Thanks for your time possibly reading this.

I don't know about can't, could throw a GPU or two of the 3.25GH/s you got going on to the LTC network for a few days  Wink

I guess I could, but I don't want to get involved into this messy trolling haven. Although if the coin becomes at-risk I'll probably do 1 or 2 GPUs. The other PCs I've got are inaccessible to me right now.
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July 25, 2012, 12:32:04 AM
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LOL, there isn't anything illegal about deploying hashrate in excess of 50.1%. It's not my fault that that the flaw even exist.

~BCX~

Pretty sure there's something illegal about leveraging a botnet though, isn't there?
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LOL, there isn't anything illegal about deploying hashrate in excess of 50.1%. It's not my fault that that the flaw even exist.

~BCX~

Pretty sure there's something illegal about leveraging a botnet though, isn't there?

Im sure APPLE are happy one of their employees is advocating it  Wink

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July 25, 2012, 01:41:46 AM
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@Coblee


This isn't personal at all but your fellow miners over at BTC-E are taking on some serious Solidcoin type attitudes.

The challenge has a been made and apparently support over there was with them on it, in making a challenge that I couldn't 51% LTC.

Nothing like that to give me reason to resurrect some serious GPU hashpower, build up some EC2's (keep in mind even Coinhunter verfied I had over 700 EC2's running at the SC2 launch), connect up with some botnetter friends and bring some BTC out of USB deep freeze for fees... LOL....

This is fair warning to all.

Challenge accepted.

~BCX~


At least, if I detect ANY suspicious connections coming from Amazon EC2 Network, I'll contact abuse@amazonaws.com immediately.
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July 25, 2012, 02:11:41 AM
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Look all i have to say as a LTC Pool Owner and Operator



It would be wrong to destroy what so many of us in the community are trying to nurture and develop right now
I run Nu Kings Mining Co LTC Pool and would really hate to see the LTC Network 51% attack'd



BCX I am asking, Please dont do this, I have put my heart into building up this pool and now that it is starting to get popular you wanna destroy the LTC community that is just wrong, Please dont do this
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Look all i have to say as a LTC Pool Owner and Operator



It would be wrong to destroy what so many of us in the community are trying to nurture and develop right now
I run Nu Kings Mining Co LTC Pool and would really hate to see the LTC Network 51% attack'd



BCX I am asking, Please dont do this, I have put my heart into building up this pool and now that it is starting to get popular you wanna destroy the LTC community that is just wrong, Please dont do this
LOL, your giving btcx exactly what he wants.

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July 25, 2012, 02:50:13 AM
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LOL, there isn't anything illegal about deploying hashrate in excess of 50.1%. It's not my fault that that the flaw even exist.

~BCX~

Bullshit. You don't posses the resources to maintain any significant type of attack on the blockchain.

First it's DDoS, then 51% attack, then change your mind to difficulty increase....now settled on 50.1% attack.
What's next ? are you going to threaten to start your own LTC Exchange ?

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LOL, there isn't anything illegal about deploying hashrate in excess of 50.1%. It's not my fault that that the flaw even exist.

~BCX~

Bullshit. You don't posses the resources to maintain any significant type of attack on the blockchain.

First it's DDoS, then 51% attack, then change your mind to difficulty increase....now settled on 50.1% attack.
What's next ? are you going to threaten to start your own LTC Exchange ?

Im still waiting for her to take down solidcoin which she has so far failed to do as well. Not that I support sc I just think it must be aggravating that it is still operational  Grin Grin Grin

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@btcx put your money where your mouth is, you haven't showed ANY proof of any of your claims.

All this drama needs to stop, your not worth it.

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Im still waiting for her to take down solidcoin which she has so far failed to do as well. Not that I support sc I just think it must be aggravating that it is still operational  Grin Grin Grin

I thought the last exchange dropped Soiledcoin a while ago.
I am sure the 12 tyrant nodes + Groinhunters laptop are still ticking away. Though that hardly qualifies as life for a currency that cannot be exchanged for anything.

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@Coblee


This isn't personal at all but your fellow miners over at BTC-E are taking on some serious Solidcoin type attitudes.

The challenge has a been made and apparently support over there was with them on it, in making a challenge that I couldn't 51% LTC.

Nothing like that to give me reason to resurrect some serious GPU hashpower, build up some EC2's (keep in mind even Coinhunter verfied I had over 700 EC2's running at the SC2 launch), connect up with some botnetter friends and bring some BTC out of USB deep freeze for fees... LOL....

This is fair warning to all.

Challenge accepted.

~BCX~


At least, if I detect ANY suspicious connections coming from Amazon EC2 Network, I'll contact abuse@amazonaws.com immediately.

