Public STATEMENT Regarding Bitcoinica account hack at MtGox

[malevolent]

is anyone committing these all of these threads to pastebin or elsewhere ?  As posts seem to be removed from time to time this will all be relevant when these cases go to court.

Maybe the forum administration will be able to find deleted posts if they are not deleted from the database, or if they are, by restoring its backup (I heard the forum's backup is done pretty often).

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[Maged]

is anyone committing these all of these threads to pastebin or elsewhere ?  As posts seem to be removed from time to time this will all be relevant when these cases go to court.

Maybe the forum administration will be able to find deleted posts if they are not deleted from the database, or if they are, by restoring its backup (I heard the forum's backup is done pretty often).

Deleted posts are only ever hidden from the public, despite the button being called "delete". They can be unhidden just as easily.

[BCB]

The forum is managed in the US but hosted in Japan.  Wonder what the legality is of complying with Subpoenas. There is probably also a Fed or NSA geek already monitoring  and mirroring this board.

[rjk]

The forum is managed in the US but hosted in Japan.  Wonder what the legality is of complying with Subpoenas. There is probably also a Fed or NSA geek already monitoring  and mirroring this board.

Try again: http://whois.domaintools.com/50.97.137.52
Hosted at Softlayer in Dallas. Whois protected by a canadian company.

[MrTeal]

is anyone committing these all of these threads to pastebin or elsewhere ?  As posts seem to be removed from time to time this will all be relevant when these cases go to court.

Maybe the forum administration will be able to find deleted posts if they are not deleted from the database, or if they are, by restoring its backup (I heard the forum's backup is done pretty often).

Deleted posts are only ever hidden from the public, despite the button being called "delete". They can be unhidden just as easily.

What about edited posts?

[BCB]

The forum is managed in the US but hosted in Japan.  Wonder what the legality is of complying with Subpoenas. There is probably also a Fed or NSA geek already monitoring  and mirroring this board.

Try again: http://whois.domaintools.com/50.97.137.52
Hosted at Softlayer in Dallas. Whois protected by a canadian company.

Interesting.  I thought I saw a whois and/or read discussion that bitcoin.org talk was hosted by Tibanne Co. Ltd??
Has that changed recently?

[BCB]

hmmm....

I don't know if full disclosure is in order but could a mod or admin weight in?

Thanks.

[rjk]

The forum is managed in the US but hosted in Japan.  Wonder what the legality is of complying with Subpoenas. There is probably also a Fed or NSA geek already monitoring  and mirroring this board.

Try again: http://whois.domaintools.com/50.97.137.52
Hosted at Softlayer in Dallas. Whois protected by a canadian company.

Interesting.  I thought I saw a whois and/or read discussion that bitcoin.org talk was hosted by Tibanne Co. Ltd??
Has that changed recently?

MtGox provides hosting, but that doesn't mean that the hosting is in Japan. I think you might find that MtGox is in the same place, but you can't check since the IP is that of the DDoS prevention service (Prolexic).

[check_status]

SoftLayer, a global leader in cloud, dedicated and managed private hosting, runs on Global Crossing infrastructure, a leading global IP solutions provider. Global crossing provides dedicated 10 Gbps Dedicated Internet Access (DIA) ports for SoftLayer.

"Global Crossing provides services to enterprises (including approximately 40 percent of the Fortune 500); government departments and agencies; and 700 carriers, mobile operators and ISPs. It delivers converged IP services to more than 700 cities in more than 70 countries, and has 17 world-class data centers in major business centers around the globe."
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/softlayer-deploys-global-crossing-solution-to-meet-growing-demand-for-virtual-data-center-connectivity-128661883.html

Softlayer may not be the NSA, but Global Crossing might be.

[neofutur]

Relevant?

Session Time: Fri Jul 13 00:00:00 2012
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[01:01] * phantomcircuit sets mode: -o phantomcircuit
[01:01] * phantomcircuit is now known as steve_bobs

Session Time: Fri Jul 13 00:00:00 2012
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[01:01] * phantomcircuit is now known as steve_bobs

I call fake on that chat-log. I can't find any evidence of that anywhere.

not fake, I also have those in my logs : 

Code:

/irclogs/freenode $ grep steve_bobs *>../steve_bobs.log

cat ../steve_bobs.log

#bitcoinconsultancy.log:2012-07-13 07:57-!- phantomcircuit is now known as steve_bobs
#bitcoinconsultancy.log:2012-07-14 23:29-!- steve_bobs [~phantomci@c-67-188-9-35.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
#bitcoin-dev.log:2012-07-13 07:57-!- phantomcircuit is now known as steve_bobs
#bitcoin-dev.log:2012-07-13 18:11< gavinandr> steve_bobs: I don't think it would work for an exchange, they'll have to be a MSB
#bitcoin-dev.log:2012-07-14 23:29-!- steve_bobs [~phantomci@c-67-188-9-35.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
#bitcoin-ops.log:2012-07-13 07:57-!- phantomcircuit is now known as steve_bobs
#bitcoin-ops.log:2012-07-14 23:29-!- steve_bobs [~phantomci@c-67-188-9-35.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
#bitcoin-otc.log:2012-07-13 07:57-!- phantomcircuit is now known as steve_bobs
#bitcoin-otc.log:2012-07-14 23:29-!- steve_bobs [~phantomci@c-67-188-9-35.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
#bitvps.log:2012-07-28 22:43<     jaxtr> "steve_bobs"
#mtgox.log:2012-07-13 07:57-!- phantomcircuit is now known as steve_bobs
#mtgox.log:2012-07-14 23:29-!- steve_bobs [~phantomci@c-67-188-9-35.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

but this really means nothing at all imo

[smoothie]

I hope everyone can comment with more reasoning and less assumptions. I'm trying my best to calm down and attempt to get more information about the hacker, because he also used my email for a credit card fraud case. It's possible to discover something at that direction.

