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March 04, 2015, 04:31:44 AM
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So Dwolla denied me even though I sent them a scan of my (USA) passport, (Philippines) driver's license, and USA Social Security Administration card with my SSN on it. I even gave their system the login credentials to my online banking in the USA! (which I was very wary to do and probably did it only out of desperation)
Below I am not referring to the "unbanked". I think those who have a need for a bank account can get one in much of the third world. I am referring to the banked becoming merchants. I have a bank account, but the damn system won't let me easily become a merchant. Much more so for the billions who are not westerners. The issue is for example not being able to experiment and innovate with different business models without having to walk on egg shells for fear or violating your merchant provider's paranoia.
I appreciate the reply and prompt decision, so we don't waste time.
I understand you allude to other unstated reasons, but the stated reason doesn't make sense to me. I had written that I would not be using it for virtual currency and would ask permission before if ever wanting to use Dwolla for a virtual currency project. I mentioned virtual currency only to share the the fact that I am busy working in numerous areas, including Android apps. This was part of openness and relating my background as a successful entrepreneur. What have we become as a society if we have to hide things about ourselves and walk on egg shells?
I clearly described my current project to you, which has nothing to do with virtual currency and is a common upstanding online entertainment business with no dubious moral aspects.
Last night (my time in Asia) I edited my account information online to give you the url of the website of this new business. I stayed awake until 2am trying to bring the website up, but will not be able to get it online until perhaps later today.
Btw, I hope you can (at least personally) appreciate the following frankness. This process is indicative of why the autonomy of virtual currencies are going to pummel the existing banking system into the dust. Imagine a talented programmer such as myself who has generated $millions in derivative GDP being stifled by the paradigm of insecure financial systems and kafkaesque KYC theatre. There are billions of creative and innovative people in the world eager to start businesses and totally out-of-reach of this anarchic financial system. If we don't escape from that noose, we will continue to drive the velocity of money into the abyss. It is already down more than -50% since the Patriot Act of 9/11. I assume you can wikipedia the Quantity Theory of Money.
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iamback (OP)
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March 05, 2015, 05:28:17 AM |
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Thank you Alan for your reply. I intend no personal animosity to you nor any one at your company.
Yes I will disable my account now.
I hereby demand your company please kindly destroy all copies of my identification documents and also all copies of the login credentials for my online banking. Please make sure that information can not retained by any person who has access. Frankly speaking, as far as I could see on your website you do not detail your security policies and procedures.
This has been an important learning experience for me about the dystopian value of working with companies that require an invasion of my privacy and security.
Sincerely,
iamback
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> At this point we cannot continue with your account with Dwolla. You can go
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March 05, 2015, 05:33:44 AM |
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Not surprising.
I am sure that extensive studies have proven that if you dont have 6 months utility bills and deviate in any way from accepted responses, then you are mostly likely some sort of criminal. After all criminals cant get utility bills for some reason. At least that must be the logic as nothing else makes sense why this idiotic policy is being forced globally by the USSA upon all other countries. Even ones that aimed to become like Switzerland used to be (Uruguay) and of course the Switzerland of the past is no more.
guilty until proven innocent in the USSA and its territories. coming to a country near you
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P.S. In many countries only the actual owner of a property can even get a utility bill. So this essentially creates a landowner/serf system
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March 05, 2015, 05:42:51 AM |
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I attempted to deactivate my Dwolla account at the url you provided. Three attempts always generated the same error as follows. Something's wrong...
We are currently experiencing technical difficulties. This is the same error message I experienced in other cases when navigating your system. Thus I must request you manually deactivate my account. And moreover, I request you to erase my account record from your system entirely, not just deactivate it. Given the number technical errors I have observed in your system, I do not trust your computer systems with any of my private information, not even my name, email address, and password. Sincerely, iamback |
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March 05, 2015, 05:44:36 AM |
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P.S. In many countries only the actual owner of a property can even get a utility bill. So this essentially creates a landowner/serf system
Good point. We are sliding into a hierarchical top-down hell. |
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March 05, 2015, 06:04:21 PM |
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To Dwolla Legal Department:
I never performed any financial transaction nor held any monetary balance whatsoever with your company. Thus you have no need to retain my private data. And no, I am not rested assured in your capacity to protect my private data for numerous reasons which I need not detail now. Please kindly comply with my demand to delete my private data from your systems. You have not approved my account, therefor you do not need to retain my private data.