Unfortunately the forked chain that could be built with those EC2 instances will do their work long before anybody sees anything. You would be, regrettably, locking the stall gate after the horse has left.


 
 
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What about DDoSing the p2pool nodes and regular pools before try to reach 51%?
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JUST STICK WITH LITECOIN PEOPLE

The reason a heads-up was given is so people would stop mining Litecoin to make network weaker.  Solo mine or p2pool.  DON'T SELL YOUR LITECOINS.  For fucks sakes, people are acting like it happened already.  This is the internet.  I wanna let you all on a little secret....PEOPLE LIE!

If you guys really want to protect Litecoin start up a fund to hire investigators/etc... to find out who BCX is and find out who/what networks are helping him.(I'm not saying find him to hurt him, don't get wrong ideas here)  Make the information public.  Make sure people know that when you fuck with their investments your livelihood will get attacked right back.  I want employers, neighbors.....his fucking grandma to know what kind of douche this guy is.

I'm not selling my Litecoins attack or not.  My GPU's might only get 1100KH, but they'll be solo-mining for a while.
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JUST STICK WITH LITECOIN PEOPLE

The reason a heads-up was given is so people would stop mining Litecoin to make network weaker.  Solo mine or p2pool.  DON'T SELL YOUR LITECOINS.  For fucks sakes, people are acting like it happened already.  This is the internet.  I wanna let you all on a little secret....PEOPLE LIE!

If you guys really want to protect Litecoin start up a fund to hire investigators/etc... to find out who BCX is and find out who/what networks are helping him.(I'm not saying find him to hurt him, don't get wrong ideas here)  Make the information public.  Make sure people know that when you fuck with their investments your livelihood will get attacked right back.  I want employers, neighbors.....his fucking grandma to know what kind of douche this guy is.

I'm not selling my Litecoins attack or not.  My GPU's might only get 1100KH, but they'll be solo-mining for a while.
this guy is a girl
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lastly, i would point out that she has already broken laws just with the statements she has made ... look at Cyber Crimes Acts and look for things like this:
"Although freedom of speech is protected by law in most democratic societies (in US this is done by First Amendment) that does not include all types of speech. In fact spoken or written "true threat" speech/text is criminalized because of "intent to harm or intimidate", that also applies for online or any type of network related threats in written text or speech.[9] The US Supreme Court definition of "true threat" is "statements where t he speaker means to communicate a serious expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful violence to a particular individual or group".[9]"
 "Legislation geared at penalizing cyberbullying has been introduced in a number of U.S. states including New York, Missouri, Rhode Island and Maryland. At least seven states passed laws against digital harassment in 2007."
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I think its time people started to realise that crypocurrenices are a small subset of the real world, not in a lawless vaccuum.

I pay for my servers in real world money, I follow real world laws when I run my pools,
I will use the real world law enforcement agencies if crimes are committed against me or my servers.

Amazon record the identity of users, she already claimed to have had a go at a site hosted on tumblr, the internet is not anonymous

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lol @ all the SC sockpuppets coming out of the woodwork and cheering BCX on LOLOL

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Bottom line is this people,

When I successfully 51% LTC, regardless if you reset it or not.

Confidence will be broken, LTC will be dead.

So I suggest you all start solo mining in vain so I can laugh that much harder.

~BCX~

Why should you let bitcoin to go alone, coz it also has the same weekness.
It will be better you can also attack bitcoin & kill it.
So, we don't even need this forum & we all who owning bitcoins & litecoins say that we all fooled by a ponzi scheme.

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lol @ all the SC sockpuppets coming out of the woodwork and cheering BCX on LOLOL

No kidding huh...lol..


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BCX is actually ArtForz's alt tee hee!

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BCX is nothing but a low grade extortionist.

Dont be shocked if she sends messages to all the pools and litecoin exchanges demanding payment to call off the attack.

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BCX is nothing but a low grade extortionist.

Dont be shocked if she sends messages to all the pools and litecoin exchanges demanding payment to call off the attack.


I don't have to, I've already got a fairly sizable offering from several as "donations"....

 A Namecoin pool was nice enough to once "donate" 35,000 NMC to my public donation address. Back when it was .033 BTC and BTC was still at the $10.00 mark.



Extortion is illegal, donations accepted LOL


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You seriously are pathetic.  Wow.
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BCX is nothing but a low grade extortionist.

Dont be shocked if she sends messages to all the pools and litecoin exchanges demanding payment to call off the attack.


I don't have to, I've already got a fairly sizable offering from several as "donations"....

