Do not deposit to betvip ...

[sbrzol]

Do not deposit to betvip

I think betvip is insolvent , your deposits never will be credited to you account and  your withdrawals never will be processed


i am not a noob, as you can see in my history,  bitcoinlivebets was the first bitcoin book that steal 30 BTC from me with a fake bet, they of course disappeared some months later as i predicted

On their deposit page :


"Please send a confirmation email to support@betvip.com with your transaction details as we are experiencing temporary deposit delays and we will instantly credit your account. "   


read the story from the bottom , 
they did not reply to my last 2 emails, in which i gave them the correct btc amount and asked them to send back my deposit , that was 4 and 6 hours ago



Hi,

Send back ASAP my 1st deposit 1 BTC  to this address :  XXX that is still not credited to my account but more than 1-3 hours left (which is only a database set value, that should take only 1-5 minutes)

if i do not get it within  1 hour  i will write into your bitcointalkorg topic and other forums that you  are inslovent

have a nide day

all necesserley info see below

XYZ


-------- Továbbított üzenet --------
Tárgy:    Re: deposit
Dátum:    Sat, 28 Feb 2015 14:43:46 +0100

Címzett:    support@betvip.com


Of course you can check it by yourself

Hash
    XXX

1 BTC

https://blockchain.info/tx/XXX

i hope there is not exists other question that you can delay my deposit more time

2015.02.28. 14:34 keltezéssel, support@betvip.com írta:
> Please could you confirm your deposit amount as previously requested?
>
> Kind regards,
> Robert
>
>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject: Re: deposit

>     Date: Sat, February 28, 2015 2:56 pm
>     To: support@betvip.com
>
>     You cant find the user by its deposit address ?   
>
>     my registered email:  XXX , but i dont want to share my name with you
>
>     i can help you with this sql snippet , i hope you find it useful
>
>     select  account from database where depositaddress = XXX
>
>
>
>
>
>     2015.02.28. 13:30 keltezéssel, support@betvip.com írta:
>>     Dear Sir,
>>
>>     Apologies for this but we cant track which account is your so we can credit you. Please could you confirm the email address that you registered with as well as your deposit amount.
>>
>>     Kind regards,
>>     Robert
>>
>>         -------- Original Message --------
>>         Subject: deposit
>>         From:
>>         Date: Sat, February 28, 2015 2:06 pm
>>         To: support@betVIP.com
>>
>>         Hi,
>>           
>>         deposit address: XXXX
>>
>>
>>         Hash
>>             YYYY
>>
>>
>>         how long will it take to fix this deposit issue ?    this is my 1st deposit and it is very strange issue  , or you want to only know your customers name (from the email sender) ?
>>
>>         Since when customers have to send email to get their deposits ?
>>
>>         if you do not credit my account within 10 minutes from this email, i think i have to write about this issue into bitcointalkorg forum
>>
>>
>>         XYZ
>>
>>

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[BitcoinDistributor]

With +EV bonuses they were offering, honestly what could you expect?

[sbrzol]

They credited my account within 5 minutes after i wrote this post (in their topic )  and emailed them my post link

I replied that it is too late and send my btc back to my address as i asked 5 hours earlier , no answer  (it was 1 hour ago)

On their site there is NO WITHDRAWAL OPTION, so nobody can withdraw anythink

[MilesJohan]

They credited my account within 5 minutes after i wrote this post (in their topic )  and emailed them my post link

I replied that it is too late and send my btc back to my address as i asked 5 hours earlier , no answer  (it was 1 hour ago)

On their site there is NO WITHDRAWAL OPTION, so nobody can withdraw anythink

Wow that is bad. Can any one else confirm if withdrawls are actually diabled ?

[sbrzol]

They put their account option list above the sport menu, same color same size etc,  so i never noticed it until ...

If they answered to my emails then probably i never claim that they have no withdrawal option , (I wrote them first , but they never replied )

so now after 8 +4 hours they credited my account i will try to withdraw it

[bitbaby]

Thanks for the warning OP, I don't bet there but it might help others who do. Keep us posted.

[ndnh]

I don't really think BetVIP did something wrong. I never played there, but yesterdays blockchain freeze affected deposits almost on all sites.
If you haven't got withdrawal yet, then it is the problem of BetVIP. If you need any help, drop me a PM.

P.S. I am not related to BetVIP.

[BetVIP]

Hi everyone,

This is complete SLANDER. We have been in constant contact with this member and have even given him a full 1 BTC bonus for the deposit issues. Our customer care team have been awake all weekend dealing with clients.

