The last thing I want to see is political correctness.

[Anonymous]

I am seeing a lot of users beginning to complain about nihilist-fringe individuals getting their voices heard in the frequent political discussions that occur on the forum, which should be expected. Bitcoin is a huge political statement unto itself. However, we should not stand-by and let only the status-quo be heard in discussions. For every status-quo, humble opinion there should be an opposing view. This allows us to escape from the groupthink that has plagued so many other communities.

So, here's my position: let the politics occur. Let all voices be heard. Let people be offended because if not this forum will regress to anything but a rigorous and quality conversation.

Thank you.

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[kiba]

* kiba yawn.

I am sorry..what?

I saw a few thread on anarcho-capitalism lately. Looks to me there ain't any censorship.

[wumpus]

I know what you mean, some people are calling for increased moderation of fringe opinions because it "might scare off new people". Yeah, ... once you start self-censoring where does it end.

[MoonShadow]

I don't care if it scares of new people.  This is a forum, it is not Bitcoin itself.  I will not sensor civilly expressed personal opinions, personally.  That would violate my own principles.

[AntiVigilante]

I am seeing a lot of users beginning to complain about nihilist-fringe individuals getting their voices heard in the frequent political discussions that occur on the forum, which should be expected. Bitcoin is a huge political statement unto itself. However, we should not stand-by and let only the status-quo be heard in discussions. For every status-quo, humble opinion there should be an opposing view. This allows us to escape from the groupthink that has plagued so many other communities.

So, here's my position: let the politics occur. Let all voices be heard. Let people be offended because if not this forum will regress to anything but a rigorous and quality conversation.

Thank you.

My experience with Anonymous over 3.5 months is that the bitchiest Beavises get things done.

So, +9000. Ultimately the most eloquent argument is still just a wankspew on the Internet. Sometimes the moment before an epiphany is when people are at their worst. Let the process work.

[theymos]

There will be no censorship of these ideas.

If someone responds to a topic with a comment consisting of something like, "This should not be allowed on the forum," their post is off-topic and should be deleted. Report it. (Note that this would be OK as part of an on-topic post, though.)

[shady financier]

I am seeing a lot of users beginning to complain about nihilist-fringe individuals getting their voices heard in the frequent political discussions that occur on the forum, which should be expected. Bitcoin is a huge political statement unto itself. However, we should not stand-by and let only the status-quo be heard in discussions. For every status-quo, humble opinion there should be an opposing view. This allows us to escape from the groupthink that has plagued so many other communities.

So, here's my position: let the politics occur. Let all voices be heard. Let people be offended because if not this forum will regress to anything but a rigorous and quality conversation.

Thank you.

The fringers voices are doomed to decline. As bitcoin becomes more popular, more and more people that don't have a pathological hatred of government will start to trickle in. Fringers will find themselves increasingly alienated and marginalized in the face of an inevitable onslaught of 'norms'.

Eventually, bitter and disillusioned, the fringers will slink off to Free Republic or john-galt.com or wherever it is they find like-minded others, taking their copies of Atlas Shrugged and their Mises articles and their thousands and thousands of bitcoins with them.

Hey, thousands and thousands of bitcoins is worth something, so it's not a completely crappy deal.

The future belongs to the norms guys. Tax-loving law-embracing norms, because bitcoin will enter the realm of the mainstream.

[kiba]

The fringers voices are doomed to decline. As bitcoin becomes more popular, more and more people that don't have a pathological hatred of government will start to trickle in. Fringers will find themselves increasingly alienated and marginalized in the face of an inevitable onslaught of 'norms'.

Eventually, bitter and disillusioned, the fringers will slink off to Free Republic or john-galt.com or wherever it is they find like-minded others, taking their copies of Atlas Shrugged and their Mises articles and their thousands and thousands of bitcoins with them.

Hey, thousands and thousands of bitcoins is worth something, so it's not a completely crappy deal.

The future belongs to the norms guys. Tax-loving law-embracing norms, because bitcoin will enter the realm of the mainstream.

Don't care about norms and not-norms. I have enough of being a disillusioned and bitter do-nothinger. Bitcoin make me a bitter and disillusioned doer.

Now I run a magazine that manages to employ people, some for quite a while.

[Anonymous]

I am seeing a lot of users beginning to complain about nihilist-fringe individuals getting their voices heard in the frequent political discussions that occur on the forum, which should be expected. Bitcoin is a huge political statement unto itself. However, we should not stand-by and let only the status-quo be heard in discussions. For every status-quo, humble opinion there should be an opposing view. This allows us to escape from the groupthink that has plagued so many other communities.

So, here's my position: let the politics occur. Let all voices be heard. Let people be offended because if not this forum will regress to anything but a rigorous and quality conversation.

Thank you.

The future belongs to the norms guys. Tax-loving law-embracing norms, because bitcoin will enter the realm of the mainstream.

Only time will tell and the moment Bitcoin is embraced by the mainstream, the increasing entropy will only cause liberty to flourish.

[AntiVigilante]

The fringers voices are doomed to decline.

