The no ad-sigs posters allowed topic - come and not be annoyed by rubbish posts

[jonald_fyookball]

how do ad sig campaigns benefit the forum?

why not just force advertisers to buy ad space from the forum directly?

[inBitweTrust]

how do ad sig campaigns benefit the forum?

why not just force advertisers to buy ad space from the forum directly?

There are conflicting interests at play and not all of them profit driven. Some reasons being a free speech issue , some reasons being that some staff and moderators are likely involved in certain companies that run sig campaigns and don't want to have to pay a higher cpm, and others likely fear a sharp drop off in new members and traffic to this site.

The last item is what allows them to charge higher fees to paid advertisers and they don't want to spoil that even though they could potentially gain more money by forcing certain sig campaigns to by adspace directly with them.

[orsotheysaid]

how do ad sig campaigns benefit the forum?

why not just force advertisers to buy ad space from the forum directly?

Well, as far as I know its the only legit way to get bitcoin since faucets are a waste of time. It's normal that some people shitpost a bit sometimes. The guys on sig campaigns are redistributing bitcoin to poor fellows. Specially if the guy is in a country like Indonesia or god knows where, these guys could be getting money way above minimum salary. So for me the sig campaign runners are doing god's work by letting people get small but decent amounts of bitcoin. Not everyone is a great coder or whatever that can offer profesional services in this very competitive world. And most people with regular jobs dont have the time to work part time to get bitcoin or risk their small salaries it.

[DannyHamilton]

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if you want a "nice experience" on this forum now you have to either spend most of your time clicking Ignore for every ad-sig poster
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Save yourself a lot of clicking.

This link should take you to your personal ignore list:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;sa=ignprefs

Then just copy and paste the 323 names from my ignore list into your own. When I just looked, I was surprised to find there were only 323 names.  I expected it to by more than 1,000.

My current ignore list:

Code:

