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February 15, 2015, 12:50:11 AM |
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Satoshi Nakamoto set in motion the unraveling of the nation state
You sound like the kind of person who denounces the state as a legitimate authority. So why then, do you then continually equate 'identity' with only government-approved identity? not to want an identity attached to the source code.
So who is Satoshi Nakamoto? Information on their identity remains unknown.
Satoshi’s last call was to deemphasize his unknown identity.
Satoshi's identity is known - it's Satoshi Nakamoto, inventor of bitcoin, author of the bitcoin whitepaper, etc. The inventor of bitcoin isn't anonymous - we know who created it. Satoshi Nakamoto did. We just don't happen to know the government-approved name this person has on some stamped piece of paper that his parents got from the state... ...or a readily available likeness of his persona. Which begs the question: Does Satoshi own a mirror? |
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"In a nutshell, the network works like a distributed
timestamp server, stamping the first transaction to spend a coin. It
takes advantage of the nature of information being easy to spread but
hard to stifle." -- Satoshi
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February 15, 2015, 09:11:01 AM |
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Yes as mentioned above his account is locked to prevent people from attempting to access his account. You are not even able to search for his profile using the search function. In theory theymos and other admins have access to what satoshi's password was via forum backups. |
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February 15, 2015, 09:24:23 AM |
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The passwords are hashed/encrypted so I don't even think theymos has access to the passwords but he can reset them.
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February 15, 2015, 09:51:38 AM |
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The passwords are hashed/encrypted so I don't even think theymos has access to the passwords but he can reset them.
He would obviously need to have the seed that is used to create the hashes of the passwords therefore he would be able to access the plaintext versions of passwords if he really needed/wanted to. It is extremely bad security protocol to access plaintext versions of passwords as well as to change passwords therefore he will only reset password via email. I would guess that in the event that satoshi were to return that theymos would probably not reset his password via email but would unlock his account and change the password to one of his choice |
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February 15, 2015, 09:57:54 AM |
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The passwords are hashed/encrypted so I don't even think theymos has access to the passwords but he can reset them.
He would obviously need to have the seed that is used to create the hashes of the passwords therefore he would be able to access the plaintext versions of passwords if he really needed/wanted to. It is extremely bad security protocol to access plaintext versions of passwords as well as to change passwords therefore he will only reset password via email. I would guess that in the event that satoshi were to return that theymos would probably not reset his password via email but would unlock his account and change the password to one of his choice In standard operation, there is no "seed" that Theymos or anyone else could access. The hash is calculated from the password, but only the hash is stored. |
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February 15, 2015, 10:11:48 AM |
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I would guess that in the event that satoshi were to return that theymos would probably not reset his password via email but would unlock his account and change the password to one of his choice
satoshi is a special case anyway, but I'm sure he likely still knows his password so would just have to prove it's his account in the first place by signing an address to get it unlocked. |
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February 15, 2015, 09:58:47 PM |
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I would guess that in the event that satoshi were to return that theymos would probably not reset his password via email but would unlock his account and change the password to one of his choice
satoshi is a special case anyway, but I'm sure he likely still knows his password so would just have to prove it's his account in the first place by signing an address to get it unlocked. I would say it is more likely that he would need to sign a PGP message as opposed to an address, as all of his addresses are not 100% certain to be his. Although both have a very small chances of happening, there is probably a greater chance that satoshi has lost access to his private bitcoin keys then his PGP private key |
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February 16, 2015, 06:48:46 AM |
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Satoshi Nakamoto set in motion the unraveling of the nation state
You sound like the kind of person who denounces the state as a legitimate authority. So why then, do you then continually equate 'identity' with only government-approved identity? not to want an identity attached to the source code.
So who is Satoshi Nakamoto? Information on their identity remains unknown.
Satoshi’s last call was to deemphasize his unknown identity.