 A Namecoin pool was nice enough to once "donate" 35,000 NMC to my public donation address. Back when it was .033 BTC and BTC was still at the $10.00 mark.



Extortion is illegal, donations accepted LOL


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Check this out   http://pool-x.eu/net

I hope you get a scammer label.

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BCX is nothing but a low grade extortionist.

Dont be shocked if she sends messages to all the pools and litecoin exchanges demanding payment to call off the attack.


I don't have to, I've already got a fairly sizable offering from several as "donations"....

 A Namecoin pool was nice enough to once "donate" 35,000 NMC to my public donation address. Back when it was .033 BTC and BTC was still at the $10.00 mark.



Extortion is illegal, donations accepted LOL


 Grin Grin Grin

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Check this out   http://pool-x.eu/net

I hope you get a scammer label.

& get done with it. Scammer tagged, then banned.
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July 25, 2012, 08:10:40 AM
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BCX is nothing but a low grade extortionist.

Dont be shocked if she sends messages to all the pools and litecoin exchanges demanding payment to call off the attack.


I don't have to, I've already got a fairly sizable offering from several as "donations"....

 A Namecoin pool was nice enough to once "donate" 35,000 NMC to my public donation address. Back when it was .033 BTC and BTC was still at the $10.00 mark.



Extortion is illegal, donations accepted LOL


 Grin Grin Grin

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Check this out   http://pool-x.eu/net


You are a realy bad person, carma.
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BCX is nothing but a low grade extortionist.

Dont be shocked if she sends messages to all the pools and litecoin exchanges demanding payment to call off the attack.


I don't have to, I've already got a fairly sizable offering from several as "donations"....

 A Namecoin pool was nice enough to once "donate" 35,000 NMC to my public donation address. Back when it was .033 BTC and BTC was still at the $10.00 mark.



Extortion is illegal, donations accepted LOL


 Grin Grin Grin

~BCX~


Check this out   http://pool-x.eu/net

you talk absolute shite... no exchange or pool is gna pay you off and if there was talk its prob ur friends to give you a story to talk shit about. THE MOTIVE IS MOST LIKELY TO BUY CHEAP COINS AFTER A SCARE.... Dont believe for one second you can do anything sizable to the currency aside from a few little ddos's!

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Threads like this remind me...

There will never be a "bigger, better" bitcoin (I realize litecoin is not this, or intending to be this, continue reading). People on this forum talk about bitcoin losing value when a better cryptocurrency arrives. This thread explains why that will NEVER happen. Bitcoin is a one-of-a-kind, simply because it happened to become well-bootstrapped before it could be bullied around at the whims of some "dude."

That said, I don't really give three shits or another about litecoin. I do hate to see someone's hard work get destroyed. BTCX is the fat kid knocking over sandcastles at the beach.

But remember, they are just sandcastles.

*grabs popcorn
*buys bitcoins

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July 25, 2012, 10:55:44 AM
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^ but people think he/she should be arrested for mouthing off.....



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July 25, 2012, 10:55:59 AM
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Threads like this remind me...

There will never be a "bigger, better" bitcoin (I realize litecoin is not this, or intending to be this, continue reading). People on this forum talk about bitcoin losing value when a better cryptocurrency arrives. This thread explains why that will NEVER happen. Bitcoin is a one-of-a-kind, simply because it happened to become well-bootstrapped before it could be bullied around at the whims of some "dude."

That said, I don't really give three shits or another about litecoin. I do hate to see someone's hard work get destroyed. BTCX is the fat kid knocking over sandcastles at the beach.

But remember, they are just sandcastles.

*grabs popcorn
*buys bitcoins



+1
but i did make some good btc with ltc trading...

* grabs popcorn

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July 25, 2012, 11:22:42 AM
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^ but people think he/she should be arrested for mouthing off.....




No one said they should be arrested for simply mouthing off. Performing a ddos to extort funds is a different kettle of fish.

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Well let something happen..... and start threatening the "law"



Reminds me of people that see a guy smoking a joint and run to the next phone and call the police...... to have the police not give a shit...

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Threads like this remind me...

There will never be a "bigger, better" bitcoin (I realize litecoin is not this, or intending to be this, continue reading). People on this forum talk about bitcoin losing value when a better cryptocurrency arrives. This thread explains why that will NEVER happen. Bitcoin is a one-of-a-kind, simply because it happened to become well-bootstrapped before it could be bullied around at the whims of some "dude."

That said, I don't really give three shits or another about litecoin. I do hate to see someone's hard work get destroyed. BTCX is the fat kid knocking over sandcastles at the beach.

But remember, they are just sandcastles.