Am I going to have to hire an attorney or can we settle this matter now?
Do not bullshit me. My father is the former XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX and an expert in contract law. There is no law that requires you to retain my private data when you have performed no applicable financial transaction with me. Your TOS does not supersede fundamental requirements in contract law for fairness and mutual incentive to make a contract valid and enforceable.
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March 06, 2015, 01:51:00 AM |
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To Dwolla Legal Department:
I never performed any financial transaction nor held any monetary balance whatsoever with your company. Thus you have no need to retain my private data. And no, I am not rested assured in your capacity to protect my private data for numerous reasons which I need not detail now. Please kindly comply with my demand to delete my private data from your systems. You have not approved my account, therefor you do not need to retain my private data.
Am I going to have to hire an attorney or can we settle this matter now?
Do not bullshit me. My father is the former XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX and an expert in contract law. There is no law that requires you to retain my private data when you have performed no applicable financial transaction with me. Your TOS does not supersede fundamental requirements in contract law for fairness and mutual incentive to make a contract valid and enforceable.
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I think the USSA you remember is no longer complaining to the apparatchiks wont do any good. they just follow their orders |
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March 06, 2015, 03:13:39 AM
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March 06, 2015, 03:55:12 AM |
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Hi a lot of angry people.
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I'm a lover not a hater. I'm a scam buster misunderstood. However, this forum is full of haters which is why you see my trust. They can't handle my success so they try to stop me...BUT NO ONE STOPS MY SUCCESS! ....Find Quickseller annoying? Click the "ignore" button below his name! You're welcome!
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March 06, 2015, 05:01:50 AM |
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wow! a wall of URLS! anyway, to expect any sort of logic based response or even a response that is the right response, this is unrealistic. If you keep threatening them, soon you will appear on no-fly lists and even on most wanted lists to question the authority of USSA is a crime. Even to think about the wrong things is a crime now |
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March 09, 2015, 06:30:06 AM
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I found another alternative solution to avoid credit cards entirely, which is applicable to my site business model: I tested the web miner and I am getting about 0.8 kH/s in Firefox on my recent model i7 running Linux Mint 17, which appears to be comparable to those running a downloaded miner. Thus I assume their web miner is employing C and/or assembly code. So if their API was improved so their affiliate widget could be employed to impose a delay of a few seconds on all visitors, the bots would also experience a similar resource cost (for as long as these altcoins are not mineable by ASICs or assuming the bots are hijacked computers that only have CPUs also). However, the economics are two orders-of-magnitude less profitable compared to Captcha advertising revenue. Using their calculator or this one that appears to generate about $0.02 per hour. Whereas solvermedia.com can generate slightly less than $0.01 per Captcha view (i.e. even if user doesn't respond to the Captcha). |
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coin.mx
I thought I remembered the name coin.mx from somewhere. Found it on this old thread. New developments: Since at least late 2013, MURGIO, LEBEDEV, and their co-conspirators have knowingly operated Coin.mx, a Bitcoin exchange service, in violation of federal anti-money laundering (“AML”) laws and regulations, including those requiring money services businesses like Coin.mx to meet registration and reporting requirements set forth by the United States Treasury Department. |
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July 22, 2015, 04:59:48 AM |
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coin.mx
I thought I remembered the name coin.mx from somewhere. Found it on this old thread. New developments: Since at least late 2013, MURGIO, LEBEDEV, and their co-conspirators have knowingly operated Coin.mx, a Bitcoin exchange service, in violation of federal anti-money laundering (“AML”) laws and regulations, including those requiring money services businesses like Coin.mx to meet registration and reporting requirements set forth by the United States Treasury Department. Good for me that I never used their service then. Interestingly they had emailed me a couple of months ago asking me if I had ever used the service. TBTP are closing all the avenues for escape from their total control over all fiat commerce. |
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