Decksperiment
bitpop
Anders
rupy
RobertRibbeck
becoin
the founder
Edward50
the joint
smoothie
onis_uk
ajareselde
Bitsky
2112
Viceroy
DrG
ElectricMucus
LoupGaroux
Come-from-Beyond
jeffersonairplane
Cranky4u
MPOE-PR
DubFX
vm1990
Beymond
mem
Justin00
kuverty
Entropy-uc
zyk
solareclipse64236
bigasic
Gyrsur
MichaelBliss
SteamGamesBTC.com
onealfa
kingcolex
Atlas
PuertoLibre
oli123123
subSTRATA
oceans
Rob E
koelen3
crazyearner
remotemass
Xch4ng3
rapidfire187
zahra4571
btcusr
Razick
bryant.coleman
SouthernComfort
sublime5447
Actor_Tom_Truong
rastaj
0dayatciyam.org
Parazyd
townf
ironcross360
BTCBUDDY1
David Latapie
UncleBuckRIU
Bitcoin Megastore
galbros
mai77
hellscabane
turvarya
ALToids
digitalindustry
HeroC
Paleus
ashleysly
byt411
wopwop
AnonyMint
freedomno1
countryfree
superbitguy
Twipple
RDMINER
elebit
legendster
UtahNewbie
qwerty555
magicmexican
deadley
puffpuffpass
bitcoinplay
Loozik
Fernandez
nwfella
Brewins
cryptocoiner
jeffhuys
medUSA
zimmah
DolanDuck
Eamorr
Rannasha
pedrog
JohnRambo
Mitchełł
miningman69
souspeed
JohnyBigs
superresistant
niothor
CEG5952
NewLiberty
awesome31312
bl4kjaguar
minerpumpkin
Spayse
smaragda
makebitcoin
crumbs
Baitty
mistercoin
InwardContour
DannyElfman
ShakyhandsBTCer
joshraban76
WaverleyStreet
cowanjeffrey93
coinpr0n
tryptamind
thermos
fleabag
Harley997
CAMTRONNNNN
acs267
erikalui
activebiz
Kyraishi
littlemisszigzag114
jacktheking
TheoryOfBitcoin
jambola2
lucolo
cxboyminer
gwedo
TheGambler
zhinkk
Sniar
Bralex
arallmuus
havecoch
dbshck
saif92
gondel
TKeenan
ANiceJewishBoy
godislove
tins
MoreBloodWine
Dealazer
hdbuck
buggrock
roslinpl
beetcoin
Musent
AuroraHF
Lucky Cris
elephantas1
ljudotina
sgk
7Priest7
Buziss
no141
giveBTCpls
Skele
moriartybitcoin
Cryptopher
mezmerizer9
EcuaMobi
soumyasmruti
sifter
Sheldor333
TrailingComet
RJX
iluvpie60
wadili89
Acidyo
nishtrip15
Initscri
trynmpo
keithers
CryptoCurrencyInc.com
d2dtk
dquancey
debuni
williamj2543
unsoindovo
Cryptogirl82
Glizlack
CaptainBeck
tss
newIndia
Gianluca95
Lox500
Mrrr
lynn_402
Gazza1
thethingis
redsn0w
Reynaldo
youngmike
cech4204a
Jackson_cali
boumalo
Sydboy
mattboldfield
ipoomyself
Biodom
MICRO
franckuestein
cryptocurrencylive
antibitcoinconsortium
unamis76
whatsthestory
derpberp
Relnarien
sugarpuff
bobos15
Hazir
Snorek
croato
turtlehurricane
Slark
Polycoin
Malin Keshar
e1ghtSpace
NeuroticFish
unlock.mk
leex1528
melody82
Ingatqhvq
Agestorzrxx
PolarPoint
Nerazzura
Ron~Popeil
skooter
madmat
Bitcoin Magazine
Gyfts
toinewx
CrapMan
1Referee
cryptworld
picolo
bitkilo
xingming
paradoxal420
Jr65
najzenmajsen
RocketSingh
Honeybooboo
Kprawn
E-C.Guru
ezimedia
Umer
alistar
ranochigo
Febo
ThomasCrowne
polynesia
paythrough_team
xcapator
caga
nextblast
gbooz
Impros88
BanksWorstFear
Q7
kolloh
irfan_pak10
Possum577
fitraok09
AnswerQuestion
Rum152
pitham1
coinableS
BitcoinCitizen86403
mllenios
twister
Stargazer
rikfredsy
krigger
ikydesu
9kv
tilray
Chuckee
BigGameCAsino
SamTsuedo
finnile
bitcoinwilldie
cheekychap
noma
bitcoindiediedie
LordSonjai
AtheistAKASaneBrain
BillyBobZorton
thejaytiesto
manselr
oblivi
pereira4
BitMos
dragonlord123
UnunoctiumTesticles
dsly
Herbert2020
MakingMoneyHoney
rsky
GratefulCoin
Muuurrrrica!
lenok
SargeR33
tafflesnout
Arnab biswas
Coin-Analytics
Passprot
michinzx

Voila!  A much more pleasant bitcointalk experience.

I've also decided today to keep a separate list offline of the people that I have chosen to "unignore" (those who have demonstrated an ability to consistently create worthwhile posts even though they are participating in a sig campaign).  That way I won't keep accidentally adding them to my ignore list and having to re-remove them.

Note: There are some people on my ignore list for reasons other than sig ad spam.  You may want to quickly review the list before adding it to your own to avoid ignoring someone that you recognize as posting stuff that you like to read.  Generally you get on my ignore list in one of the following 8 ways:

• You have participated in a sig ad campaign
• You have had a sig that I mistakenly thought was part of a sig ad campaign
• You have consistently acted as a troll
• You have consitently acted to start a flame or to increase and continue an existing flame
• You have consistently posted nonsense or ridiculous "facts"
• You have exceeded my patience in your refusal to pay attention to something that was being explained to you
• You have made aggressive and threatening posts
• You have exceeded my patience with posts that contained profanity and offensive language

[onemorebtc]

- snip -
if you want a "nice experience" on this forum now you have to either spend most of your time clicking Ignore for every ad-sig poster
- snip -

Save yourself a lot of clicking.