*grabs popcorn
*buys bitcoins



+1
but i did make some good btc with ltc trading...

* grabs popcorn

I used to beat up fat kids that destroy my sandcastles. Just because they are sandcastles doesn't mean he can knock em over. Cause and effect. Fair deal.
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Threads like this remind me...

There will never be a "bigger, better" bitcoin (I realize litecoin is not this, or intending to be this, continue reading). People on this forum talk about bitcoin losing value when a better cryptocurrency arrives. This thread explains why that will NEVER happen. Bitcoin is a one-of-a-kind, simply because it happened to become well-bootstrapped before it could be bullied around at the whims of some "dude."

That said, I don't really give three shits or another about litecoin. I do hate to see someone's hard work get destroyed. BTCX is the fat kid knocking over sandcastles at the beach.

But remember, they are just sandcastles.

*grabs popcorn
*buys bitcoins



You might be right about that. In the end though, the truly wealthy people will be those who build upon the work that we are doing right here, right now.

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Threads like this remind me...

There will never be a "bigger, better" bitcoin (I realize litecoin is not this, or intending to be this, continue reading). People on this forum talk about bitcoin losing value when a better cryptocurrency arrives. This thread explains why that will NEVER happen. Bitcoin is a one-of-a-kind, simply because it happened to become well-bootstrapped before it could be bullied around at the whims of some "dude."

That said, I don't really give three shits or another about litecoin. I do hate to see someone's hard work get destroyed. BTCX is the fat kid knocking over sandcastles at the beach.

But remember, they are just sandcastles.

*grabs popcorn
*buys bitcoins



I got some popcorn and bought some coins too.

Unlike you though I bought the right coins  Grin

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Either Litecoin survives the attack, in which case it is a true cryptocurrency that can withstand the whims of a single Apple employee. It may be worth continued investment.

Or Litecoin succumbs to the attack, in which case it was never a true cryptocurrency since it could not withstand a single person's attempts to compromise it. It survived only on the "greater fool" theory.

Either way, the die was cast many moons ago when Litecoin was designed and implemented. All we are watching is the resolution. Everyone seems intent on shooting the messenger.

What am I doing? I am selling popcorn.  Wink

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Okay, in light of all the contentious screaming here, I have decided to approach this matter and offer my services as a mediator to get it stopped. As soon as I am paid a retainer of 100,000 ltc I will enter into negotiations with BCX to stop this horrible assault. I have had communications with her in the past, and I believe that we can find a compromise stance that allows her to make the statement that she intends by this action, and still protect the interests of the earnest miners and pool operators who oppose this type of thuggery.

Please forward 100,000 ltc to LWDGyN3VApC3yn1PjHLoFAcvTQc3oY51ed to get this salvation started, I am confident that I will be able to stop this unwarranted harassment.


 
 
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Okay, in light of all the contentious screaming here, I have decided to approach this matter and offer my services as a mediator to get it stopped. As soon as I am paid a retainer of 100,000 ltc I will enter into negotiations with BCX to stop this horrible assault. I have had communications with her in the past, and I believe that we can find a compromise stance that allows her to make the statement that she intends by this action, and still protect the interests of the earnest miners and pool operators who oppose this type of thuggery.

Please forward 100,000 ltc to LWDGyN3VApC3yn1PjHLoFAcvTQc3oY51ed to get this salvation started, I am confident that I will be able to stop this unwarranted harassment.

No you see, people like this can't be "reasoned with". Its way to late for bribes... i think anyway... besides i've only got 140 LTC XP
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July 25, 2012, 09:07:12 PM
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Okay, in light of all the contentious screaming here, I have decided to approach this matter and offer my services as a mediator to get it stopped. As soon as I am paid a retainer of 100,000 ltc I will enter into negotiations with BCX to stop this horrible assault. I have had communications with her in the past, and I believe that we can find a compromise stance that allows her to make the statement that she intends by this action, and still protect the interests of the earnest miners and pool operators who oppose this type of thuggery.

Please forward 100,000 ltc to LWDGyN3VApC3yn1PjHLoFAcvTQc3oY51ed to get this salvation started, I am confident that I will be able to stop this unwarranted harassment.

Yeah bro I don't agree with you trying to negotiate anything with BCX. I tried and realized quickly that BCX will do what it is she/he wants.

Nuff said.

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July 25, 2012, 09:13:55 PM
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Okay, in light of all the contentious screaming here, I have decided to approach this matter and offer my services as a mediator to get it stopped. As soon as I am paid a retainer of 100,000 ltc I will enter into negotiations with BCX to stop this horrible assault. I have had communications with her in the past, and I believe that we can find a compromise stance that allows her to make the statement that she intends by this action, and still protect the interests of the earnest miners and pool operators who oppose this type of thuggery.

