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satoshi was only new in the tech, but as virtual currency i believe egold was the first
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February 20, 2015, 02:42:53 AM |
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Yeah, Adam Back and Hal Finney were equally impressive.
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February 20, 2015, 03:59:58 AM |
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WOW Gold is the original crypto! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQt0AuZY.jpg&t=665&c=WKn_9zD2r0FX9Q)
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February 20, 2015, 04:50:52 AM |
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Yes, loads of people are Asian! In fact, there are more of them than any other race.
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February 20, 2015, 06:24:28 AM |
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The humans who discovered fire or the wheel. No one knows their names either.
WRONG. it is not about their names, back then history was recorded in picture form not words which you can see on rocks now, so we might even know their names ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) no they are not anonymous
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February 20, 2015, 07:38:06 AM |
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I am thinking about a person who made a huge intellectual contribution to humanity but his identity is unknown. Is this a first in history? His contribution is like that of the great scientists (e.g. Louis Pasteur, Edwin Hubble and Avicenna).
You forgot Dennis Ritchie ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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February 20, 2015, 07:46:07 AM |
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I am thinking about a person who made a huge intellectual contribution to humanity but his identity is unknown. Is this a first in history? His contribution is like that of the great scientists (e.g. Louis Pasteur, Edwin Hubble and Avicenna).
You forgot Dennis Ritchie ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Dennis Ritchie is in a tier all on his own.
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February 20, 2015, 09:11:23 AM |
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I set aside a day every year as an observation to the memory of the person who invented blankets. Seriously, blankets are awesome. Give me a choice between blankets and wheels? I'll take blankets.
John Paul Jones, well known as an American revolutionary, is known to be a pseudonym. Nobody knows who he was before he emigrated from England; probably some kind of petty crook.
On the intellectual side of things, I suppose in another six centuries we'll still be arguing about who wrote under the pseudonym William Shakespeare and who coded under the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto.
Has Grigory Rasputin ever been definitively associated with a birth record? Didn't he appear out of nowhere claiming to be some hundreds of years old?
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February 20, 2015, 09:26:21 AM |
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February 21, 2015, 06:43:04 AM |
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The one Who made the programming language C Dennis Ritchie was really ignored. That should read "died within the same week". And yea, I pretty much agree with it. Disgraceful with both media and culture.
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March 07, 2015, 08:08:48 AM |
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Satoshi is unique in that we don't know his identity and his invention is a modern one. We don't know who invented the clock, or the wheel, or the bow, or the fish hook, or the alphabet, or the Arabic number system but it's likely that this is due to the inventors having lived in a time and place that we no longer have records of. Someone else mentioned the Truecrypt developers but unlike Satoshi, the Truecrypt developers did not actually make any new intellectual contributions to humanity. They simply applied existing concepts already known at the time. Vincent Durham, the founder of Namecoin, the first alt coin, is also unknown and 'disappeared'. I wouldn't be surprised if he's the same guy as Satoshi anyway.
Pseudonymous developers are quite common in the altcoin world although the vast, vast majority of altcoins don't really constitute a "huge intellectual contribution to humanity". Namecoin is one of the better altcoins however and they did manage to solve Zooko's triangle. Sunny King is the pseudonym of an anonymous dev who developed Primecoin and Peercoin. Primecoin was the first altcoin to use the mining process for a scientific purpose and Peercoin was the first coin to implement proof-of-stake. As for lesser altcoins, Auroracoin's founder is a pseudonym. Same goes for NXT's BCNext who left almost immediately after releasing the code. The identity of Qora's dev is unknown too. The original CryptoNote devs who created Bytecoin are also pseudonymous.
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March 07, 2015, 09:33:43 AM |
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If Bitcoin was not the first cryptocurrency, then which one was? I'm curious.
I am sure there were probably other concepts or designs beofre, but bitcoin was the best, probably because of the concept and the use of blockchain for it.
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March 07, 2015, 09:43:12 AM |
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There have been many Elite's in every field Tesla , Hubble , Schmidt and satoshi for crypto's . i don't think in Crypto , there is someone else as good as Satoshi.
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March 07, 2015, 09:45:52 AM |
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If Bitcoin was not the first cryptocurrency, then which one was? I'm curious.