This link should take you to your personal ignore list:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;sa=ignprefs

Then just copy and paste the 323 names from my ignore list into your own. When I just looked, I was surprised to find there were only 323 names.  I expected it to by more than 1,000.

My current ignore list:

Code:

Decksperiment
bitpop
Anders
rupy
RobertRibbeck
becoin
the founder
Edward50
the joint
smoothie
onis_uk
ajareselde
Bitsky
2112
Viceroy
DrG
ElectricMucus
LoupGaroux
Come-from-Beyond
jeffersonairplane
Cranky4u
MPOE-PR
DubFX
vm1990
Beymond
mem
Justin00
kuverty
Entropy-uc
zyk
solareclipse64236
bigasic
Gyrsur
MichaelBliss
SteamGamesBTC.com
onealfa
kingcolex
Atlas
PuertoLibre
oli123123
subSTRATA
oceans
Rob E
koelen3
crazyearner
remotemass
Xch4ng3
rapidfire187
zahra4571
btcusr
Razick
bryant.coleman
SouthernComfort
sublime5447
Actor_Tom_Truong
rastaj
0dayatciyam.org
Parazyd
townf
ironcross360
BTCBUDDY1
David Latapie
UncleBuckRIU
Bitcoin Megastore
galbros
mai77
hellscabane
turvarya
ALToids
digitalindustry
HeroC
Paleus
ashleysly
byt411
wopwop
AnonyMint
freedomno1
countryfree
superbitguy
Twipple
RDMINER
elebit
legendster
UtahNewbie
qwerty555
magicmexican
deadley
puffpuffpass
bitcoinplay
Loozik
Fernandez
nwfella
Brewins
cryptocoiner
jeffhuys
medUSA
zimmah
DolanDuck
Eamorr
Rannasha
pedrog
JohnRambo
Mitchełł
miningman69
souspeed
JohnyBigs
superresistant
niothor
CEG5952
NewLiberty
awesome31312
bl4kjaguar
minerpumpkin
Spayse
smaragda
makebitcoin
crumbs
Baitty
mistercoin
InwardContour
DannyElfman
ShakyhandsBTCer
joshraban76
WaverleyStreet
cowanjeffrey93
coinpr0n
tryptamind
thermos
fleabag
Harley997
CAMTRONNNNN
acs267
erikalui
activebiz
Kyraishi
littlemisszigzag114
jacktheking
TheoryOfBitcoin
jambola2
lucolo
cxboyminer
gwedo
TheGambler
zhinkk
Sniar
Bralex
arallmuus
havecoch
dbshck
saif92
gondel
TKeenan
ANiceJewishBoy
godislove
tins
MoreBloodWine
Dealazer
hdbuck
buggrock
roslinpl
beetcoin
Musent
AuroraHF
Lucky Cris
elephantas1
ljudotina
sgk
7Priest7
Buziss
no141
giveBTCpls
Skele
moriartybitcoin
Cryptopher
mezmerizer9
EcuaMobi
soumyasmruti
sifter
Sheldor333
TrailingComet
RJX
iluvpie60
wadili89
Acidyo
nishtrip15
Initscri
trynmpo
keithers
CryptoCurrencyInc.com
d2dtk
dquancey
debuni
williamj2543
unsoindovo
Cryptogirl82
Glizlack
CaptainBeck
tss
newIndia
Gianluca95
Lox500
Mrrr
lynn_402
Gazza1
thethingis
redsn0w
Reynaldo
youngmike
cech4204a
Jackson_cali
boumalo
Sydboy
mattboldfield
ipoomyself
Biodom
MICRO
franckuestein
cryptocurrencylive
antibitcoinconsortium
unamis76
whatsthestory
derpberp
Relnarien
sugarpuff
bobos15
Hazir
Snorek
croato
turtlehurricane
Slark
Polycoin
Malin Keshar
e1ghtSpace
NeuroticFish
unlock.mk
leex1528
melody82
Ingatqhvq
Agestorzrxx
PolarPoint
Nerazzura
Ron~Popeil
skooter
madmat
Bitcoin Magazine
Gyfts
toinewx
CrapMan
1Referee
cryptworld
picolo
bitkilo
xingming
paradoxal420
Jr65
najzenmajsen
RocketSingh
Honeybooboo
Kprawn
E-C.Guru
ezimedia
Umer
alistar
ranochigo
Febo
ThomasCrowne
polynesia
paythrough_team
xcapator
caga
nextblast
gbooz
Impros88
BanksWorstFear
Q7
kolloh
irfan_pak10
Possum577
fitraok09
AnswerQuestion
Rum152
pitham1
coinableS
BitcoinCitizen86403
mllenios
twister
Stargazer
rikfredsy
krigger
ikydesu
9kv
tilray
Chuckee
BigGameCAsino
SamTsuedo
finnile
bitcoinwilldie
cheekychap
noma
bitcoindiediedie
LordSonjai
AtheistAKASaneBrain
BillyBobZorton
thejaytiesto
manselr
oblivi
pereira4
BitMos
dragonlord123
UnunoctiumTesticles
dsly
Herbert2020
MakingMoneyHoney
rsky
GratefulCoin
Muuurrrrica!
lenok
SargeR33
tafflesnout
Arnab biswas
Coin-Analytics
Passprot
michinzx

