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Question:  Should BCX get a SCAMMER tag?  (Voting closed: July 30, 2012, 11:15:15 AM)
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July 29, 2012, 07:01:41 AM
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Here's something else I think the moderators should consider.

Failing to take any kind of action against BitcoinEXpress suggests that his action (the threat to attack LTC) is justified and that anybody else in the community can be allowed to do the same thing.

Keep in mind, although no actual 51% attack occurred, the main problem here was communication.  The moderators do have the right to moderate the level/type of communication on these forums, and allowing this type of communication can be extremely harmful to the monetary investments of the forum's members.

Due to this, I've changed my stance -- BitcoinEXpress does not deserve a scammer tag; as he points out, he did not fail to provide a good or service promised to someone else in exchange for payment, and he also claims he did not trade any LTC during his little stunt.

BitcoinEXpress deserves to be banned, promptly.  I ask the moderators to set the example right here and now to send a message to all potential members who wish to suddenly claim that they are going to commit a 51% attack or any other action in an attempt to destroy a cryptocurrency for their own motives.

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July 29, 2012, 07:34:06 AM
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Here's something else I think the moderators should consider.

Failing to take any kind of action against BitcoinEXpress suggests that his action (the threat to attack LTC) is justified and that anybody else in the community can be allowed to do the same thing.

Keep in mind, although no actual 51% attack occurred, the main problem here was communication.  The moderators do have the right to moderate the level/type of communication on these forums, and allowing this type of communication can be extremely harmful to the monetary investments of the forum's members.

Due to this, I've changed my stance -- BitcoinEXpress does not deserve a scammer tag; as he points out, he did not fail to provide a good or service promised to someone else in exchange for payment, and he also claims he did not trade any LTC during his little stunt.

BitcoinEXpress deserves to be banned, promptly.  I ask the moderators to set the example right here and now to send a message to all potential members who wish to suddenly claim that they are going to commit a 51% attack or any other action in an attempt to destroy a cryptocurrency for their own motives.

Yeah right Joint. Do you propose they ban LukeJr too. He actually did it! LOL

I wish.

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July 29, 2012, 07:37:01 AM
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Here's something else I think the moderators should consider.

Failing to take any kind of action against BitcoinEXpress suggests that his action (the threat to attack LTC) is justified and that anybody else in the community can be allowed to do the same thing.

Keep in mind, although no actual 51% attack occurred, the main problem here was communication.  The moderators do have the right to moderate the level/type of communication on these forums, and allowing this type of communication can be extremely harmful to the monetary investments of the forum's members.

Due to this, I've changed my stance -- BitcoinEXpress does not deserve a scammer tag; as he points out, he did not fail to provide a good or service promised to someone else in exchange for payment, and he also claims he did not trade any LTC during his little stunt.

BitcoinEXpress deserves to be banned, promptly.  I ask the moderators to set the example right here and now to send a message to all potential members who wish to suddenly claim that they are going to commit a 51% attack or any other action in an attempt to destroy a cryptocurrency for their own motives.

Yeah right Joint. Do you propose they ban LukeJr too. He actually did it! LOL

I know, duly noted.

But actually, no.  I don't think LukeJr. should be banned too.  If you actually have the hash power, you are free to use it however you want.  That is not a scam, it's not deceitful;  yes, it's greedy, and I think LukeJr. is a dick for ruining someone else's project, but it's not a gross misuse of communication (which is what moderators are for anyway).

I'm well aware that this is a slippery slope and is even downright unfair.  For example, what if someone says "I'm going to commit a 51% attack, be ready!" and then they actually do it?  Wouldn't that be advantageous for people to know that it's coming ahead of time?  Yes, yes it would.

But it's ironic.  I'm almost more pissed (I don't really ever get pissed, but that's besides the point) that BCX said he was going to 51% attack it and didn't than if he successfully had attacked it.  If you're going to do something, then fucking do it.  But don't cry "fire!" if there's no fire.

