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[DarkDays]

do you understand the concept of a promo? it obviously hasn't been working to retain old players and bring in new ones, so they are working on a new system to get rid of freeloaders like you who are disgruntled with the site.

Why would you trust a future promo when they have shown that they are willing to renege on their promised rewards/promos?

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[nioc]

do you understand the concept of a promo? it obviously hasn't been working to retain old players and bring in new ones, so they are working on a new system to get rid of freeloaders like you who are disgruntled with the site.

Why would you trust a future promo when they have shown that they are willing to renege on their promised rewards/promos?

I guess that makes them like every poker site that has ever existed.

[mrcuzamano]

Dude, why are you such a cunt? I understand you want to keep playing for free and take money off a site you no longer contribute to, but how do you expect them to keep running promos for players who aren't supporting the site? they don't need to an audit because they have a proven track record of paying out very promptly and there's no indication of ill will.

 "Can you guys really not come up with the $1400-$1500 a month to run those anymore?"

do you understand the concept of a promo? it obviously hasn't been working to retain old players and bring in new ones, so they are working on a new system to get rid of freeloaders like you who are disgruntled with the site.

I used to like you razzle, but you're a real cunt lately, get fucked.

Lol at me being a freeloader.  Please tell me more about how I take free money off a site that I haven't contributed to.  Have I not earned every single krill that I have?  It's easy for you to tell me to get fucked when you didn't get as much taken from you as I did.  I have played and contributed way more to the site than you have; it's hilarious that someone who begged for stakes and used sealsdeals.info as his lifeblood is calling me a freeloader.

do I look like Pmaniac? I've never begged for a stake in my life and I used sealsdeals to offset my variance, not to mention I made plenty of money for my backers. Yes, you've contributed to the site before and made plenty off freerolls and promos. But in your own tilted words " I'm done playing on this site and I'm going to bleed it for as much as possible "

Also, I've contributed plenty to the site and will continue to do so.

[tspacepilot]

The sad truth is that we inherited a piece of software that hadn't been properly vetted by the prior management before the unfortunate events early last year. We have been way too slow to admit that. We've made tremendous progress in correcting the uncountable bugs and glitches that existed from Day One. Much more needs to be done, and we are doing it. We can't give a timeline, because we dont know how long it will take.

So, what about the old software that worked well, allowed players from all platforms, even had a custom android app working... Any chance we can go back to the good old days when the software worked for everyone?

[RazzleDazzle]

Dude, why are you such a cunt? I understand you want to keep playing for free and take money off a site you no longer contribute to, but how do you expect them to keep running promos for players who aren't supporting the site? they don't need to an audit because they have a proven track record of paying out very promptly and there's no indication of ill will.

 "Can you guys really not come up with the $1400-$1500 a month to run those anymore?"

do you understand the concept of a promo? it obviously hasn't been working to retain old players and bring in new ones, so they are working on a new system to get rid of freeloaders like you who are disgruntled with the site.

I used to like you razzle, but you're a real cunt lately, get fucked.

Lol at me being a freeloader.  Please tell me more about how I take free money off a site that I haven't contributed to.  Have I not earned every single krill that I have?  It's easy for you to tell me to get fucked when you didn't get as much taken from you as I did.  I have played and contributed way more to the site than you have; it's hilarious that someone who begged for stakes and used sealsdeals.info as his lifeblood is calling me a freeloader.

do I look like Pmaniac? I've never begged for a stake in my life and I used sealsdeals to offset my variance, not to mention I made plenty of money for my backers. Yes, you've contributed to the site before and made plenty off freerolls and promos. But in your own tilted words " I'm done playing on this site and I'm going to bleed it for as much as possible "

Also, I've contributed plenty to the site and will continue to do so.

LOL..."offset my variance"  Why are you gambling what you can't afford?  I also consider it begging when you sat in chat before every tourney spamming your shares so people give you money to play. And just because I was tilted and said "screw it, I'm just gonna play the freerolls" doesn't all of a sudden make it okay for them to cancel the high krillrolls.  I've also said similar things plenty of times before, because I tilt easily, but notwithstanding this latest fiasco, I generally calm down and continue my happy gambling ways.  This was like the 4th time in this thread you decided to attack me personally.  I don't see why you feel like you have the right to tell me I shouldn't be upset about losing all the benefits that were promised to me by the site.  Let's not pretend like the cuts didn't affect the higher krill accounts disproportionally.  I paid waaaay more rake than you, both in the past and in this current year (and I did so without panhandling) , but you somehow feel like you have the right to tell me to go fuck off when they cut rewards that you were never even eligible for.   

[NLNico]

We have excellent poker room and marketing staffs, we just didn't let them do their jobs properly until now. That is all part of the changes that started with the rake reduction. We botched the Krill Roll, now we're making that right. It all starts now.