Please forward 100,000 ltc to LWDGyN3VApC3yn1PjHLoFAcvTQc3oY51ed to get this salvation started, I am confident that I will be able to stop this unwarranted harassment.

Warning, This Is A Scam.
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1KG OF POPCORN ONLY 300LTC... order now!

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July 25, 2012, 10:34:26 PM
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Okay, in light of all the contentious screaming here, I have decided to approach this matter and offer my services as a mediator to get it stopped. As soon as I am paid a retainer of 100,000 ltc I will enter into negotiations with BCX to stop this horrible assault. I have had communications with her in the past, and I believe that we can find a compromise stance that allows her to make the statement that she intends by this action, and still protect the interests of the earnest miners and pool operators who oppose this type of thuggery.

Please forward 100,000 ltc to LWDGyN3VApC3yn1PjHLoFAcvTQc3oY51ed to get this salvation started, I am confident that I will be able to stop this unwarranted harassment.

Loopy, what's your problem? Power up your Pentium 4 and mine your own coins.
It's like, a friend of yours is going to start a war and you are the only dipshit selling plasters&bandages in town.
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July 25, 2012, 10:39:47 PM
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Okay, in light of all the contentious screaming here, I have decided to approach this matter and offer my services as a mediator to get it stopped. As soon as I am paid a retainer of 100,000 ltc I will enter into negotiations with BCX to stop this horrible assault. I have had communications with her in the past, and I believe that we can find a compromise stance that allows her to make the statement that she intends by this action, and still protect the interests of the earnest miners and pool operators who oppose this type of thuggery.

Please forward 100,000 ltc to LWDGyN3VApC3yn1PjHLoFAcvTQc3oY51ed to get this salvation started, I am confident that I will be able to stop this unwarranted harassment.

Warning, This Is A Scam.



Here's another scam:

Challenge accepted.

~BCX~
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July 25, 2012, 10:41:12 PM
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Okay, in light of all the contentious screaming here, I have decided to approach this matter and offer my services as a mediator to get it stopped. As soon as I am paid a retainer of 100,000 ltc I will enter into negotiations with BCX to stop this horrible assault. I have had communications with her in the past, and I believe that we can find a compromise stance that allows her to make the statement that she intends by this action, and still protect the interests of the earnest miners and pool operators who oppose this type of thuggery.

Please forward 100,000 ltc to LWDGyN3VApC3yn1PjHLoFAcvTQc3oY51ed to get this salvation started, I am confident that I will be able to stop this unwarranted harassment.

Warning, This Is A Scam.



Here's another scam:

@Coblee
Challenge accepted.

~BCX~

You're taking BCX's words out of context. Coblee never challenged BCX. It was you and those noobs on BTC-e.com chat who started it.

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July 25, 2012, 10:45:27 PM
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Yes, children it is a scam. I am attempting to rip you off, liberate your litecoins into my own coffers, and sell them into the panic buying that happens after I defeat this whole attack thing.

That's how good I am, and wouldn't you know... but I've already gotten 12,500 in contributions from some of the very same loudest voices who want to support litecoin. Do you want it stopped or do you want to disbelieve?

The choice is yours, but I can stop it.


 
 
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July 25, 2012, 10:58:00 PM
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Yes, children it is a scam. I am attempting to rip you off, liberate your litecoins into my own coffers, and sell them into the panic buying that happens after I defeat this whole attack thing.

That's how good I am, and wouldn't you know... but I've already gotten 12,500 in contributions from some of the very same loudest voices who want to support litecoin. Do you want it stopped or do you want to disbelieve?

The choice is yours, but I can stop it.

Another sad character here. I'd rather see people buying popcorn from Koolio for 300LTC, than support scammers like you.
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July 25, 2012, 11:01:17 PM
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Yes, children it is a scam. I am attempting to rip you off, liberate your litecoins into my own coffers, and sell them into the panic buying that happens after I defeat this whole attack thing.

That's how good I am, and wouldn't you know... but I've already gotten 12,500 in contributions from some of the very same loudest voices who want to support litecoin. Do you want it stopped or do you want to disbelieve?

The choice is yours, but I can stop it.

Unless you are BCX you are NOT the closest person to getting the attack stopped.

People need to realize that BCX will do what she/he wants.

Keeping your litecoins in the exchanges is safe enough. Separate database from litecoin.

And no I don't believe you could stop it, unless you are BCX, which I doubt.


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He's predicting it was never going to happen..... How many girls do you know that are talkers vs. doers ? Cheesy

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