There are going to be people who try to 51% attack things.  That's just how it is.  But moderators can't and aren't supposed to moderate that.  They're supposed to moderate forum communication.  BCX grossly abused his communication privileges on this forum and he should be banned.  That's what I think.

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July 29, 2012, 07:51:22 AM
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The thing that I dont understand is why BCX didnt just make a post warning people about the risk of a 51% attack and what to do about it. It may have averted the attack without needing to go the drama queen route. Maybe they just like the attention  Smiley

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July 29, 2012, 07:56:52 AM
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They're supposed to moderate forum communication.  BCX grossly abused his communication privileges on this forum and he should be banned.  That's what I think.

I vote scammer labeled.
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July 29, 2012, 07:59:21 AM
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One thing that would be worth doing is silencing BCX.

They have the power to disable BCX's ability to post and PM.

Let him be a forum member but ban him from posting anything further.

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July 29, 2012, 08:35:29 AM
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... the drama queen route. Maybe they just like the attention  Smiley
Exactly, attention is a scarce recourses these days.

Baning him without trial is the only reasonable move to solve this kind of behavior.

Ignoring him does no good since too many of his post have malicious intent.

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July 29, 2012, 08:46:41 AM
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Gentlemen. I am a firm believer in the fact that you are clearly underestimating his ability to activate one of his other personalities.

Sure, you can BAN BitcoinEXpress.....but what about DannyMaddox, Laney and Kaylee Wu ?

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July 29, 2012, 09:10:46 AM
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The thing that I dont understand is why BCX didnt just make a post warning people about the risk of a 51% attack and what to do about it. It may have averted the attack without needing to go the drama queen route. Maybe they just like the attention  Smiley

Unfortunately BCX is a sad amateur hacker trying to get a name for himself. His attack exploded in his face, humiliating himself.

He's got a name for himself, but not for the reasons he wanted.

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July 29, 2012, 03:10:08 PM
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I do not agree with you here, No one was scammed..... If you sold whatever LTC because of shit talk, well that's your own fault...


If some moron starts blabbing something similar about bitcoin, MOST would laugh it off....


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July 29, 2012, 03:57:04 PM
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I do not agree with you here, No one was scammed..... If you sold whatever LTC because of shit talk, well that's your own fault...


If some moron starts blabbing something similar about bitcoin, MOST would laugh it off....


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Nope, didn't sell because of the threat. Obviously others might have, and the person used its advantages over that, for that should be scammer tagged anyhow as it has been explained a couple times around here.

I had put my miners at solo as a precaution and ate up the lies and lost out because this person made such threats.

Someone put it in these laymen terms as it does make sense. Not exact terms but something like it. Cannot recall exactly, but something like so.

"I put a gun to your head and threat to shoot you, but it is for your own good, but, I am gonna remove my pointed gun from being pointed at your head and not shoot you, I don't think it was wrong, but, it was for your own good, it is ok for me to point guns at ppl's head and threat to shoot them" Which in this case, IT has done so many times, making forwarding threats with attacking and causing harm. All I know of is, threats made against BTC and LTC and unproving facts that he compromised many pools, and we all know IT ddos'd the pools or had a hand in it. I know nothing of SC, so I cannot make a statement on SC's stuff. And I might add, IT ddos'd the bitcointalk.org forums, and admitted to it.

This entire situation is beyond unethical. And to allow such a thing is really, truly, really sad. To watch this person walk up in here and let IT do the things it have done and push ppl around like IT has done.

You know what this feels like, the big company's holding the govt by the balls. I think, bitcointalk.org is scarred to scammer tag this person in resulting of ddos'ing of the forums. In which, admins could bring forth criminal charges towards the individual/individuals.
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July 29, 2012, 04:15:08 PM
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being unethical is not illegal, being a big mouth is not illegal... Pointing a gun sure is.




People need to take this sort of talk with a grain of salt. ( Did I say that right?)


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July 29, 2012, 04:59:21 PM
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Ignoring him does no good since too many of his post have malicious intent.

