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pawel7777
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February 24, 2015, 09:45:01 PM |
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Wait, what? Have they paid ransom with tax payers money? The department felt it had no option but to pay up. Records show the department paid $606 in a money order, which included bank fees and surcharges, to a New York Bitcoin cafe. I ain't no lawyer, but pretty sure that's not quite legal what they did.
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pozmu
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February 24, 2015, 10:07:03 PM |
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Bitcoin is ideal tool for ransoms. I heard about criminals sending (paper) letters full of threats to shop owners requesting some ransoms in BTC. Anyway, these disk encrypting malware is terryfying, I heard about some Romanian guy who commited suicide because his computer got infected with this sh*t Wait, what? Have they paid ransom with tax payers money? The department felt it had no option but to pay up. Records show the department paid $606 in a money order, which included bank fees and surcharges, to a New York Bitcoin cafe. I ain't no lawyer, but pretty sure that's not quite legal what they did. They had no other way if disk was encrypted... unless it was older version of the virus which had bug in implementation of encryption algorithm that allowed to unlock locked computer quite easily.
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bcoinbilly
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February 24, 2015, 11:00:34 PM |
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I can't believe this story to be true. These things usually turn out to be untrue but this one seems to be legitimate. Hopefully this type of behavior does not happen in the future.
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February 24, 2015, 11:16:08 PM |
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The American police forces are paying a ransom? Is this from a comic book?
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I used to be a citizen and a taxpayer. Those days are long gone.
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ajareselde
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Satoshi is rolling in his grave. #bitcoin
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February 24, 2015, 11:32:56 PM |
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The American police forces are paying a ransom? Is this from a comic book?
There could be several cases where paying a ransom would be better option, and altho its by my understanding the policy of state not to deal with threats like that, if they had important files which would lead to much more financial damage, its only logical to do lesser harm and pay them. It would be interesting to know how the computer got infected in the first place, i doubt it got infected on a officialy related usage, if u know what i mean. cheers
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croato
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February 25, 2015, 04:35:38 AM |
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It is just hilarious. First time i ever hear that police pays ransom lol.
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February 25, 2015, 04:41:53 AM |
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You never know. Hahaa!
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February 25, 2015, 04:54:01 AM |
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Oh god... Cryptolocker again... any idea who is behind this virus? So far they have affected hundreds of thousands of computers, stealing close to a billion USD in total. One of the most successful trojans ever created!
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RedhatCAT
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February 25, 2015, 05:01:01 AM |
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Wait, what? Have they paid ransom with tax payers money? The department felt it had no option but to pay up. Records show the department paid $606 in a money order, which included bank fees and surcharges, to a New York Bitcoin cafe. I ain't no lawyer, but pretty sure that's not quite legal what they did. Why would this not be legal? There is nothing in the law that says governments are not able to pay bounties for services. The reason why they paid the bounty was because doing so was going to be cheaper then possibly being able to recover the encrypted data
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February 25, 2015, 05:02:09 AM Last edit: February 25, 2015, 06:15:23 AM by Gronthaing |
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The American police forces are paying a ransom? Is this from a comic book?
There could be several cases where paying a ransom would be better option, and altho its by my understanding the policy of state not to deal with threats like that, if they had important files which would lead to much more financial damage, its only logical to do lesser harm and pay them. It would be interesting to know how the computer got infected in the first place, i doubt it got infected on a officialy related usage, if u know what i mean. cheers Don't know if it is ever a good idea to pay the ransom. At least if it is only to avoid other financial damage. It sends the wrong message. Worse, it helps the criminal become even more dangerous and with access to more resources. And it creates an incentive for more people to do the same.
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February 25, 2015, 05:02:47 AM |
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I have seen this happen quite few times and it is so strange but amazing that hit police And if we look into it in a manner they are promoting bitcoins
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pawel7777
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February 25, 2015, 07:15:31 AM |
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Wait, what? Have they paid ransom with tax payers money? The department felt it had no option but to pay up. Records show the department paid $606 in a money order, which included bank fees and surcharges, to a New York Bitcoin cafe. I ain't no lawyer, but pretty sure that's not quite legal what they did. Why would this not be legal? There is nothing in the law that says governments are not able to pay bounties for services. The reason why they paid the bounty was because doing so was going to be cheaper then possibly being able to recover the encrypted data It's not a "bounty" it's "ransom". There's a huge difference between those two. They effectively paid the criminal to reward him for his criminal activity using tax payers money.
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February 25, 2015, 07:16:44 AM |
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Wait, what? Have they paid ransom with tax payers money? The department felt it had no option but to pay up. Records show the department paid $606 in a money order, which included bank fees and surcharges, to a New York Bitcoin cafe. I ain't no lawyer, but pretty sure that's not quite legal what they did. Depends, if they see BTC as a Commodity not money they basically gave the hacker a pizza as reward. Not money.
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February 25, 2015, 07:19:16 AM Last edit: February 25, 2015, 08:57:19 AM by Blazr |
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It was a police computer, these computers should have all evidence on servers not on the local drive and there should be plenty of backups, plus whoever is the admin who let this computer have installation rights should be in trouble.
Cryptolocker is quite smart in that it attempts to encrypt any network storage or any USB devices connected too. Most people usually use one of these to do their backups. About paying the ransom, I don't believe it is illegal for them to do that, I guess paying it was unavoidable in this case.
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February 25, 2015, 07:21:41 AM |
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So did the police paid the hackers? Well.. if I expect the police computer to be backed up every day. If I were in-charge, I will not pay the $500 dollar. I would pay 10x ($5000) to track down the hackers - even if it is impossible to track as it is Bitcoin.
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So sad! This profile does not appear as the #1 result (on anonymous) Google searches anymore.
Time to be active on the crypto forums again? Proud to be one of the few Legendary members of the Sparkie Red Dot!
Gonna put this on my resume if I ever join a cryptocurrency/blockchain industry!
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Nerazzura
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February 25, 2015, 08:53:10 AM |
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So did the police paid the hackers? Well.. if I expect the police computer to be backed up every day. If I were in-charge, I will not pay the $500 dollar. I would pay 10x ($5000) to track down the hackers - even if it is impossible to track as it is Bitcoin.
preferably for the appointment of the next police made a new section that specifically address the issue of IT
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February 25, 2015, 09:02:58 AM |
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This has already been posted, check for other threads before you decided to make a new topic.
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pawel7777
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February 25, 2015, 10:42:26 AM |
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Wait, what? Have they paid ransom with tax payers money? The department felt it had no option but to pay up. Records show the department paid $606 in a money order, which included bank fees and surcharges, to a New York Bitcoin cafe. I ain't no lawyer, but pretty sure that's not quite legal what they did. Depends, if they see BTC as a Commodity not money they basically gave the hacker a pizza as reward. Not money. Irrelevant. Most governments (and their institutions) have "no ransom" policy, for obvious reasons. It doesn't matter whether it's money, gold, bitcoin or pizza.
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February 25, 2015, 11:04:24 AM |
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Somebody needs to check the accuracy of the report. First thing first, if the hacker managed to lock down the computer, getting only $500 worth of bitcoin may sound too low for a ransom. Furthermore, I don't think the police will be forced to compromise when it comes to this situation.
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