[ANN] [SUP] Supcoin, PLUCK algorithm, Just Launched, Mine Now!

[WigitGetIt]

Sup! Still Looking for Submissions for earlz to decide on.  This is just some fun for testing, and we could all use some fun. Check the below submissions.  If you believe you have something better, post it. This is a contest and there will be a winner.     Please retweet to help raise awareness.  Earlz is working hard on making sure this is a solid test of the codebase.  Lets show him some support.   

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[djm34]

earlz is starting to remind me a lot of r3wt...not a good sign

Just cause I don't like the premise of your coins, doesn't mean I'm a scammer

any giveaway from this coin?

There is no giveaway other than the bounties

hope you're actually pushing to gh and not leaving that fresh repo empty to mess with us ;-)

Lol I see I'm being watched closely

I've made a TEST-ONLY copy of the code and uploaded it to github. ONLY USE THIS FOR GPU MINER DEVELOPMENT. When the real coin is released, this code WILL NOT sync or work and it's blocks will be incompatible. This is only for GPU miner developers to test their code against a real coin. The github repo for it is at https://github.com/supcoin/supcoin-TEST-ONLY and it should sync automatically with 1 node and 2 or 3 blocks.

Again, DEVELOPMENT ONLY. Do not download this and try to mine it because you think these coins will be worth something. The real release will be later on

so exactly when does it launch ?
Can you make windows binaries for the lazy devs ?

I finally got Gitian working last night, so yea I can try and make a Windows wallet tonight for this code.

For reference, since I have Gitian working, at launch pre-compiled Linux, Windows, and Mac wallets will be available

Have you been able to make a win wallet ?

[earlz]

earlz is starting to remind me a lot of r3wt...not a good sign

Just cause I don't like the premise of your coins, doesn't mean I'm a scammer

any giveaway from this coin?

There is no giveaway other than the bounties

hope you're actually pushing to gh and not leaving that fresh repo empty to mess with us ;-)

Lol I see I'm being watched closely

I've made a TEST-ONLY copy of the code and uploaded it to github. ONLY USE THIS FOR GPU MINER DEVELOPMENT. When the real coin is released, this code WILL NOT sync or work and it's blocks will be incompatible. This is only for GPU miner developers to test their code against a real coin. The github repo for it is at https://github.com/supcoin/supcoin-TEST-ONLY and it should sync automatically with 1 node and 2 or 3 blocks.

Again, DEVELOPMENT ONLY. Do not download this and try to mine it because you think these coins will be worth something. The real release will be later on

so exactly when does it launch ?
Can you make windows binaries for the lazy devs ?

I finally got Gitian working last night, so yea I can try and make a Windows wallet tonight for this code.

For reference, since I have Gitian working, at launch pre-compiled Linux, Windows, and Mac wallets will be available

Have you been able to make a win wallet ?

I've been trying to get Gitian working which makes that work, but ran into some mystery issue I can't figure out.

If you're committing to actually use it, I might try doing a one-off special Windows build for you... but otherwise, I'd rather wait and figure out this Gitian issue

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[djm34]

earlz is starting to remind me a lot of r3wt...not a good sign

Just cause I don't like the premise of your coins, doesn't mean I'm a scammer

any giveaway from this coin?

There is no giveaway other than the bounties

hope you're actually pushing to gh and not leaving that fresh repo empty to mess with us ;-)

Lol I see I'm being watched closely

I've made a TEST-ONLY copy of the code and uploaded it to github. ONLY USE THIS FOR GPU MINER DEVELOPMENT. When the real coin is released, this code WILL NOT sync or work and it's blocks will be incompatible. This is only for GPU miner developers to test their code against a real coin. The github repo for it is at https://github.com/supcoin/supcoin-TEST-ONLY and it should sync automatically with 1 node and 2 or 3 blocks.

Again, DEVELOPMENT ONLY. Do not download this and try to mine it because you think these coins will be worth something. The real release will be later on

so exactly when does it launch ?
Can you make windows binaries for the lazy devs ?

I finally got Gitian working last night, so yea I can try and make a Windows wallet tonight for this code.

For reference, since I have Gitian working, at launch pre-compiled Linux, Windows, and Mac wallets will be available

Have you been able to make a win wallet ?

I've been trying to get Gitian working which makes that work, but ran into some mystery issue I can't figure out.

If you're committing to actually use it, I might try doing a one-off special Windows build for you... but otherwise, I'd rather wait and figure out this Gitian issue

take your time, I will look into but I don't know exactly when (and I can always compile it myself... was just to trying avoid the trouble)

[earlz]

Just to keep people from working on more logos, I'll decide the winner within 24 hours.

[earlz]

I now have #supcoin registered on Freenode, for all you IRCers

[aivapool]

so we are still waiting for the launch of the coin!

[dogetime]

Looks like a solid coin, definitely going to throw as much hashing power as I can get a hold of at this

[earlz]

I finally have some compiled versions of the TEST-ONLY version of the code.

This wallet will NOT WORK when teh code is actually released and any coins mined on it will have no value and will not exist when the actual coin is released.

Note, this hasn't been themed yet, so it still shows bitcoin's logos and such.

Anyway, I've only got two version for now due to lack of time

http://earlz.net/static/supcoin-TEST-win32.zip
http://earlz.net/static/supcoin-TEST-linux64.tar.gz

[earlz]

In order to raise tangible funds to motivate GPU miner devs, I am now hosting a donation address for Bitcoin.