Yeh, last message from you guys on this forum was like 8 months ago

Basically just posting in this thread few times a week should help already and is almost free. Just like "WearsMyLiberty" used to do. Sometimes when he posted info about some GTD, it actually triggered me to play some tourneys. So if you keep posting updates here about GTDs (and show it has overlay/free money for example) and other info.. it might "trigger" some more people to play.

[mrcuzamano]

LOL..."offset my variance"  Why are you gambling what you can't afford?  I also consider it begging when you sat in chat before every tourney spamming your shares so people give you money to play. And just because I was tilted and said "screw it, I'm just gonna play the freerolls" doesn't all of a sudden make it okay for them to cancel the high krillrolls.  I've also said similar things plenty of times before, because I tilt easily, but notwithstanding this latest fiasco, I generally calm down and continue my happy gambling ways.  This was like the 4th time in this thread you decided to attack me personally.  I don't see why you feel like you have the right to tell me I shouldn't be upset about losing all the benefits that were promised to me by the site.  Let's not pretend like the cuts didn't affect the higher krill accounts disproportionally.  I paid waaaay more rake than you, both in the past and in this current year (and I did so without panhandling) , but you somehow feel like you have the right to tell me to go fuck off when they cut rewards that you were never even eligible for.   

I'm not gonna keep arguing with you because its childish, but I will mention that I have nearly 100k Krill so don't tell me I didn't lose rewards as well.

I think it's clear to everyone in this room that you're an emotional fool with a vendetta and nothing that seals will do will appease you.

fite me irl bro.

[LegitPoker]

does anyone know the minimal amount you can transfer on swc?

Just 0.01 or is it 1 chip?

[mrcuzamano]

does anyone know the minimal amount you can transfer on swc?

Just 0.01 or is it 1 chip?

.01 chip.

[bojax]

So they brought back the 20k krill freeroll, but still no 5k krill freeroll?  Bummer. 

[marlais]

So they brought back the 20k krill freeroll, but still no 5k krill freeroll?  Bummer. 

Not exactly. They cancelled the last 20k krillroll a few hours before it was scheduled to run, and then when enough people complained, they rescheduled it. But going forward, no krillrolls 5k or above will run, and there is no plan to reinstate them on the horizon (or at least that's what it sounds like from their "our silence has ended" post). Maybe someone from SWC could clarify, now that their silence has ended.

[SwC_Poker]

Our entire promotional strategy/schedule is being evaluated. Again, we don't have a definitive timeline. But we are hoping that Krillrolls will return as a regular benefit for the players.

[Dogedigital]

Our entire promotional strategy/schedule is being evaluated. Again, we don't have a definitive timeline. But we are hoping that Krillrolls will return as a regular benefit for the players.

I have over 100,000 krill and I'd gladly forfeit all krillrolls and extra benefits if you guys spent the money on the glitches in the software instead.

Please consider doing so.

[RazzleDazzle]

Our entire promotional strategy/schedule is being evaluated. Again, we don't have a definitive timeline. But we are hoping that Krillrolls will return as a regular benefit for the players.

O phew!! At least you're hoping.  No way the site crashes and burns when you are hoping as strongly as you are.  Btw...I assume "we don't have a definitive timeline" just means that it's never happening?  Like the "no definitive timeline" on the new clients (promised 1.5years ago) or software fixes.  Maybe we can just all hold hands and hope really hard, and a new web/android client with proper hand history logs will magically come into existence.  

I have over 100,000 krill and I'd gladly forfeit all krillrolls and extra benefits if you guys spent the money on the glitches in the software instead.

Please consider doing so.

I will also jump on this offer and gladly give up all of my krill if you a) promise to deliver a web client within a specific time frame and b) actually do so without any major glitches or bugs.

[KareBare]

Our entire promotional strategy/schedule is being evaluated. Again, we don't have a definitive timeline. But we are hoping that Krillrolls will return as a regular benefit for the players.

O phew!! At least you're hoping.  No way the site crashes and burns when you are hoping as strongly as you are.  Btw...I assume "we don't have a definitive timeline" just means that it's never happening?  Like the "no definitive timeline" on the new clients (promised 1.5years ago) or software fixes.  Maybe we can just all hold hands and hope really hard, and a new web/android client with proper hand history logs will magically come into existence. 

Not your circus and not your monkey. You are owed 0. You have said yourself from what I've read on this topic that you are no longer a contributing member of the site. This 100% comes off as a personal vendetta. I do gamble on bit, not on this particular website. But what I will say is that there are always a couple guys like you everywhere you go. There goal is to make money, and if this somehow affects you negatively then I'm sure they were aware of that before the decision was made. I'm also sure they are aware you are not the only one who was impacted. They ultimately decided to bite that bullet for the betterment of the majority and the site as a whole. You can simply and have already done so, refuse to give them your business. Outside of that, there is not a thing you can do. Not your circus.