I am sure there were probably other concepts or designs beofre, but bitcoin was the best, probably because of the concept and the use of blockchain for it. There was Wei Dai's b-money, Hal Finney's reusable proof of works (RPOWs), and Nick Szabo's Bit Gold. Bit Gold was the most similar to Bitcoin and only differed in that 1. influence was determined by no. of nodes rather than mining power which made it vulnerable to Sybil attacks, and 2. the difficulty was not adjusted as mining power increased which necessitated the bundling of coins from different time periods in order to maintain fungibility. Of the three proposals, only one was actually implemented in code and that was Finney's RPOWs. There might have been others as well and the early cryptocurrency proposals shared much in common with attempts to put a cost for sending out emails in order to combat email spam which was a problem that a lot of other people were working on at the time.
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March 07, 2015, 10:10:11 AM |
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i don't think in Crypto , there is someone else as good as Satoshi.
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March 07, 2015, 12:18:46 PM |
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If we look in Satoshi as great visionary man, yes, there are many such people in human history, like Columbus, Galileo, Tesla,... If we look at him as creator of new revolutionary currency, decentralized and bank free, what can help people to become financially free, he is unique.
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If you count unknown to the general public/mainstream, I would suggest: Karlheinz Brandenburg for/with MP3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karlheinz_BrandenburgHe is just known to the industry specialists and academic researchers. His name isnt related to MP3 like Jobs, Bell, Tesla and Edison for their inventions. i don't think in Crypto , there is someone else as good as Satoshi.
Nicolas van Saberhagen +1On the intellectual side of things, I suppose in another six centuries we'll still be arguing about who wrote under the pseudonym William Shakespeare and who coded under the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto.
I think you mixed up something. Shakespeare is no pseudonym. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shakespeare
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March 07, 2015, 06:27:44 PM |
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Yes, there was a guy named William Shakespear (or Shaxpur, or Shakspeer) contemporary to the time those plays were written. He was a grain merchant whose father was a glove maker. They can find that person's absolutely identified signature only on three documents, and he spelt it differently each time. I don't believe, and I most people whom I trust as knowledgeable in that field don't believe, he's the same person as the author. Once you've written a few hundred thousand words, I suppose you've probably settled on one spelling for your own name. Also, the records at Stratford, where that person was born and raised, do not show any indication that he ever attended as a student - and if you didn't go to one of those very few schools, at that time, you were unlikely learn to write at all.
So you get a bunch of people who think the author was Francis Bacon, and a bunch of people who think it was Edward de Vere, and a bunch of people who think something else.... And nobody's got any definitive evidence.
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March 07, 2015, 07:15:31 PM |
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This is actually an interesting question. I can't think of anyone at all. I guess most people want the glory the most probably need to promote their idea in some capacity. Vincent Durham, the founder of Namecoin, the first alt coin, is also unknown and 'disappeared'. I wouldn't be surprised if he's the same guy as Satoshi anyway.
Another crappy alt dev doesn't count. These are just copycats. Intolerance of legitimately innovative/useful altcoins is an abomination unto Master Satoshi, who in his unparalleled wisdom invented Namecoin with the BitDNS proposal. Piling every proof-of-work quorum system in the world into one dataset doesn't scale.
Bitcoin and BitDNS can be used separately. Users shouldn't have to download all of both to use one or the other. BitDNS users may not want to download everything the next several unrelated networks decide to pile in either.
The networks need to have separate fates. BitDNS users might be completely liberal about adding any large data features since relatively few domain registrars are needed, while Bitcoin users might get increasingly tyrannical about limiting the size of the chain so it's easy for lots of users and small devices.
Our Founder endorsed using different blockchains for different purposes. The trendy push for Monopolist Maximalism is a recent heresy, inspired more by a desperate desire to pump the fiat price than common sense or the teachings of The Wise One. Has there ever been another Satoshi type of person?Yes, but no. Yes, there was BitGold's N.S. (Nick Szabo) before Bitcoin's S.N. and now we have Cryptonote's inventor taking us back to N.S. (Nick Sabergahen). But no, because Occam's Razor suggests they are the same person/group.
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March 07, 2015, 07:18:18 PM |
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Cryddit: You are right, sorry. I now remember I heard this before, when visiting London. I replied wrong to you, because we learned it wrong in school (the classic wrong story).
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