Voila!  A much more pleasant bitcointalk experience.

I've also decided today to keep a separate list offline of the people that I have chosen to "unignore" (those who have demonstrated an ability to consistently create worthwhile posts even though they are participating in a sig campaign).  That way I won't keep accidentally adding them to my ignore list and having to re-remove them.

Note: There are some people on my ignore list for reasons other than sig ad spam.  You may want to quickly review the list before adding it to your own to avoid ignoring someone that you recognize as posting stuff that you like to read.  Generally you get on my ignore list in one of the following 8 ways:

• You have participated in a sig ad campaign
• You have had a sig that I mistakenly thought was part of a sig ad campaign
• You have consistently acted as a troll
• You have consitently acted to start a flame or to increase and continue an existing flame
• You have consistently posted nonsense or ridiculous "facts"
• You have exceeded my patience in your refusal to pay attention to something that was being explained to you
• You have made aggressive and threatening posts
• You have exceeded my patience with posts that contained profanity and offensive language

good list; wondering why my old account flower1024 is not there
but... David Latapie? why?

[DannyHamilton]

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but... David Latapie? why?

Perhaps he has participated in a sig ad campaign?

- snip -
Generally you get on my ignore list in one of the following 8 ways:

• You have participated in a sig ad campaign

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[CoinCidental]

I am getting so sick of seeing pointless, rubbish ad-sig posts in every single topic on this forum that I have started this topic just to allow others that have something that might be of any actual interest to others to post in.

Rules are:

1. If you have an ad-sig then I will delete your post no matter how "relevant" you think it is (go and post somewhere else - you have plenty of places to do that and I am sick of you guys trying to "defend yourselves").

2. If you post crap or abuse I'll delete that too.

Let's see if it is possible to actually have some enlightened posts on this forum again.

this thread is a breath of fresh air ,it makes more sense than the mindless drivel in most of the other threads combined
hopefully more people will self moderate threads to get away from this spam problem ,its really turned the forum to shit compared to what it was like a couple of years back

[Tsquared]

Reading through this thread feels like being on a different forum. it's really hard to get much value from most threads because it just takes too much time to wade past all the nonsense posts, and some signatures are very distracting.

It seems that people who pay for signature space and posts would get better value if they paid per word instead of per post, or maybe required a minimum number of words per post. I'm starting to see "daily" threads where people are posting stuff like "last drink you had" or "last movie you watched" on a daily basis, and these entire threads are mostly useless, but in reality the people who pay for posts in these threads, and ignored posts, are wasting their money.

