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February 23, 2015, 08:12:23 PM
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When we are poor in economic and politic management ... the only issue is => We have a great army ... just to give nationalist to citizen and put the fear to avoid to be kicked out !

Russia will never miss an hypocrisis style ... after took Crimea ... Lavrov at ONU asked to add a new proposition ...

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Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov suggested that the ONU Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations among States support the provisions on the inadmissibility of unconstitutional change of government.

About this Lavrov said on Monday during his speech in the debate in the UN Security Council.

"Everyone should recognize that peoples have the right to choose their own future without outside interference in their internal affairs," - said Lavrov.

His speech coincided with the first anniversary of the change of power in Ukraine, which the country is called "Revolution dignity", and the flight of former President Viktor Yanukovych.

And how they took Crimea ? LoL , yes no weapons ... only some little green men !
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February 23, 2015, 08:20:20 PM
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We only have economic wars these days. Russia still does not have enough financial power to win these types for wars yet.
That's why we have sanctions, to keep Russia weak financially.
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February 23, 2015, 08:28:20 PM
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When we are poor in economic and politic management ... the only issue is => We have a great army ... just to give nationalist to citizen and put the fear to avoid to be kicked out !

Russia will never miss an hypocrisis style ... after took Crimea ... Lavrov at ONU asked to add a new proposition ...

Quote from: Russia
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov suggested that the ONU Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations among States support the provisions on the inadmissibility of unconstitutional change of government.

About this Lavrov said on Monday during his speech in the debate in the UN Security Council.

"Everyone should recognize that peoples have the right to choose their own future without outside interference in their internal affairs," - said Lavrov.

His speech coincided with the first anniversary of the change of power in Ukraine, which the country is called "Revolution dignity", and the flight of former President Viktor Yanukovych.

And how they took Crimea ? LoL , yes no weapons ... only some little green men !

Crimea first declared independence ("Everyone should recognize that peoples have the right to choose their own future"), held a referendum and then joined Russia since 96% of its population said "yes" to the accession.

You may not like it, but do you deny peoples the right to choose their own future?
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February 23, 2015, 08:42:15 PM
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Crimea first declared independence ("Everyone should recognize that peoples have the right to choose their own future"), held a referendum and then joined Russia since 96% of its population said "yes" to the accession.

You may not like it, but do you deny peoples the right to choose their own future?

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February 23, 2015, 09:02:23 PM
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Crimea first declared independence ("Everyone should recognize that peoples have the right to choose their own future"), held a referendum and then joined Russia since 96% of its population said "yes" to the accession.

You may not like it, but do you deny peoples the right to choose their own future?

Sure...


I'm curious why the poster is written in English? Oh, wait... This photo was actually taken in Ottawa? Then what does it have to do with Crimea?
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February 23, 2015, 09:49:11 PM
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Looks like Russia is following along the lines of NKorea. Lets just hope it doesn't become the next NK.

I'd rather say along the lines of the USSR... Did the USSR become the next North Korea?
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February 23, 2015, 10:04:35 PM
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I'm curious why the poster is written in English? Oh, wait... This photo was actually taken in Ottawa? Then what does it have to do with Crimea?

I don't think anybody here took this ballot box for the real one, nevertheless the picture sarcastically describes the situation.


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February 23, 2015, 10:09:08 PM
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I'm curious why the poster is written in English? Oh, wait... This photo was actually taken in Ottawa? Then what does it have to do with Crimea?

I don't think anybody here took this ballot box for the real one, nevertheless the picture sarcastically describes the situation.

You are intrigued that so many people came to vote (over 80%) of which 96% agreed to reunite with Russia (remember that Crimea had been Ukrainian only for 60 years)?
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February 24, 2015, 01:03:19 AM
Last edit: February 24, 2015, 02:26:08 AM by criptix
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and putin is absolutely right.

there is no war to be won in russia, else the US would already have conquered russia and sibiria.

We all know a war with/between the US, Russia and China would mean the end of the world.

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February 24, 2015, 02:36:27 AM
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They are just greedy pigs supported by their mighty oligarchy.  They'll learn the same lesson they usually do if they keep their present course.

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February 24, 2015, 02:38:27 AM
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They are just greedy pigs supported by their mighty oligarchy.  They'll learn the same lesson they usually do if they keep their present course.

Are you talking about the American pigs supported by their mighty oligarchy or about the Russian ones?
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February 24, 2015, 10:03:37 AM
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They are just greedy pigs supported by their mighty oligarchy.  They'll learn the same lesson they usually do if they keep their present course.