Satoshi's identity is known - it's Satoshi Nakamoto, inventor of bitcoin, author of the bitcoin whitepaper, etc. The inventor of bitcoin isn't anonymous - we know who created it. Satoshi Nakamoto did. We just don't happen to know the government-approved name this person has on some stamped piece of paper that his parents got from the state. +1 props This guy not only gave us public coin but also an example for quality of publication and scientific endeavor. Step 1: remove small ego and petty political motivation. |
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February 16, 2015, 04:44:14 PM |
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he might be dead now no one knows  however the system is open source and not controlled by anyone its dont metter much to get his identity |
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February 16, 2015, 05:31:57 PM |
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Still waiting to see a single argument that delivers a sound explanation as to why we should know Satoshi's real identity.
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February 16, 2015, 06:07:33 PM |
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Satoshi is not a single person. Satoshi is the "identity" of a billion-dollar multiple-year plan to have authority over ALL the money on the world.
When all fiat is converted to BTC, we've lost.
It's just a theory, though, and I don't believe in it myself.
Still an interesting predicament.
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February 16, 2015, 06:24:36 PM |
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I went into hiding as a hermit, up on the top of an obscure mountain, just so nobody could come up to me and tell me that, Mr. Nakamoto's identity is not important.  |
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February 16, 2015, 06:28:15 PM |
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Satoshi is not a single person. Satoshi is the "identity" of a billion-dollar multiple-year plan to have authority over ALL the money on the world.
How can Bitcoin give its creator authority over its users? The protocol is designed in such a way that you can only control your bitcoins if you know your private key. |
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February 16, 2015, 06:53:27 PM |
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Satoshi is not a single person. Satoshi is the "identity" of a billion-dollar multiple-year plan to have authority over ALL the money on the world.
How can Bitcoin give its creator authority over its users? The protocol is designed in such a way that you can only control your bitcoins if you know your private key. Studies have shown that, on the average, Southeast Asians are about 10 IQ points above Western Europeans and Americans. The same studies have shown that spikes in IQ among Western Europeans and Americans are much higher and much more frequent than such spikes in Southeast Asians. The point? There was probably one Southeast Asian person (Satoshi) who had a high IQ spike that was way above anything anyone else in the world has ever had (excluding Solomon in the Bible O.T., that is). This spike in IQ caused him to be able to build several virtually-invisible-to-the-rest-of-us back doors into the whole Bitcoin program, so that he could, if he wanted, immediately take control of the whole Bitcoin protocol everywhere, all at the same time. The thing that Satoshi is doing now is quietly positioning Bitcoin throughout the world in such a way that it will collapse the banking system, unexpectedly, all at once. After the banking system collapses, when Bitcoin has become the dominant method for easy value transfer throughout the world, then Satoshi will take over the world. I only hope he allows the rest of us who are Bitcoin adepts, to position ourselves near the top of the wealth before he takes over.  |
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February 16, 2015, 11:50:12 PM |
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Still waiting to see a single argument that delivers a sound explanation as to why we should know Satoshi's real identity.
As Cyberdyne pointed out, we do know it. |
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February 17, 2015, 02:31:35 AM |
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It takes a god-like self-control to create a technology that can change our world and to remain in the shadows. While I am curious to know the real-world identity of Satoshi, I reluctantly must accept that if the creator of Bitcoin does not decide to publicly reveal their identity, then I may never know. The steps Satoshi made to keep their identity private says a lot. We should respect his, her, or their wishes.
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February 17, 2015, 04:09:19 AM |
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I don't think I ever observed any sign of egotism in SN's stuff.
He never gave a damn who got credit. Never bragged on a darn thing. Had nobody he wanted to prove anything to as far as I know. Never said "I told you so" about anything. And was just as hard on his own code and ideas as he was on anybody else's. He just wanted to get stuff done. Anytime you wanted to have a conversation that wasn't directly about getting stuff done, he'd just drop it and go get stuff done.
That is all it takes to remain in the shadows. It's not godlike self-control; it's just a commitment to purpose over ego.
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