1K6cUbtsn5xinD8XfjnTn7UnsMriLhZaGD

The first GPU miner to be created (AMD or Nvidia) and published under an open source license will receive all the money from this fund.

I'm putting in 0.25 BTC of my own money. I encourage everyone to donate what you can to help make this a lucrative bounty.

[earlz]

For a second, I want to talk a bit about why I like PLUCK as it is designed.

As you can see, it is quite simple. It is a couple dozen lines of code (less if you don't count salsa), terse, but pretty easy to understand, very easy to configure, and defers all actual cryptographic properties to SHA256. SHA256 is very easy to understand, and can be reasonably contained within about 50 or so lines of code as well.

Try to name another hashing algorithm that is so simple. The only one that comes to mind for me is SHA256 itself. With this simplicity, it is of course easy to understand. And with it's extremely memory-hard properties, there are not many optimization techniques that can be done. What this boils down to is that after a somewhat optimized GPU miner comes out, there shouldn't be anything like X11, where some kernels can double the hashrate. There will always be microoptimizations and ways to do things a bit faster, but due to it's simplicity, I don't expect huge hashrate increases with optimizations.

This helps avoid the X11 GPU kernel race. X11 is actually extremely complicated. It is 11 hashing algorithms, each with their own potential optimizations, and their interactions can be optimized. Scrypt is also relatively complex, and if you've ever looked at it's implementation, it's not too easy to understand or get the whole picture. The numerous number of parameters also allow for special-case optimization pretty easily. Whereas PLUCK is designed to be as simple as possible with just 1 parameter controlling memory usage, meaning that the first implementation is probably not too far off from a significantly optimized version. PLUCK is not designed to be a password hashing algorithm, or anything like that. It is designed as a PoW algorithm, and I personally think it fits that quite well.

PLUCK is of course not ASIC "proof", which is impossible. However, I estimate GPU performance gains to be only 4-6x over CPU, and because it is heavy on memory access, rather than computation, it has potential to be a "cool" algorithm. GPUs get hot from computation, not memory access.. So, since this is memory access intense, the bottleneck should lie there, and thus bringing cooler CPU temps and lower power draw. This is of course my best guess though.

[cisahasa]

0.9.3 versions solomines and connects just fine with any miner.
but what has changed with 10.++ versions, those wont get miners connected anymore??

[earlz]

0.9.3 versions solomines and connects just fine with any miner.
but what has changed with 10.++ versions, those wont get miners connected anymore??

They removed the "getwork" RPC call, in favor of getblocktemplate. This means you must pass into your miner an address as well for solo-mining (if not mining in the wallet itself)

In other news, I just now completed a very raw and barely tested minerd (CPU miner). https://github.com/Earlz/pluckcpuminer (it's 3:30am, I mined 2 testnet blocks with it and called it good lol)
This will be used for CPU mining against a pool.

[ZPserge]

you have already decided on the start-up time? I would like to be with this coin, I hope the announcement of the launch will be 1-2 days before X

[earlz]

The logo winner is logocreator! This logo wins!



After launch, I'll PM you for an address and will send you the reward

you have already decided on the start-up time? I would like to be with this coin, I hope the announcement of the launch will be 1-2 days before X

I was waiting on a number of things to get completed before I committed to anything. All the major things are now completed and/or working. This includes:

1. Gitian, for building binary Mac, Linux, and Windows wallets at launch
2. minerd, a CPU miner for pool mining (also is faster than in-wallet mining for solo mining as well)
3. Some testing and difficulty adjustment testing.

The coin itself is looking good and the only thing I really want now is a Windows compile of the CPU miner and a NOMP module for pools. I'm going to look into these two and then will probably set a time and day for launch. Hopefully in a 3-4 days

[WEBcreator]

In order to raise tangible funds to motivate GPU miner devs, I am now hosting a donation address for Bitcoin.

1K6cUbtsn5xinD8XfjnTn7UnsMriLhZaGD

The first GPU miner to be created (AMD or Nvidia) and published under an open source license will receive all the money from this fund.

I'm putting in 0.25 BTC of my own money. I encourage everyone to donate what you can to help make this a lucrative bounty.

cmon guys, we need more donation to help earlz get this GPU miner 

[earlz]

With the help of Wolf` and djm34, some problems with PLUCK have been found that break it's cryptographic security (ie, always including a plain sha256 hash), as well as some non-obvious performance optimizations that are not intended.

So, the hashing algorithm has changed some. I think in it's current state on github it should be good, but I'm still working to verify this. 

[mxxxxxx]

In order to raise tangible funds to motivate GPU miner devs, I am now hosting a donation address for Bitcoin.

1K6cUbtsn5xinD8XfjnTn7UnsMriLhZaGD

The first GPU miner to be created (AMD or Nvidia) and published under an open source license will receive all the money from this fund.

I'm putting in 0.25 BTC of my own money. I encourage everyone to donate what you can to help make this a lucrative bounty.

cmon guys, we need more donation to help earlz get this GPU miner 

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[e1ghtSpace]

I am totally watching this, although I am disappointed that the dev wants a GPU miner out asap. I would've liked it to be cpu only. Oh well...

But I am still watching.