Yipee. Your point is?

As bitcoin becomes more popular, more and more people that don't have a pathological hatred of government will start to trickle in.

Pathological. You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

It means tending towards or being self-destructive.

1. You're confusing responsible governance with bloated government, particularly because you're too comfortable to differentiate the two.
2. You ignore the criminal governers and suffering governed, which is why you use the word pathological carelessly.
3. Drug war.
4. FCC.
5. WTO.
6. Civilian Inmate Labor Program.
7. War on terriblism.
8. FDA.
9. United Homeless Organization.
10. TSA.

You can google the rest.

Fringers will find themselves increasingly alienated and marginalized in the face of an inevitable onslaught of 'norms'.

You must have been in a cave the last ten years.

Eventually, bitter and disillusioned

We're not the ones on the couch editorializing arrogant prognoses against fellow human beings. Bitterness and disillusionment is a separation from activity and validation in the real world. We code, we sell, and we build these services that you can't even be bothered to imagine. We get our validation from actual trial and error with a little bit of talent and skill. We're well grounded. You're the one riding the bus, not driving it. When the bus stalls, we'll know what to do. You'll be pulling your hair out. Bitter and disillusioned is in your future, not ours.

the fringers will slink off to Free Republic or john-galt.com

Bitter? Us? Read that again.

or wherever it is they find like-minded others

There's this place called the Internet, tough guy.

taking their copies of Atlas Shrugged and their Mises articles and their thousands and thousands of bitcoins with them.

I'm not mining. I'm getting paid to code. In BTC, after which I buy diapers.

Hey, thousands and thousands of bitcoins is worth something, so it's not a completely crappy deal.

You're welcome.

The future belongs to the norms guys. Tax-loving law-embracing norms, because bitcoin will enter the realm of the mainstream.

Where Quantitatively Easing Antelopes roam.

[goatpig]

Don't care about norms and not-norms. I have enough of being a disillusioned and bitter do-nothinger. Bitcoin make me a bitter and disillusioned doer.

Now I run a magazine that manages to employ people, some for quite a while.

And prints comics about the holy Bitcoin bubble, mother of all bubbles.

There's a pattern I've witnessed in here. Goes like this: Someone comes in here writing a caustic critic on Bitcoin. Whether the critic is well written or not, it often more than not delve into political implications. People argue against the political statement, critic and his defenders stray from the political point to spill into some heartfelt tear shedding emotional rant about anarchists being at the crossing point between stupidity, youth, irrationality (oh the irony) and whatever else they care to mix in. From there on, shit goes monkey ass.

I think if it wasn't for nursing ill thoughts towards the government and the way things are run, this project wouldn't have been born. If there is motivation in frustration, I think that everyone from the developers themselves to the first day adopters have joined at least partially because of that frustration and the need to break away from this enforced nonsense. In sum, I'm describing everyone who is somehow responsible for the state in which Bitcoin is now.

As such, I think this difference should be clearly expressed and nurtured in here. There is no need to register here to use Bitcoins. The mining and technical forums are devoid of politics. The loon fest and flame wars are limited to the general, economic and off topic forums. I say, let them be!

[JohnDoe]

The fringers voices are doomed to decline. As bitcoin becomes more popular, more and more people that don't have a pathological hatred of government will start to trickle in. Fringers will find themselves increasingly alienated and marginalized in the face of an inevitable onslaught of 'norms'.

Eventually, bitter and disillusioned, the fringers will slink off to Free Republic or john-galt.com or wherever it is they find like-minded others, taking their copies of Atlas Shrugged and their Mises articles and their thousands and thousands of bitcoins with them.

Hey, thousands and thousands of bitcoins is worth something, so it's not a completely crappy deal.

The future belongs to the norms guys. Tax-loving law-embracing norms, because bitcoin will enter the realm of the mainstream.

Lol, you read my mind almost word for word. All these recent calls for censorship for the sake of PR and branding have left a bad taste in my mouth so today I loaded up on cyberpunk books to replace the time I usually spent reading and posting here.

[AntiVigilante]

The fringers voices are doomed to decline. As bitcoin becomes more popular, more and more people that don't have a pathological hatred of government will start to trickle in. Fringers will find themselves increasingly alienated and marginalized in the face of an inevitable onslaught of 'norms'.

Eventually, bitter and disillusioned, the fringers will slink off to Free Republic or john-galt.com or wherever it is they find like-minded others, taking their copies of Atlas Shrugged and their Mises articles and their thousands and thousands of bitcoins with them.

Hey, thousands and thousands of bitcoins is worth something, so it's not a completely crappy deal.

The future belongs to the norms guys. Tax-loving law-embracing norms, because bitcoin will enter the realm of the mainstream.

Lol, you read my mind almost word for word. All these recent calls for censorship for the sake of PR and branding have left a bad taste in my mouth so today I loaded up on cyberpunk books to replace the time I usually spent reading and posting here.

Careful he'll take that as an endorsement of his intent.

[sortedmush]

fRiNgErS!
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