TT

[Harry Hood]

It's ironic that you set up this thread to allow discussion from people that don't have ad-sigs yet you've spent majority of the conversation talking about people that have ad sigs.

[CIYAM]

It's ironic that you set up this thread to allow discussion from people that don't have ad-sigs yet you've spent majority of the conversation talking about people that have ad sigs.

Indeed (welcome to bring something more interesting to this quiet corner for discussion).

[Harry Hood]

Okay, I'm newer to the forum and still new to bitcoin. What do you find to be the most current developments with bitcoin?

At my first glance it seemed like once the infrastructure exists there's not much enhancement needed, but I'm also not a fool to technology...there's always innovation around the corner. What's being innovated upon in the community today?

[CIYAM]

One of the next big steps is the idea of extending consensus to handle much more sophisticated "smart contracts" (which technologies such as Ethereum and AT are addressing by providing "Turing complete transactions") as although Bitcoin has quite a few neat features (such as M of N sig txs) its Script language was purposely designed not to support that.

(others note we have "moved on" from discussing about "ad sigs" so please don't bother bringing that up again or the post will also be deleted)

[Harry Hood]

I think all of that went over my head, guess I have some searching and reading to do around this forum.

What do you think is the most valuable element of the bitcoin technology, infrastructure or idea? If (free society forbid) the altcurrency ends up going down, what's the one thing to keep alive?

[inBitweTrust]

What do you think is the most valuable element of the bitcoin technology, infrastructure or idea? If (free society forbid) the altcurrency ends up going down, what's the one thing to keep alive?

Decentralized Sovereignty. This is why bitcoin will always be valuable even if a large government attempts to replicate and compete directly with their own cryptocurrency.

Okay, I'm newer to the forum and still new to bitcoin. What do you find to be the most current developments with bitcoin?

At my first glance it seemed like once the infrastructure exists there's not much enhancement needed, but I'm also not a fool to technology...there's always innovation around the corner. What's being innovated upon in the community today?

0.10.0 was just released with these improvements - https://bitcoin.org/en/release/v0.10.0
0.11 will likely include block pruning allowing people to run a full node with only 1 GB of storage space

Other BIPs-
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips

Very interesting projects being developed/released as well that interact and depend upon bitcoin. Here is a small sample of the most interesting ones to me-

https://www.vinumeris.com/lighthouse
https://openbazaar.org/
http://impulse.is/
http://www.blockstream.com/
https://www.darkwallet.is/
https://github.com/petertodd/bips/blob/checklocktimeverify/bip-checklocktimeverify.mediawiki

[CIYAM]

The key thing that Bitcoin has brought to us is "decentralised consensus" (sometimes called the "Byzantine Generals problem" or perhaps more commonly the "double spending problem").

Prior to Bitcoin there was basically no solution to the dilemma of trust when each node you are connected to could be dishonest. This was the "genius" that Satoshi brought us (he didn't invent anything else really).

The very idea of a blockchain is something that no accountant would ever come up with (as no traditional accounting system has ever worked this way).

Other ways of being able to provide such consensus are now being built and tested and although nothing can ever take away from Satoshi's invention I think that other approaches (that don't need so much energy consumption) will likely end up being the future (although I would not be surprised to see Bitcoin remain as "digital gold" for a very long time).

The PoS approach is not one that I particularly like but there are other approaches (such as Ripple and such as the new proof that CIYAM plans to unveil soon) that hold promise (it's still not clear what method Ethereum plan to launch with).

[inBitweTrust]

(it's still not clear what method Ethereum plan to launch with).

They settled upon a Dagger-Hashimoto hybrid PoW optimised for GPU's and ASIC resistant for ver 1, but Vitalik will probably want to switch the algo to some TaPoS variant as soon as possible(perhaps even late 2015). Gavin Wood appears to prefer PoW and Vitalik loves spending a lot of time considering everything besides PoW.