You need to type less giant red text and read more posts.

I'll sum them up for you:
It turns out that BCX is just smoke and mirrors. He is not some uberhacker. He is a marketing dude from an little startup company that owns a few video cards. You can safely ignore him.

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July 29, 2012, 05:59:21 PM
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Ignoring him does no good since too many of his post have malicious intent.

You need to type less giant red text and read more posts.

I'll sum them up for you:
It turns out that BCX is just smoke and mirrors. He is not some uberhacker. He is a marketing dude from an little startup company that owns a few video cards. You can safely ignore him.

Little late on the party? lol. I will not ignore a scammer that is roaming around bitcointalk.org.
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July 29, 2012, 06:08:12 PM
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Ignoring him does no good since too many of his post have malicious intent.

You need to type less giant red text and read more posts.

I'll sum them up for you:
It turns out that BCX is just smoke and mirrors. He is not some uberhacker. He is a marketing dude from an little startup company that owns a few video cards. You can safely ignore him.

Little late on the party? lol. I will not ignore a scammer that is roaming around bitcointalk.org.

I swear, some guy could walk in off the street and claim to attack LTC and you would dump your coins.
Then you would probably donate to his Kickstarter project to found a new cryptocurrency based on red pixels.

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July 29, 2012, 06:16:59 PM
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Ignoring him does no good since too many of his post have malicious intent.

You need to type less giant red text and read more posts.

I'll sum them up for you:
It turns out that BCX is just smoke and mirrors. He is not some uberhacker. He is a marketing dude from an little startup company that owns a few video cards. You can safely ignore him.

Little late on the party? lol. I will not ignore a scammer that is roaming around bitcointalk.org.

I swear, some guy could walk in off the street and claim to attack LTC and you would dump your coins.
Then you would probably donate to his Kickstarter project to found a new cryptocurrency based on red pixels.

Alcoholics are not addicted to alcohol. They are the victims of bartenders!

Sock puppet for BCX? I can hear the sucking from here.
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July 29, 2012, 06:21:38 PM
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Ignoring him does no good since too many of his post have malicious intent.

You need to type less giant red text and read more posts.

I'll sum them up for you:
It turns out that BCX is just smoke and mirrors. He is not some uberhacker. He is a marketing dude from an little startup company that owns a few video cards. You can safely ignore him.

Little late on the party? lol. I will not ignore a scammer that is roaming around bitcointalk.org.

I swear, some guy could walk in off the street and claim to attack LTC and you would dump your coins.
Then you would probably donate to his Kickstarter project to found a new cryptocurrency based on red pixels.

Alcoholics are not addicted to alcohol. They are the victims of bartenders!

Sock puppet for BCX? I can hear the sucking from here.

Omg i was right, what a coincidence.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=96169.msg1061071#msg1061071
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July 29, 2012, 07:21:12 PM
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Ignoring him does no good since too many of his post have malicious intent.

You need to type less giant red text and read more posts.

I'll sum them up for you:
It turns out that BCX is just smoke and mirrors. He is not some uberhacker. He is a marketing dude from an little startup company that owns a few video cards. You can safely ignore him.

Little late on the party? lol. I will not ignore a scammer that is roaming around bitcointalk.org.

I swear, some guy could walk in off the street and claim to attack LTC and you would dump your coins.
Then you would probably donate to his Kickstarter project to found a new cryptocurrency based on red pixels.

Alcoholics are not addicted to alcohol. They are the victims of bartenders!

Sock puppet for BCX? I can hear the sucking from here.

Omg i was right, what a coincidence.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=96169.msg1061071#msg1061071

No surprise you lost money. Perhaps if you had read my posts when the "attack" was first announced, you would have acted differently. I was trying to make the case that there was no reason to get excited. People said I was nuts because I did not believe the sky was falling.

Now you think I am a BCX sockpuppet because some random person on the internet said so. I suppose that is what is to be expected when one disagrees with a herd of speculators.



