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February 22, 2015, 05:01:54 PM
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I almost got excited, then realized it's still only US, Canada and the UK. Way to use the word "internationally"  Angry

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February 22, 2015, 05:13:38 PM
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I almost got excited, then realized it's still only US, Canada and the UK. Way to use the word "internationally"  Angry
Yeah wtf. Make it global or dont call it international just to hype it.


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February 22, 2015, 05:14:52 PM
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I almost got excited, then realized it's still only US, Canada and the UK. Way to use the word "internationally"  Angry

If you are not from uk etc ! You can buy the product setting region uk etc by giving your friend , relative address and ask his/her to ship to you simply u bought with btc lol
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February 24, 2015, 01:02:44 PM
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I almost got excited, then realized it's still only US, Canada and the UK. Way to use the word "internationally"  Angry

If you are not from uk etc ! You can buy the product setting region uk etc by giving your friend , relative address and ask his/her to ship to you simply u bought with btc lol

I think some extra taxes will be involved in that process...Its easier to buy one with fiat at your own country for now.!

Hopefully it goes worldwide soon
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February 24, 2015, 01:36:09 PM
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When Bitcoin is on as many payment processors, payment methods, checkouts, ways to pay, ways to donate, etc is when we finally will get the mainstream user's curiosity piqued.

Eventually, some of these customers will try to find out all they can about this new payment method, some will actually attempt to give it a shot.  You get 1 convert, soon they tell their spouse, family, friends, etc, and you get the ball rolling.

That's basically this whole point right now.  To get the ball rolling, to go viral pretty much.

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February 24, 2015, 01:49:58 PM
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So now the dell is accepting bitcoin does it increase the value of bitcoin ?
International users can buy there products through bitcoins !


http://www.businessinsider.com/dell-becomes-biggest-company-to-accept-bitcoin-internationally-2015-2


All kinds of adoption should increase the value of BTC, although very slightly.

Except sadly it rarely does. It's such a shame that even the slightest bit of bad news can effect the price negatively but the price doesn't go up on the back of good news such as merchant adoption or massive investments in bitcoin start ups. It's puzzling. I don't really know what it'll take for the price trend to reverse.

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February 24, 2015, 02:42:59 PM
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you here one business starts accepting bitcoin meanwhile somewhere else has stopped accepting bitcion as payment like wordpress Sad
wordpress removes bitcoin payment option:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=965605.0

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February 24, 2015, 05:38:36 PM
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you here one business starts accepting bitcoin meanwhile somewhere else has stopped accepting bitcion as payment like wordpress Sad
wordpress removes bitcoin payment option:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=965605.0

Are they trying to dump bitcoins ?
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February 24, 2015, 05:47:13 PM
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you here one business starts accepting bitcoin meanwhile somewhere else has stopped accepting bitcion as payment like wordpress Sad
wordpress removes bitcoin payment option:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=965605.0

Are they trying to dump bitcoins ?

Not surely , they are just increasing there chances on prbablity as per scientific trade qualities
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February 24, 2015, 06:03:07 PM
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So now the dell is accepting bitcoin does it increase the value of bitcoin ?
International users can buy there products through bitcoins !


http://www.businessinsider.com/dell-becomes-biggest-company-to-accept-bitcoin-internationally-2015-2


Internationally? That's great news! I might just get something from them now
Ps- If i do , i will post some pictures here Grin
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February 24, 2015, 06:05:26 PM
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So now the dell is accepting bitcoin does it increase the value of bitcoin ?
International users can buy there products through bitcoins !


http://www.businessinsider.com/dell-becomes-biggest-company-to-accept-bitcoin-internationally-2015-2


Internationally? That's great news! I might just get something from them now
Ps- If i do , i will post some pictures here Grin


Hmm where are you from ?

Ps - post the pictures from order to shipm:)
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February 24, 2015, 06:19:19 PM
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So now the dell is accepting bitcoin does it increase the value of bitcoin ?
International users can buy there products through bitcoins !


http://www.businessinsider.com/dell-becomes-biggest-company-to-accept-bitcoin-internationally-2015-2


Internationally? That's great news! I might just get something from them now
Ps- If i do , i will post some pictures here Grin


Hmm where are you from ?

Ps - post the pictures from order to shipm:)
Netherlands but currently out of country for some work
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March 01, 2015, 03:26:26 PM
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It is definitely better than if they did not accept Bitcoin.

I think it's going to be this trend for a while. Tech companies accepting Bitcoin before the rest deem it safe. Seems logical.
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March 01, 2015, 03:39:50 PM
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So now the dell is accepting bitcoin does it increase the value of bitcoin ?
International users can buy there products through bitcoins !


http://www.businessinsider.com/dell-becomes-biggest-company-to-accept-bitcoin-internationally-2015-2


No just the opposite it decreases the value tramendously. because merchants like Dell do what i call the biweekly dell dump. I named it specifically after dell because once Dell began accepting BTC I watched the market drop a steady 20 to 40 dollars every two weeks for 6 months straight. Places like dell do not hold or buy coins and no one is buying bitcoins to specifically use on dell. Because dell also uses fiat as a payment method in conjunction with paypal, credit cards and even bank drafts, dell does not help bitcoins value it hurts it.

We dont need fiat merchants we need merchants that only accept crypto as a method of payment.

It is definitely better than if they did not accept Bitcoin.