Please could you stop slandering us with these ridiculous allegations. We have done everything possible to correct the deposit issues. Businesses encounter problems all the time, we have dealt with this in a professional and courteous manner and yet you still continue to slander us at every turn.

ALL deposits have been credited to ALL clients. We apologise that you did not get a response within a given timeline, even our employees have to sleep at some point!

These forums are supposed to be a Bitcoin community where constructive conversations happen. It is slander and allegations such as these that cause people to lose faith in the Bitcoin industry. Please could you refrain from further comments.

Regards,
BetVIP

[FanEagle]

This shows how much some clients hope to take advantages of casino's mistakes and hoping the casino holder doesn't notice a post about them.

[BetVIP]

This shows how much some clients hope to take advantages of casino's mistakes and hoping the casino holder doesn't notice a post about them.

Thanks FanEagle 

Its unfortunate that there are some people who only seek to discredit legitimate businesses. Behavior like this serves only to cast a shadow on this industry when we should only be promoting confidence in it!

Thanks again,
BetVIP Team

[Nobitcoin]

Looks like this is truly resolved so op lock the thread.

[Peeps Place]

Although the OP stated that there wasn't a withdrawal page, BetVIP did have a withdrawal page up for all players. Some of what the OP posted is incorrect. The OP also stated the BetVIP was insolvent.

[bitbaby]

It was just a misunderstanding as clarified by betvip due to a glitch caused by either what ndnhc explained above or for any other reason. But I don't think OP's reason to post this topic was just to slander. If I deposited 1 Btc in any casino and it didn't show up in my account, I'd be very worried as well and would think I was scammed. That's what I think happened in this case, OP tried to contact the casino, the problem wasn't resolved and then he chose to report it here. So I don't think Casino or OP should be blamed here.

OP should mark this as solved and close this topic now.

[Peeps Place]

It was just a misunderstanding as clarified by betvip due to a glitch caused by either what ndnhc explained above or for any other reason. But I don't think OP's reason to post this topic was just to slander. If I deposited 1 Btc in any casino and it didn't show up in my account, I'd be very worried as well and would think I was scammed. That's what I think happened in this case, OP tried to contact the casino, the problem wasn't resolved and then he chose to report it here. So I don't think Casino or OP should be blamed here.

OP should mark this as solved and close this topic now.

The problem I had with the OP is that he stated he would only wait one hour and then go to posting boards and state that BetVIP was insolvent. He posted in multiple threads that BetVIP was insolvent. He waited less than one hour. I feel that is irresponsible.

if i do not get it within  1 hour  i will write into your bitcointalkorg topic and other forums that you  are inslovent

[bitbaby]

It was just a misunderstanding as clarified by betvip due to a glitch caused by either what ndnhc explained above or for any other reason. But I don't think OP's reason to post this topic was just to slander. If I deposited 1 Btc in any casino and it didn't show up in my account, I'd be very worried as well and would think I was scammed. That's what I think happened in this case, OP tried to contact the casino, the problem wasn't resolved and then he chose to report it here. So I don't think Casino or OP should be blamed here.

OP should mark this as solved and close this topic now.

The problem I had with the OP is that he stated he would only wait ONE HOUR and then go to posting boards and state that BetVIP was insolvent. He posted in multiple threads that BetVIP was insolvent. He waited less than one hour. I feel that is irresponsible.

if i do not get it within  1 hour  i will write into your bitcointalkorg topic and other forums that you  are inslovent

Please read the top post made by OP.

read the story from the bottom , 
they did not reply to my last 2 emails, in which i gave them the correct btc amount and asked them to send back my deposit , that was 4 and 6 hours ago

He waited for 4-6 hrs before making this topic. Again I am not taking sides, I am just saying that it was caused by an error but the depositor did not receive a satisfactory response to his emails, after which he decided to post this topic. I think anyone in this situation would have done the same thing.

[BetVIP]

Hi guys,

Just to clear up the confusion here. The user did not wait 4-6 hours as claimed, we were in contact with him continuously and did everything we could to correct the issue. Our staff went out of their way to not only correct this but to then provide the user with a free bonus of 1 BTC.

We do not believe it is fair or warranted to slander a business with claims that are false, that is not the intention of these forums.

Regards,
BetVIP

[bitbaby]

Hi guys,

Just to clear up the confusion here. The user did not wait 4-6 hours as claimed, we were in contact with him continuously and did everything we could to correct the issue. Our staff went out of their way to not only correct this but to then provide the user with a free bonus of 1 BTC.