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July 29, 2012, 07:29:41 PM
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Ignoring him does no good since too many of his post have malicious intent.

You need to type less giant red text and read more posts.

I'll sum them up for you:
It turns out that BCX is just smoke and mirrors. He is not some uberhacker. He is a marketing dude from an little startup company that owns a few video cards. You can safely ignore him.

Little late on the party? lol. I will not ignore a scammer that is roaming around bitcointalk.org.

I swear, some guy could walk in off the street and claim to attack LTC and you would dump your coins.
Then you would probably donate to his Kickstarter project to found a new cryptocurrency based on red pixels.

Alcoholics are not addicted to alcohol. They are the victims of bartenders!

Sock puppet for BCX? I can hear the sucking from here.

Omg i was right, what a coincidence.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=96169.msg1061071#msg1061071

No surprise you lost money. Perhaps if you had read my posts when the "attack" was first announced, you would have acted differently. I was trying to make the case that there was no reason to get excited. People said I was nuts because I did not believe the sky was falling.

Now you think I am a BCX sockpuppet because some random person on the internet said so. I suppose that is what is to be expected when one disagrees with a herd of speculators.

Quite frankly, I said what I said, and got curious of what you have been posting, checked out your last posts and so happened to come across that link. That's why I double posted inline "omg, i was right, what a coincidence".

I didn't lose any money. I lost the chance to gain money though. And I suppose with what ever little HR i have, I did indeed, helped protect against a false attack. Not my fault that I lost the chance to gain some LTC when now known scammers/con-artists are running around ramped here at bitcointalk.org. Lesson learned, next time I will take my first instincts and ignore it.

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July 29, 2012, 07:45:40 PM
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Ignoring him does no good since too many of his post have malicious intent.

You need to type less giant red text and read more posts.

I'll sum them up for you:
It turns out that BCX is just smoke and mirrors. He is not some uberhacker. He is a marketing dude from an little startup company that owns a few video cards. You can safely ignore him.

Little late on the party? lol. I will not ignore a scammer that is roaming around bitcointalk.org.

I swear, some guy could walk in off the street and claim to attack LTC and you would dump your coins.
Then you would probably donate to his Kickstarter project to found a new cryptocurrency based on red pixels.

Alcoholics are not addicted to alcohol. They are the victims of bartenders!

Sock puppet for BCX? I can hear the sucking from here.

Omg i was right, what a coincidence.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=96169.msg1061071#msg1061071

No surprise you lost money. Perhaps if you had read my posts when the "attack" was first announced, you would have acted differently. I was trying to make the case that there was no reason to get excited. People said I was nuts because I did not believe the sky was falling.

Now you think I am a BCX sockpuppet because some random person on the internet said so. I suppose that is what is to be expected when one disagrees with a herd of speculators.

Quite frankly, I said what I said, and got curious of what you have been posting, checked out your last posts and so happened to come across that link. That's why I double posted inline "omg, i was right, what a coincidence".

I didn't lose any money. I lost the chance to gain money though. And I suppose with what ever little HR i have, I did indeed, helped protect against a false attack. Not my fault that I lost the chance to gain some LTC when now known scammers/con-artists are running around ramped here at bitcointalk.org. Lesson learned, next time I will take my first instincts and ignore it.


So, you read what one other person said about me yesterday but did not read what I posted about the "attack" when it was announced. Well done.
I suppose I have no right to expect fair treatment from you. This is the internet after all.

P.S.There was some panic selling by people believing the wrong thing. You cannot predict to what extent people will be stupid, you can only predict that some will be stupid. You say you did not sell your LTC, then why are you mad? When you saw the price drop, you could have bought. For you it does not matter why it dropped, the opportunity was there and you could have taken advantage of it.

I really don't understand your fury.
The LTC price is back to where it was.
LTC demonstrated it can mitigate the threat of a 51% attack.
There is one less person on the internet pretending to be something they are not.
Seems like win win to me.


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