I have also listed a few people who know this secret email of mine. And I'm going to question them one by one tonight.

I'm definitely on the side of Bitcoinica customers and I believe that if the real hacker really had ties with me personally like what MagicalTux said, I may be able to recover majority of the amount back if the hacker can be warned. This issue is very serious and if I'm the hacker, I would definitely return the full amount back to reduce the criminal punishment.

The hacker seems to be a Chinese because he used Chinese punctuations in his English messages in the Aurumxchange ticket.

I will provide any information needed to the police once Bitcoinica files a police report.

Now that makes no sense.

You steal the funds just to return them to reduce criminal punishment?

LOL

[stochastic]

I hope everyone can comment with more reasoning and less assumptions. I'm trying my best to calm down and attempt to get more information about the hacker, because he also used my email for a credit card fraud case. It's possible to discover something at that direction.

I have also listed a few people who know this secret email of mine. And I'm going to question them one by one tonight.

I'm definitely on the side of Bitcoinica customers and I believe that if the real hacker really had ties with me personally like what MagicalTux said, I may be able to recover majority of the amount back if the hacker can be warned. This issue is very serious and if I'm the hacker, I would definitely return the full amount back to reduce the criminal punishment.

The hacker seems to be a Chinese because he used Chinese punctuations in his English messages in the Aurumxchange ticket.

I will provide any information needed to the police once Bitcoinica files a police report.

Now that makes no sense.

You steal the funds just to return them to reduce criminal punishment?

LOL

But if the thief says he is sorry, then it is ok, right?

[Vod]

I hope everyone can comment with more reasoning and less assumptions. I'm trying my best to calm down and attempt to get more information about the hacker, because he also used my email for a credit card fraud case. It's possible to discover something at that direction.

I have also listed a few people who know this secret email of mine. And I'm going to question them one by one tonight.

I'm definitely on the side of Bitcoinica customers and I believe that if the real hacker really had ties with me personally like what MagicalTux said, I may be able to recover majority of the amount back if the hacker can be warned. This issue is very serious and if I'm the hacker, I would definitely return the full amount back to reduce the criminal punishment.

The hacker seems to be a Chinese because he used Chinese punctuations in his English messages in the Aurumxchange ticket.

I will provide any information needed to the police once Bitcoinica files a police report.

Now that makes no sense.

You steal the funds just to return them to reduce criminal punishment?

LOL

But if the thief says he is sorry, then it is ok, right?

In this community, apparently so.   

[smoothie]

I hope everyone can comment with more reasoning and less assumptions. I'm trying my best to calm down and attempt to get more information about the hacker, because he also used my email for a credit card fraud case. It's possible to discover something at that direction.

I have also listed a few people who know this secret email of mine. And I'm going to question them one by one tonight.

I'm definitely on the side of Bitcoinica customers and I believe that if the real hacker really had ties with me personally like what MagicalTux said, I may be able to recover majority of the amount back if the hacker can be warned. This issue is very serious and if I'm the hacker, I would definitely return the full amount back to reduce the criminal punishment.

The hacker seems to be a Chinese because he used Chinese punctuations in his English messages in the Aurumxchange ticket.

I will provide any information needed to the police once Bitcoinica files a police report.

Now that makes no sense.

You steal the funds just to return them to reduce criminal punishment?

LOL

But if the thief says he is sorry, then it is ok, right?

My whole point was that if ZT were to steal the funds then return it to reduce punishment that would made so much sanese

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[ninjarobot]

At this time, it appears that there is an overwhelming amount of evidence linking Zhou Tong personally to the Bitcoinica account hack at MtGox. Our legal department has advised us to freeze the funds for the exchange order mentioned above until further investigation by the authorities and/or legal proceedings are concluded.

Please understand that some information will not be released until all legal proceedings have been concluded.

Sorry to dig up an old thread, but was the anti money laundering investigation into the 40000 USD LR transaction by Zhou ever completed?

If so, what was the outcome and where did the funds go?

[MPOE-PR]

Sorry to dig up an old thread, but was the anti money laundering investigation into the 40000 USD LR transaction by Zhou ever completed?

If so, what was the outcome and where did the funds go?

Riiight.

[danieldaniel]

Sorry to dig up an old thread, but was the anti money laundering investigation into the 40000 USD LR transaction by Zhou ever completed?

If so, what was the outcome and where did the funds go?

The funds are safely in Zhou's bank/Bitcoin account/wallet.

[BitBuster]

Apologies for another resurrection, but did ZT get away with it or did "Chen" actually exist?


BB.

[Matthew N. Wright]

Apologies for another resurrection, but did ZT get away with it or did "Chen" actually exist?


BB.

He still maintains that AurumXChange is holding those funds. You can ask them what they did with the money.

[repentance]

Apologies for another resurrection, but did ZT get away with it or did "Chen" actually exist?


BB.

He still claims that AurumXChange is holding his funds. Ask them what they did with the money.

He claimed they were not his funds - that they resulted from a transaction he conducted on behalf of a friend.  Then he strangely told AurumXChange that they could refund those coins to Bitcoinica.  They pretty much can't do anything without being able to determine the true ownership of those funds.  

If Zhou maintains they aren't his, then he can't authorise their release to anyone - including Bitcoinica.  If they are his own legitimate funds, then there's no reason he would authorise their release to anyone else - and he should have no problem proving to AurumXChange that they are his own legitimate funds.

The extent to which Zhou has been protected throughout the whole Bitcoinica debacle is truly sickening.