You could not be more wrong, it would actually be a lot better if merchants like dell did not accept bitcoin. Bitcoin is not money its a transaction process, leran this, understand this, and once you do you will better understand how the bitcoin developers and this whole community totally screwed the value of bitcoins. Promoting it to coin dumping merchants like Dell and Amazon is not the way to increase its value. Giving holders places that only accept bitcoins as a payment method is what the developers should have done.

By pushing bitcoins on coin dumping merchants it has killed the value, making it less profitable to mine, as with this whole bitcoin project, the developers spend no time anticipating the future of the project, they see only the hand in front of their face, and this problem continuously kicks them in the face. They need to start looking past the obvious and plan for anything that may arise. becasue so far everything they didnt plan for has happened and negatively effected their project.

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March 01, 2015, 03:47:43 PM
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It is only Dell Canada and another country, right?

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March 01, 2015, 03:52:44 PM
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Why wouldn't every company just accept bitcoin? They can use coinbase and immediately convert it to fiat. It's not like there taking any risk and sticking their neck out by actually holding bitcoin and buying equipment or paying employees with it. It seems like a publicity stunt.

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March 02, 2015, 07:41:28 AM
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So now the dell is accepting bitcoin does it increase the value of bitcoin ?
International users can buy there products through bitcoins !


http://www.businessinsider.com/dell-becomes-biggest-company-to-accept-bitcoin-internationally-2015-2


The theory goes that a business that accepts Bitcoin usually does so by utilizing a payment processor such as Coinbase and BitPay that automatically converts the bitcoins to fiat at the exact moment a transaction occurs. This protects the business from Bitcoin's volatility since they get the exact amount of fiat required. Furthermore, businesses almost always prefer to receive fiat over bitcoins since fiat is currently more useful than Bitcoin when paying for a business's expenses such as staff, maintenance, utilities, rent, etc.

The payment processor is able to convert bitcoin to fiat by selling the bitcoins - typically on an exchange. In other words, what really happens is that bitcoins are being "dumped" for fiat and therefore, this creates a downwards pressure on Bitcoin's price. So a business accepting Bitcoin would likely decrease the value of Bitcoin rather than increasing it.

This is assuming that this downward pressure is stronger than the upward pressure caused by the positive publicity for Bitcoin as well as increased mainstream awareness - an effect that seems to have faded after so many companies have started accepting Bitcoin in 2014. Then there are also special cases like Overstock which keep some of their customers' bitcoins in the form of bitcoins rather than exchanging them for fiat.
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March 02, 2015, 07:53:47 AM
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It is only Dell Canada and another country, right?

Yep. They better try it first in one country and if it works well, they better roll it out on the whole world.
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March 02, 2015, 08:56:17 AM
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So now the dell is accepting bitcoin does it increase the value of bitcoin ?
International users can buy there products through bitcoins !


http://www.businessinsider.com/dell-becomes-biggest-company-to-accept-bitcoin-internationally-2015-2


No just the opposite it decreases the value tramendously. because merchants like Dell do what i call the biweekly dell dump. I named it specifically after dell because once Dell began accepting BTC I watched the market drop a steady 20 to 40 dollars every two weeks for 6 months straight. Places like dell do not hold or buy coins and no one is buying bitcoins to specifically use on dell. Because dell also uses fiat as a payment method in conjunction with paypal, credit cards and even bank drafts, dell does not help bitcoins value it hurts it.

We dont need fiat merchants we need merchants that only accept crypto as a method of payment.

It is definitely better than if they did not accept Bitcoin.

You could not be more wrong, it would actually be a lot better if merchants like dell did not accept bitcoin. Bitcoin is not money its a transaction process, leran this, understand this, and once you do you will better understand how the bitcoin developers and this whole community totally screwed the value of bitcoins. Promoting it to coin dumping merchants like Dell and Amazon is not the way to increase its value. Giving holders places that only accept bitcoins as a payment method is what the developers should have done.

By pushing bitcoins on coin dumping merchants it has killed the value, making it less profitable to mine, as with this whole bitcoin project, the developers spend no time anticipating the future of the project, they see only the hand in front of their face, and this problem continuously kicks them in the face. They need to start looking past the obvious and plan for anything that may arise. becasue so far everything they didnt plan for has happened and negatively effected their project.

A merchant is not an island. As Bizmark said, merchants have expenses such as rent, power, staff wages, insurance, shipping, etc. 99% of the time, these obligations must be paid in fiat currencies.

Companies such as Dell have deep interconnections with many other companies which supply the hardware and software via established supply channels. Dell might use a processor and motherboard from Intel, a graphics card from Nvidia, software from Microsoft, a hard drive from Seagate, and a display from LG or Samsung in a single computer. A Bitcoin-only policy would only work if those companies also only accepted Bitcoin (if they sold their coins then it's the same problem just one step removed).

In turn, the mentioned companies might source their parts from a supplier which manufactures the components and these companies must also only accept Bitcoin.

Then these companies might have agreements with other companies which supply the raw materials needed for computer components who must also only accept Bitcoin. This includes the company that makes platter in the hard drive or who makes the resin for the plastic, or who mined the copper/gold for the wires, etc. And that's not including all the stuff that happens in between each step too.
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March 02, 2015, 08:57:36 AM
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It is definitely better than if they did not accept Bitcoin.


Why would anyone think it's a bad thing? Widespread merchant adoption ix exactly what every wants and needs for bitcoin to become valuable as both an asset and a currency.
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