Are you talking about the American pigs supported by their mighty oligarchy or about the Russian ones?

All pigs are born equal.
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February 24, 2015, 10:13:04 AM
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They are just greedy pigs supported by their mighty oligarchy.  They'll learn the same lesson they usually do if they keep their present course.

Are you talking about the American pigs supported by their mighty oligarchy or about the Russian ones?

The Russian oligarchs are running away to the United Kingdom (Abramovich, Berezovsky.etc) and other corrupt nations, in order to the escape tax claims which are being brought against them.
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February 24, 2015, 10:22:57 AM
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They are just greedy pigs supported by their mighty oligarchy.  They'll learn the same lesson they usually do if they keep their present course.

Are you talking about the American pigs supported by their mighty oligarchy or about the Russian ones?

The Russian oligarchs are running away to the United Kingdom (Abramovich, Berezovsky.etc) and other corrupt nations, in order to the escape tax claims which are being brought against them.

For truth's sake, Abramovich didn't run to the United Kingdom, though he has property there, e.g. he is known as the owner of Chelsea football club. He lives in Russia, and he served 8 years as the governor of Chukotka (autonomous okrug in Russia).
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February 24, 2015, 11:21:48 AM
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For truth's sake, Abramovich didn't run to the United Kingdom, though he has property there, e.g. he is known as the owner of Chelsea football club. He lives in Russia, and he served 8 years as the governor of Chukotka (autonomous okrug in Russia).

Right now he is not in very friendly terms with Putin. Putin asked him to donate a part of his wealth to the people of Chukotka, which he obliged for 8 years. But after that he decided that it was costing him too much, and quit. He is slowly moving his assets away from Russia.
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February 24, 2015, 11:55:14 AM
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Crimea first declared independence ("Everyone should recognize that peoples have the right to choose their own future"), held a referendum and then joined Russia since 96% of its population said "yes" to the accession.

You may not like it, but do you deny peoples the right to choose their own future?

You mean this democratic way ? 96% of the population ... do you include the amount of tatars ? Do we need to recall you ... and all Ukrainian who left ... ?

96% .... here is again the proof that it has been a real "dictator" takeover !

http://uatoday.tv/news/moscow-agent-strelkov-admits-russian-army-behind-crimean-referendum-404995.html

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Iror Girkin tells Russian TV that Crimeans did not support Russian annexation


Ex-insurgent leader Igor Girkin ('Strelkov') has admitted in a recent Russian TV interview that the March 2014 Crimean referendum was forced through by Russian occupation forces and received almost no local support.

In an interview on the ‘Polit-Ring TV show on Russia's NeuroMirTV earlier this week, Girkin, who was present throughout the seizure of Crimea before playing a leading role in the Russian insurgency in east Ukraine, admitted that the whole referendum was only possible thanks to the presence of Russian troops.

During the interview, Girkin explained that Crimean MPs had been rounded up and forced to vote for a referendum on the separation of Crimea from Ukraine.

"I did not see any support from the (Crimean) state authorities in Simferopol where I was. It was militants who collected deputies and forced them to vote. Yes, I was one of commanders of those militants," Girkin told Russian TV.

The Russian annexation of Crimea in March 2014 has sparked the biggest European security crisis since the end of the Cold War, leading to a virtual freeze in ties between Russia and the EU. The Russian Federation has repeatedly defended the Crimean referendum as legitimate, and initially claimed that militant forces which seized strategic buildings and infrastructure throughout Crimea in the run-up to the vote were merely concerned local citizens.

However, Russian President Vladimir Putin later admitted that the Russian army had been deployed in Crimea prior to the referendum. Russia also denies sending regular Russian army forces into east Ukraine.



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February 24, 2015, 11:55:35 AM
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For truth's sake, Abramovich didn't run to the United Kingdom, though he has property there, e.g. he is known as the owner of Chelsea football club. He lives in Russia, and he served 8 years as the governor of Chukotka (autonomous okrug in Russia).

Right now he is not in very friendly terms with Putin. Putin asked him to donate a part of his wealth to the people of Chukotka, which he obliged for 8 years. But after that he decided that it was costing him too much, and quit. He is slowly moving his assets away from Russia.