[KareBare]

LOL..."offset my variance"  Why are you gambling what you can't afford?  I also consider it begging when you sat in chat before every tourney spamming your shares so people give you money to play. And just because I was tilted and said "screw it, I'm just gonna play the freerolls" doesn't all of a sudden make it okay for them to cancel the high krillrolls.  I've also said similar things plenty of times before, because I tilt easily, but notwithstanding this latest fiasco, I generally calm down and continue my happy gambling ways.  This was like the 4th time in this thread you decided to attack me personally.  I don't see why you feel like you have the right to tell me I shouldn't be upset about losing all the benefits that were promised to me by the site.  Let's not pretend like the cuts didn't affect the higher krill accounts disproportionally.  I paid waaaay more rake than you, both in the past and in this current year (and I did so without panhandling) , but you somehow feel like you have the right to tell me to go fuck off when they cut rewards that you were never even eligible for.   

I'm not gonna keep arguing with you because its childish, but I will mention that I have nearly 100k Krill so don't tell me I didn't lose rewards as well.

I think it's clear to everyone in this room that you're an emotional fool with a vendetta and nothing that seals will do will appease you.

fite me irl bro.

I see that you are making a vain attempt to make a stand to the entitled child you are referring to. But I've read the last few pages of this thread and you are basically just taking the opposite stance on whatever he does. You are the more childish of the two and should consider growing up. The "fite me irl" comment is just pathetic. Grow up. I stumbled across this thread while considering giving poker a chance and Bitcoin poker would be the desirable option. However, it people like you who will ultimately impact my decision where to give my weekly Bitcoin donations. I'd rather give it to charity then give it to assholes like you.

[KareBare]

Our entire promotional strategy/schedule is being evaluated. Again, we don't have a definitive timeline. But we are hoping that Krillrolls will return as a regular benefit for the players.

I applaud you for making any statements on a public forum. You will never make anyone happy, and the people complaining about rewards are the minority I'm sure. I've yet to download the software, so I cannot comment on the functionality. But from a purely business point of view. I have noticed that the degenerates and the professionals will use your site regardless of rewards and more importantly, with an influx in casual players such as myself. It's not the bloodsucking professionals who make the site operate, it's the small deposit,  1-2 day a week players such as myself who sustain the market. Otherwise you have 100 tables open with 1 guy waiting, like I used to see when I dabbled in online poker on Full Tilt a long time ago. Promoting the site and bringing in new casual players will give the pros more income than any promotion could. Supply the new played with more regular promotions and perhaps a promotion to the professionals for current play, as opposed to those who show up for the freebies who haven't played a hand in a long time.

[tspacepilot]

Btw...I assume "we don't have a definitive timeline" just means that it's never happening?  Like the "no definitive timeline" on the new clients (promised 1.5years ago) or software fixes.  Maybe we can just all hold hands and hope really hard, and a new web/android client with proper hand history logs will magically come into existence.  

This.

A little bit sarcastic, but I couldn't agree more.  These guys' promises of stuff with "no definitive timeline" seems to mean not actually going to happen at all.

[RazzleDazzle]

Our entire promotional strategy/schedule is being evaluated. Again, we don't have a definitive timeline. But we are hoping that Krillrolls will return as a regular benefit for the players.

I applaud you for making any statements on a public forum. You will never make anyone happy, and the people complaining about rewards are the minority I'm sure. I've yet to download the software, so I cannot comment on the functionality. But from a purely business point of view. I have noticed that the degenerates and the professionals will use your site regardless of rewards and more importantly, with an influx in casual players such as myself. It's not the bloodsucking professionals who make the site operate, it's the small deposit,  1-2 day a week players such as myself who sustain the market. Otherwise you have 100 tables open with 1 guy waiting, like I used to see when I dabbled in online poker on Full Tilt a long time ago. Promoting the site and bringing in new casual players will give the pros more income than any promotion could. Supply the new played with more regular promotions and perhaps a promotion to the professionals for current play, as opposed to those who show up for the freebies who haven't played a hand in a long time.

You make fair points but just to clarify: 1) Not everyone was affected equally by the the promo cuts, and I was affected more negatively than most.  2)  I have played a lot on this site this year and all the rewards that I built up playing (which were promised to be permanent) were all cut, and I think I should be able to call them out for that.  3)  People complaining about the rewards are not the minority, they are the majority.  I have decided to call out the management publicly; there are many others who are equally as unhappy but disagree with my approach.

[DarkDays]

Our entire promotional strategy/schedule is being evaluated. Again, we don't have a definitive timeline. But we are hoping that Krillrolls will return as a regular benefit for the players.

So this means that you cut promised lifetime rewards with no plan to replace them or use that money in any other way than to put it into your pocket.  All you are saying with these vague "Stuff is being looked at" messages is that if traffic picks up, you'll reinstate rewards...which is the opposite of what promos are supposed to do.

Fire whoever is making these decisions and hire someone who knows anything about poker.  It's the only way to save your company.