[CIYAM]

I think Vitalik is wise to consider other approaches and (once we publish the paper) I think he might be interested to study what CIYAM has come up with.

We'd love to publish it now but unfortunately CIYAM doesn't have the 15M budget of that project so we have to wait until they have committed before we can "show our cards" (but it will be published prior to the publicly announced release of our blockchain software).

[gogxmagog]

lol
I had participated in a few sig campaigns for a few months now. The first one ran out and didnt bother informing me. The second one kicked me because I got a 5 day ban for drunkenly posting gibberish... To tell you the truth, I'm happier. The tiny amount of BTC I earned was not worth the relentless searching for something to post. Half the threads in here are obviously started by sig-puppets, maybe 75% (at least) of all posts everywhere are bullshit post-count padding. Frankly, I don't think anyone can read and participate in this level of idiotic posting without sort-of losing his mind a little.

Now that I'm not in any sig campaign I actually post about 4 or 5 times a week. If there is action in areas I am actually involved in (I am invested in a few securities) I might post as many as 10 times a week. It doesn't go near the 50+ post weekly required for some of the better paying sig campaigns. I go outside, breath fresh air, feel the sun on my face. Its magnificent to be free!

That said, there is no reason that a sig campaign poster can't find something at least remotely interesting, helpful, or constructive to say. They should do everyone a service and hang out in the n00b section and just look for questions that they can answer. Only problem is-most sig-retards are total n00bs themselves. Prolly gold-farm slaves who make 3 cents a day posting across multiple accounts and work out of some slum in india.

[hikedoon]

   I read an article about cutting down sock-puppet account's and was wondering if this idea would work for this forum CIYAM?
     It seems a good idea to me but i'm a computer illiterate.

 Another non-transactional application of Bitcoin is being developed by Joe Cascio, a semi-retired software engineer living in Connecticut. Cascio calls his innovation "collateralized identity," which he initially developed to address the problem of sockpuppetry on online forums. Because creating new accounts on online services is often free and easy, one individual can conjure up many different identities and use them to harass, spam, or otherwise annoy other users. Suspending sockpuppet accounts does little to address the problem because a malicious user will simply create new ones in their place.

Online forums have tried to defeat sockpuppetry by requiring account holders to use their real identities or by allowing pseudonymous usernames but charging a membership fee to deter one person from creating more than one account. But Cascio has developed a system allowing users to log into websites pseudonymously using Bitcoin addresses. What this means is that a website owner can restrict who can create an account based on the user's current Bitcoin balance, or even her balance history.

For example, a site might require that new users must have at least 30 days of a continuous balance of the Bitcoin equivalent of $100 associated with the address he is using for his ID. That $100 is not a membership fee you have to pay, only an average balance one has to carry for each account. That makes multiple accounts a very expensive proposition for malicious users, while remaining inexpensive for average users. Only because Bitcoin's ledger is public can the site verify that a user does indeed meet its collateral requirements.

"The fact that you can observe the history of a Bitcoin address is important because it means that you can't play Three Card Monte with IDs," says Cascio. Otherwise, a malicious user might simply move money around to different Bitcoin addresses before creating new accounts.

While Cascio only intended to address the sockpuppet issue, he has since discovered that his invention essentially leverages Bitcoin to create pseudonymous identities tied to something akin to publicly verifiable "credit histories"--something that has potential implications far beyond blocking Internet jerks.

This is the link to the article.
  http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Bitcoin%3A+more+than+money%3A+the+digital+protocol+promises+to+change...-a0374098870

[Kakmakr]

So you just suggested to exclude poor people from joining forums on the internet? ^Frown^
That is NOT the way to solve this problem.

Set down strict rules for spamming on signature campaigns and be done with it. The biggest problem now is, people who host these signature campaigns, set high minimum post limits and members post rubbish to adhere to it.

Or if you really feel strongly about this, make a donation to this attempt to stop spam :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=918799.0