SP10 Ignites!!! SP-T responds with lightning speed!

[AbuGarcia]

When we're talking about fire, is it safe to assume that this one self extinguished?

Negative, had to pull from rack and extinguish with wet towel. Did not want to over react and kill the room.

I just bought a 15# halotron for events like this.  I would recommend the same.  you can get them NOS for around 120-150$shipped on ebay

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[PuertoLibre]

What on Earth are you saying? How do you even know one thing about my preparedness?

When we're talking about fire, is it safe to assume that this one self extinguished?

Negative, had to pull from rack and extinguish with wet towel. Did not want to over react and kill the room.

Mom says: You look prettier when you don't say too much.

(I am really joking, but thanks for saying too much)

You could also do what AbuGarcia says, but those are pretty expensive alternatives. And consider you might not be there when it happens next time. Might want to look into a kit triggered by smoke. One integrated with a breaker box. (Halon has it's problems.)

http://www.h3rcleanagents.com/support_faq_2.htm

[whonesta]

What on Earth are you saying? How do you even know one thing about my preparedness?

When we're talking about fire, is it safe to assume that this one self extinguished?

Negative, had to pull from rack and extinguish with wet towel. Did not want to over react and kill the room.

Mom says: You look prettier when you don't say too much.

(I am really joking, but thanks for saying too much)

You could also do what AbuGarcia says, but those are pretty expensive alternatives. And consider you might not be there when it happens next time. Might want to look into a kit triggered by smoke. One integrated with a breaker box. (Halon has it's problems.)

Sounds like your mom gives good advice you should take it.

Yes problem with Halon bomb is it shit cans the rest of the GOOD equipment. If these guys like AM are planning to shove 5KW thru a board I would have to say NO THANKS!

 S1, S3 are solid had several pop but never ignite.

S5 same low power unit as S1-S3, SP20 being smaller but using the same power using 1/2 the power as SP10 leaves me feeling better.

[Guy Corem]

@whonesta contact sales@
We would like to buy the SP10 back for analysis.

Regarding SP20, we had to date zero reports of similar issue.

[whonesta]

@whonesta contact sales@
We would like to buy the SP10 back for analysis.

Regarding SP20, we had to date zero reports of similar issue.

Thanks I imagine it has a story for ya. And after looking at the SP20 in OPs, I was incorrect about the power usage, like the ant's it too is a lower power unit.

Email sent. Subject: SP10 Ignites

[PuertoLibre]

What on Earth are you saying? How do you even know one thing about my preparedness?

When we're talking about fire, is it safe to assume that this one self extinguished?

Negative, had to pull from rack and extinguish with wet towel. Did not want to over react and kill the room.

Mom says: You look prettier when you don't say too much.

(I am really joking, but thanks for saying too much)

You could also do what AbuGarcia says, but those are pretty expensive alternatives. And consider you might not be there when it happens next time. Might want to look into a kit triggered by smoke. One integrated with a breaker box. (Halon has it's problems.)

Sounds like your mom gives good advice you should take it.

Yes problem with Halon bomb is it shit cans the rest of the GOOD equipment. If these guys like AM are planning to shove 5KW thru a board I would have to say NO THANKS!

 S1, S3 are solid had several pop but never ignite.

S5 same low power unit as S1-S3, SP20 being smaller but using the same power as SP10 leaves me a bit worried.

If you do your homework on Halon and it's various alternatives, you can apply "an equipment safe" alternative to water. (hence why I mentioned the (general kit) with a breaker function.)

Halon does not always entail damage to Good equipment. If you design things properly you can avoid that without too much trouble.
Don't take my word for it, just read.

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On the S1 through S3, these are subjective opinions. You are putting yourself in an area of misplaced confidence. It will eventually happen even in the best of situations.

If you lul yourself into a false sense of manufacturer superiority then you'll pay for it big time when your time comes.

[whonesta]

What on Earth are you saying? How do you even know one thing about my preparedness?

When we're talking about fire, is it safe to assume that this one self extinguished?

Negative, had to pull from rack and extinguish with wet towel. Did not want to over react and kill the room.

Mom says: You look prettier when you don't say too much.

(I am really joking, but thanks for saying too much)

You could also do what AbuGarcia says, but those are pretty expensive alternatives. And consider you might not be there when it happens next time. Might want to look into a kit triggered by smoke. One integrated with a breaker box. (Halon has it's problems.)

Sounds like your mom gives good advice you should take it.

Yes problem with Halon bomb is it shit cans the rest of the GOOD equipment. If these guys like AM are planning to shove 5KW thru a board I would have to say NO THANKS!

 S1, S3 are solid had several pop but never ignite.

S5 same low power unit as S1-S3, SP20 being smaller but using the same power as SP10 leaves me a bit worried.