We do not believe it is fair or warranted to slander a business with claims that are false, that is not the intention of these forums.

Regards,
BetVIP

If this is true and OP was lying about waiting 4-6 hours then he owes an apology to you guys. The fact that he hasn't been online since then does make me a little suspicious about his intentions.

[MadeinCoin]

thank you for this information I think we need something like this in order to keep playing at the correct website

[Vortex20000]

Post in Scam Accusations.

Edit: With proof! Looks like BetVIP replied and gave their side, right now it's your word vs theirs', and their side looks more credible.

[BetVIP]

Hi all,

This issue was reported to the administrators as it was slanderous scam allegations, nothing more.

It would be great if this community all banded together to stop this type of malicious behavior from some members! 

The BetVIP Team

[MadeinCoin]

Post in Scam Accusations.

Edit: With proof! Looks like BetVIP replied and gave their side, right now it's your word vs theirs', and their side looks more credible.

 just quote her alone more information I would see the truth

[boopy265420]

Hi all,

This issue was reported to the administrators as it was slanderous scam allegations, nothing more.

It would be great if this community all banded together to stop this type of malicious behavior from some members!  

The BetVIP Team

The problem is many players they dont calculate risk of delaying plus some technical matters on any site . When they deposit or withdraw they want everything immediately to be resolved. They should wait enough and be sure before start writing against any site which is online for long time. I think we all should behave maturely when we write something.

[Peeps Place]

...........

betvip is insolvent  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=972053.0

you Peeps Place  should deposit and withdraw weekly at least one times to all your rated (above D) bitcoin sportbook  to check them

They have  NO WITHDRAWAL option on their page , did you know that ?

your work and topic  is good for nothing

The OP came into the rating's guide thread and posted the quote above.

1. OP stated that BetVip doesn't have a withdrawal page. BetVip has a withdrawal section on their first page for all players that has always been in place.

2. The OP posted in multiple threads that BetVip is insolvent. This is very irresponsible whether it is one hour or six hours and can be damaging to a business.

[Peeps Place]

This is located on the left at BetVip. It isn't hidden in any way. My quote doesn't do justice to the way it actually looks. A player can click on both "Withdrawal Wallets" and "Withdraw Funds".

Deposit
My Betting History
My Account History
Withdrawal Wallets
Withdraw Funds

[Tongkar]

I deposited okay made withdrawal of .11 and its been over 4 hours and I haven't received it yet does this happen frequently to other players or is this the norm.

[Winalunt]

They should have red tag if this is true

[BetVIP]

I deposited okay made withdrawal of .11 and its been over 4 hours and I haven't received it yet does this happen frequently to other players or is this the norm.

Hi Tongkar,

Sorry for the delay, please send me your username and I will make sure your withdrawal is processed asap.

Regards
BetVIP

[sbrzol]

Hi all,

This issue was reported to the administrators as it was slanderous scam allegations, nothing more.

It would be great if this community all banded together to stop this type of malicious behavior from some members!  

The BetVIP Team

Betvip had all necessary data to credit my account at the very first time, but they wanted me to send all known data again and again.  First time  my deposit address, next time my email address and the deposited amout , 3rd time the transaction hash , then i said "i hope there is not exists other question that you can delay my deposit more time "
This 3 rounds was very fast ONLY 2,2 hours  From 13:06 - 15:23.  
Nothing happend until i posted to the betvip topic at 20:56:29   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516644.msg10614171#msg10614171
and sent a new email to betvip with the above link at 20:58
and woala betvip finally credited my account only after this email  at 21:08   after they got 3rd time all data at 15:23, this is 8 hours from my deposit and 6 hours from 15:23

(I was wrong that betvip have no withdrawal option,  but their menu s....xxx  and after 8 hours worrying if you see a messy menu and cant found something in it then you can make an error)

I have history with bookmakers that disappeared :  my account balance at that time
sportsalive  400 EUR
betspace 250 USD
bitcoinlivebets 30 BTC  
webetcoins   1 BTC

I have questions too:  
If somebody logged in why is there the "Join Now" Button ?
When will you fix the messy odds  issue?  Do you have any web (or other) programmer who can fix this issue?  Do you have the right to modify the source code of your page?