I don't think that he would want the fate of Berezovsky for himself. This is not to say that Berezovsky was assassinated or anything of the kind. Berezovsky died in loneliness, without money, forgotten and castoff by his motherland and never truly accepted by his new one.
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February 24, 2015, 12:00:40 PM
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For truth's sake, Abramovich didn't run to the United Kingdom, though he has property there, e.g. he is known as the owner of Chelsea football club. He lives in Russia, and he served 8 years as the governor of Chukotka (autonomous okrug in Russia).

Right now he is not in very friendly terms with Putin. Putin asked him to donate a part of his wealth to the people of Chukotka, which he obliged for 8 years. But after that he decided that it was costing him too much, and quit. He is slowly moving his assets away from Russia.

I don't think that he would want the fate of Berezovsky for himself. This is not to say that Berezovsky was assassinated or anything of the kind. Berezovsky died in loneliness, without money, forgotten and castoff by his motherland and never truly accepted by his new one.
Berezovsky died because he knew too much about Khodorkovsky's business. If you'll try to find some info about his former business partners, then you'll see that almost all of them are dead now... From gas explosions, car accidents etc. Cheesy
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February 24, 2015, 12:07:29 PM
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Crimea first declared independence ("Everyone should recognize that peoples have the right to choose their own future"), held a referendum and then joined Russia since 96% of its population said "yes" to the accession.

You may not like it, but do you deny peoples the right to choose their own future?

You mean this democratic way ? 96% of the population ... do you include the amount of tatars ? Do we need to recall you ... and all Ukrainian who left ... ?

96% .... here is again the proof that it has been a real "dictator" takeover !

http://uatoday.tv/news/moscow-agent-strelkov-admits-russian-army-behind-crimean-referendum-404995.html

Quote from: RussianLie
Iror Girkin tells Russian TV that Crimeans did not support Russian annexation

Ex-insurgent leader Igor Girkin ('Strelkov') has admitted in a recent Russian TV interview that the March 2014 Crimean referendum was forced through by Russian occupation forces and received almost no local support.

In an interview on the ‘Polit-Ring TV show on Russia's NeuroMirTV earlier this week, Girkin, who was present throughout the seizure of Crimea before playing a leading role in the Russian insurgency in east Ukraine, admitted that the whole referendum was only possible thanks to the presence of Russian troops.

During the interview, Girkin explained that Crimean MPs had been rounded up and forced to vote for a referendum on the separation of Crimea from Ukraine.

"I did not see any support from the (Crimean) state authorities in Simferopol where I was. It was militants who collected deputies and forced them to vote. Yes, I was one of commanders of those militants," Girkin told Russian TV.

The Russian annexation of Crimea in March 2014 has sparked the biggest European security crisis since the end of the Cold War, leading to a virtual freeze in ties between Russia and the EU. The Russian Federation has repeatedly defended the Crimean referendum as legitimate, and initially claimed that militant forces which seized strategic buildings and infrastructure throughout Crimea in the run-up to the vote were merely concerned local citizens.

However, Russian President Vladimir Putin later admitted that the Russian army had been deployed in Crimea prior to the referendum. Russia also denies sending regular Russian army forces into east Ukraine.

96% of those who have the right to vote and came to vote. I actually don't care what a certain Iror Girkin says. Russian troops were there legally, and they did what they should according to an agreement between Russia and Ukraine in case of a coup in Kiev, i.e. took control to prevent anarchy and chaos.

Putin himself said that they at first were not going to absorb Crimea into the Russian Federation, then they had conducted public opinion polls which revealed that the overwhelming majority desired to join Russia.
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February 24, 2015, 12:12:47 PM
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For truth's sake, Abramovich didn't run to the United Kingdom, though he has property there, e.g. he is known as the owner of Chelsea football club. He lives in Russia, and he served 8 years as the governor of Chukotka (autonomous okrug in Russia).

Right now he is not in very friendly terms with Putin. Putin asked him to donate a part of his wealth to the people of Chukotka, which he obliged for 8 years. But after that he decided that it was costing him too much, and quit. He is slowly moving his assets away from Russia.

I don't think that he would want the fate of Berezovsky for himself. This is not to say that Berezovsky was assassinated or anything of the kind. Berezovsky died in loneliness, without money, forgotten and castoff by his motherland and never truly accepted by his new one.
Berezovsky died because he knew too much about Khodorkovsky's business. If you'll try to find some info about his former business partners, then you'll see that almost all of them are dead now... From gas explosions, car accidents etc. Cheesy

Yeah, you know making business in Russia in the 90s was a little risky and, err... bloody, mildly speaking. So you are going to say that Berezovsky didn't die on his own, but had been assassinated by Khodorkovsky's accomplices?
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