If you do your homework on Halon and it's various alternatives, you can apply "an equipment safe" alternative to water. (hence why I mentioned the (general kit) with a breaker function.)

Halon does not always entail damage to Good equipment. If you design things properly you can avoid that without too much trouble.
Don't take my word for it, just read.

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On the S1 through S3, these are subjective opinions. Your putting yourself in an area of misplaced confidence. It will eventually happen even in the best of situations.

If you lul yourself into a false sense of manufacturer superiority then you'll pay for it big time when your time comes.

Ugh man you have been of NO USE on this thread, your information is erroneous and off base, please GTH! I have had ALL miners fail, I have had 2 which have caught a blaze and failed to extinguish without intervention.

[PuertoLibre]

I'll GTH...but when you suffer the consequences of misplaced "ideas" i'll keep your seat nice and warm. LOL. Some never learn.

[MaximeAD]

When we're talking about fire, is it safe to assume that this one self extinguished?

Negative, had to pull from rack and extinguish with wet towel. Did not want to over react and kill the room.

!

I hope it would have self extinguished if you had wait..

[Bicknellski]

Glad no one was hurt.

[AbuGarcia]

Halotron is not the same as halon, halon was started to phase out of circulation more than 2 decades ago because of ozone depletion.  
So you have two choices:
Halotron
or
3M novec - which is about 300 dollars a gallon.

[whonesta]

Halotron is not the same as halon, halon was started to phase out of circulation more than 2 decades ago because of ozone depletion.  
So you have two choices:
Halotron
or
3M novec - which is about 300 dollars a gallon.

Yeah I am phasing out miners with a draw north of 1000w, in my experience that is the threshold which leads to fire. I have had the lower wattage miners burn up, but never with a resulting flame. Shrink the mine down to 20TH and hold, expansion with current return and specs on gen 3 just does not make sense. 

[MCHouston]

I like these for automatic fire extinguishing.

http://www.amazon.com/Invention-Multi-Purpos-Extinguisher-Self-activation/dp/B00I94WFKC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1425270096&sr=8-1&keywords=Fire+Extinguisher+Ball

[Bicknellski]

I like these for automatic fire extinguishing.

http://www.amazon.com/Invention-Multi-Purpos-Extinguisher-Self-activation/dp/B00I94WFKC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1425270096&sr=8-1&keywords=Fire+Extinguisher+Ball

Or from China much cheaper.

http://www.aliexpress.com/premium/ball-fire-extinguisher.html?ltype=wholesale&SearchText=ball+fire+extinguisher&d=y&origin=y&initiative_id=QRW_20150301205251&isViewCP=y

[AbuGarcia]

whats inside?

[klondike_bar]

Yeah I am phasing out miners with a draw north of 1000w, in my experience that is the threshold which leads to fire. I have had the lower wattage miners burn up, but never with a resulting flame. Shrink the mine down to 20TH and hold, expansion with current return and specs on gen 3 just does not make sense. 

not sure how thats really the problem - power density is a greater issue than overall power. SP3x draws >2800W but is extremely reliable. KNC draws 300W/box and caused dozens of fires (generally all related to wiring though)

was the SP10 running at full specs still (1200W/1400GH) or was it undervolted (770W/1000GH)

[PuertoLibre]

Yeah I am phasing out miners with a draw north of 1000w, in my experience that is the threshold which leads to fire. I have had the lower wattage miners burn up, but never with a resulting flame. Shrink the mine down to 20TH and hold, expansion with current return and specs on gen 3 just does not make sense. 

not sure how thats really the problem - power density is a greater issue than overall power. SP3x draws >2800W but is extremely reliable. KNC draws 300W/box and caused dozens of fires (generally all related to wiring though)

was the SP10 running at full specs still (1200W/1400GH) or was it undervolted (770W/1000GH)

Please, don't be smart (or informative) in front of him. He really hates that.

[Cheeseater]

I've had two SP10s in my custody for hosting since about July, and this has happened to me three times (twice on one machine). One of them blew a VRM in January when the intake temps were about 14C. That grey bead to the uppper right corner is the only connection between your VRM/bank and the 12V rail, which means if you're worried just remove it and thew hole burnt section is now electrically cut off. Both my SP10s still work at reduced capacity.

They were my units hosted. Luckily Sidehack, the hardware guru that he is, had them both running at only a slightly reduced speed the same day. If you're looking for hosting I truly believe you won't find better.

[sidehack]

Cheeseater, SP tells me you should contact them about those two units. They might want to buy them back so they can analyze them and find the problem, same as they said to the OP.

[Cheeseater]

Cheeseater, SP tells me you should contact them about those two units. They might want to buy them back so they can analyze them and find the problem, same as they said to the OP.

Like I said, you won't find better hosting anywhere. Pm'd Spondoolies Thanks!