Try to guess which team is the underdog  
Betvip knows about this "bug" more than 2 months. I sent them that email  at 2015.01.11

[BetVIP]

Hi there,

Please can you stop posting frivolous accusations all the time? We are a legitimate business and are in fact the first fully licensed Bitcoin Sportsbook in the world. The issue with you has long since been resolved, we even offered you a 1 BTC free bonus for the delay experienced in deposit. The wait time was a few hours, this is not the end of the world! Even our employees have to sleep at some point!

You are now just doing your best to slander a business that does our best to keep our customers happy. If you dont like our site, then please dont use it, its that simple!

Regards
BetVIP

[sbrzol]

Hi there,

Please can you stop posting frivolous accusations all the time? We are a legitimate business and are in fact the first fully licensed Bitcoin Sportsbook in the world. The issue with you has long since been resolved, we even offered you a 1 BTC free bonus for the delay experienced in deposit. The wait time was a few hours, this is not the end of the world! Even our employees have to sleep at some point!

You are now just doing your best to slander a business that does our best to keep our customers happy. If you dont like our site, then please dont use it, its that simple!

Regards
BetVIP

So you get the moderators to put my topic to Scam Accusations , so now i will repost my last post in your topic too. 
Next time be faster, if you promise somebody something then keep it.   6 -8 hours is not ASAP.   


Have a nice day.

Please answer : When will you fix the messy odds issue? 

[BetVIP]

Hi Sbrzol,

You made allegations against us that we are insolvent and that people must not bet with us. We replied to all your messages, we are obviously on different time zones so we apologise for the delay. The wallet deposit functionality has been fixed now.

We have many issues we have to deal with on a daily basis and our development team is very busy. We are sorry that you find the odds messy and dont like a few things on our site, we are attending to these I can assure you. There are many other more important issues we need to attend to that are business critical.

The moderators felt that your allegations were scam accusations so they moved your thread, not our decision.

If you dont like our site, then please stop using it. I can return all your funds and close your profile for you if you like?

Have a wonderful day 

BetVIP

[BitcoinDistributor]

I reported your thread to the mods because this thread is a scam accusation, is it not anything other than that.

It got moved as it should have been. BetVIP had no involvement.

Although I agree they seem shady, I think you've made your point and should just stop with it. You're starting to look like just a pissed off customer rather then someone who actually believes a scam is occurring. You got your funds, let it be.

[BetVIP]

Hi BitcoinDistributor

Thanks for the words. The only thing I would disagree with is that we seem "Shady". We are the only fully licensed Bitcoin Sportsbook in the world. We have always been open and honest with all our customers and everyone on these threads. All businesses will have issues they have to deal with on a daily basis such as DDOS attacks or wallet functionality.

If you would like any questions answered or have any issues that make you think we are shady, please feel free to ask me at anytime!

Regards
BetVIP

[panjul07]

I deposited okay made withdrawal of .11 and its been over 4 hours and I haven't received it yet does this happen frequently to other players or is this the norm.

I think this happen to all players, I requested a withdraw small amount of .02 from their new Poker client app.
And its been more than 8hours, and I don't received it yet.
What shown when I made this withdraw was "the withdraw will be processed in a few hours, in max 72hours"
Not exactly the same sentences but the same point.

[mayax]

I reported your thread to the mods because this thread is a scam accusation, is it not anything other than that.

It got moved as it should have been. BetVIP had no involvement.

Although I agree they seem shady, I think you've made your point and should just stop with it. You're starting to look like just a pissed off customer rather then someone who actually believes a scam is occurring. You got your funds, let it be.

You have to get used with that. there are many kinds around here. I would never post a reply on a forum if I would had any business.

[moonbind]

BetVip has treated me good as a poker player, right from the start!

The deposits and withdrawals are near instant [as fast as blockchain can process it]

Right now, I highly recommend you all come play @ BetVip...

[BetVIP]

BetVip has treated me good as a poker player, right from the start!

The deposits and withdrawals are near instant [as fast as blockchain can process it]

Right now, I highly recommend you all come play @ BetVip...

Thanks Moonbind!

There are some players who unfortunately just try and slander our site, it happens to all gambling sites. Its players like you who make my job easy and a pleasure though! Please don`t hesitate to contact me directly if you ever need anything!

Regards
Jessica 

[skathan]

has anyone received their funds back yet?

today is the deadline for them

www.betvip.com

[moonbind]

if you are talking about poker! - yo can deposit or withdraw the bankroll by yourself. because:
the finance is controlled by enterra front-end and it makes near-moment transactions, with confirmation to email;

so, if you have money on the poker, just make a withdrawal to your btc address anytime

if you have questions or not sure, just ask, i've been working with their system for some time and always happy!